Thanks, Margaritaman.
In all honesty, I've never had a need to spell the author's name or the "punnish" words: media, medium, message, and massage because I've always mentioned this concept in an oral conversation - frequently with folks who have never read McLuhan or seen his short movie.
Frankly, I'm delighted that you took the time to read my post - and MORE delighted that you know of what I speak...but cannot spell!! Cool. Very, very cool!
I lift a Cuervo to you, sir.
chicochip
Morpar wrote: I get really depressed when I look at my 401K fund. At this rate, I won't be able to retire EVER!
I get really depressed when I look at my 401K fund. At this rate, I won't be able to retire EVER!
If you still have some years of working, think how much more stock you can buy because their prices are "so" low now and can reap the gains when the stockmarket eventually rebounds. People lose money when they buy "high" and sell "low." If you believe stocks are low now, then it is a good time to buy. My recommendation is to buy stocks that have shown they can make a profit and pay a dividend, and are in a line of business that you believe will be viable in the future. (Pharmaceuticals meet the first two criteria but it is possible the government will regulate and tax that industry to collapse in the name of health care.) Food processing and alcoholic beverages will always be around.) Don't buy commercial bonds because interest rates are bound to go up, reducing the value of the bonds in the future.
Mark.
I feel the crunch. I'm on retirement and SS, and I've frozen the income from my stocks (WHAT income right now?). I'm probably better off than some because my house is paid for and living alone, I don't have that many expenses. And I'm still in demand as an accompanist at various Parishes around the town, so any income I get from those jobs I can kind of relegate to the MR fund (though less than I used to). And if I can possibly get to those jobs on Public Transportation here in Sacramento, the car is relegated to the driveway.
Like some others, my parents came up during the Depression, so I learned the value of a dollar at an early age. But I'm also a Creature of Habit. Just saw an ad for the new Sunset Z-6 Challengers again in the latest issue of MRC. I need a Z-6 like a hole in the head, but for some obscure and esoteric reason, I've decided that I'm going to have a Z-6 before I die, so right now I'm looking into the accrued interest on my Insurance Policy which I have never touched in my life, and wondering--Hm, should I or not? But then, the locos aren't going to be available until late '08. Hm, how many Masses can I play until then--can I dip into my son's Inheritance--Hell, my son makes more than I DO!
And right now I'm b###hing that I spent $14 on some Hydrocal that I can't use, because it sets up too darned fast in this hot, dry, California summer weather.
Wow And reading some of the posts, I'M complaining? Somebody shoot me.
Tom
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
loathar wrote: Packers1 wrote: MrKLUKE wrote: I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation. Jeff (MrKLUKE) Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.I love it! Words of wisdom from a 15 year old! Go get a job, move out of your parents house,try and support yourself, then lose your job and all you've worked for and see if you whistle the same smug tune there junior!
Packers1 wrote: MrKLUKE wrote: I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation. Jeff (MrKLUKE) Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.
MrKLUKE wrote: I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation. Jeff (MrKLUKE)
I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation.
Jeff (MrKLUKE)
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.
I love it! Words of wisdom from a 15 year old!
Go get a job, move out of your parents house,try and support yourself, then lose your job and all you've worked for and see if you whistle the same smug tune there junior!
Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this? Welcome to northeast Ohio, home of 21% unemployment and rampant crime. Ill just "suck it up" and it will all get better....
Wow.
Packers1 wrote:Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.
Packers, with all due respect, you don't have any clue what you're talking about.You live under Mommy and Daddy's roof where you get a warm bed and three squares a day.
For my spouse and I to make a living and sustain ourselves, we both have to work copius amounts of overtime just to have a little extra to make ends meet. Each night, I report for work at 8 PM (oops, thats in 35 minutes!) and most nights work a full twelve hours before the taxi arrives to deadhead back to the home terminal. That's about fourteen hours of work, each day. Now do that six days a week. Repeat fifty two times per year. I have 8-10 hours of "home life and a good majority of that is spent sleeping (albeit on the couch) while my spouse is at work. I see her for about three hours in the evening before I have to go to work.
Riding a bicycle to the gorcery store is not a viable option for us. We do our shopping once every two weeks and carrying 12-15 bags of groceries on a bicycle is only going to leave you with an absolute mess if you can make it home.
