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How loyal to the Union Pacific are you?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 4, 2004 7:04 PM
Humm ...

Are those who give up and/or boycott UP models (which will hurt the makers far more than UP) going to also boycott AMTRAK and now CSX , too ???

Like it or not, it's UP's legal option (in fact, the legal system has effectively told UP to use it or lose it - they can't NOT charge without losing their trademarks!), as it was AMTRAKs before them (via the Wathers, Kato, etc licences) and now CSX.

Brace for the other RRs to do the same thing.

In fact, I'm waiting on MAYTAG to start charging for the ROCK ISLAND (yes, they own it !!!).

As I have all the UP (one loco, some boxcars and a caboose) that I need, that would impact me FAR more than any UP fee. But I would pay it without any problems, as it is Maytag's right, too.

Meanwhile, I think ATHEARN is in a lot of legal trouble.




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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 4, 2004 7:09 PM
i like boxcars that are UP but i have preaty much all i need
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Posted by lhrfan on Friday, June 4, 2004 7:26 PM
After reading about the lawsuit, I'm going down to the layout and throwing out what few pieces of u.p. rolling stock I have. What a joke! Why don't they worry about moving the dead trains.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 4, 2004 8:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lhrfan

After reading about the lawsuit, I'm going down to the layout and throwing out what few pieces of u.p. rolling stock I have. What a joke! Why don't they worry about moving the dead trains.


Well, it's your MRR, but I don't see how this would help anything, regardless of your feelings.

Reminds me of when some people threw away their Beatle records after John's remark (or I guess the Dixie Chicks CDs, for a more modern example).

Bet they all bought them back later ......

But, hey, whatever makes you feel good!



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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 4, 2004 8:49 PM
I have an Athearn Flag unit only because I got a really good deal for it. I plan to strip the paint and give it a nice coat of scarlet and grey.[:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 4, 2004 10:22 PM
scarlet and grey EWW....lol why are some people so dumb..aka this quote..."im gonna go down and through my U.P. rolling stock away", lol why? your just throughing away your money...what every time you have something you dont like your gonna through it away? doesnt make sence. and people need to stop b******* about what U.P. has a legal right to do.but if you want to act juvenile and through away stuff with U.P. on it be my guess dont see how it solves anything.
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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:30 AM
Betsy Ross should have trademarked her red and white stripes with a blue field. Then UP would have to pay a royalty on every emblem they used with her design.
The UP corporate lawyers must have been bored and decided to stir up this controversy.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 1:03 PM
Ive got 1 UP boxcar., I think I will start using it for a doorstop for the train room[:P]
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Posted by darth9x9 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 1:07 PM
Careful kbfcsme,

UP lawyers will sue you for defacing and defaming their trademark logo. [(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D]

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Posted by dharmon on Saturday, June 5, 2004 2:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by up9899

scarlet and grey EWW....lol why are some people so dumb..aka this quote..."im gonna go down and through my U.P. rolling stock away", lol why? your just throughing away your money...what every time you have something you dont like your gonna through it away? doesnt make sence. and people need to stop b******* about what U.P. has a legal right to do.but if you want to act juvenile and through away stuff with U.P. on it be my guess dont see how it solves anything.


That's quite a convincing argument.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 5:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by up9899

scarlet and grey EWW....lol why are some people so dumb..aka this quote..."im gonna go down and through my U.P. rolling stock away", lol why? your just throughing away your money...what every time you have something you dont like your gonna through it away? doesnt make sence. and people need to stop b******* about what U.P. has a legal right to do.but if you want to act juvenile and through away stuff with U.P. on it be my guess dont see how it solves anything.


Who's the one acting juvenile? Once UP's merged lets see who's making comments.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 5:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darth9x9

Careful kbfcsme,

UP lawyers will sue you for defacing and defaming their trademark logo. [(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D]


You are probably right about that! Maybe I'll leave it in the box for now.
BTW, I see you've got yourself a star! [;)] Congrats! [:-,][swg][(-D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:21 PM
this is what i think *&^% UP! I am so sick of Up9899 $%^$& @$$ COMMENTS ABOUT HOW UP SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! JOEY TRUST ME YOU WILL GET SICK OF SEEING ONLY UP!there i got it out of my system
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:40 PM
naw it would be great!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CNWfan5525

this is what i think *&^% UP! I am so sick of Up9899 $%^$& @$$ COMMENTS ABOUT HOW UP SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! JOEY TRUST ME YOU WILL GET SICK OF SEEING ONLY UP!there i got it out of my system


