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MTH goes HO

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:27 AM
Does anyone else think that we should embrace the larger selection?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 10:30 PM
You guys are too funny! A dozen, or even a hundred, posters will or won't buy it. Makes no difference. I can't wait for TMCC in HO myself. Me and a hundred others. [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 10:29 PM
Well who knows, maybe Athern, Lionel, Proto, and BLI will all get together and sue MTH for infringing on the HO world, you just never know. You know the old saying "What goes around, comes around".
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Posted by CNJ831 on Monday, September 20, 2004 10:20 PM
To put things in some perspective, guys, with this talk of boycotting and threats of bad-mouthing MTH at every turn, remember two important things:

1. Better than 75% of hobbyist operate on DC, not DCC, and couldn't care any less about MTH's lawsuits with the other manufacturers over it or the final outcome.

2. If the threads here get ugly enough Kalmbach is likely to shut down this forum just as Atlas did their's over the Athearn/Horizon situation a couple of months back.

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Posted by simon1966 on Monday, September 20, 2004 10:09 PM
I'm not going to buy one!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 9:25 PM
Somebody needs to explain something to Mr Wolf.[:(!]
SInce he stunk up somebody else's sandbox,
he is not welcome to come stink up ours!
We HO scalers are generally a nice bunch[:D] but,
MTH has screwed with us enough already![:(!]
I suggest a total boycott of MTH, along with
a vocal and frequently given disappoval of all things MTH.

Mike, go ahead and do a "tunnel motor" diesel in HO,
I've already got a suggestion as to where you can run it! [;)]



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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 8:48 PM
Hey bennie, they why are you on the OGR forum defending MTH and Mikey?? Does it change when you come to the HO side. Seems a bit hypocrytical to me. Just run back to mamma and count some more rivets.[:0]

pax[C):-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 8:48 PM
MTH WEB site information

Unlike other HO sound-equipped locomotives currently on the market, M.T.H.'s steam locomotives will include synchronized puffing smoke timed to drive wheel revolutions for an incredibly realistic operating experience. First appearing in M.T.H.'s O Gauge locomotives in 2000, a similar smoke system will be utilized in the HO models. Because of the system's similarity (the primary difference is a smaller smoke fluid reservoir), output productivity in the HO models will be comparable to the O Gauge models. Each HO locomotive will feature a prototypically correct four chuffs/puffs per each drive wheel revolution.

Digital sound features including whistle, bell, chuffing, squeaking brakes, authentic Doppler, passenger station announcements, air let-off, air pump, blow down, pop-off, injector and dozens more are included in each engine - a variety unmatched in HO today. In addition, each engine features 120 speed steps, each in scale one-mile-per-hour increments for a true prototypical operating experience.

The die-cast metal boiler and tender house the electronics and a precision five-pole flywheel-equipped motor. Intricately detailed, the boiler and tender shells feature additional detail elements ensuring an accurate reproduction of the Pennsy's most famous steam locomotive. Additional features include sprung drivers, (2) KadeeĀ® couplers, prototypical Rule 21 lighting, interchangeable RP25 drivers with traction tires for added pulling strength, detailed cab interior, detailed tender undercarriage and even a tender to boiler deck plate.

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Posted by ben10ben on Monday, September 20, 2004 8:44 PM
Even if I were still in HO, Mike would not be seeing one penny of my train money, just as he doesn't see a single penny of it for his O gauge trains.

While Mike does no doubt put out an excellent product, and he is an excellent business man, I don't agree with him on many of his ideas.

This is a man who built his entire business on making copies of vintage Lionel trains(first postwar, and the pre-war) who then sues Lionel's butt off, claiming that they copied some of his models. Seems a bit hypocrytical to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 8:39 PM
Hey guys, if MTH wants to go HO, the more the merrier! These trains are toys, nothing more. Let the fun begin!
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Posted by cacole on Monday, September 20, 2004 7:39 PM
After the damage MTH has caused to the DCC world with his threats of lawsuits, I will never, ever purchase an MTH product, no matter how good or what scale it might be.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Monday, September 20, 2004 6:19 PM

Let the boycott begin!!!



Funny that Alex should mention MTH copying Lionel. MTH won a 40 million dollar judgement because Lionel produced a 3 rail O model from plans stolen from MTH.

Aggro, stand your ground and don't cave in MTH, no matter what they make.

Joe is right! I won't buy DCS for my 3 rail O, because I don't like the way MTH does business.
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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, September 20, 2004 5:48 PM
I protest MTH's HO line by principle, but if they come out with a DMIR Yellowstone, you better believe I'm getting one!

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Posted by jfugate on Monday, September 20, 2004 5:36 PM
I find it interesting that MTH claims to have gone DCC one better with their DCS system.

Especially interesting in the light of their DCC vendors lawsuit. It's as if they want to strongarm their way into messing up DCC so bad with litigation that the only system free of legal entaglements (and hence no long delays to release from legal concerns) is their DCS system.

Maybe not a tactic they are using, but it seems ironic that they don't want to play in DCC land, but want to trump it, then they get lawsuit happy against DCC on top of it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 4:55 PM
Pretty soon they'll sue everyone in HO for [insert stupid reason here].
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 4:42 PM
Lest we forget, MTH is the one screwing up DCC and claiming prior art for things they may or may not have invented. It will be a cold day in H--- before I buy anything from MTH!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 4:05 PM
Are they trying to copy lionel ? I don't care because I really don't like the Pennsy.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 20, 2004 3:57 PM
Isn't it interesting that MTH's model is a K-4...I wonder who picked it first, BLI or MTH!? One thing that turns me off is that it doesn't seem like the smoke generator is an option...oh well, I for sure won't be making any MTH purchases.
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MTH goes HO
Posted by jacon12 on Monday, September 20, 2004 3:09 PM
Some may have already seen this..
http://www.mthhotrains.com/models.asp
Jarrell
 HO Scale DCC Modeler of 1950, give or take 30 years.

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