How loyal to the Union Pacific are you?

[Anonymous]

Heck NO!! never paint over Armour Yellow or Grey best colors out there...NEVER!!!! lol

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNWfan5525

this is what i think *&^% UP! I am so sick of Up9899 $%^$& @$$ COMMENTS ABOUT HOW UP SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! JOEY TRUST ME YOU WILL GET SICK OF SEEING ONLY UP!there i got it out of my system

Whoa Jay,,,Reeeeeelllaaaaaaaaxxx!! [^]You are right, eventually he will tire of Armour Yellow and rue the day he repaints any units. Nostalgia is a wonderful thing, give it a chance to work![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

naw it would be great!

[Anonymous]

this is what i think *&^% UP! I am so sick of Up9899 $%^$& @$$ COMMENTS ABOUT HOW UP SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! JOEY TRUST ME YOU WILL GET SICK OF SEEING ONLY UP!there i got it out of my system

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by darth9x9

Careful kbfcsme,

UP lawyers will sue you for defacing and defaming their trademark logo. [(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D]

You are probably right about that! Maybe I'll leave it in the box for now.
BTW, I see you've got yourself a star! [;)] Congrats! [:-,][swg][(-D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by up9899

scarlet and grey EWW....lol why are some people so dumb..aka this quote..."im gonna go down and through my U.P. rolling stock away", lol why? your just throughing away your money...what every time you have something you dont like your gonna through it away? doesnt make sence. and people need to stop b******* about what U.P. has a legal right to do.but if you want to act juvenile and through away stuff with U.P. on it be my guess dont see how it solves anything.

Who's the one acting juvenile? Once UP's merged lets see who's making comments.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by up9899

scarlet and grey EWW....lol why are some people so dumb..aka this quote..."im gonna go down and through my U.P. rolling stock away", lol why? your just throughing away your money...what every time you have something you dont like your gonna through it away? doesnt make sence. and people need to stop b******* about what U.P. has a legal right to do.but if you want to act juvenile and through away stuff with U.P. on it be my guess dont see how it solves anything.

That's quite a convincing argument.

[darth9x9]

Careful kbfcsme,

UP lawyers will sue you for defacing and defaming their trademark logo. [(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D]

[Anonymous]

Ive got 1 UP boxcar., I think I will start using it for a doorstop for the train room[:P]

[gmpullman]

Betsy Ross should have trademarked her red and white stripes with a blue field. Then UP would have to pay a royalty on every emblem they used with her design.
The UP corporate lawyers must have been bored and decided to stir up this controversy.

[Anonymous]

scarlet and grey EWW....lol why are some people so dumb..aka this quote..."im gonna go down and through my U.P. rolling stock away", lol why? your just throughing away your money...what every time you have something you dont like your gonna through it away? doesnt make sence. and people need to stop b******* about what U.P. has a legal right to do.but if you want to act juvenile and through away stuff with U.P. on it be my guess dont see how it solves anything.

[Anonymous]

I have an Athearn Flag unit only because I got a really good deal for it. I plan to strip the paint and give it a nice coat of scarlet and grey.[:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by lhrfan

After reading about the lawsuit, I'm going down to the layout and throwing out what few pieces of u.p. rolling stock I have. What a joke! Why don't they worry about moving the dead trains.

Well, it's your MRR, but I don't see how this would help anything, regardless of your feelings.

Reminds me of when some people threw away their Beatle records after John's remark (or I guess the Dixie Chicks CDs, for a more modern example).

Bet they all bought them back later ......

But, hey, whatever makes you feel good!

[lhrfan]

After reading about the lawsuit, I'm going down to the layout and throwing out what few pieces of u.p. rolling stock I have. What a joke! Why don't they worry about moving the dead trains.

[Anonymous]

i like boxcars that are UP but i have preaty much all i need

[Anonymous]

Humm ...

Are those who give up and/or boycott UP models (which will hurt the makers far more than UP) going to also boycott AMTRAK and now CSX , too ???

Like it or not, it's UP's legal option (in fact, the legal system has effectively told UP to use it or lose it - they can't NOT charge without losing their trademarks!), as it was AMTRAKs before them (via the Wathers, Kato, etc licences) and now CSX.

Brace for the other RRs to do the same thing.

In fact, I'm waiting on MAYTAG to start charging for the ROCK ISLAND (yes, they own it !!!).

As I have all the UP (one loco, some boxcars and a caboose) that I need, that would impact me FAR more than any UP fee. But I would pay it without any problems, as it is Maytag's right, too.

Meanwhile, I think ATHEARN is in a lot of legal trouble.

[csxns]

Union Pacific and CSX are the RR's i most model NS and BNSF are second.Yes i am loyal to the UP.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I'm extremely loyal to UP. I don't really approve of this copyrighting stuff, but hey, they've been around for over a century, so let them do what they will. If they stopped producing UP models, I'd die, or model ATSF.

Jonathon, this is actually about the trademark, which is a little different from copyright. See the little TM next to the logo you are using. Technically you shouldn't be using that, but everyone here knows that you don't REPRESENT the railroad, you just LIKE it a lot. If you were selling something you could get into trouble. Of course that is what all the comotion is about, because after all these years UP has suddenly decided to enforce their rights over it's use.

