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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, January 23, 2009 10:26 AM

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Jeffrey- IAC is Idle Air Control. Located on the throttle body, it controls the idle of your engine compensating for loads at idle. Most of the time you will only notice it not functioning when the car is at idle. Idle low, idle floats etc. You could also notice a stumble upon accelerating from an idle especially when the car is cold. Can easily be confused with the throttle position sensor in diagnosis. I forget what your problem was or what type of car you’re dealing with (Can’t find the post)but because Eric suggested the IAC I’m assuming it fits as a possibility. You will more than likely need a special tool that allows you to make the IAC work on demand to definitively determine whether the IAC is functioning. I recall you said the computer set a code. It could set off a different code based on what other functions it is causing to get improper readings. Maybe, maybe not. There are a few things you can check yourself to see if it works, maybe. With the engine running, turn on your air conditioner and listen to see if the idle picks up to compensate for the load. If it does not, turn the engine off. And remove the IAC. Turn the ignition switch to on, don’t start. The plunger should move. If it does not, check for power to the IAC. If you have power chances are the IAC is bad. If you don’t have power you’ll have to trace it back. I know this is rather vague with a lot of maybes and could be‘s, but I usually hesitate to diagnose something “over the phone” as quite frankly there are so many reasons a car can do something. Without standing there, you either over simplify the cause or try to go for the opposite. Usually sending someone off on a wild goose chase, spending a lot of time and sometimes money for nothing. Then if it isn’t what’s wrong I feel bad because of it. This is just a suggestion you can try without spending any money and not a whole lot of time if the symptoms fit. Or if you just run out of things to try. Good luck.Thumbs Up

Ah ha. I know what you're talking about now. Idle control is working fine. It's electronically controlled and is all housed within the throttle body. To replace part of it means to replace all of it. The only piece that comes out is the MAF sensor.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Friday, January 23, 2009 10:30 AM

 Sipping Tea Good morning, All.  Chloe, I will have coffee and a cinnamon roll, please.  I will sit in this back booth to see who shows up.

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Posted by howmus on Friday, January 23, 2009 10:51 AM

Mornin' everyone!

I'm trying to type with a 19 lb. cat being held in my other arm.  Blakie has been watching me type this....  There he decided that if I wasn't going to give him 100% of my attention, he would leave.

Since Jeffrey has the top of the page, I'll have what Jerry is having.  Zoe, make the coffee dark roast in a FGLK mug please.

Today is another one of those days where I can't get anything done because I am waiting for a phone call with information that I need to do something else and can't do the other stuff I need to do because I have to sit near the phone....... 

I be sitting in the front window booth watching the trains and waiting for a phone call. 

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Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, January 23, 2009 11:17 AM

Morning all

Just about time for lunch

I'm making a little progress on my Express Building scratch build

Here you can see i'm using a stain pen to stain the 2x4s before cutting and inserting them into the studded walls

i'm spacing them at 2 ft but back then i bet it would have been 16 inches on center

but 2 ft is close enough for these old eyes

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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, January 23, 2009 11:45 AM

It's been a crazy week.

Monday, off work for the holiday and spent most of the day in the train room. Started the lift out section that crosses the attic door and worked on the benchwork too. Will try to post some photos later..

Tuesday, snow day with 7+ inches of the white stuff, shut down most businesses, schools, etc. And heater breaks, temps went down to 6 F....burrrr....no heat for the downstairs, gas fireplace helps some.

Talked with my dad and he is doing well, tests results will return on Tuesday next week, then course of action will be decided. Thanks again for all your support.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up

Wednesday, go to work 2 hours late delay with black ice on the roads get home late to make up lost time from Tues. Pick up Monique from work and she locks herself out of the building, last one to leave, we call a co-worker to come back and let here in 30 minutes sitting out in the iced over parking lot. Good thing I was on my way to pick her up. Then we make it to our dance class just in time for 8:00 pm and pick up Ben from friends house after and finally get home for 9:30 pm.

HVAC repair men show up with Ben home in the morning for the 2nd snow day from school and find out  the blower fan froze up, but wrong part on truck. Have to order part and gets in for delivery Thurs PM. So repair on Friday now.  Day 2 with no heat....burrr....temps down to 21 F.

Thursday,  back to work for a regular day in at 8:00 am, and car pool with Monqiue but has to work late again, got home around 8:30 pm, long day. Day 3 with no heat...temps down to 32 F.

Today,  HVAC repair man here at the house, doing PM's on both units and replacing the blower moter. Working from home today with remote access to the EPA network with the VPN access.

