How loyal to the Union Pacific are you?

[railman]

Don't stress out writing the worries of the UP...convert now and model the MILWAUKEE ROAD...orange and black beats yellow and gray any day. And yes, (before I open myself to a broadside from UP folk) I know that Milw. painted some passenger units in UP colors. Milwaukee is still better, though. That "other" paint sceme was made acceptable by the nice red letters that spelled out "THE MILWAUKEE ROAD" on them.

[Anonymous]

I model UP 40'-50's steam and putting decals on engines is easy
UP is doing what the law allows so be it I really do not care. I do care about Steve Lee and his team I do support them by going out to see any steam trip that makes its way down here.,I also purchase items from thier site.
I do not care about what the UP corp. is doing as in dead trains and late shipments or that business I am not a stock holder whoop t doo. Most of everything I am intersted in has been razed to the ground and melted down to make hubcaps.
Steam fan 100% diesels waste of time

[twhite]

I own a few UP boxcars and gondolas. Of course I have a fleet of PFE reefers, but those were SP as much as UP (even WP, come to think of it). I don't have any UP steam locos on my roster, simply because I've never been partial to their looks. The only UP loco that ever remotely appealed to me was their 4-12-2's and God knows that I couldn't get one around my 36" radius curves, anyway. Since I don't model diesels at all, I couldn't say anything about their current roster, except that I always thought that Armour yellow and gray made a much more handsome PASSENGER paint scheme than freight. But that's my opinion. Of course, where I live in Northern California, UP now dominates, and that's another can of worms. But we're talking about models, not a prototype that uses the ex SP Donner Pass route as a parking lot while it dodges rockslides in the Feather River Canyon.

[vsmith]

The bigger issue between Athern and UP is the fallen flags issue, if Athern decides to stop producing UP what if they also stop producing all the myriad of other roadnames UP has aquired over the years? Thats an aweful lot of undecorated Blue Boxes!

Better learn to paint, guys!

Dan said it best, two companies acting stupidly. Mathamatic principles aside, two negatives don't equal any positives.

[Anonymous]

I don't like the UP.....never did and certainly never will. I don't like the fact that they destroyed all the neat railroads in my area (MP, MKT) and the SP. I don't care for their attitude and I really think they have their head up and locked about the licensing thing.

Never liked their steam power other than the FEF's either. I think the Pig Boy is grossly over rated.

I just hate the Yellow Horde! Remember........you asked!!

My 2¢
Roger

[Anonymous]

huber25.......Im with you all the way man,100%
[bow]BNSF[bow]

[ckape]

I've never really cared for the Union Pacific either, so any licensing issues from them don't really affect me much, and it's not like their equipment would show up other than through interchange anyway, and I can easily tone that down to near zero.

The whole fallen flags bit does affect my CNW nostalgia, but I've been trying to stick to modern equipment anyway.

[Anonymous]

If no more UP caars or engines were made it wont affect me. I model Conrail

[slotracer]

Remember folks, yellow can be one of the difficult colors to strip, but it can be done. Of course your locos will look far nicer in gray and red, or balck and orange, or green and black or whatever is your pleasure.

I have noted this before, but it would be an excellent idea to collect up what fallen flag decals sets you can, I'm sue many folks have high quality scanners and copiers, so these things can be reproduced out of the world of commerce. Folks can go on modeling the fallen flags and paint and decal like we all used to in the privacy of our own homes and it will never hit Uncle Pee's radar screen.

This happens all the time in the world of model car kits. Decals for taboo cars (Nascar beer and tobacco sposered cars are a classic example) get produced with no manufacurere name and show up in LHS's. They get bought up, copied and distributed amonst groups of friends. Preety hard for the jacka$$ lawyers to stop, let alone learn of or even trace that kind of activituy........who's to know if that painted and letterd unit is from bootleg decals, or if it was done using dsay microscale offerings you bouught and stockpiled a decade ago ?

[Anonymous]

I'm not loyal to the modern UP company. But I do own quite a few locomotives with their name on it. I stand in admiration of UP in the '50s. BIG BOYS and CHALLENGERS are bomb!

[blueriver]

Hi,
I am a big UP fan. I grew up around it and that is what I have always liked. I like the looks of other railroads but my first love of trains is the UP. It is unfortunate that there is a big stink about the logo and trademark lawsuits.
But I am still a fan and probably always will be.

blueriver

[ValorStorm]

Regarding "Athearn and Lionel have said no to UP licensing fees," the truth is that UP has said "no" to Athearn and Lionel.

[tstage]

Loyal to the upper peninsula? Sorry, I live in Ohio and root for the Buckeyes!

On a less serious note. I'm only loyal to the New York Central - and look what happened to them...[:0]

Tom

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's so much a matter of loyalty as much as it is what you like to model. I prefer western US and BIG steam and diesel. So naturally I run big boys and challengers for the UP. I also have UP F7's and a few UP freight cars and one passenger consist. I am considering a UP turbine and more freight cars, but have to expand the layout before I go much further. If the licensing costs a couple bucks extra, I won't have a problem. I also run ATSF passenger & freight, so if they have a licensing problem, I could be affected there also. Do I really care? No, almost all products today have licensed brand names and to boycott because of this would be IMHO non-productive. There are lots of reasons to boycott a product or company, such as poor employment practices, pollution of the enviornment, corrupt business practices (Enron) or just plain poor services or products. But to boycott just because of the brand name seems a waste of energy. If you don't like UP, don't buy it. I don't buy Pepsi Cola because I like Coca Cola better. But I don't boycott Pepsi because of their licensed trademark.

[darth9x9]

I have to have some of Uncle Pete's car on my pike or it wouldn't be prototypic.