What industries to you model?

[krump]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by krump

Primary list:

pickle plant, corrections facility etc, limber mill, log home builders, heavy machinery / construction, farmland / greenhouse, vineyard and winery, grain elevator, fishing resort, bookstore, and engine house

optional list:
mining, art gallery, boat sales (party barge pontoons), office supplies, banking centre, forestry, fruit or fish plant, concrete plant ...

cheers

Corrections Facility: Hoboes in, empty boxcars out?

I like that idea !!!

[darth9x9]

I plan on taking Bruce Carpenter's approach where in fact the BNSF may not have had a particular industry, he modeled it anyway because he wanted to stiched-out that type traffic.

I plan on having not only run-through trains but many industries so handle most any car in my time period.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by krump

Primary list:

pickle plant, corrections facility etc, limber mill, log home builders, heavy machinery / construction, farmland / greenhouse, vineyard and winery, grain elevator, fishing resort, bookstore, and engine house

optional list:
mining, art gallery, boat sales (party barge pontoons), office supplies, banking centre, forestry, fruit or fish plant, concrete plant ...

cheers

Corrections Facility: Hoboes in, empty boxcars out?

[krump]

Primary list:

pickle plant, corrections facility etc, limber mill, log home builders, heavy machinery / construction, farmland / greenhouse, vineyard and winery, grain elevator, fishing resort, bookstore, and engine house

optional list:
mining, art gallery, boat sales (party barge pontoons), office supplies, banking centre, forestry, fruit or fish plant, concrete plant ...

cheers

[Anonymous]

loging agiculture state park with stable 2 ride the trails grain elevator penetentry general store coal mine black smithing

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pinecanyonrr

I wrote manuals and advertising for FMC FoodTech for about 8 years. It is a very lousy place to work. The business and work conditions are great, but the management is the worst I have ever encountered. A great industry for modeling that I worked at was Western Gear. They made transmissions for navy ships, gearboxes for oil wells and such. You can have a flatcar with a real big gear going to the plant for refurbish.
FMC FoodTech...Ba, Keith

I noticed that it looks like FMC has a spur going into the plant from the south side (coming off the the spur going into TPI). Did FMC receive material via rail or ship completed machines out via rail?

[Anonymous]

I wrote manuals and advertising for FMC FoodTech for about 8 years. It is a very lousy place to work. The business and work conditions are great, but the management is the worst I have ever encountered. A great industry for modeling that I worked at was Western Gear. They made transmissions for navy ships, gearboxes for oil wells and such. You can have a flatcar with a real big gear going to the plant for refurbish.
FMC FoodTech...Ba, Keith

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pinecanyonrr

Hi ERICSP,
Tomato processing? Hmmmm. Do you work for FMC in Madera? You seem to have knowledge of tomato processing and products. If so, Please visit http://www.pinecanyonscalemodels.com I worked for FMC and semi retired about 2-1/2 years ago. You can use those FMC cars for many industries. Please contact me off-list,
Happy Railroading,
Keith

Actually, I have applied there. I right not I am trying to decide if I want to continue being an engineer or go towards railroading. If I continue with engineering (I am leaning in that direction) FMC FoodTech is a place where I would like to work. I am hoping that given the products that make there I can use thermodynamics and mechine design.

I plan on my tomato processing plant to look similar to TomaTek's out in Firebaugh.

[Anonymous]

Hi ERICSP,
Tomato processing? Hmmmm. Do you work for FMC in Madera? You seem to have knowledge of tomato processing and products. If so, Please visit http://www.pinecanyonscalemodels.com I worked for FMC and semi retired about 2-1/2 years ago. You can use those FMC cars for many industries. Please contact me off-list,
Happy Railroading,
Keith

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MAbruce

So unless this warehouse has a huge basement, one has to wonder where all the stuff is going??? [:0]

Hummm, maybe this something for agents Mulder & Scully to look into? [8D]

I used to deliver mail to a strange place on my route. In the middle of a large, open field was a small building with a big parking lot. I would press the intercom button and tell them I was there, they would hit the electric lock to let me in. There was a small lobby and an elevator down, opening into a small, empty room with heavy metal doors and then into a huge room filled with electronic equipment & offices. It was a station for ATT's Long lines, built underground, likely as part of Bell's program to insure communications following a nuclear attack.

It was a bit freaky at first, having the steel doors close behind me before the next would open.

