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Teen Model Railroader Place- November 2009

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, November 27, 2009 12:17 PM

 Joe, thanks man. can you believe the camera on those nanos?

 GEC, hehe, you're never to old to make videos; in fact, gott he idea from this fellow member of nscale.org

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Posted by green_elite_cab on Friday, November 27, 2009 11:12 AM

 lol, i gotta start making videos of my stuff.  It is nearly the end of the line for me.  On december 4th, i'll no longer be a teenager, lol.   of course, everythign is ina continual state of creative destruction.  My layout hasn't looked "nice" in years!

 

I still need to build catenary. GRR! to much! 

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:07 PM

Uh, I have no clue why I said that! I knew that the ALPs were factory painted, but said that anyway! lol

Sawyer, very nice! Your layout is comin along quickly

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:59 PM

 http://www.youtube.com/user/sbpackernut

update video. There are backdrops!

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Posted by green_elite_cab on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:26 PM

What do you mean?  Atlas ALP44s come painted.  they don't use the ALP46 on those trains.  besides, the only major detail you'd really have to change is the dynamic break box (in my opinion).  everything else is close enough for reason. 

 either way, it would be cool to do.  I would have much fun building that train. 

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:36 PM

See, an ACES set would do me no good. I'd have to buy the ALP and the P40, as well as decals for both. That, and I don't model the NEC or the ACL Wink

I'd probably do the same thing, get a cab and a trailer, and then get additional trailers later.


Hmmm, ditch lights on trailers? Very interesting... As for the diaphragm I can see how that can be an issue, although mostly just a PITA.
And the fact that the windows aren't included doesn't help...

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Posted by green_elite_cab on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:19 PM

well, a 4 car train could have you an ACES set.  You could make those decals from Trim film, or if you have a good computer program, you can print your own decals.  All I'd need is a P40DC (already have the ALP44).    I think you have to buy the multilevels a car at a time.  thats gonna be my plan when i finally get past the holidays.  I'll buy a cab and a coach to start, then add until i get a reasonable train.   I'm hoping i can make my ALP46 run well, but i'm unsure of the pulling power of the European models I'm looking at.

 

The Comet Vs have a lot of molded on detail that doesn't help it.  there are also things like ditch lights and such that should not be there, as well as some other detail problems related to the ends.  Chief amongst them are ditchlights on cars without cab ends,  and on the cab car, the diaphragm is molded on.  it doesn't look good unless painted up right.   

there is just a whole lot of work behind the Comet Vs.   

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 PM

The MLs do have windows. It is the CVs that don't. Like you said, I just wish they were a little less expensive. A 6 car set with a PL42 would be somewhere in the range of $600, probably more... And then there would be a 9 car set with an ALP. Forget it!
With a small layout, maybe you could get away with, say a 4 car train and still have it look good. You could start with running just one set, and then maybe building your fleet.

And they look VERY nice. I've never seen one in person, but from the photos, they look amazing.
And why do the CVs look bad (or at least not as good as the MLs)?

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Posted by green_elite_cab on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:42 PM

 At $65 car (not counting wheels, window sets, or decals),  its alittle tough to justify buying them outright.  I already have both the ALP46 and the PL42AC (painted, decaled and ready to go), but i have been unable to justify buying the cars. 

 I have some other stuff thats "cheaper" that i think i need to pick up first. 

 that said, the HO Multilevels were REALLY well done, compared to the Comet Vs.  I've seen them in person.   Joe at IMW has don't an excellent job.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:07 PM

Thanks! Yes, the light is from another train and is refracting through the Grafton Depot windows. (actually, I never modeled Grafton...the photo was taken in New Poland before The Rebuild. Wink)

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:45 PM

Yeah, I had that same thought with the windows. Maybe if I put interior lights in, it could work.
If anything, maybe I could just put destination signs in the windows. Since it would be impossible to program different destinations into them, I'll probably just make them say "NJ Transit," since the sometimes say that.

And no, I don't. Same here, I've done nothing but put them off...

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Posted by green_elite_cab on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:19 PM

 I've never been in a multilevel so those are interesting shots.   I'm not sure it would be worth it to model the interior though,  as the windows on those kits are shaded, i don't know how well you could see in them. 

 

do you have the cars yet? i keep putting them off, but i better buy some. 

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:51 AM

Jamie: That's quite a load (no pun intended) you got there!

Tyler: Very nice! Where's that light from, another train?


Well, now I have a few pix when I begin modelling Transit Multilevels. I thought it would be cool (and really really really unique!) to model one (probably only one, because it'd be so tedious) with a full interior (MAYBE):

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:24 PM

 Sweet pic Tyler. I don't have lights for my RR yet, and DC sucks for taking pics w/ healdights.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:20 PM

CDWJ idles at the Grafton, NH, crew change.


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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:11 PM

 Sweet cars Jamie.

GG, that's freelanced as well, right?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:57 PM

Tour de Chooch is Sunday, I might go railfanning Monday. You can come. If it rains then I could probably hang out its just money is an issue.