I drive a gas guzzling SUV. I'm paying $4.12 a gallon for gasoline right now. Yeah, it hurts the wallet but there are other solutions to reduce gas use. We plan our meals (and our shopping) and do everything in one big trip. This reduces those every other night trips to the super market to get one or two items.
The cost for me to heat my home this winter is going to break the bank for me. At 4.40 a gallon, I'm looking at over $1200 to fill the tank. That's $1200 dollars that doesn't touch my savings account, or that doesn't go towards groceries and other bills.
Need I bring up the high cost of healthcare? I've got a $2500 dollar deductible still, and it's halfway through the year. Any doctors visits, prescriptions, etc, all have to come out of my pocket.
Yes, we will get through it, and times may be (or get) tough(er), but all bad things do get better at some point. But you lack the life experience to be preaching about it. It sure must be tough trying to find the 35 cents for an extra milk with your school lunch...
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2-8-8-0 wrote:Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this?
Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this?
Thanks for the laugh...
I bet he still reads "Goodnight Moon"
GraniteRailroader wrote: 2-8-8-0 wrote: Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this? Thanks for the laugh...I bet he still reads "Goodnight Moon"
2-8-8-0 wrote: Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this?
Stayin out of this, gotta just stay out of this. BTW, have fun with all your worries. Least I ain't got that yet. Ha.
Sawyer Berry
Clemson University c/o 2018
Building a protolanced industrial park layout
Packers1 wrote: GraniteRailroader wrote: 2-8-8-0 wrote: Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this? Thanks for the laugh...I bet he still reads "Goodnight Moon" Stayin out of this, gotta just stay out of this. BTW, have fun with all your worries. Least I ain't got that yet. Ha.
And I can't wait till you do!
While my income is 50 percent of what it was 6 years ago (mostly because of retirement), I feel relatively better off because I've paid off my home's mortgage loan and my two son's college educations have been completed and paid for. It helps to be "house rich", meaning I have less house (half compared to the average in the area) than I could have afforded in my higher-income years. Of course, the layout room is a lot smaller than I want.
Mark
I'll bet on the "kid's" optomism and philosophy any day. If we dwell on all that's not just right, that's what we'll continue to get.
Has anyone read a best seller titled "The Power of Negative Thinking"? How about "The Eight Ways to Success Through Complaining"?
Packers, I admire your attitude!
chicochip wrote: I'll bet on the "kid's" optomism and philosophy any day. If we dwell on all that's not just right, that's what we'll continue to get.Has anyone read a best seller titled "The Power of Negative Thinking"? How about "The Eight Ways to Success Through Complaining"?Packers, I admire your attitude!chicochip
Thank you, chicochip. Also, did you know that laughter can actually help you heal? Oh, and BTW, no matter how high certain things get, God gave us legs and feet for a reason, ya know. And I'm sure the bike can help out here. Usually, after any kind of ordeal, you'll still be alive.
Packers. Check your e-mail.
chicochip wrote: Packers. Check your e-mail. chicochip
I did. Same to you. BTW loathar, I'm 13, not 15.
chicochip wrote:Has anyone read a best seller titled "The Power of Negative Thinking"? How about "The Eight Ways to Success Through Complaining"?chicochip
No, but their positive based brethern haven't done anything for business, or our economy either - other than generate legions of business people who receite the phrase "think outside of the box" as if it will actually happen, the more times they spit it out...
Like everyone, Packer is entitled to his opinion, but as he's not paying bills yet.....discrection in this cae may be the better part of valor, if you know what I mean.
My real concern this winter up here in the NE is heating oil. It's not the well off, or the really poor who are going to suffer (at least not as much, as there are programs to help them) but the folks just above that level for whom $4.60 a gallon heating oil is going to really, really hurt.
I'm already planning on how to pay for that myself.
There are some plusses. If this continues, we may finally see some real innovation in technology, especially in the alternative energy business, and automotive. I mean come on - I've been waiting for the Jetson's flying cars for better than 30 years, and we're still looking at a product design that hasn't really changed in a 100 years.
I'm trying to model 1956, not live in it.
Not only him, but some other "worldly experts"!! Will some one please kick their butts!!
