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Posted by B&O1952 on Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:15 AM

Good morning all!

   Had a couple of busy days this week, but I found time to drop in this morning.

For everyone who commented on the fog scenes, thanks. We use two small foggers from MBT called Lil Critters. They are small enough to position just about anywhere. Ray, I just turn it on high and let it run until the scene is right.  Here's one more for ya!

Garry, I knew you would find a frame for it. I use 16"x20" canvas panels for that reason. I'm glad you like the video. My next video will include more scenes of switching moves plus the best of what I used on this video.

Welcome to Mobilman44 and Dennis!

Well, time to get painting.

 Have a great day!

-Stan

 

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Posted by JeremyB on Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:26 AM

Very nice pic Stan.

Morning guys

Its a cool clear fall morning here today. The wife and I went out for breakfast this morning then headed to the country hoping to get some railfan pics but didn't see anything, did manage to get some nice fall foliage pictures though.

I am going to spend the next few days working as much as I can on the layout before starting the new job on Monday. I hope to get alot done ( and cleaned ) before then. Well Im going to browse around here a bit and get started on it.

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Posted by chochowillie on Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:29 AM

Well now, another "Dennis" in the group! That's cool. Not that common a name now days.

Old guy Dennis aka Cho Choo Willi

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Posted by sakel on Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:49 AM

Jeff. I vote for 1 Stone gray ***

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Posted by chochowillie on Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:18 AM

Boy, do I know about those scooter batteries! My Mom had one and it seemed I was always having to mess with them. She passed away last December and what with me selling her and all, I didn't have a heated space to store the darned thing. I had intended to take the batteries in for the winter because they don't like -30 C weather. Anyway with one thing and another, I forgot. Come spring, it cost me $523.00 CDN to replace them.

The plan was to sell the scooter this summer but that didn't work as planned so now I need to take the batteries out and bring them in before I forget again. Don't need to blow another $500 of my RR budget again!!

Well the frost melted frost looks like it's melted off so best I get out there an do some fall cleanup. And yes, take the dammed batteries out while I'm thinking about it.

Cheers to all

Dennis

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:59 AM

sakel
Jeff. I vote for 1 Stone gray ***

And you were heard.

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Well I finished roughing up the silos and vacuumed the PVC dust off of them. I took them out outside and stood them open end down on the handle of my old gas grill so the remannts of tghe glue can drain out of them. I also sprayed them down with Krylon Matte Finish. That'll make them a bit easier to paint. I'll be using a 1/4" Testor's paint brush for that. The paint (so far looking to be the stone gray) is Valspar satin household latex.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:10 PM

Oh boy, my teeth are killing me! Never before did I have such a toothache! If that continues, I will have an interesting night ahead of me...

Only a few more days and we shall be moving the Diner to the October 2012 location - any thoughts or ideas where that could be?

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:30 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

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Some other colors I'm toying with. Anything but white! What do you think?



Whistling

Hi JEFF,

I agree with you, you don't want white.  But the lighter the grey the better.

From the picture it looks like the "silver bells" is almost a metallic. Is that so ?

If it is that rules it out immediately.  Might just be the lighting.

When you first spoke of putting the plaster in one end,  I thought that would be the bottom to give them more stability and make them less top heavy.   Guess I was wrong with that assumption.

Johnboy out and to find a seat in the Diner for lunch..................................

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:41 PM

last mountain & eastern hogger

Hi JEFF,

I agree with you, you don't want white.  But the lighter the grey the better.

From the picture it looks like the "silver bells" is almost a metallic. Is that so ?

If it is that rules it out immediately.  Might just be the lighting.

When you first spoke of putting the plaster in one end,  I thought that would be the bottom to give them more stability and make them less top heavy.   Guess I was wrong with that assumption.

Seems quite a few like the stone gray. Six votes for it so far. The plaster plugs are the tops of the silos. The bottoms will be mounted on 2" plugs even if I have to make them myself. I wanted the plaster plugs in the tops so it will be easier to mount details later. Plaster can be drilled into easily and it's easy to fix any damage. Yes, the Silver Bells is somewhat metallic. I was using it for testing only to see if the latex paint would keep grip on the PVC.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:13 PM

Jeff - I also vote for a light gray. With a little weathering that´s going to look great!

