Don Gibson wrote: 'll think about Dominos, but frankly I don't see the advantage. (1) Ease of Reconfiguring. (2) Making in the Garage and carrying to basement, assembling, moving in and out of doorways, hallways, etc. (3 Reusability.
'll think about Dominos, but frankly I don't see the advantage.
(1) Ease of Reconfiguring. (2) Making in the Garage and carrying to basement, assembling, moving in and out of doorways, hallways, etc. (3 Reusability.
That's what I thought you meant. I have a little different take on benchwork than most here. I'm of the construction worker mindset of 'get'r'done." I plan on using ripped plywood stapled together with a nail gun. I'll frame the basement benchwork in a day, it will be perfectly level and if and when I tear it down, I'll strip the nails and all the pieces will be reusable. I won't try to talk other's into my method, I was just at construction so long I know what can be done without thinking about it.
For me, the benchwork in one basement won't fit the basement in another so, I'll just think of saving the structures and the trees. I figure to have a lot of time in building 3 foot redwoods. And moving does concern me. I've lived in this house for 6 years. It's longer than either of us, me or my wife, have live in one location ever.
Istead of a 4'X8' thnk of 4 2'x4' stand-alone tables, connected. Walk along operation. Hand throws. Accessability.
I don't think about 2 x4 or 4 x 8. For me "form fits function"--all benchwork fits the situation. Walk along, check. Hand throws, check. I've got a turtle in the box I got two years ago. Never had a call to use it. I may if I can't reach one. Accessibility, double check. It's why I rejected both my previous layout designs. They looked good on top, but had accessibility problems.
Narrow Gauge suppliers offer more early 'logging' type engines.
This turns my crank a lot. I always drool that all the engines that I want, seem to be made by Bachmann for On30.
Higher initial costs will focus your efforts. Larger figures I can't help you with - except they're much easier to paint."Less is more" - L. Mies Vanderohe.
"Less is more" - L. Mies Vanderohe.
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
ereimer wrote: 1) if the prototype you like is standard guage stick with HO . On30 is very tempting , but it's a different animal from what you really wanted to do
1) if the prototype you like is standard guage stick with HO . On30 is very tempting , but it's a different animal from what you really wanted to do
This is my take. Plus I kinda sort know what I have to do to get my fleet. The workhorse of the California Western is a 2-6-2 Side Tank. So far my best option seems to be the Mantua 2-6-2 Kit that I bash the side tanks onto. The Bachman 0-6-0T just isn't right and the MDC 0-6-0 has a rounded tank. Although the NWP had a couple. The NWP used a lot of 4-6-0's.
2) if the California Western is going in the basement , what's going to the garage , the semi modern eastern urban layout ?i'm assuming you still want to build both
i'm assuming you still want to build both
I do want to build both, but I fear the PRR will meet it's demise during the course of one of the phases of building the basement. My wife gets half the garage for her paintings. I get the other half for my woodworking tools.
Narrow Gauge suppliers offer more early 'logging' type engines. Higher initial costs will focus your efforts. Larger figures I can't help you with - except they're much easier to paint.
2) if the California Western is going in the basement , what's going to the garage , the semi modern eastern urban layout ?
ernie
Don Gibson wrote: 'N' Gauge? NO, no, no! Athousand times no.Too many options for someone with multiple talents and interests.Tke a lesson from David Barrow: 4' 'Dominos', Valance lighting, Fascia, Wieless operation.
'N' Gauge? NO, no, no! Athousand times no.
Too many options for someone with multiple talents and interests.
Tke a lesson from David Barrow: 4' 'Dominos', Valance lighting, Fascia, Wieless operation.
I'll think about Dominos, but frankly I don't see the advantage. Facia Always. Wireless likely.
Valence Lighting--Like track lighting.
But the main thing is that three of you have brought up On30. I had not considered it, but I had/have some my pre-concevied notions about N-scale, so I should listen.
My preconceived notions.
On30 layouts tend to be mostly fantasy.O scale figures look horible to me--don't know why. I can probably fix them with work.They have more of the smaller steam I like to model.
Real Downside. The logging roads--California Redwoods--tended towards standard guage. My favorite and the one I have researched the most, the California Western was Standard Guage. There were exceptions I admit, but mostly below the redwoods and up near Eureka.
Where am I wrong?
SpaceMouse wrote: I've had an idea for a while. My job now is to try to focus on what it is I really want and stop splitting my attention.
I've had an idea for a while. My job now is to try to focus on what it is I really want and stop splitting my attention.
LOL!!!!! thats my whole problem!! good luck, looking forward to seeing a track plan!