Wayne

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by D_ Davis

[^]I am doing Petrochemical-oil feilds, with assorted tankers, Sinclair-Texico-line B & O Tankers. I am also
going tyo have a beer hall[^] and pool hall[C):-)]and possible a trailer trash park[(-D]with a cat house[:O][:)][:P][;)]

Trailer Parks?! Do you plan on building a tornado too?[:D][:D]

[n2mopac]

On line I model 3 grain elevators (one quite large)(covered hoppers), a lumber distribution center (flat cars, bulkheads, and centerbeam flats), a lumber and building supply yard(same plus box cars), two petroleum distributors (tankers), a pipe distributor (flats and gondolas), a Trinity Industries plant that builds covered hoppers (flats and boxcars in, hoppers out), a graphite mfg. plant (covered hoppers), a small town feed and seed (box cars, covered hoppers for fertilizer, LPG cars), and a tool and die (box cars and flats). I also have one team track and three interchanges with short lines that handle cars for off line industries. These are all based on prototypical industries on the subdivision that I model.
Ron

[Anonymous]

Planned for the North Shore Line Skokie Valley Route:
Western Electric - telephone cable
North Chicago Skokie Petroleum Co. & various other fuel dealers
Briergate Ready-Mix - cement
North Shore Foundry
Grand Ave. Lumber Supply
Benton Lumber Co.
Nash plant in Kenosha, WI

In looking at freight business on northshoreline.com, it seems most of the NSL's business was fuel oil dealerships (and coal), and lumber yards.

[Anonymous]

[^]I am doing Petrochemical-oil feilds, with assorted tankers, Sinclair-Texico-line B & O Tankers. I am also
going tyo have a beer hall[^] and pool hall[C):-)]and possible a trailer trash park[(-D]with a cat house[:O][:)][:P][;)]

[Anonymous]

Packing plant, Beef in, steaks out. Freight house and team track. Coal for RR loaded coal hoppers in, empties out. Tie plant, logs in, ties out, chemical tanks in. Off line and online mining empties in, loads out. Brewry, grain box cars in, beer reefers out.

[Jetrock]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MAbruce

You will notice that it’s quite active, but has no parking lot or roads leading to it. It also seems to generate far more freight activity than its size would suggest. For instance, the next picture is the yard that serves this warehouse:

So unless this warehouse has a huge basement, one has to wonder where all the stuff is going??? [:0]

Sounds to me like a good excuse to add passenger service! An RDC or small commuter train could drop off and pick up employees at beginning and end of day, dropping them off at passenger stations nearby.

My modeled industries:

A fruit packing/canning business
A team track/interchange track (the location included both an interchange track and team loading area.) with SP
An interchange with WP (although there is a bottling plant that shares the spur.)
A casket company (on a passing track rather than having its own siding, they have a loading dock for LCL shipments.)

A small metalworking shop and furniture store are serviced via the team track.

Not too much, but for eight square feet of layout it's not too bad.

Planned but not built: At least one large cannery, an almond-processing plant, a freight house/LCL warehouse, a dairy, another warehouse that serves a riverboat shipping company, and at least one more interchange. Of course, I have to expand beyond eight square feet first...

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MAbruce

What industry do I model? Now that’s a good question!

My layout is located in a rural area that time seems to have passed by. Most of the freight activity is pass-through these days, and there is no longer very much local switching activity.

But then there is a certain freight warehouse (pictured below) that is quite an enigma.

You will notice that it’s quite active, but has no parking lot or roads leading to it. It also seems to generate far more freight activity than its size would suggest. For instance, the next picture is the yard that serves this warehouse:

So unless this warehouse has a huge basement, one has to wonder where all the stuff is going??? [:0]

Hummm, maybe this something for agents Mulder & Scully to look into? [8D]

Must be spontaneous generation and spontaneous disintegration.

[MAbruce]

What industry do I model? Now that’s a good question!

My layout is located in a rural area that time seems to have passed by. Most of the freight activity is pass-through these days, and there is no longer very much local switching activity.

But then there is a certain freight warehouse (pictured below) that is quite an enigma.

You will notice that it’s quite active, but has no parking lot or roads leading to it. It also seems to generate far more freight activity than its size would suggest. For instance, the next picture is the yard that serves this warehouse:

So unless this warehouse has a huge basement, one has to wonder where all the stuff is going??? [:0]

Hummm, maybe this something for agents Mulder & Scully to look into? [8D]

[CP5415]

I plan on having an auto parts plant & a paper mill as my main industries with, I'm hoping, a food processing plant for my reefer fleet.
I'm not sure what else I'm going to be able to fit in until I see how much room I have.