Yeah, we should have some heat tonight....high today is upper 50's. Heater fixed just in time for the next heat wave...BlushSmileBanged Head....laugh, cry, bang head all at the same time. Multi-tasking....doing the laundry too...LOL

 

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I hate to say it Robby, but you could learn how to make that lasagna yourself.Dinner

Or learn to cook a few things and then you could  surprise the wife with a hot home cooked meal when she gets home from work !!!!Chef

Cooking is not that hard and really is not a mystery.Whistling

You CAN do it!

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Yeah, this stuff is not like rocket science, as Emeril says many times on his cooking show. I agree, cooking a meal for the wife earns brownie points big time!

Robby, I love the weathering you did on that backdrop structure. I have that one and need to attack it with some of that too! Oh and the ROCK covered car looks great.

Question ROBBY... When are you going to teach me how do rusting like you? Question

Der John, great videos you put together there, looks like Windows Movie Maker eh! And congrats on the Arts Society presentation. Thumbs Up

Did some one mention pie? 

Eric, great job with the laser kit house, when does it go up for sale and what is the asking $$? Smile Prayers and thoughts going your way too for your mom! Angel

Rob, what a cute pair of cats you have there on the padding! Looks like they get along too! And a Bengal too! Wow.

Blownout, must have been quite a scare to witness that crash, luck for him he survived.

TMarsh

Ryan- Thanks are not necessary, but you are more than welcome. I for one can hardly wait for the dinner menu, but I can wait. Don't rush it.

Todd, your patience is now rewarded with a menu today....see below...

JimRCGMO

Okay, Diners, we'll have to slow things down a bit, so Ryan can catch up. Otherwise, no more of his delectable menus, and we know how we love food around here, right??Smile,Wink, & Grin Ryan, I understand that Reader's Digest is working on a condensed version of the Diner, real soon now...Whistling

 

ROTFL Jim, you are too funny my man! You just about had me falling out of the chair...thanks I needed that! Laugh  Now..up to page 47 and only a few more to gooo...

Galaxy, that word list should be required as a major part for the complete manual reading material... Whistling

Sorry I did not reply to some folks, my Kliff Notes version of the Diner does a lot of skimming...

OK, so I'm up to Thursday AM and still playing catch em ups....with the Hemingway Diner writers guild...

Jeff, always enjoy your daily layout photo! Thumbs Up

Luke, thanks for putting up that menu while I been out!

Oh, and pie! Spiders and pie, my oh my!

This VPN remote access has kicked me out 3 times already this morning, at least my remote desktop is still up when I geat back in, but the latency right now is horrific....

Jerry et al, the New River Mining kit is great, one of Walther's best1

Well, $612.00 later and the two H/AC units PM's have been completed and the blower fan replaced and temps are about 50 outside now. HEAT again....yessssss 

Unca Roggie,  Palm Springs, I miss Palm Springs, visited there once and I hear it's warm there year round....

Ray, I love campfire cooking too. Campers Stew is fun, dutch oven cobblers, cardboard box oven baked biscuits, zip lock ice cream and tick dip!

Only three more pages to goooo....note to self  <<< pick up reading from page 55 >>>

Today’s Lunch and Dinner Specials

Starters

Chicken Poblano Tortilla Soup

Shrimp and Pasta Pesto Alfredo

Entrees

Pot Roast with Vegetables and Rice

Lamb Stuffed Cabbage Rolls with Roma Tomato Sauce

Mesquite Grilled Salmon with Lemon Dill Butter Sauce

Chicken Fajita Tacos

Sides

Sautéed Mushrooms                       Ratatouille

Twice Baked Potato                       Steamed Broccoli with Butter

Desserts

Assorted PIES

And for a pie making video, here is a short fruit pie making demo I did awhile back....

 Blueberry Strawberry Peach Pie Video Demo

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Posted by unca roggie on Friday, January 23, 2009 12:11 PM

Hmmmnnn....interesting: the wife and I just decided that tonight's fare would be alfredo/pesto sauce cradling some tortellini, festooned with shrimp and whatever else we can find to toss in (which I see above on the menu.)  Can't wait.  Meantime, its a cloudy day in Palm Springs (in Marlon Brando voice: "the horror....the horror.")

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, January 23, 2009 12:12 PM

New video added! Please check out 21R passing Lake Watchinson in Stop Animation!

Zoe, I'll take Ryan's Chicken Tacos, Please.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, January 23, 2009 12:27 PM

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Zoe, I'll take Ryan's Chicken Tacos, Please.