Whoa Jay,,,Reeeeeelllaaaaaaaaxxx!! [^]You are right, eventually he will tire of Armour Yellow and rue the day he repaints any units. Nostalgia is a wonderful thing, give it a chance to work![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 8:44 PM
Heck NO!! never paint over Armour Yellow or Grey best colors out there...NEVER!!!! lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 9:37 AM
Very loyal![:D]I was born In Seattle on the Overland route!But I am also a bit upset that Uncle Pete's lawyers are suing athearn[:(!]!I have two armour yellow Mo-Pacs and I luv EM!I also love the Rocky mountain UP predecessor Rio Grande!And on my layout in a stupid feat I am going to make the Rio Grande as big as the Espee!And the Espee will be bought out by the Grande in 1902!So In 1998 the STB aprooves the Merger between the Grande and the Union Pacific! And the Grandes only 3rd gen power will be GP60's,C44-9W's,and AC440CW's[:D]! [|)]but UP comes in a close second[:D]!Why did I Make the grande the way it is on my layout?I'm REALLY BAD at weathering Espees,and also I wan't the grande to also run the PFE reefer train! And plus I want the Mo-Pac and the Grande to own the Western Pacific 50/50! So when the UP aquires the MP I can run WP's all the up until the Grande merger[dinner] then it can eat the WHOLE WP at last[:D](makes woody woodpecker style laugh!).
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 9:51 AM
My loyalties are in this order
1)Santa Fe
2)SP
3)BN
4)UP last, and no, I'm not saving the best for last
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Posted by Junctionfan on Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:23 AM
I don't particularly care on being loyal to the company. I'm not a major shareholder-just a modeler. I model CSX so it is need to use UP power and rollingstock but I'm not going to repaint them or anything. I don't particularly like E Hunter Harrison because I think he is a terrible CEO and an arrogant man but it does't mean I'm chucking my CN stuff. Eventually thease guys will kick off, retire or get canned so their stupidity is only temperary-modeling will live forever.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:05 AM
WHAT IS UNION PACIFIC??????????????? It sure give a lot of people something to yak about. Out of 2-300 cars that I own, I don't think that I've got a single UP car. I have a lot of Swift, Cudahy, Colo. Southern, and a slew of the older railroads. Most of my locos are for the "Almost Nothing" and I paid the licensing fee to be able to do that. If you don't like what UP is doing, stop buying their stuff. Money is what this country is about. (We were setteled so we could send riches back to Europe.) I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but if I see something that I don't like, I don't support it with my dollar. The only exception is my tax dollar and I have no control over that. It isn't going to matter to us what happens with UP, Athearn, and Lionel. If Athearn is put out of business someone else will step up to the plate. Central valley cars are no longer available (I thought I'd die when they went out), but their are more craftsman kits now, then their were in CV's hayday.

I think that all UP sites should have a mark or something in the subject line so we'd know what NOT to look at.

Have a blessed day and remember SANTA FE ALL THE WAY

Bob
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Posted by Hawks05 on Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:01 PM
i have nothing UP except some CNW stuff, a 2 hoppers is all i think. i'd like to buy a couple UP locos though, i really like the flags on the side. so if i can find a few like that i'll buy those.

when i first started in the hobby i hated UP because i heard how they were trying to have their stuff being licensed and all of that. but now that i'm into it a little more and i'm starting to take pictures of the trains i'm liking them more and more. mainly because thats all i see run through town. i've only ever seen a NS loco and a CSX once. and boy do i wish i had a camera then. especially the NS.
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Posted by relucas on Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:38 PM
I believe U.P. should be paying the model makers for wanting to put there logos on models. FREE advertising goes a long way. If model makers wanted to put my name on an engine I'd be happy as a kid in a candy store. If that big of a company needs the money that bad then I'm happy with my few engines and will not buy more. Cause it all comes down to one thing and one thing only MONEY! So for now N.S and CSX will be my biggest model interest.[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 2:07 PM
No loyalty to UP at all. I just love model trains. Anything that runs will do.
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Posted by trainfan1221 on Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:05 PM
A couple of cars. Nothing against UP, I just have no need for a UP painted engine currently.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:40 PM
I must say that it is always fun to see new interest in an old topic. It's kind of funny that for as little attachment to UP as I have, lately I have found myself taking a lot of photos of UP engines and trains. They actually look pretty cool. UP will be represented on my layout, because they are part of the big picture, though they aren't the main focus. Personally I would rather paint than pay. It's their attitude in this whole thing that bugs me the most.

On the other hand, seeing them up close makes a bit of a difference.












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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CNWfan5525

this is what i think *&^% UP! I am so sick of Up9899 $%^$& @$$ COMMENTS ABOUT HOW UP SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! JOEY TRUST ME YOU WILL GET SICK OF SEEING ONLY UP!there i got it out of my system


It's a wonder you didn't post that earlier....
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:13 PM
Screw the Union Pacific!
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Posted by lupo on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 5:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tip09

Screw the Union Pacific!


[#welcome] to the forum tip09

Now that is an interesting statement from a newbe [bow] can you elaborate on that? [:p]
these opinions is what makes these kind of topics so pleasant to read!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 7:44 AM
That paint on those locomotives are so ugly that I "WILL NEVER" photograph any UP ever again! And the attacks on the model ind,is an ATTACK! I hope that the UP has a big huge Meltdown! Hell thay can't even keep the freight moving because that there in such bad shape.
"EVERY TIME I SEE UNION -PACIFIC................I THINK OF "GREED".
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 11:20 AM
I have become so disenthralled by the actions of Union Pacific that I very nearly repainted every UP Piece of Rolling stock into GN, CB&Q, BN, or my freelance TV&C. But cooler heads prevailed. My Union Pacific items are going to be curtailed heavily and the only UP Items I see my self purchasing at anytime in the is made by Bowser and Revell-Monogram. (The tinkering craftsman inside needs an outlet) I still may repaint alot of my UP locomotives as they have no bearing on what I actually model and repainting them in my view is a much better way to dispose of a UP locomotive than selling it or outright trashing it. (Or giving it to that UP9899 fellow as he once suggested). I do have to admit there are about 6 UP locomotives in my collection that would be immune from the spray job treatment for the following reasons. First is that my Bachmann U33B and F9 A were the two locomotives that came in the train sets that got me started in the hobby. My Athearn DD40 and F7A were models that my dad custom painted for me. My Bachmann GP40 was the first locomotive I bought that didn't come in a trainset. and my UP 4-8-4 was the first "real" steam locomotive model I purchased. (The Spectrum Heavyweight train that goes with it will be immune as well) However I find poetic justice in the fact that my Supposed UP 4-8-4 Uses a Santa Fe boiler and a Southern Pacific Tender.

Now with my views communicated where is my mill file? I need a Bowser Challenger, a Kemtron Centipede tender, and fixin's to do a greyhound paint scheme.

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