Joe
Modeling:
Providence & Worcester Railroad
"East Providence Secondary"
HO scale
Don,
Decorate? Decorating is having multiple paintings on my walls in office. We are talking, a filing system with vertical slots three tiers high
wm3798 wrote: Just think of what you can accomplish in N scale now!
Just think of what you can accomplish in N scale now!
Actually I was thinking that now I could design an N-scale type layout using HO...all the advantages of both. Kinda like a WM contest entry--but with less track.
Sheetrock the garage interior. Paintings can decorate floor to ceiling.
Basement will be for junk storage if you don't claim it first.(Don't leave any room).
May I suggest 'Domino' modules and narrow aisles. Sell your HO, and go On3. You'll settle on one or two engines and due to costs, will concentrate on trackwork.
I'm thiinking how you 'acquired' your ' handle'.
'Nuff said.
JBSteamer wrote: Do I smell another layout contest coming? We'd have some fun with that one.
Okay here's the new contest.
Use any room is 23 x 26.
On the west wall (26') just to the south of center is a staircase going up. Then further south is the washer and dryer and sink.
On the south wall there is a power service box 2 feet from the east wall.
On the North wall is a door to the garage a furnace and water heater.
The East wall jogs 2 feet in 9' from the south wall.
It can be any era, location, roadname and theme as long as it's a prototypical logging operation between Willits and Fort Bragg California running the California Western and Northwestern Pacific Railroads in 1917.
Any questions?
These will be due in two weeks.
I hope you didn't kill anyone I knew to get it.....
tomikawaTT wrote: Think BIG!!! What could you do with an expanded Angry Beaver?
Think BIG!!! What could you do with an expanded Angry Beaver?
Thanks Chuck, Now there's an image I won't be losing anytime soon.
I think I'm going to have to hire myself to get rid of my nightmares.
mammay76 wrote:Congrats SpaceMouse, it's a great feeling when you get somthing you've been wanting for a long time!! overwhelmed yet with ideas??
MisterBeasley wrote: gandydancer19 wrote:You do realize that this is an oportunity to provide heating and cooling in your new layout space don't you? Just make some storage slots under the layout for your wife's paintings.I was thinking the same thing. If the under-layout space can hold the paintings, then you can use the garage for something unique, like maybe cars and stuff.
gandydancer19 wrote:You do realize that this is an oportunity to provide heating and cooling in your new layout space don't you? Just make some storage slots under the layout for your wife's paintings.
I was thinking the same thing. If the under-layout space can hold the paintings, then you can use the garage for something unique, like maybe cars and stuff.
It is obvious you need more data. My wife has a certain amount of storage for paintings already. I have to provide storage for those. 3-4 times a year my wife has shows at galleries/museums etc.. Sometimes she brings back more paintings than she sells.
So she paints better ones for her next show. The old ones are not good enough to show again, so they have to be stored. I have paintings from the mid-70's in storage. Roughly figure that my storage collection will grow by 10-paintings a year. Every spot under the layout will be alloted for future painting storage. The garage may delay the inevitable, but if I can get the benchwork in before I'm over run--possession is 9 /10 of the battle.
FYI:Her Website
SpaceMouse wrote: lvanhen wrote: Good luck - now you have to redesign everything all over - or have you been planning this takeover for a while!!Today the basement, tomorrow the world.
lvanhen wrote: Good luck - now you have to redesign everything all over - or have you been planning this takeover for a while!!
Today the basement, tomorrow the world.
Wrong mouse! Thats Brain, from Pinky & the Brain! So who's Pinky? (Careful how you answer this one! It's a loaded question!)
MisterBeasley wrote:....then you can use the garage for something unique, like maybe cars and stuff.
What a concept!
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
Elmer.
The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.
(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.
Go here for my rail shots! http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?userid=9296
Building the CPR Kootenay division in N scale, blog here: http://kootenaymodelrailway.wordpress.com/
Chip,
This will surely get you to rethink your world. We will enjoy your journey.
Sue
PS. Are you still doing the cowboy action shooting when you are not working on the railroad?
Anything is possible if you do not know what you are talking about.
tomikawaTT wrote:Think BIG!!! What could you do with an expanded Angry Beaver?
Nope, won't even TOUCH that straight line!
Lee
Route of the Alpha Jets www.wmrywesternlines.net
Congratulations Chip
I hope you keep it logging themed , you could model the Westside !!
"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein
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wm3798 wrote: Does this mean you can change your handle to Space Whale?
Does this mean you can change your handle to Space Whale?
Nah. Space elephant
Elephant - a mouse built to government specifications.
Just think of what you can accomplish in N scale now!Lee
All joking aside, congratulations! Looking forward to the new, improved layout plan.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Hey, yeah, now Chip can do the entire Sierra Nevada mountain range, complete with all of the trains, circa 1888!