I saw this on ebay and was intrigued
I've seen the regular Indiana Harbor Belt 0-8-0 from Rivarossi
But never one with a Triplex type tender
Does any one know who makes this tender
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I saw this at a train show last weekend and It was in a riv box. I assume it is rivarossi along with the engine. It was listed at the show for around $90.00? Looks like this one was upgraded with kadee couplers.
Mike
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That's interesting Mike
Here's what i'm used to seeing For the 0-8-0
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivarossi-HO-Rivarossi-L-0-8-0-R-tender-NO-motor_W0QQitemZ220380691193QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains?hash=item220380691193&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
I was totally unaware that Rivarossi made such a loco
Yeah that is what I am working on right now. I have 2 that do not run, one has a split wheel the other one not sure yet. I bought the second on to fix the first one but the gears are different in the second one so now it is off to fix them both.
The pics appear to be of a standard Rivarossi IHB 0-8-0 that someone kitbashed (or "foobie-ized"?) by putting the tender body over the chassis of another steam engine...possibly a Rivarossi 0-6-0 with an added trailing truck. I know of no prototype for the engine, and in the Rivarossi catalogues I have going back to the early 80's I've never seen an engine they made with the driving wheels under the tender like this.
wjstix The pics appear to be of a standard Rivarossi IHB 0-8-0 that someone kitbashed (or "foobie-ized"?) by putting the tender body over the chassis of another steam engine...possibly a Rivarossi 0-6-0 with an added trailing truck. I know of no prototype for the engine, and in the Rivarossi catalogues I have going back to the early 80's I've never seen an engine they made with the driving wheels under the tender like this.
I concur. Nothing like this ever existed in the real world (although the Rivarossi 0-8-0 was at one time issued with "booster" unit on the tender's lead truck), nor has been available as such a unit in HO.
Neither does the tender shown by the OP resemble the actual tenders of either the Erie or Viginian triplexes.
As wjstix suggests, this appears to most likely be the mechanism of an 0-6-0, or part of a 2-6-2 less the pilot and lead truck, stuffed under someone's tender.
CNJ831
Looks like someone misunderstood the term Tender Booster. As noted, the prototype IHB 0-8-0 had a Franklin tender booster - recognizable by the siderods on what was otherwise a normal-looking tender truck.
Nice job of assembly, though, although I wonder about having the rear engine exhaust through the cistern.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
The engine appears to be an AHM/Riva, These came with 3 different motor configurations. First was the tender mounted motor, then the cab mounted. This type had a small gear box attatched to the motor, then followed through to a worm on the gear of the wheel. The third is a vertical motor with a worm.
Who ever built this wanted allot of extra pulling power, it is a neat peice of work, never seen anything like that before.
It's definitely a custom tender. They lowered the coal bunker to about 1/4 its original height, and stuck the whole thing on an 0-6-0 chassis with a trailing truck. I have a Rivarossi 0-6-0, so I'd recognize that chassis anywhere. The two engines have different gear ratios, so unless the owner did some gear modifications, they wouldn't run well together.
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C&O Fan I saw this on ebay and was intrigued I've seen the regular Indiana Harbor Belt 0-8-0 from Rivarossi But never one with a Triplex type tender
That looks like someone's homemade model of a duplex. Below is a model of a 2-8-2+2-8-0 (the large picture) and the prototype (the small picture). The railroad added the drivers, lead wheels, and frame from a Consolidation and placed it under the tender of the Mikado. Interestingly, the tender's drivers are smaller than the cab/boiler drivers.
tomikawaTT I wonder about having the rear engine exhaust through the cistern.
I wonder about having the rear engine exhaust through the cistern.
Undoubtedly, the steam exhaust pipe from the tender's cylinders passed completely through the tank so steam never entered it, but I'd think having the stack at the back end of the tender would be simpler and more practical than having it pierce the tank. This required that the tender frame extend beyond the tank, creating a little platform so there would be space for the coupler.
Mark
tomikawaTT Looks like someone misunderstood the term Tender Booster. As noted, the prototype IHB 0-8-0 had a Franklin tender booster - recognizable by the siderods on what was otherwise a normal-looking tender truck. Nice job of assembly, though, although I wonder about having the rear engine exhaust through the cistern. Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
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Here's a pic of a real IHB 0-8-0. You can spot the tender booster on the front tender truck by the fact that it has siderods.
http://www.dhke.com/ihbarchive/stmpix.html
Someone was having some fun, and they did a nice workmanlike job of it. the nitpickers would probably point out that the cylinders for the booster seem rather small for exhaust cylinders.
Rich Weyand took the familiar N&W Y6b in N scale, basically a Rivarossi model, and powered the tenders with an Alco diesel drive. Actually I seem to recall he had special tender castings that were slightly longer than prototype to do this, so that his Y6bs could haul trains up his steep grades and helix. You can read about his layout here:
http://users.rcn.com/weyand/pocadiv/pocahontas.htm
Dave Nelson
rrinker tomikawaTT I wonder about having the rear engine exhaust through the cistern. Pre-heater!
Actually, the rear low-pressure steam exhaust of the Erie Triplex's rear set of drivers passed through a feedwater heater in the tender before exiting via a 20" diameter vertical pipe at the rear of the tender.
Unlike normal compound locomotives (which used steam twice), the low-pressure cylinders on the first and last driver set were the same diameter (rather than larger) as the high-pressure middle driver set.
Ok i found this on ebay and it seem to be a true booster style tender
Didn't know Rivarossi made these either
http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-STEAM-ENGINE-SANTA-FE-0-8-0-AT-SF-W-TENDER-BOOSTER_W0QQitemZ120369530099QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains?hash=item120369530099&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting
Ok so I'm crazy but i went ahead and bought the thing
I guess cause i'm curious to see it run
next big problem will be converting it to DCC
C&O Fan Ok so I'm crazy but i went ahead and bought the thing I guess cause i'm curious to see it run next big problem will be converting it to DCC
In reponse to inquiries about DCCing my two-motored duplex, the suggestion/recommendation was to use a separate decoder for each motor. I haven't pursued the project any further, yet. Good luck, and let us know how the conversion turns out.