Just went to a pharmacy to pick up the strongest pain killer that one can get without a prescription. I hope that will bring me through the night. I have to watch out with those meds. I have to avoid Aspirin, as it interferes with my heart medications. Oh boy, it hurts a lot.

CU tomorrow!

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:30 PM

Afternoon folks!

Flo, a tall glass of lemonade would suit me fine at the moment...

Jeffrey, I took the liberty of pulling your silo photos down to my desktop and correcting for color and tone in Photoshop (I was seeing a lot of yellow from your lights).  With that in mind, of the colors you have, I change my vote to the Stone Gray.  It would be the best base for a concrete color.  You might want to experiment with some lighter grays and even white from rattle cans...  Hold the can about a foot away and give it a quick dusting with the lighter colors.  Let the spray just drift onto the silos.  Once you have what you want dull coat it to seal the colors.   See if you like the results...

Had to run downtown for some pictures of dead presidents for the weekend, buy a thin High E string to use for a modeling project at the Music Store downtown, and pick up a couple prescriptions.  The drug store now has to have a printout of all my blood draws for the last month or Medicare won't let them fill the prescription for the test strips...  I dunno...

Still have to run over to another store that I forgot I needed to go to earlier!  They say the second thing to go is the memory you know.  Can't remember what is first at the moment.  What were we talking about?

Later!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:31 PM

howmus
Jeffrey, I took the liberty of pulling your silo photos down to my desktop and correcting for color and tone in Photoshop (I was seeing a lot of yellow from your lights).  With that in mind, of the colors you have, I change my vote to the Stone Gray.  It would be the best base for a concrete color.  You might want to experiment with some lighter grays and even white from rattle cans...  Hold the can about a foot away and give it a quick dusting with the lighter colors.  Let the spray just drift onto the silos.  Once you have what you want dull coat it to seal the colors.   See if you like the results...

Yellow from CFL's? Well I guess anything's possible. The rattle can treatment will have to wait as I don't have anything in lighter colors. I may be able to pick some up next week.

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Well the poll is closed and the vote is in. Fourteen votes (not including mine, David's and my fathers) and seven of them are for the stone gray. So stone gray it will be. I'll start on the painting this evening. The color has no 'real' name other than mis-tint. I picked it up for a buck at Lowe's two years ago. Valspar satin latex house paint. Cheap stuff but when your budget is a shoestring frayed to a thread you learn not to be picky.

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Posted by tcwright973 on Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:50 PM

Ray - I get my diabetic testing supplies through the mail, and I have had to submit a monthly record about every six months. I think I have had to do this since the beginning of 2010. There's no doubt in my mind that this is nothing but bureaucracy at work. I would be willing to wager a bunch that human eyes never even see them. And what would it tell them?

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Posted by JeremyB on Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:54 PM

Thought I would stop in before going to start dinner in a hour or so.

I have been busy working in the layout room this afternoon. So far I have done

- Vacuum layout room floors

- Clean dust off loco and car drawers

- fixes spots where ballast has come louse

- clean structures

And start to scenic a spot on the layout that was looking a little bare. As I don't have to get up early tomorrow I may work on it to the late hours tonight. I will give the track a good cleaning in the following days also.

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:07 PM

Bang Head  Bang Head  Bang Head

SoapBox WHY oh WHY do manufacturers make parts to purposely fail-out of warrantee-but close to brand new just to resell you new parts that are "the better parts" at high markups?

IT will COST us $1,030.00 to fix the furnace...the new repair man told me up front he'd not be surprised to find thing wrong with it {It wouldn't kick on} as the furnace company is noted for failures in a year or 2 just out of warrantee {1 Year- which is a rip off as a heating system only gets used 1/2 a year!}. It was JUST put in LAST year!!!  Bang Head

The: Igniter burned out, the induced draft motor was burned out, and the pressure switch on the induced draft motor was stuck wide open.  Bang Head

The switch: $225.00, The igniter: $300, The Induced draft motor: $350, $75 in tax, and $80 in "service call".