I don't think he would be very pleased with you if you take HIS tacos. How about she brings you some of your own.Laugh

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, January 23, 2009 12:31 PM

Haha, very funny. You know what I meant :P

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, January 23, 2009 1:27 PM

 Gotta have fun with ya sometime.

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Posted by TMarsh on Friday, January 23, 2009 1:59 PM

YEEE HAAAW!!!!! Thumbs UpMy Atlas Dash 8-40bw just came from the bay. $30.00. Runs good and smooth. They said it ran sluggish but it ran fine for me. I’ll probably take the shell off and check things out but I’m not looking for any problems. It probably just needs broken in? The handrails haven’t even been put on yet. First loco I’ve had with working ditch lights and lights that only work in the direction it‘s going! Yeah I know but for me it’s exciting.Big Smile

Jeffrey- After going back again….WAY back, we are a yackity bunch, I found your original post. As I feared I headed, as you now know, more than likely in the wrong direction.Oops Do you mean it idles rough or maybe not wants to at all? OK. Sounds like you know your way around the engine bay fairly well so I’ll spare the details. (I hope I didn’t insult your knowledge before). Check the EGR control solenoid if you haven’t already. Based on the computer code it sounds possibly like the computer is not getting a signal from the control solenoid, possibly.Question Warm up the car. Disconnect the hose at the EGR valve and put your finger over the hose to stop a vacuum leak if it is passing. See if it doesn’t idle better. If it does the solenoid is either bad or not connected. Again a lot of possibly’s thrown in there. But if that doesn’t fix or you’ve already tried it. I’d just be grasping for straws from here. Sorry. SadOh and I too love the photos.

Ryan- glad to have you back. So sorry about the furnace. They don’t seem to break at a convenient time do they. Sounds like you’ve had a very eventful last couple of days. Boy the menu sure looks good. I’ll definitely be back for supper. DinnerThe problem is WHAT TO CHOOSE!!!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, January 23, 2009 2:42 PM

TMarsh
Jeffrey- After going back again….WAY back, we are a yackity bunch, I found your original post. As I feared I headed, as you now know, more than likely in the wrong direction.Oops Do you mean it idles rough or maybe not wants to at all? OK. Sounds like you know your way around the engine bay fairly well so I’ll spare the details. (I hope I didn’t insult your knowledge before). Check the EGR control solenoid if you haven’t already. Based on the computer code it sounds possibly like the computer is not getting a signal from the control solenoid, possibly.Question Warm up the car. Disconnect the hose at the EGR valve and put your finger over the hose to stop a vacuum leak if it is passing. See if it doesn’t idle better. If it does the solenoid is either bad or not connected. Again a lot of possibly’s thrown in there. But if that doesn’t fix or you’ve already tried it. I’d just be grasping for straws from here. Sorry. SadOh and I too love the photos.

The EGR valve has no vacuum hose. It's electronic. It already been replaced and made no difference. The idle is perfect, nothing wrong there. The problem manifests itself upon acceleration.

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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, January 23, 2009 2:46 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

ns3010
Zoe, I'll take Ryan's Chicken Tacos, Please.

I don't think he would be very pleased with you if you take HIS tacos. How about she brings you some of your own.Laugh

 

I am a rollin' on the floor Jeff.... my belly hurts now...wooo hoooo...hehehehe...

 

Unca Roggie got the right idea! You could also add some broccoli and carrots and zukes to make it a Shrimp and Pasta Pesto Alfredo Primavera. OR add bacon bits and call it a carbonara....

 

Still catching up form page 55.... tootles...

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Posted by ewl01 on Friday, January 23, 2009 3:08 PM

Jeff, I shouldn't have thrown my 2 cents into the mix without asking info.  Poor way to diagnose a problem, jumping in without any info.  And , as as been said it's tough to diagnose over the phone as it were.  Sorry if I only added to the confusion.

Todd, thanks for filling the IAC details I was on the road most of the day.

ps The Drs. want to send Mom home for the time being.  Not much else can be done in the Hospital.  They said she would be better off at home for now.  After all the hospital is full of sick people, wouldn't want her to catch anything!  Her strength is better so we will see what is next.

Thanks for the well wishes

signing off for now. Eric

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Posted by TMarsh on Friday, January 23, 2009 3:16 PM

jeffrey-wimberly
The EGR valve has no vacuum hose. It's electronic.

