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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:36 PM

Here's his only ex CB&Q SD24 roster shot. If you need more ideas he should have a few ex CB&Q SD7/9 roster shots.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=252765&nseq=1

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:24 PM

Packer

The forum's been acting up lately. The new software bites... 

Tyler, are cars going to hit the station building in New poland? (that's what the sign says)

Jordan, nice engines specifically the third and the last one. Does the first one have DCC/sound? After seeing the ATSF SD45, I wonder if Athearn will do the BN SD-45 6430, since they did GN 400. (guess what's special about that unit)

I think I'm going to keep the CB&Q SD24 I got, since it would be prototypical. The only qualm I have about making it fit in is patching it (never have worked with decals) and weathering it to the point where it is almost pink and white.Shock Now I look to find a sound-equipped SD24, and possibly get the mars lights to work.

The SD60M doesn't have DCC and sound, but is very heavy. P2K SD45s and SD60s are their best pullers...Tongue...BN 6430 was GN 400, they kept the Hustle Mustle logo on it. Patching is easy...espically BN's patches. Just a little "BN XXXX" under the CB&Q logo, and the orginal number patched out. Just remember to weather before you patch. Kevin Piper has some wonderful CB&Q roster shots of BNs patches.

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Posted by Packer on Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:03 PM

The forum's been acting up lately. The new software bites... 

Tyler, are cars going to hit the station building in New poland? (that's what the sign says)

Jordan, nice engines specifically the third and the last one. Does the first one have DCC/sound? After seeing the ATSF SD45, I wonder if Athearn will do the BN SD-45 6430, since they did GN 400. (guess what's special about that unit)

I think I'm going to keep the CB&Q SD24 I got, since it would be prototypical. The only qualm I have about making it fit in is patching it (never have worked with decals) and weathering it to the point where it is almost pink and white.Shock Now I look to find a sound-equipped SD24, and possibly get the mars lights to work.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Bapou on Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:03 PM
Packers#1, 0-5-0 is a term everyone knows... My question is, what are you doing with a White Sox poster when we all know Red Sox rule! Laugh
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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:02 PM

 Choo choo...

Jordan did you get my email?

There's a guy with an SDL39 for 40$

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:03 PM

Tyler, nice work! Where will you be placing the street running? I personally love street running.

Sawyer, atleast you can run trains. I can only look at mine!

Well yesterday I went to the Mad city train show. I didn't buy what I was looking for, because no one HAD what I was looking for. But I setteled for some good deals.

First I'll show you a P2K SD60M in BN.

Next I bought an ATSF SD45 from Athearn. This is one of the new releases, for 70 dollers I couldn't pass this up! Later on I will patch this for the WC.

Last, I bought a P2K BN SD45. This will also be patched for the WC.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:58 AM

 Pretty sure that Geep had "Sou" stenciled under the number too.

 finally, Finally, FINALLY, I can run trains again

got this up and running last night. I still have to run wires for the turntable and all the tracks off of it, but I can finally run trains

 



I want to explain this though. I got this idea off another forum. Where those cars are parked is the 0-5-0 switcher interchange track, the 0-5-0 switcher being your 4 fingers and thumb:




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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:06 AM

Railfan Alex

NS has ordered 4400HP AC traction, 24 of them!

 

No, I know that, I was just building on the idea that NS was still all high-hood.

Here are the photos I promised...

Ogden Siding:

I put down a couple old switches to show the new track arrangement in New Poland. Just picture the tracks connecting...

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:54 AM

NS has ordered 4400HP AC traction, 24 of them!

http://jreb.org/ns/index.php?topic=6356.msg18529

So obviously some of the units were not from previous railroads like the SD60I's and the SD80MAC's, but everything HH is either from NW or SOU. And you have so many switchers.

So that's why I said they are still around, but you won't see them on the mainline, leading NS's TOFC.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:28 AM

Guilford Guy
Ya' know, GE is now building ES44AC's high hood. Wink

 

You mean ES40DCs... NS still doesn't like 4400 HP or AC traction... Whistling

I don't think the Pennsy had any SD80MACs either...