Bang Head  Bang Head   Bang Head

That is ONE THIRD of what we paid for the furnace to begin with last year!!!   Bang Head

There will be NO TRAIN BUDGET for me NEXT year as well!!!!!!  {ULRICH I feel your pain!!!}}}

Bang Head I have a Head ache.

Jeffrey: I like the light stone gray too!

Bang Head

Oh my achin' head...where is the icon with the ice bag on the head???

Sad

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:10 PM

galaxy
WHY oh WHY do manufacturers make parts to purposely fail-out of warrantee-but close to brand new just to resell you new parts that are "the better parts" at high markups?

So they can make money to stay in business and pay for the bosses three martini lunches.

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Well that's one part of the operation done. The silos have been painted and have been sprayed with Matte Finish. I'm waiting for them to dry then I'll turn them and spray the other side.



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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:32 PM

 Evening Dinners

 Flo Beer pleases.

 Daughters brakes are done. Rotor's where wrapped but she still had 25 % of her pads left. Tells you about how she drives! Whistling Far as her oil, only 10,000 miles over due! Bang Head While I was at the bank she works at one of her female coworkers tried to defender her by saying (Woman need a man or a father to remind them of theses things) I pointed out to her Gender has nothing to do with Intelligences! Plus she grew up in a Car Family. She use to hand me tools when I was working on my cars. Heck, she took her driving test in my 70 Big Block Cuda! Whistling

 Should have seen the look on the faces of the guy that was going to go with her! Laugh He looked Ick!

  

 That her sitting next to the Cuda, my Charger is on the right.

 Ah, Dennis I must be taking this the wrong way.

 

chochowillie
She passed away last December and what with me selling her and all,

 Must be the Beer in me.

 Later. Ken

 

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:45 PM

Evenin' Folks!

Just a decaf, Janie.  So why is Galaxy crying in the back booth.  Furnace Repairs?!?  I thought he had a brand new furnace just last year?  Don't that beat all!  Something doesn't sound right with all of that!

Tom, according to one of the pharmacists at the Big Chain Pharmacy, they got audited a few months back, and certain chains are being made to account for where all the supplies paid for by medicare have gone....  Therefore the patient has to show he/she did the blood tests...  The place I am transferring my accounts to has told me he hasn't heard a thing about it and none of his customers have to do that.  Interesting, Huh?

Jeffrey, yes the color of the standard fluorescent is usually around 2700°K and most have terrible color rendering.  Just look at the difference in the color of your photo from outside in comparison to the one taken inside.  Yes I know you have also used a Matte Finish on them.  2700°K is the color of the light at sunup and at sunset and generally has a lot of Yellow in it.  The color of midday is usually more blueish.  I use 5000° to 5500° Daylight CFLs that also have a very high CRI.  The ones I am get these days have a CRI of 91+ which is exceptional.  Colors run very true with them.  Here is a comparison of 2 photos on my layout.  The first was taken with dollar store CFL bulbs at 2700°K using the auto white setting on my Digital Rebel:

Here is basically the same area after changing to the 5000°K daylight with a high CRI index:

Hopefully you can see the difference!  The outside shot of your silos now looks much more like concrete than the inside shot.  If you can later add some of the other gray colors I suggested earlier, you will have it spot on! Thumbs UpThumbs Up

Later!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:02 PM

howmus
Jeffrey, yes the color of the standard fluorescent is usually around 2700°K and most have terrible color rendering.  Just look at the difference in the color of your photo from outside in comparison to the one taken inside.  Yes I know you have also used a Matte Finish on them.  2700°K is the color of the light at sunup and at sunset and generally has a lot of Yellow in it.  The color of midday is usually more blueish.  I use 5000° to 5500° Daylight CFLs that also have a very high CRI.  The ones I am get these days have a CRI of 91+ which is exceptional.  Colors run very true with them.

The lights I'm using are Lowe's Bright Effects 123tm/65k CFL's, four to be exact. They're quite bright.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:26 PM

Silos are done for now. The next step will be to start designing the accompanying structures. These will be made of card stock for the most part.