Scarpia wrote: chicochip wrote: Has anyone read a best seller titled "The Power of Negative Thinking"? How about "The Eight Ways to Success Through Complaining"?chicochipNo, but their positive based brethern haven't done anything for business, or our economy either - other than generate legions of business people who receite the phrase "think outside of the box" as if it will actually happen, the more times they spit it out...Like everyone, Packer is entitled to his opinion, but as he's not paying bills yet.....discrection in this cae may be the better part of valor, if you know what I mean. My real concern this winter up here in the NE is heating oil. It's not the well off, or the really poor who are going to suffer (at least not as much, as there are programs to help them) but the folks just above that level for whom $4.60 a gallon heating oil is going to really, really hurt.I'm already planning on how to pay for that myself.There are some plusses. If this continues, we may finally see some real innovation in technology, especially in the alternative energy business, and automotive. I mean come on - I've been waiting for the Jetson's flying cars for better than 30 years, and we're still looking at a product design that hasn't really changed in a 100 years.
chicochip wrote: Has anyone read a best seller titled "The Power of Negative Thinking"? How about "The Eight Ways to Success Through Complaining"?chicochip
Yeah man, I'd love to see that.
One thing I know, the economy is being mirrored by my railroad. The Cedar Branch & Western is selling off surplus equipment to pay for upgrades and repairs (Ebay auction the extras, buy decoders). The railroad management (me) has elected to continue to use older rebuilt EMD products (Athearn BB) rather than expend the finances necessary to purchase new equipment. (I'm slobbering over the Atlas Gold C-420's)
Like the rest of us, the railroad is seeking ways to cut back. Working with fewer engines, rebuilding equipment in-house, finding ways to save energy (turning off extra lights and gadgets), and deferring maintenance all play a role on the model railroad.
By the way, it's nice to see that I'm not alone in my financial concerns. My wife is a full time student, so I'm holding things together with one full time and two part time jobs. Sometimes I feel that all I do is work...
Fortunately, I truly love what I do!
The Cedar Branch & Western--The Hillbilly Line!
I know that the economy is challenging right now. We have fear tactics and doom and gloom predictions everywhere. The doom and gloom is weighing on my mind and the economy in general. I do wonder if the constant series of bad news stories are true, are meant to 'sell the papers', or have some other sort of political agenda. There are problems in the economy but there is a lot of good news as well.
I believe that there are a few things that need to occur to stablize the economy but I am not sure that they will occur prior to the election. We need to produce traditional energy as quickly as we can. We need to drill everywhere we can to increase the domestic supply. Alternative fuels and conservation will not solve the problem today. In the long run, I believe that we will make the transition away from pertolem based fuels, but it cannot happen today.We need to investigate alternative fuels that actually work unlike corn grain ethanol. I want the US to end its dependence on petroleum fuels but I want to find a way that does not collapse our economy and our living standards.
The best thing that we could do right now is allow for domestic production, restore Treasury Regulation T which sets the minimum margin on commidities and other security investments, and make the tax cuts permanent. I know many people will disagree with me on the tax cuts but I have heard from many small and medium investors that they are holdng off on investments and projects until they see how the tax system works out. They are afraid to invest the money and create jobs because there business calculations may not work if the taxes rise substancially. They are also concerned about carbon trading and other programs that drastically increase the costs of doing business. The outcome of this trepadtion? Investments are not being made and jobs are not being created. A lot of this money is not sitting in the commidities market where it aids in ramping up commidities prices.
I know that the economy is troubling and that many of you are suffering. I would like to say that everything will be okay but I can't. I believe that many of the problems that we are facing today have been created by the government and cannot be resolved by expanded government power. We need freedom and liberty for the economy. This will allow business owners to grow and expand their investments and employ more workers. Government solutions from DC are one of the major problems we face right now. If you think that government can simply fix things, I would ask that you review the Great Depression. In this time business became afraid to invest and create jobs due to a constantly shifting series of government regulation. If you study the history, the rest of the world did not suffer anywhere near the difficulties that the United States did. The best solution will be freedom. We can inovate new solutions and create entire new industries that do not exist today.
The biggest problem in the economy right now is uncertainty. People are simply afriad to invest. They do not want to lose the money that they have out of fear that they may not be able to remake it. I know that we are all realing from the fuel costs. I paid $39.70 for a half a tank of gas on my Honda Accord. Two years ago that filled the Explorer. My wife and I have basically parked it because we cannot afford the gas. If we will free the markets, the economy will calm down and prices will moderate. A market that is out of balance will hurt everyone and it is in everyones interest to stabilize the economy. Please do not panic. I know that the times are hurting but things can and will get better.
ouengr wrote:We need to produce traditional energy as quickly as we can. We need to drill everywhere we can to increase the domestic supply. Alternative fuels and conservation will not solve the problem today.