Gordon

[michealfarley]

My small branch line layout includes:
3 Grain Elevators, one also deals Anhydrous
Flour Mill, loads in and out
Feed Mill, loads in and out
Grocery Warehouse
Cannery
Coal-Fired Power Plant
Lumber Distributor
Bulk Fuel Distributor
Team Track with side and end unloading ramps
Interchange with CNW and SOO Line

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

About the chlorine plant-I will have to add more sidings at the Dow Chemical than. Thankyou for the information about Plexiglass-I will rename the plant than Rohm and Haas. As far as the car numbers are concerned, the answer is yes. It will take some time but I have already accumulated alot of pictures and number series to have alot of correct prototypical rollingstock. The only thing that I wouldn't mind getting info about is I need more tankcars stenciled for Hydrofluoric acid and Methyl Methacrylate Monomer.

Appearently is it Atofina Chemicals that holds the Plexiglas (one s) tradmark, <http://www.atofinachemicals.com/atoglas/index.cfm>. I must have assumed Rohm and Haas had the trademark because, if I remember correctly, R&H is the largest producer of methyl methacrylate.

When I asked about the placard numbers, I was refering to the haz-mat placards. I am modeling a refinery and will have products being shipped out that Microscale does not make placards for. I have not decided if I will put placards on these cars from the appropiate class but with incorrect numbers or wait to see I can find blank placards with numbers seperate.

I imagine you can find that on line. I found something very close on the haz-mat website. If you do some reseach into the chemical itself, you can make some pretty good if not accurate guesses about the placards.

I will do some investigation into the hexane part. I am certain I have seen a couple of tankers stenciled for hexane.

Thanks for the offer, however I know all of the placard numbers. It is finding placards with the correct numbers in HO scale that produces some trouble. The only good set so far that I have found it Microscale's 840 and it only has a few numbers.

[Anonymous]

mostly rural like farms and mills.
but i do plan a metal fabrication building soon

[jwmurrayjr]

Mining
Ore processing
Lumber
Sawmill
Box Factory
groceries for local consumption
general merchandise for local consumption
coal and oil sales for local consumption
tourism

[:)]

[Anonymous]

I will have a steel mill, a power plant, a grain elevator, an oil loading platform, gravel crusher, a coal flood loader, a concrete plant, and an asphalt plant. Most of these are one building industries since I do not have the space to model the industries in ther full sizes. This is a nice grouping, I think, because I can run various trains from different industries. I hope to have coal loads coming from the coal flood loader to the steel mill and to the power plant. I will have gravel going from the crusher to the concrete plant and to the asphalt plant. I will also have oil going to the asphalt plant and a little to the steel mill. Then there are things that must go to or come from an industry without any destination or origin, respectively. These will be steel in various forms from the steel mill, grain to and from the grain elevator, and cement to the concrete plant.
Reed

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

About the chlorine plant-I will have to add more sidings at the Dow Chemical than. Thankyou for the information about Plexiglass-I will rename the plant than Rohm and Haas. As far as the car numbers are concerned, the answer is yes. It will take some time but I have already accumulated alot of pictures and number series to have alot of correct prototypical rollingstock. The only thing that I wouldn't mind getting info about is I need more tankcars stenciled for Hydrofluoric acid and Methyl Methacrylate Monomer.

Appearently is it Atofina Chemicals that holds the Plexiglas (one s) tradmark, <http://www.atofinachemicals.com/atoglas/index.cfm>. I must have assumed Rohm and Haas had the trademark because, if I remember correctly, R&H is the largest producer of methyl methacrylate.

When I asked about the placard numbers, I was refering to the haz-mat placards. I am modeling a refinery and will have products being shipped out that Microscale does not make placards for. I have not decided if I will put placards on these cars from the appropiate class but with incorrect numbers or wait to see I can find blank placards with numbers seperate.

I imagine you can find that on line. I found something very close on the haz-mat website. If you do some reseach into the chemical itself, you can make some pretty good if not accurate guesses about the placards.

I will do some investigation into the hexane part. I am certain I have seen a couple of tankers stenciled for hexane.

[Anonymous]

I use a grainelevator as backdrop.