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Posted by Packer on Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:14 PM

Evening guys

Been away busy sleeping. Went to bed around 10pm on tuesday, woke up at 11am, at, then took a nap from about noon to 3pm. This isn't the first time where I've had no energy, but drinking some gatorade always seems to help.

Had a minor mishap at work today. I was using one of those box-cutters with the breakable blades, and it broke when I was using it. Guess where the broke piece went? Into the knuckle of my left index finger. It doesn't hurt much, I must have gotten lucky with the angle. It didn't go straight in, but rather it skimmed the knuckle. So it's more of a scrape than a cut.

My father wants to experiment with my car again. He wants to try a breadbox intake with an 80mm thottle body (IIRC, I have a 70 on an explorer intake). He says I might get an 8.1 with the change. I'm skeptical it'll knock off half a second in the 1/8th. I know I have an 8.5 capable car now (had an 8.60 slow shifting)

Haven't done a whole lot with the trains lately. Ran around at the MR club on tuesday, and have been painting wheelsets. Out of the 100 36" wheelsets I bought, I only used about half of them. Still need more 33" wheelsets.

Ken, your daughter sounds like my brother. He always washes and vacuums his car, but rarely checks fluids, levels, etc. I'm the opposite, clean every other week, but check levels weekly.

Ulrich, $3,800 a loco? Is scale 1 1"=1'? If so, where will you find the space?

Jeff, I love how you post your pics of your elevator, right when I'm considering selling my Walther's ADM one. Reason being is it takes up storage space.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:24 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

howmus
Jeffrey, yes the color of the standard fluorescent is usually around 2700°K and most have terrible color rendering.  Just look at the difference in the color of your photo from outside in comparison to the one taken inside.  Yes I know you have also used a Matte Finish on them.  2700°K is the color of the light at sunup and at sunset and generally has a lot of Yellow in it.  The color of midday is usually more blueish.  I use 5000° to 5500° Daylight CFLs that also have a very high CRI.  The ones I am get these days have a CRI of 91+ which is exceptional.  Colors run very true with them.

The lights I'm using are Lowe's Bright Effects 123tm/65k CFL's, four to be exact. They're quite bright.

Hi Jeffrey, I did a search on the Bright Effects Light bulbs and found a lot of complaints about them.  They are evidently a store brand sold at Lowes and Wal Mart and some other places.  Lowes doesn't sell them anymore.  Most of the complaints were about them burning for a few hours and dieing.  Some spoke about a brown goo leaking out of them as well and that it was almost impossible to get the stores to honor the Guarantee on them.  If yours are working well, I guess you got lucky... Brightness has nothing to do with it...

My guess is that because they are a cheap brand, the CRI (Color Rendering Index) is probably below 80 and possibly down in the 60 range of a shoplight no matter what the Kelvin temperature of the bulb.  On the photos I showed earlier of my layout the CRI is the biggest factor in the difference in color quality. 

I'm not saying you should run out and buy better lights...  They work well for you, don't worry about it!  Poor CRI generally means there is a lot of holes in the color spectrum of the bulb.  Our eyes generally adjust and we don't really notice the difference until compared with better lighting.  The CFLs and Tubes I am buying these days are from Blue Max.  Some of their lights are up in the 96 range for color rendering!!!  True Full Spectrum or as close as you can get to a Black Body Resonator in a CFL. They are the best I have found, and a bit more pricey than most others on the market.....  But the color rendering is impressive!

Photoshop is able to fill some of the missing color back into the photo which helps the total rendering of the photo.  That is probably what I saw in the difference after I ran it through Photoshop.  OK, I'll stop boring everyone!

Janie can I get a cup of decaf please?  I'm sitting here watching the printer run.  Printing maps, programs, and a list of local restaurants for the Meet this Saturday.

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:46 PM

howmus

Hi Jeffrey, I did a search on the Bright Effects Light bulbs and found a lot of complaints about them.  They are evidently a store brand sold at Lowes and Wal Mart and some other places.  Lowes doesn't sell them anymore.  Most of the complaints were about them burning for a few hours and dieing.  Some spoke about a brown goo leaking out of them as well and that it was almost impossible to get the stores to honor the Guarantee on them.  If yours are working well, I guess you got lucky... Brightness has nothing to do with it...