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, February 20, 2009 11:11 PM
Ya' know, GE is now building ES44AC's high hood. Wink

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Posted by Packer on Friday, February 20, 2009 10:26 PM

ns3010

On all NS units, the heritage is painted under the number. For example, if a unit's original heritage was the Pennsy, below the number, it would say "PRR". A Southern heritage unit is labeled "SOU".

Pennsy never had SD60Is, yet NS SD60Is have PRR under the windows. So I'm siding with GG, and yes there are several of the high-hood units around. (friend's photos he took a few weeks ago in New Orleans)

In other news, I just snagged a pair of SD24s on ebay for $128 bucks. One's BN, the other is CB&Q. The fun part about the CB&Q unit is I could patch it, run it as is (hasn't been patched yet; either one would require heavy fading since the red started to look pinkish around merger time on these units), or try to trade it for another BN. Descisions, desicions...

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, February 20, 2009 3:11 PM

 I can personally say the high hood units are still alive and kicking. There was a high-hood GP38-2 parked downtown around a month ago when our youth-group went bowling (there's a bowling lane right beside the tracks). Also, going to school in the mornings, I can usually look down and see oif there's a loco or cars parked out by the freight office (I'm not sure what it is, but I know it's a small RR building w/ an unused loading dock), and I can sometimes tell from the outline if it's a high-hood. Man, I love Schofield's location Tongue

Thinking about the fact I'm gonna be out of here in around 4-5 years, I think my original alyout plan is well, not so smart. so now I'm thinking about what I can do on my 4x8 w/ added staging at one end to fit in a smaller space and also retain as much of what I was orginally dreaming as possible (ie dbl. track main, ability to have trains running continuously, mountain scenery), and I think I can, but I'll have to plan it.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Friday, February 20, 2009 2:22 PM

TrainManTy

I highly doubt there are any locos from NS predecessors left on NS, except for possibly the old high-hood SD40-2s (are they still active?) and a couple others.

I think you'd be surprised how many original NW, SOU and a lot of other power from other railroads are left on NS, it's just that you don't see them on the mainline anymore:

http://www.nsdash9.com/roster.html

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, February 20, 2009 10:16 AM

 Guilford on the other hand...

There youngest loco is in the 30's, and the oldest is going on 60...

>_<

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 20, 2009 6:58 AM

Guilford Guy

ns3010

On all NS units, the heritage is painted under the number. For example, if a unit's original heritage was the Pennsy, below the number, it would say "PRR". A Southern heritage unit is labeled "SOU".

 

Are you sure?

I know the PRR was applied on equipment given to NS, and NYC applied to equipment given to CSX when Big Blue was divided. This year, all equipment built for those original roads would be 40 years old. This means all original equipment will need to be rebuilt to postpone their lives, and the locomotives at 40 years old would probably be sidelined.

 

Yeah, the PRR is for ex-Conrail units because otherwise the CR numbering scheme would clash with the NS scheme, and there would be multiples of one number. Same with NYC for CSX. It's interesting to see a NYC boxcar roll past in 2009!

I highly doubt there are any locos from NS predecessors left on NS, except for possibly the old high-hood SD40-2s (are they still active?) and a couple others.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:13 PM

ns3010

On all NS units, the heritage is painted under the number. For example, if a unit's original heritage was the Pennsy, below the number, it would say "PRR". A Southern heritage unit is labeled "SOU".

 

Are you sure?

I know the PRR was applied on equipment given to NS, and NYC applied to equipment given to CSX when Big Blue was divided. This year, all equipment built for those original roads would be 40 years old. This means all original equipment will need to be rebuilt to postpone their lives, and the locomotives at 40 years old would probably be sidelined.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:48 PM

On all NS units, the heritage is painted under the number. For example, if a unit's original heritage was the Pennsy, below the number, it would say "PRR". A Southern heritage unit is labeled "SOU".

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:43 PM

So Alex came over today... And we ripped up the entire Ogden Siding (formerly named the Stude-Dooley siding, most of New Poland, and I'm going to redo most of Dooley as well, unfortunetely elimanating the most photographed scene on the entire railroad... But it will be replaced by a street running section and hopefully I'll be able to make a new crossing scene to replace the old scene's place.