We need to produce traditional energy as quickly as we can. We need to drill everywhere we can to increase the domestic supply. Alternative fuels and conservation will not solve the problem today.
Maybe I'm nuts, and you're on the ball - but didnt' the Saudi's just say that supply isn't a problem? That it's not a supply and demand issue, but a speculation, and weak dollar problem?
If that is the case, than drillin' aint' the issue. It's more about a few fat cats, getttin' fatter. Unlike the 1970's oil crisis, one factor that is definately different, is that the oil companies are reporting record breaking profits. And they get huge tax breaks. While some people in my neck of the woods, either get colder (and heat here is used from October until May, at least), or sacrifice elsewhere. That other sacrifice hurts the economy as a whole.
Well fellas and gals were all in this together.
I can remember when I could fill up my 16 gallon gas tank in67 Mustang fastback GT and buy a McDonalds hamburger, an order of fries and a coca-cola and have change leftover from a $5.00 bill! Fred and Barnie were popular back then too!! LOL!
Yabbbbba Dabbba Dooooo !!!!!
Give your local political representatives a" hint", everybody send them a DRILL BIT !!!
TheK4Kid
Scarpia wrote: ouengr wrote:We need to produce traditional energy as quickly as we can. We need to drill everywhere we can to increase the domestic supply. Alternative fuels and conservation will not solve the problem today.Maybe I'm nuts, and you're on the ball - but didnt' the Saudi's just say that supply isn't a problem? That it's not a supply and demand issue, but a speculation, and weak dollar problem?If that is the case, than drillin' aint' the issue. It's more about a few fat cats, getttin' fatter. Unlike the 1970's oil crisis, one factor that is definately different, is that the oil companies are reporting record breaking profits. And they get huge tax breaks. While some people in my neck of the woods, either get colder (and heat here is used from October until May, at least), or sacrifice elsewhere. That other sacrifice hurts the economy as a whole. Yes it's all about a word called "GREED" and FAT CAT speculators
Yes it's all about a word called "GREED" and FAT CAT speculators
TheK4Kid wrote:Yes it's all about a word called "GREED" and FAT CAT speculators
Scarpia- check your PM.
To keep this train related. North Platte loco facility pumps 100,000 gallons of diesel/day. Even if the oil companies only make a nickle/gallon profit, that's $1.5 million PROFIT per year just off one loco facility! Multiply that by how ever many such fuel depots exist in this country alone. This assumes that the 5 cent/gallon profit figure is the truth. They used to make 12 cents/gallon profit back in the 80's when gas was around $1/gallon...
Now think about all the truck depots and airports. We're talking some serious coin here.
You are correct, it's the speculators who are getting fat.
My opinion is that oil speculation needs regulated or a limit set on it.I drive a semi for a living and Wednesdaay I left for Milwaukeee from Ft Wayne IndianaI returned from Milwaukee on Thursday.Anyway, during the entire trip I saw only 3 RV's , one large RV coach on I94 , one smaller one on US 300 and one setting at a fuel pump at a truckstop in Indiana on my return home. A total of 3.And it is June, and I can remember in my 30 plus years of over the road when I saw them by the hundreds.Rather interesting that they are disappearing so quckly from America's highways.On the north side of Chicago I passed a huge RV dealer, and thinking to myself, Iwouldn't want to be setting on all that inventory right now.
I wish I would have had some time to go look up Kalmbach and MRR 's facilities.
I really don't even know if I was close to them.
I was over on 68th street just off of National Avenue on Wednesday and was just off 43rd strret and Old Green Tree , I think it was greeen tree or something like that.
If anyone is planning a trip up that way, may I please advise all that I94 is under construction in Illinois from the Wisconsin state line all the way to Chicago, and it's very slow going!
Take a train!!!