 

Sign - OopsLaughI'm just a wealth of useful info aren't I ! Laugh I'm sorry Jeffrey, I'm not laughing at your problem. It's frustrating to put it mildly I know. I'm just tickled at how I contradict myself by saying one thing and doing another. Like I said If I don't what it is I'm talking about, Then I don't know what I'm talking about.Sigh Sorry I couldn't help you. Sounds like you've got just about as good a handle on it as anyone. When you figure it out it will probably be something as simple as a weak fuel pump or pressure regulator or possibly air pressure in the left rear tire. (just kidding) Happens to me more than I care to admit.Banged Head.  Good luck my friend.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, January 23, 2009 3:50 PM

  Eating Pizza Good afternoon ---Chloe, can I have 2 chicken enchiladas, some fries and a large chocolate milk please-----oh, and I'll top it off with some Strawberry--Rhubarb PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and coffee as well please.

I had a nice quiet day at work---nothing untoward happened---people behaved themselves and it got up to 2C today! But dull, dull, dull---

I'll be sitting by the window watching the switching going on-----Toy Train





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Posted by JimRCGMO on Friday, January 23, 2009 3:53 PM

Afternoon, Zoe - yep, busy morning today (from about 6 a.m., after my on-call night out till 1 a.m.). I'll have a RBF, please 'n' thankyouma"am!

Ray, are you just a teensey-weensey bit excited? Wink Have fun tonight with those!

Sawyer, not a problem on the pie (even if you got Ns Joe stirred up a bit - if I recall correctly, I think Mark's not wild about it, either (or another of our younger Diners...). Besides, PC will figure that as just more available for him, right PC? Big Smile

- and Terry, that Express building looks like it'd be fun to build. Have a ball with that. Yeah!! Is that pen one of those Floquil ones? I got the (track? don't recall now) a bit ago at Hobby Lobby. Looking good on your progress on the Express. Thumbs Up

Rob, good to hear about your SD24. Thumbs Up Nice that some things are going well for you, after the contractor games.Shock

Jeff - hope you get things on the vehicle figured out okay (and less expensively). You got my mouth watering with your telling about the beef tips dinner with your folks.Dinner

Ryan, it's just as well that you got your HVAC up and running - I've seen it happen that some days when it's medium-warm outside, it feels cooler inside (because it's warm enough to not kick in the heat?). Go figure, indeed! Confused Hmmm, I might just stick around for the Pot Roast, Veggies and Rice for dinner, actually.

Todd, none of my locos have ditch lights...should I be disappointed? Oh yeah, I guess that's because I model the 1950's era.Whistling

Our weather here in Cape G. today has been delightful! In the 50's (F) today - but watch out, tonight it drops about 20+ degrees and the high tomorrow will only be in the 30's (F).

Yesterday over lunch, I went by the LHS that's closing at the end of the month (30 percent off everything). I got 3 or 4 W-S cannisters (3 of ballast and 1 of Conifer stuff), a book on maintaining your trains (Kalmbach), some Evergreen plastic (sheet and some moulding shapes - I beam kind, hollow tubes for tanks or sanding tower parts, etc.). Wound up spending a bit more than I'd expected, but hey, at 30 percent off...Whistling

Barry, glad to see you saved me from the TOP honors this afternoon! Bow Hope your weather gets a bit better/warmer for you soon. How many days have you been below zero (C)?

I'll w**k on my RBF while I wait for my helping of the Pot Roast and Veggies.

 

Blessings and prayers,

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, January 23, 2009 4:00 PM

ewl01
Jeff, I shouldn't have thrown my 2 cents into the mix without asking info.  Poor way to diagnose a problem, jumping in without any info.  And , as as been said it's tough to diagnose over the phone as it were.  Sorry if I only added to the confusion.

TMarsh
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Keep trying. You may throw something out there that I haven't thought of yet.

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Posted by howmus on Friday, January 23, 2009 4:05 PM

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Ray, are you just a teensey-weensey bit excited? Wink Have fun tonight with those!

 

Spent a couple hours actually getting some things accomplished in the train room last night.  May get a bit of time later tonight.  My sister and I are going to go out for dinner.  She lives about 15 minutes from here (Can you tell I'm from upstate NY, we always measure distance by time.....).  Whistling

With that in mind, Zoe I'll have the king sized Prime Rib, medium rare, baked potato, yep with sour cream, and a house garden salad with crumbly blue cheese and Italian dressing.  And for desert the apple cobbler with a scoop of Vanila Ice Cream on top.

Jeffrey I hope you get that car figured out soon.  Pretty soon you will have almost a new car there.......  That must be frustrating not to be able to get it running right!