My guess is that because they are a cheap brand, the CRI (Color Rendering Index) is probably below 80 and possibly down in the 60 range of a shoplight no matter what the Kelvin temperature of the bulb.  On the photos I showed earlier of my layout the CRI is the biggest factor in the difference in color quality. 

Thanks for the heads up on light bulbs. I'll be looking for replacements when these start going bad. I've never had any problems with them at all and never had any burn out. Just after a few years they start getting dim and need to be replaced. My nephew uses my old CFL's as his outside porch lights.

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Jeff, I love how you post your pics of your elevator, right when I'm considering selling my Walther's ADM one. Reason being is it takes up storage space.

Well I was looking at getting the Walthers ADM elevator but that fell through, so I decided to make one from scratch. Been a long time since I've done ant scratch building and I'm a bit out of practice.

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:55 PM

Evening Chloe, how about a nice glass of a fine Finger Lakes wine, please. Think I'll go join Ken tonight. Bang Head Bang Head Been one of THOSE days... busy, hectic, and one of my least favorites about 10 minutes before leaving time. Sigh

OzJim, I tried to read that article about your CAPE, but my eyes started to glaze over. Way over my head! (Yeah, I was thinking of one of those other Capes you mentioned).

Todd, maybe those little wood chips could be used for HO scale scrap wood around the local lumber yard or sawmill? (Hey, just a thought - didn't say it was a good one...).Smile, Wink & Grin Should I guess that your son might've had some expensive repair bills before he got all that wisdom? Wink

Dennis and Mobilman44 - Todd mentioned the server staff here, which is:

Zoe and Chloe (the twins - Bill T. previously had posted some sketches of them, I think...Wink)

Zoe usually covers weekdays in here and sister Chloe covers the weeknights, then there's

Flo, Janie, and a couple others who help out on weekends and holidays so the twins can be off a little more. And cousin Vinnie (who was mentioned earlier by myself), who 'handles' things, like if somebody fails to tip the servers properly or gets a bit too feisty in here. If somebody has too big of a tab for getting TOP (Top of Page), Vinnie will (ahem...) "have a little chat" with the person who's taking too long on getting the (virtual) tab paid down. It also is possible to wash dishes to help cover your tab. Vinnie smiles if you bring in some thing nice for the twins or other servers (but no touching, and definitely no pinching, unless you want to see Vinnie really mad (and Chloe packs a mean walllop - don't ask how some know...). Whistling

Also, no swinging from the chandeliers if we have a special occasion (aka party) in the Diner. (You might be drafted by Vinnie and/or the twins, to help with the cleanup...)

I think that may cover most of the more critical (life-saving) particulars in here.. Other Diners who know of additional area to enlighten you.

Jeff, I'm partial to the light grey, dark grey and tannish colors (since they could highlight some weathering easily). You're coming along nicely with that elevator. Thumbs Up

Chris, I'll share the roast beef with others (especially Rerun, who has sharper teeth than most of us...). Like your elevator - will you have some stairways/ladders from those way-high-up-there door-looking things? Ya got me curious. And you're likely right - I'm sure that somewhere, there is a green elevator!

Lee, I hope you will be feeling better soon. Will add your health to my Angel list.

Barry, continue to have your 'code' on that same list. Maybe you need some of Todd's mother's "special medicine"? Whistling

Oh my gosh - you too, Ulrich? We're gonna hafta reserve a couple of back booths for the recuperating ones.Take care of yourself with that tooth problem, too. AngelAngel

Best get your rest (as best you can), fellas, and try not to overdo until you're all healed up to your usual self (whatever that may be) Whistling Chloe, maybe you'd better see about ordering in a carton of tissues for the back booths...Oh, you already did? Good.