My prototype is Cajon-Pass and there is the big ADM elevator at Keenbrook.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

About the chlorine plant-I will have to add more sidings at the Dow Chemical than. Thankyou for the information about Plexiglass-I will rename the plant than Rohm and Haas. As far as the car numbers are concerned, the answer is yes. It will take some time but I have already accumulated alot of pictures and number series to have alot of correct prototypical rollingstock. The only thing that I wouldn't mind getting info about is I need more tankcars stenciled for Hydrofluoric acid and Methyl Methacrylate Monomer.

Appearently is it Atofina Chemicals that holds the Plexiglas (one s) tradmark, <http://www.atofinachemicals.com/atoglas/index.cfm>. I must have assumed Rohm and Haas had the trademark because, if I remember correctly, R&H is the largest producer of methyl methacrylate.

When I asked about the placard numbers, I was refering to the haz-mat placards. I am modeling a refinery and will have products being shipped out that Microscale does not make placards for. I have not decided if I will put placards on these cars from the appropiate class but with incorrect numbers or wait to see I can find blank placards with numbers seperate.

[Junctionfan]

About the chlorine plant-I will have to add more sidings at the Dow Chemical than. Thankyou for the information about Plexiglass-I will rename the plant than Rohm and Haas. As far as the car numbers are concerned, the answer is yes. It will take some time but I have already accumulated alot of pictures and number series to have alot of correct prototypical rollingstock. The only thing that I wouldn't mind getting info about is I need more tankcars stenciled for Hydrofluoric acid and Methyl Methacrylate Monomer.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

I have in the works a giant layout I plan to build when I get my house. I have a gigantic amount of industries.

Ashland Chemical-inbound glycol; outbound nothing
General Mills-inbound grain; outbound food products
Ball Glass-inbound silica, hydroflouric acid; outbound nothing
Occidental Chemical-outbound chlorine
Eaglebrook Chemical-outbound ferrous chloride
Home Depot-inbound tools, building material, lumber
LTV Steel-inbound coal, scrap metal, coatings;outbound steel coils
Nova Chemicals-inbound ethalene oxide;outbound polyethalene
Safety-Kleen-outbound waste oils, glycols
Domtar Paper-inbound kaolin slurry, pulpwood, hydrogen peroxide;outbound paper
BASF-inbound pine trees; outbound methanol
Gilmann Paper-inbound woodchips; outbound paper
Unicolour-inbound carbon black
Exolon-inbound silica, coke; outbound silicon carbide
Vasuvius-inbound sand, coke; outbound silicon carbide
PPG Industries-outbound sodium hydroxide solution
Hamilton Beach-inbound plastic pellets, outbound appliances
3M-inbound vinyl chloride;outbound plastic pellets
Proctor&Gamble-inbound potash
LG-inbound argon
Duracell-inbound sulfuric acid
US Gypsum-inbound gypsum, outbound gypsum board
Esso Oil Refinery-inbound fuel additives; outbound liquified petroleum gas
Glidden-inbound xylene, toulene diisocynate
AGP-inbound grain;outbound vegatable oil
AE Staley-inbound grain;outbound corn syrup
Dow Chemical-outbound hydrochloric acid
Sysco Food Distribution-inbound refrigerated foods
Dupont-inbound cyclohexane;outbound adipic acid
International Metals-outbound scap metal
Alcan Aluminum-inbound soda ash;outbound aluminum coils; alumina
Ford assembly plant-inbound autoparts, frames;outbound autos
IMC-inbound anhydrous ammonia, phosphoric acid, sulfur;outbound fertilizer
Plexiglass-inbound menthyl methacrylate monomer
National Starch-inbound grain, outbound starches
Sundown Cement-outbound cement
Citgo-outbound tar, ashphalt, pitch

If I have more room, I will add other industries.

Sounds like it will be a facinating layout.

I have a few questions and comments that may add to the realism of you layout. Plants that produce chlorine almost always produce sodium hydroxide and hydrochloric acid. I believe that Plexiglas is a trademark of Rohm and Haas (it may be a different company). Also, some of the chemical names were spelled incorrectly (only makes a difference if you are going to make waybills [Is that what they are called?]). Hydrofluoric Acid, most people do incorrectly put the "o" before the "u". There is no "n" in methyl. Finally, what are you going to do about placards? Will they have the correct numbers? Good luck, sounds like a big project.