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Posted by Driline on Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:39 AM

Wow. Great pictures by Dave Hikel & layout by Dr. Muff. I'm glad my post didn't directly follow his! Its all down hill from there Smile [:)]

 

 

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Posted by spectratone on Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:05 AM

I know you've seen this one before, I know this is cheating, but I thought I would share this doctored up picture anyway. I tired an effect from photoshop called "plastic". And of course I added the halo thing around the picture. I think it really made my backdrop pop!

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Posted by mononguy63 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:08 AM
 dave hikel wrote:
 

   
 

Yowsa! And here I was concerned that my new ping pong table would take up too much basement space!

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Posted by dave hikel on Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:40 PM

Hi again all,

It really was a wonderful treat to visit Dr. Muffs layout.  Thanks for the kind words about the photos.  I hope someday to get a chance to photograph the layout when there are fewer people.  There were a lot of neat views you just couldn't get because there were people in the frame and of course a tripod would have been nice.  I was one of maybe 30 to 40 guests who were all there at the same time.  I'd love to get a long exposure at ISO 200 and around f20 so you could really see the details looking down the freight docks and the yard.

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 dave hikel wrote:

Last week I had an opportunity to visit a very special HO layout in Sedro Woolley, WA (60 mi. N of Seattle).  The layout, built by Dr. Nicholas Muff, has been seen in MR and Mainline Modeler Magazine.  A few times each year Dr. Muff invites people to visit and see his progress.  I was very fortunate to be invited by a local railroad historian who has been visiting Dr. Muff's for several years.

Intending absolutely no disrespect toward Dr. Muff nor his pike but being unfamiliar with the layout, considering its level of detailing and its obviously incredibly expensive accessories (that F-unit nose and the car interiors!), I would ask if this is all Dr. Muff's own work, or perhaps largely that of a team of professional layout builders and contractors? Regardless, it is an amazing spectacle!

CNJ831

As far as I know it's all Dr.Muffs work.  This was my first visit and as I said there were a lot of people, but Dr. Muff was very generous with his time.  He showed me many of the masters for the resin molds that he has made to cast the KC station and other structures on the layout.  He has had the usual kind of help from friends, but it is essentially his work.  One friend turned the master for the columns on KC Union Station out of aluminum, but the Dr. added the base and other detail and made the mold.

One item that is still a work in progress is the lighted sign for the Western Auto building.  Here's a photo of the real build as it is today.

The Dr. told me of friends who helped by etching a brass base for the sign, but he is assembling the model and its 300+ SMT LED's.  Another friend built him a controler that will sequence the LED's just like the real thing.

I'm a professional builder myself.  I love to visit layouts to see and share ideas.  One thing I've come to realize is that you can pick up on certain short cuts that pro builders have to use to keep the cost down for their client.  I really didn't see any such short cuts on Dr. Muff's layout.  It's my understanding that this has been a labor of love for around 20 years.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:56 PM

Great photos people. Thumbs Up [tup]

even though i have one loco currently running, I'm hoping that soon I'll have my other three up and running and add two others, so I think I'll start a small loco terminal (if I can find my turntable lol Tongue [:P]).

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Posted by CNJ831 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:04 PM
 dave hikel wrote:

Intending absolutely no disrespect toward Dr. Muff nor his pike but being unfamiliar with the layout, considering its level of detailing and its obviously incredibly expensive accessories (that F-unit nose and the car interiors!), I would ask if this is all Dr. Muff's own work, or perhaps largely that of a team of professional layout builders and contractors? Regardless, it is an amazing spectacle!

CNJ831

As far as I know it's all Dr.Muffs work. 

Then truly it is an amazing piece of individual work!

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Posted by simon1966 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:07 PM

Some great images this weekend already. Lots of good inspiration.

 

Crandell, looks like you might need some track work repairs after that wreck?

 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:11 PM
Went ahead and decided to build it. no scenery yet, but hey, I just finished laying the track.

overview:

servicing (has GP30) and inbound parts (boxcar) tracks:

open-air storage tracks/shop tracks (basically, not gonna spend on a roundhouse)

There will hopefully be at least some ballast down by next weekend, maybe even tommorow. I also know what parts I need to order from atlas for my other three locos, just gotta wait for the money lol.

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Posted by perry1060 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:31 PM

"Hey Whisky Jack, if you change your name and your bad habbits, you probably won't see that third rail in the tracks. Now drive this train right, and watch out for that horse ahead!"

 

 

"Boy it's hot today. When I'm done working, I'm taking my boat to the river"

 

 

"Hey hobo Joe, you smell like you ain't had a shower in a year. Why don't you jump off this boxcar and head over to that waterfall for a dunk!!"

 

 

"Hey Judd, it's getting dark early these days. Looks like winter is on the way."

 

"Maybe Hank, but the bears ain't sleeping yet so we still have some time."

 

 

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Posted by selector on Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:15 PM

Hi, Simon.  Yes, and a locomotive, plus at least a tender side panel and stirrup?  We haven't talked to the engineman yet...he jumped at the last minuted, as did the fireman.   Smile [:)]

Nice downtown scene you have there.  Did you install the crossing signal recently, or did I forget you had that in place some time ago?  It all looks very realistic.

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Posted by C&O 2-6-6-6 on Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:27 PM
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What an Awsome shot.  I love the locomotive.