Dan - see, Barry's already welcomed a fellow N-scaler (DerJohn - once he gets back in here - is another N-scaler (and bit of a master at scratchbuilding N-scale stuff, like the snow blower he made many months back); I think we have at least 1/3 or more of our semi-regular Diners (and what IS a 'regular' Diner, is up to debate...) who model in N scale. Have some O scalers too, and one or two live steam modelers, including Paul B. who lives down in Texas (retired from w**king at Six Flags there, and has a farm). By the way, (in jest) some of our 'iNvisible' scale-modeling Diners refer to HO as 'Horribly Oversized', and S as 'Super-sized'... Smile, Wink & Grin And Dan? That's (even as is) quite a list of things to fix for 4070. Wow

Course, I don't know about $3800 a pop for a verrrry nice #1 Scale loco, even with all the (lteral) bells and whistles like the one Ulrich showed us! Surprise My budget's a bit tinier than that, I think...

Ray, your new building there on the corner almost looks too clean (nice job on the brickw**k, though). Thumbs Up Best wishes on your preparations for the NMRA meet!

Galaxy was kinda quiet earlier (until the furnace repair guy handed him the bill (OUCH!) That is a whopper of a bill, G. Hope you can find ways to not do THAT again!

B&O Stan, another excellent 'fog' photo there.Yeah

Dennis(ChooChooWilli), that's an expensive way to learn a lesson about leaving the battery out, all right. [ouch!]

Yep, Johnboy, with all the folks (new and returning) in the Diner lately, pretty soon the twins will need to start adding another car (or two) to the Diner!

Jeff - former professional photographer here. Fluorescents (except for more expensive ones such as I see Ray mentioned) do not have a continuous spectrum of colors given off - that is why photos taken under only fluorescent lights tend to have rotten-looking color (or colour, for our NOTB and Oz/NZ Diners) rendition. Even the so-called 'fluorescent filters' for cameras are only a partial help. (As you can tell, I am not much of a fan of them, nor CFB's - they require almost a Hazmat bag to clean up if/when they break...do NOT accidentally step on CFB glass fragments!)

Ah, I see I missed the cutoff for the poll; luckily, it turned out the stone grey one, which was one I liked anyway. Smile

Dennis, I (at first) misunderstood you kinda like Ken mentioned, but I figured you just left out a word, and it was supposed to be "her stuff and all", right? Hey, we have ALL made that kind of goof-up/typo...(Unless the going rate is up way beyond what I would've guessed...) Whistling Smile, Wink & Grin (Hey, we're just funnin' ya)

Tomorrow is FRIDAY!! (Yay!) Because I'll be on-call Saturday, I will have to do laundry after w**k tomorrow night (and see if i win an item on deBay), but good thing is, I'm off Sunday. Big Smile Unless I get called out, should be able to get back to the (RDA) gas station kit Saturday, and continue removing things from on top of the layout.

About time for me to head on home. Prayers for all our ailing Diners, as well as those in need fo comfort, other healing and/or needs. Hope to be by tomorrow, but we'll see how hectic w**k is.

Blessings,

Jim in Cape G.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:09 PM

JimRCGMO
Jeff, I'm partial to the light grey, dark grey and tannish colors (since they could highlight some weathering easily). You're coming along nicely with that elevator. Thumbs Up

Well really I have a big problem with grays. I can see light gray and dark gray. The other shades of gray show up as white and silver and black. That's why I don't use gray all that much. In this case the majority liked it so that's what I used.

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Time for me to call it a night. You know what I've been up to so I won't bore you with details. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by wetidlerjr on Friday, September 28, 2012 2:35 AM

Good Morning! from Tipton IN.

Friday, September 28, 2012

Former NKP Depot, Lafayette IN

Mischief

Bill Tidler Jr.

Near a cornfield in Indiana...

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, September 28, 2012 6:54 AM

*grumble* *grumble* *groan* *groan* *creak* *Crud* *Arrggghh*

I slept late this morning, but my one eye that is open tells me its time for:

GOOD MORNING!!!