Thanks everyone, you are proving my point perfectly. Keep the responses coming.

Oh, sorry Elliot, I wrote the wrong thing. I ment trademarking. It is different than copyrighting, I know. Yeah, ALL the UP logos have the TM next to them now. Sheesh!

[Anonymous]

Not loyal to any of them at all and especially the Union Pacific! I don't give a Rat's ___ if they have the right to collect moneys for the use of their logo, colors, etc., etc. This whole situation is assinine and even if they arn't embarrased over their actions, I am embarrased by it!

[Anonymous]

I am not really big on the U.P. I have a few engines and cars, I like the paint. I wouldn't go out of my way to get one, unless I liked the way it looks.

[Jetrock]

I have a couple of UP cars (a stock car and a reefer) but just about everything else in my collection is Southern Pacific, Western Pacific and Sacramento Northern. Even though all are now fallen flags, they are considered to be "Union Pacific property."

It's STUPID.

And yeah, yeah, I know, it's the law.

But the law in question is STUPID.

Athearn charging extra for UP models but refusing to pay the fee is stupid too--all that means is that there are TWO stupid organizations butting heads--but UP has a lot more money and power. The fact that one stupid organization sues another stupid organization does not mean that they are not stupid.

I wouldn't even give a damn about the whole farce if they didn't insist that SN, SP, WP etcetera, must be licensed as well.

[AggroJones]

I'm not loyal to any railroad corperation. I would be happy if UP went bankrupt and died.
I own a few UP freight cars cause I like the paint schemes and the FEF-3 because its design is beautiful.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

Athearn and Lionel have said no to UP licensing fees.

If no more model trains were made with Union Pacific markings, would you care?

Yes. I'd hate to see the loss of any model train products because of licensing issues. If [scale model] manufacturers dropped production of one, whose to say that there wouldn't be additional cuts in the future over the smallest infraction? Imagine: no more Santa Fe models because of a row with BNSF? Tragic, just tragic.

I think a large number of us already lament the demise of prototypical railroads due to mergers, etc. in the real world. We shouldn't have to bare the loss of their scale model counterparts, too. That would be a real let down for the hobby.[:(]

[Allen Jenkins]

http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/localnews/current/ba/06-03-04-307130.html , so, what's all your paranoia about the fact your using a product un- regulated by and unauthorized by the very entity that carved a life out of this great land. Here, in a moment of hesitation, a corporate, is to pay out the *** for just what a part of the environment has incurred opon the rights of way, and so needed it is, to compensate for punitive damages, which will never be repaid. Sony finances a video, played on MTV, "Big Locomotive," 1989, which depicts a UP DD40X in a high speed collision on a basement model railroad. Get It? A BASEMENT MODEL RAILROAD! Shows the world how.... Then Areosmith, bless their hearts, produced "Living on the Edge." ....and so. What would you do? The law can't touch this, the only legal rercouse is to do formally what is being done. And, at the expense of higher pricing (also called the cost of doing business), remember, these companies, howerver cherished, however loved, are actually, flagrantly breaking the very copyright laws they would use to sue your very *** off with. So use the bandwidth for something constructive. Save a life, or something. Many threads are under-way to suggest Uncle Pete should just kick the bucket! Enjoy Getting Over It!acj.

[IRONROOSTER]

I have one stock car and three reefers. Since I am into eastern roads, UP doesn't really fit except for some interchange cars. Otherwise I am neutral on them. I think licensing fallen flag trademarks is not in keeping with the spirit of trademark laws whether or not it is legal. Lionel btw makes one part with the Ives name just to keep the trademark active. If UP was to paint some cars in the fallen flag colors and logos then I would be comfortable with that also.
Enjoy
Paul

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by up9899

hey i wouldnt mind U.P. to keep growing and gobeling up all these short lines and what not.

Besides US railroads taking over Mexican railroads I don't think any railroad that exists today will buy anything else (exept for CN).

[cacole]

I certainly don't go out of my way to acquire UP items. I was raised in Southern Illinois so my favorites are still the Illinois Central, Missouri Pacific, Chicago and Eastern Illinois, Nickel Plate, Louisville and Nashville, and other midwestern roads.

[Anonymous]

hey i wouldnt mind U.P. to keep growing and gobeling up all these short lines and what not.

[Anonymous]

UP models belonging to a Burlington Route fan?


Heck no!

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I'm extremely loyal to UP. I don't really approve of this copyrighting stuff, but hey, they've been around for over a century, so let them do what they will. If they stopped producing UP models, I'd die, or model ATSF.

Jonathon, this is actually about the trademark, which is a little different from copyright. See the little TM next to the logo you are using. Technically you shouldn't be using that, but everyone here knows that you don't REPRESENT the railroad, you just LIKE it a lot. If you were selling something you could get into trouble. Of course that is what all the comotion is about, because after all these years UP has suddenly decided to enforce their rights over it's use.

Thanks everyone, you are proving my point perfectly. Keep the responses coming.