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Posted by Milwhiawatha on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:35 AM
Awsome pictures everyone. I dont have pictures but I am finally back to workin gon my SDL39 and GP30 which are going to be Milwaukee Units. The SDL39 is basically primed and the GP30 will be primed Later today like afet 12pm lol
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Posted by JulesB on Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:58 AM

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Jeffery. To bad you couldn't disguise the AC to look like a building. The outflow luvours (did I spell that right?) allmost resemble some sort of windows.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:14 AM
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Jeffery. To bad you couldn't disguise the AC to look like a building. The outflow luvours (did I spell that right?) allmost resemble some sort of windows.

The problem with disguising it is doing it in such a way as not to block the air intake, which is most of the front. It's only a couple of inches from the track.

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Posted by Driline on Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:23 AM
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 JulesB wrote:

Jeffery. To bad you couldn't disguise the AC to look like a building. The outflow luvours (did I spell that right?) allmost resemble some sort of windows.

The problem with disguising it is doing it in such a way as not to block the air intake, which is most of the front. It's only a couple of inches from the track.

Problem is everytime a train runs by the air conditioner it blows it off the track which requires an 0-5-0 to get it back on Tongue [:P]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:36 AM
 Driline wrote:
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
 JulesB wrote:

Jeffery. To bad you couldn't disguise the AC to look like a building. The outflow luvours (did I spell that right?) allmost resemble some sort of windows.

The problem with disguising it is doing it in such a way as not to block the air intake, which is most of the front. It's only a couple of inches from the track.

Problem is everytime a train runs by the air conditioner it blows it off the track which requires an 0-5-0 to get it back on Tongue [:P]

I don't have any problem with cars being blown off the track. All fast moving air is at the top of the unit.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:52 AM
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
 JulesB wrote:

Jeffery. To bad you couldn't disguise the AC to look like a building. The outflow luvours (did I spell that right?) allmost resemble some sort of windows.

The problem with disguising it is doing it in such a way as not to block the air intake, which is most of the front. It's only a couple of inches from the track.

Have you thought of removing the face plate, spray painting it the same color as the sky, including some clouds, and reinstalling it?

Bright colors tend to minimize your ability to see things behind them.  That's why cars have chrome or brightly painted grilles.  If you paint your car grille black, you can see the radiator.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:56 AM
I'll have to try that.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:24 AM

Photoshop or Painter, with the click of a mouse can produce nice image modifications like Glenn has posted.

Photoshop or Painter in the hands of an artist can produce what Jarrell has posted.

Jerrell:

I bet you could sell posters or even framed prints on E-Bay.

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Posted by gkhazzard on Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:55 AM
Or on Deviant Art. (www.deviantart.com) They have a sales engine built into the site for artists to sell prints of their work.
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:13 AM

This is an area I've been working on where most of the rail has been removed from an abandoned section of track.

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Posted by loathar on Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:51 PM
 mononguy63 wrote:
 dave hikel wrote:
 

   
 

Yowsa! And here I was concerned that my new ping pong table would take up too much basement space!

Jim

I think I remember Tracks Ahead doing a segment on that guy and his layout. How many guys can have an F unit in their basement??

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Posted by jon grant on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:59 PM

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Posted by tomkat-13 on Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:26 PM
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
 Driline wrote:
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
 JulesB wrote:

Jeffery. To bad you couldn't disguise the AC to look like a building. The outflow luvours (did I spell that right?) allmost resemble some sort of windows.

The problem with disguising it is doing it in such a way as not to block the air intake, which is most of the front. It's only a couple of inches from the track.

Problem is everytime a train runs by the air conditioner it blows it off the track which requires an 0-5-0 to get it back on Tongue [:P]

I don't have any problem with cars being blown off the track. All fast moving air is at the top of the unit.

 Jeff what I would do is make a removable backdrop that you could slide in when you took photographs & then remove when you need to run the air. It would make your photos look alot better & give you more angles to shoot from. A stiff section of foam-core board could be a good start, put in the sky ect.

 

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Posted by Driline on Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:33 PM
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This is an area I've been working on where most of the rail has been removed from an abandoned section of track.

I'm sorry, but WPF forum rules clearly state "Only one WPF submission per week". Please make a note of it.

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Posted by Hoople on Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:33 PM
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Wow, that's amazing, great job. Love the feeling of the massive engine- You can almost feel it thundering along.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:36 PM
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 Jeff what I would do is make a removable backdrop that you could slide in when you took photographs & then remove when you need to run the air. It would make your photos look alot better & give you more angles to shoot from. A stiff section of foam-core board could be a good start, put in the sky ect.

Two problems. The air runs 24/7/365 and it's a six and a half foot reach across the layout at that point. I'm thinking about building something of poster board reinforced with lathe strips that will cover the intake but leave the controls accessible. I can't put anything in front of the louvers because it'll just get blown away.

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Posted by spectratone on Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:06 PM

I think I,ve got the sky and clouds right on this portion of the backdrop. This picture is 3 pictures photostitched together. Thats why it 's running up hill. Next I'll start the mountains.

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Posted by Driline on Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:45 PM
 spectratone wrote:

I think I,ve got the sky and clouds right on this portion of the backdrop. This picture is 3 pictures photostitched together. Thats why it 's running up hill. Next I'll start the mountains.

Glenn

 

 

Impressive. What is the total cost to have this printed? And what's the final size of the backdrop photo?

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Posted by spectratone on Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:21 PM
 Driline wrote:
 spectratone wrote:

I think I,ve got the sky and clouds right on this portion of the backdrop. This picture is 3 pictures photostitched together. Thats why it 's running up hill. Next I'll start the mountains.

Glenn

 

 

Impressive. What is the total cost to have this printed? And what's the final size of the backdrop photo?

Printed?  Printed you say?? Thank you very much. I'll have you know I spent $14 dollars on supplys and 3 weeks learnin myself how to paint. Printed,   peesh.    why I otta............

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