"With the election of President Bill Clinton in 1992, and the appointment of Hazel O'Leary as the Secretary of Energy, there was pressure from the top to cancel the IFR. Sen. John Kerry (D, MA) and O'Leary led the opposition to the reactor, arguing that it would be a threat to non-proliferation efforts, and that it was a continuation of the Clinch River Breeder Reactor Project that had been canceled by Congress. Despite support for the reactor by then-Rep. Richard Durbin (D, IL) and U.S. Senators Carol Mosley Braun (D, IL) and Paul Simon (D, IL), funding for the reactor was slashed, and it was ultimately canceled in 1994."
Well, according to Wikipedia, it appears that a certain political party has been hostile to this form of alternative energy and, from my point of view, that party is embarassed by our high standard of living.
Make your own presumptions. Do you want to be a dependent, or be responsible?
Mark, and yes, I am quite a bit off topic
markpierce wrote:"With the election of President Bill Clinton in 1992, and the appointment of Hazel O'Leary as the Secretary of Energy, there was pressure from the top to cancel the IFR. Sen. John Kerry (D, MA) and O'Leary led the opposition to the reactor, arguing that it would be a threat to non-proliferation efforts, and that it was a continuation of the Clinch River Breeder Reactor Project that had been canceled by Congress. Despite support for the reactor by then-Rep. Richard Durbin (D, IL) and U.S. Senators Carol Mosley Braun (D, IL) and Paul Simon (D, IL), funding for the reactor was slashed, and it was ultimately canceled in 1994."Well, according to Wikipedia, it appears that a certain political party has been hostile to this form of alternative energy and, from my point of view, that party is embarassed by our high standard of living.Make your own presumptions. Do you want to be a dependent, or be responsible?Mark, and yes, I am quite a bit off topic
TheK4Kid wrote: You are correct, it's the speculators who are getting fat.My opinion is that oil speculation needs regulated or a limit set on it.I drive a semi for a living and Wednesdaay I left for Milwaukeee from Ft Wayne IndianaI returned from Milwaukee on Thursday.Anyway, during the entire trip I saw only 3 RV's , one large RV coach on I94 , one smaller one on US 300 and one setting at a fuel pump at a truckstop in Indiana on my return home. A total of 3.And it is June, and I can remember in my 30 plus years of over the road when I saw them by the hundreds.Rather interesting that they are disappearing so quckly from America's highways.On the north side of Chicago I passed a huge RV dealer, and thinking to myself, Iwouldn't want to be setting on all that inventory right now.I wish I would have had some time to go look up Kalmbach and MRR 's facilities.I really don't even know if I was close to them.I was over on 68th street just off of National Avenue on Wednesday and was just off 43rd strret and Old Green Tree , I think it was greeen tree or something like that. If anyone is planning a trip up that way, may I please advise all that I94 is under construction in Illinois from the Wisconsin state line all the way to Chicago, and it's very slow going! Take a train!!! TheK4Kid
I've noticed a drastic decrease in people pulling trailers (which I associate with the middle class) versus "super buses" pulling automobiles (which I associate with the upper middle class, but not super-rich, with their yachts and planes). Obviously, this has been a function of the high cost of fuel. Of course, a few hundred dollars increase for a fill-up for these large vehicles doesn't have a significant affect on very-high-income earners/recipients. Regardless, I don't resent this fact. I say, let's all work harder and smarter and hope that government policies will not keep us from achieving our goals in an ethical manner.
markpierce wrote: "With the election of President Bill Clinton in 1992, and the appointment of Hazel O'Leary as the Secretary of Energy, there was pressure from the top to cancel the IFR. Sen. John Kerry (D, MA) and O'Leary led the opposition to the reactor, arguing that it would be a threat to non-proliferation efforts, and that it was a continuation of the Clinch River Breeder Reactor Project that had been canceled by Congress. Despite support for the reactor by then-Rep. Richard Durbin (D, IL) and U.S. Senators Carol Mosley Braun (D, IL) and Paul Simon (D, IL), funding for the reactor was slashed, and it was ultimately canceled in 1994."Well, according to Wikipedia, it appears that a certain political party has been hostile to this form of alternative energy and, from my point of view, that party is embarassed by our high standard of living.Make your own presumptions. Do you want to be a dependent, or be responsible?Mark, and yes, I am quite a bit off topic
Correct me if I'm wrong, (and I might be...) but weren't the Republicans controlling the House and Senate at that time? I wasn't too "up" on politics back then.
(oh, yeah... How bout them trains!!)