See you all later.  I'll be in the back table chowing down on that side of beef. 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, January 23, 2009 4:13 PM

 Well, my 4x8 is now officially history! Just have to go ahead and take it apart. I think I can make some space for a new layout in my bedroom. I just need something smaller in a climate contolled room.

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, January 23, 2009 4:23 PM

JimRCGMO
even if you got Ns Joe stirred up a bit

 

I was only kidding!

Sawyer, why is is history? Didn't you just start it?

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, January 23, 2009 5:31 PM

ns3010

Sawyer, why is is history? Didn't you just start it?

 

Yes, I just started it, but I've had a layout on this for, well, as long as I've had an n scale layout, and i'm ready to try something new. Also, the attic has too extreme temperatures. And since, when i move into my room, I'll most likely be creating an around-the-walls style layout, I don't want to have a bunch of work invested into my 4x8. I think I'll have a very slim, but very long, shelf layout in my bedroom for now.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, January 23, 2009 6:01 PM

A large coffee To Go, please & thanks.

Wow, so many posts since I was last in. 

After a quick scan, I see Jeffrey's new station is open for business.Thumbs Up 

Well, Inlaws are here for the night, so excuse me if I grab that coffee and head into my dungeon ("workshop") and find something to do. Perhaps I'll start gathering up some of the scrap lumber I'll be using for the shelf part of my layout. Will drop back in later.

Hope everyone is doing well.

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Posted by pcarrell on Friday, January 23, 2009 6:13 PM

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Besides, PC will figure that as just more available for him, right PC? Big Smile

You are a VERY perceptive man my friend!

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, January 23, 2009 6:42 PM

  Well, I got started on the bathroom reno, just in time for friends to show up.MischiefLaugh

Anyhooooo----the layout work will have to wait. I'll probably be done with reno in time for---wait for it-------------TA DA!!Monday---just in time for w**k and missing putting up WPF progress shots of my weathering and stuff---GGRRRRRR!!!!Disappointed 2

Can I get a refill of coffee, please? And a slice of Lemon MeringuePIE!!!!!please, Chloe.





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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, January 23, 2009 6:44 PM

 Well, just got done with dinner here, but I'll take a slice of

chocolate cake

with vanilla icing, of course.

So, how's Friday been ya'll?

Sawyer Berry

Clemson University c/o 2018

Building a protolanced industrial park layout

 

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    December 2008
  • From: Jersey Shore
  • 361 posts
Posted by ewl01 on Friday, January 23, 2009 6:46 PM

Let's see, it's 7:30pm.  I just came back from the hospital where my mother is.... Except, now my father is there too!  He has had respiritory issues for a while, well the Dr. at the rehab checked him out after I left this morning and decided there is fluid in the lungs. After seeing mom, checking in, writing to you people and going back to the house, I walk in and my sister says "Guess what happened to Dad".

It seems he has pneumonia........

Chloe, I think I'll have a nice rare rib-eye with mushrooms and onions some mashed taters, and choc. cake. Hey, can I bring a bottle of wine in?

Oh yeah, trains.... Um, Was it Terry with the scratch built?  Now that's art!

Thinking of n-scale to get something running while I make big plans for the HO.  I have a few n grain cars from a diorama I built a while back with the Walthers mill.  All I need is engine and some snap track.......

Eric

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    February 2008
  • From: Memphis, TN
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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, January 23, 2009 6:56 PM

 Ouch, that sucks Eric.

By the way, just you wait, N scale will hook you, and you'll forget about HO Big Smile

Sawyer Berry

Clemson University c/o 2018

Building a protolanced industrial park layout

 

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: North Jersey
  • 1,781 posts
Posted by ns3010 on Friday, January 23, 2009 7:07 PM

Eric, sorry about your parents. It never ends...

Sawyer, I think you're wrong. Today, I finally threw out the rest of the N stuff that I got two years ago from my uncle. Since I got it, it's been in boxes under my layout.Mischief

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, January 23, 2009 7:09 PM

***Eric, sorry to hear about your Dad's pneumonia. Perhaps it's a good thing he was seen when he was and it can now be promptly treated. Sending healing thoughts their way.

***Sawyer, if your eyesight is "youthful", then N is cool. These days, I'm beginning to wish I had been collecting HO all my life instead of N. But who knew I would ever have a "train room" to run something as hugely oversized as HO?Laugh

While I'm here, I'll have a large slice of that Chocolate Cake, please & thanks.

Cowboy Rob

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