I was being a smart aleck above. Since I mentioned "eye", I figure the apple of my eye and smart aleck are my tidbits today, SO:

smart alec/smart aleck/smart alick - someone who is very or 'too' clever (esp. in a cocky manner) According to etymologist David Wilton the most likely origin was suggested by Gerald Cohen in a 1985 article which appeared in the publication Studies In Slang. Cohen suggests the origin dates back to 1840s New York City fraudster Aleck Hoag, who, with his wife posing as a prostitute, would rob the customers. Hoag bribed the police to escape prosecution, but ultimately paid the price for being too clever when he tried to cut the police out of the deal, leading to the pair's arrest. In describing Hoag at the time, the police were supposedly the first to use the 'smart aleck' expression.

apple of his eye/apple of your eye/apple of my eye - a person much adored or doted on, loved, held dearly, and central to the admirer's affections and sensitivities - the 'apple of his eye' expression first appeared in the Bible, Deuteronomy, chapter 32, verse 10, in which Moses speaks of God's caring for Jacob: "He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye". Brewer's 1870 dictionary of Phrase and Fable describes the 'apple of the eye' expression (or apple of your eye, apple of his/her eye, apple of my eye) as being a metaphor based on the pupil's significance within the eye. The theory goes that in ancient times the pupil of the eye (the black centre) was thought to be a small hard ball, for which an apple was a natural symbol. Logically the pupil or apple of a person's eye described someone whom was held in utmost regard - rather like saying the 'centre of attention'. Strangely Brewer references Deuteronomy chapter 32 verse 3, which seems to be an error since the verse is definitely 10.

Now that everything is in Apple Pie Order:

APPLE PIE ORDER: Tidy and well-ordered.

The phrase may originate from the French 'nappes pliees' = neatly folded, or from 'cap-a-pie order'. There's no definitive evidence to support this and the origin remains uncertain. It is recorded first in English in Sir Thomas Pasley's Private Sea Journals, 1780: "Their Persons Clean and in apple-Pie order on Sundays.

Also:

Prim and precise order.

The origin of this phrase is still doubtful. Some suggest cap-à-pie, like a knight in complete armour. Some tell us that apples made into a pie are quartered and methodically arranged when the cores have been taken out. Perhaps the suggestion made above of nap-pe-pli (French, nappes pliées, folded linen, neat as folded linen, Latin, plico, to fold) is nearer the mark.

It has also been suggested that “Apple-pie order” may be a corruption of alpha, beta, meaning as orderly as the letters of the alphabet.

“Everything being in apple-pie order, ... Dr. Johnson ... proposed that we should accompany him ... to M'Tassa's kraal.” —Adventures in Mashonaland, p. 294 (1803).

Well, The prayer candle is lit for those in need!

Later gators:

Geeked



 

-G .

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After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, September 28, 2012 7:09 AM

Good morning. It's 67°F with 99% humidity. Yeah, dry but wet at the same time. It'll be mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. The high will be 88°F and feel like 98°.


Today I'll try and get started on designing the structural elements for the grain elevator project. First I'll need to scan in the image of my scale rule. That way I'll be able to draw out the pieces right next to the rule. The structure walls will be printed on card stock. For the mass of the main structure I can use a box and glue the card stock elements to it. That'll save me the trouble of building a framework to mount the elements on. So far it sounds easy but I'm sure Murphy is waiting to pounce at the most inopportune time. Anybody got a sure-fire Murphy trap I can use?

As for the rest of the day we'll see what happens.



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Posted by LSWrr on Friday, September 28, 2012 7:15 AM

Good Morning all,

 

Fall has fell on my street.  The leaves are starting to turn.

 

I don’t know anything about the color rendering index but I do know those LED bulbs I bought for the bathroom and my desk light are the closest thing to outdoor natural light I’ve ever seen.  They are a little expensive until you factor in the low energy usage and the 20 to 50 year life span.  Don’t even price them at LOWES or HomeDepot since both are selling them for around $40 each.  The local computer store sells them for $7 to $20 each.

 

Ok, I’m going to try and read the past week’s worth of posts and see what happened…

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Posted by gear-jammer on Friday, September 28, 2012 7:18 AM

Good morning, Diners.  Coffee, please, Chloe.

Jeffrey,  I am glad you went with a light color.  Can't wait to see your finished elevator.  Oh yeah,  I like your lights on in the house when you sign off for the night.  Great touch.

I am meeting some friends for coffee at 8:00, and I plan to swim first so I will check in later.

Sue

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