Right now the WRS looks somewhat like a rail trail... Except instead of walkers and bikers there are giant spray bottles, track nippers, needlenose pliers, and piles of old ballast and debris...

I'll keep you posted... 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:36 PM

WCfan

Packers#1

Speaking of which, I'm now planning to get a Southern Black Tux (I think that's what the scheme is called)

Usually the black SOU scheme is referred to as the Tuxedo scheme, but you where on the right track. I think the green scheme also has another name, but not many SOU locomotives where painted as this, besides the Steamers, F units, and I think some Geeps got the green scheme. Actually NS still has a "Southern" locomotive around. I think it's a GP60 in the green scheme, under the cab it still says "SOU" so technically it's still a southern locomotive.

 

yeah, they painted their pacifics, and eventually other locos, in Sylvan Green. I think they also gave some f-units the tux scheme, I know NS uses it for the paint on their f-units.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:27 PM

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:19 PM

Packers#1

Speaking of which, I'm now planning to get a Southern Black Tux (I think that's what the scheme is called)

Usually the black SOU scheme is referred to as the Tuxedo scheme, but you where on the right track. I think the green scheme also has another name, but not many SOU locomotives where painted as this, besides the Steamers, F units, and I think some Geeps got the green scheme. Actually NS still has a "Southern" locomotive around. I think it's a GP60 in the green scheme, under the cab it still says "SOU" so technically it's still a southern locomotive.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:52 PM

Packer

Sawyer, I've heard the N-scale LL trainset SD7-9s are pretty good. The part about SD40s reminds me I need to get A LOT of SD40s and SD40-2s. (I have zero, BN had over 800)

 

nice. I'm gonna stick with Atlas and Kato though; my C-Liner from Walthers is good, and I can probably get their SD9s cheaper, but I still love atlas products.

Speaking of which, I'm now planning to get a Southern Black Tux (I think that's what the scheme is called) SD35 High Hood and two NW SD9s when I get the money. Southern unit keeps its Black Tux paint, SD35s get painted into Spartanburg Western paint.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:28 PM

My boxcar was shipped a couple days ago. According to FedEx, it should be here on Saturday, but I'll be away.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:16 PM

Nice photos Vince! I should take some photos of my stuff at the club next time I'm there. Haven't done that with the new camera yet, so we'll see how it turns out.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:40 PM

Whoops, just realized that I forgot to post the link for the concrete ties at Kearny.

Vincent: That consist is looking good!

When I said I would be using Atlas flex-track, I really meant M-E Flex-track (with the weathered rails) and Atlas turnoutsOops. NJT trackage will have concrete ties and NS trackage (majority of layout) will have wood ties.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:06 AM

Here are some pics from last night: 

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:01 PM

Packer

Alex, you got a pic ofthe DRGW one? I've been trying to find a few of those (and a few closed)

No, no pictures, I actually have not built it yet! Shock Here is the picture on Accurail's website:

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/9200/9226.jpg

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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:34 PM

Alex, you got a pic ofthe DRGW one? I've been trying to find a few of those (and a few closed)

Jordan, hopefully I can get the pics. The Genesis F45 and Atlas U30C can haul almost as good. While I'm at it. I'll try to get my trio of GP30s in a shot. They all need some weathering though.

Sawyer, I've heard the N-scale LL trainset SD7-9s are pretty good. The part about SD40s reminds me I need to get A LOT of SD40s and SD40-2s. (I have zero, BN had over 800)

GG, I forgot about those 2. So I guess I have 5 total, and a GP35 (same prime mover). Guess I'm in the market for another sound-equipped one for another shell-swap.

Vincent

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:17 PM

Tyler: As you can see here, yes, NJT does use concrete ties on turnouts. These are at Kearny Junction, and I've seen them in other places also.

From looking in the refrence book, Atlas seems to be the best choice. They have track with both wood and concrete ties, and a wide selection of turnouts (I'll probably use #6s for the yard because it will be low speed).

Speaking of ties, NJT is going to replace ties on the Atlantic City Line, beginning in March. For some reason, they're putting in wood ties??? But they're starting to replace the rest of the system with concrete ties. When it comes to railroads, nothing makes sense. That's why Transit always reinvents the wheel...

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