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Posted by RailfanS on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:46 PM

Hi guys,

Well just wanted to share some new cars with you:




I acctually bought these at the beginning of the month, but just got the loads in today. They are Walthers Gold Line 4000 Cu. Ft. 3-Bay coal hoppers with Loadking/Dan's Resin loads. I think they'll go nicely with my SD70MAC (BN Executive) and my F45 (Cascade Green W/ Sound). The are the heaviest, highest quality, and most expencive cars in my fleet right now (about $11 a car with the load). I figured it was time to get some rolling stock that matched the quality of my locomotives. This is just a start, I plan to buy more hoppers as I can afford them and eventually have a HUGE coal drag (you know, 100+ carsSmile,Wink, & Grin).

If I don't speak again before then: Happy Thanksgiving

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:51 PM

I spent all afternoon today working on the layout, adjusting track, turnouts, and equipment. The layout is now (almost) flawless and ready for the next operating session, and my reversing circuit switch is installed and finished. I took apart #8569 to try to fix the headlights...got both of them to light up, got the shell back on, then tested...now only the front one works. Three steps forward...three steps back...I'm right where I started! Banged Head I'm leaving it with no rear headlight until I HAVE to take it apart again to fix something or swap out the faulty decoder.

But now I'm ready for an operating session! I doubt anyone is free this weekend because of Thanksgiving, but if you are Alex, shoot me an email and I'll see if you can come over to play with choo-choos. Tongue

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM

Not Aiken Northern... 


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Posted by Packers#1 on Monday, November 23, 2009 3:56 PM

Guilford Guy
You'll need some ANRY cars then... (Not ANRR)

 

huh? The name is Aiken Northern Railroad, reporting marks ANRR. there ain't an ANRY (Aiken Northern Railway).

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:59 PM
You'll need some ANRY cars then... (Not ANRR)

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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:58 PM

When I get around to actually getting cars, I'll have cars from each of your railroads!

If you guys wanna, you can have Tri-State cars. Just let me know, and I'll give you the infoooooo....

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:45 PM

 Tyler, it'd be better to make it a SCGW car.

How the SCGW fits in:

 (excerpt from the history of the ANRR)

"In 1996, the Aiken Northern Railroad signed a corporate partnership with the South Carolina, Georgia, and Western; a railroad bringing bridge traffic from ports long the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers in Tennessee and Kentucky through the Appalachian Mountains in North and South Carolina and Georgia to ports along the Atlantic coast in SC, Georgia, and the north bit of Florida. By signing this partnership, the ANRR kept it's corporate identity, while allowing captive car service from the SCGW to roll on their own lines and having a parent company that could help with the track maintenance etc. In return, the SCGW received the revenues from a bustling shortline railroad in Aiken and Edgefield counties."

The captive car services will be those CSX boxcars mainly. Also, the SCGW would be more likely to own cars than the ANRR. I'll probably keep the old AAT numbering system for freight cars though.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:27 PM

 I was thinking 100 or 101... Looks like I wont have ditch lights in until Springfield because of money issues.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:25 PM

Alex is lobbying for a Walthers Magic Pan Bakery to be built in West Canaan, so I might replace Lebanon Cold Storage with a plastic pellet plant someday - that's the only industry that I don't mind replacing since it's just a piece of foam-core board leaned against the backdrop right now. Plastic pellet plants make good background buildings!

I was going with a five-digit numbering system (20000 series was boxcars) until I bought 4900 from Alex. Someday I'll get around to putting car data decals on it...I puchased them this summer and they've been in a drawer ever since!

What are you going to number the caboose, Alex?

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I had an old mechanical reefer patched for the AAT at one point - right now it's in primer paint and I'm going to put patch over patch over patch and weather it into submission. I might make it an AN car if you're not modeling something else by the time I get around to that project! Wink

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:33 PM
I'd have thought a broader spectrum of numbering be applied but oh well, yeah that 4900 boxcar was supposed to be in the 4000 series boxcars! Tongue

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:39 PM

 Gotcha man. they're plastic pellet hoppers. If the WRS ever needed a new source of business, a factory using plastic pellets might work well. could be on an unmodeled portion.

I'll probably make at least one WRS, probably both since they were lettered for the same company. I also have plenty of future cars for the SCGW.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:28 PM

Packers#1
lol, idk what numbers the WRS would want though.

 

If you wanted one or both to be WRS cars, covered hoppers are in the 4700 series. Here's the WRS designations for rolling stock. (Alex, pay attention for when you decal my caboose! Wink)

- 4100s: Cabooses
- 4200s: MOW equipment
- 4300s: Other
- 4400s: Flatcars
- 4500s: Gondolas
- 4600s: Hoppers
- 4700s: Covered hoppers
- 4800s: Reefers
- 4900s: Boxcars

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:17 PM

TrainManTy

Packers#1
Probably going to give them reporting marks for the South Carolina, Georgia, and Western

 

Awwww...the car looks red and rusted enough to be owned by the WRS! Smile,Wink, & Grin

 

Those are actually two different hoppers.

lol, idk what numbers the WRS would want though. Shoot me a PM

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