David,
We'll have to agree to disagree. I find that the message boards with no humorous content at all on them to be, quite frankly, boring. That's not to say that I don't enjoy the modeling content as well, or enjoy contributing to it. My modeling might not be up to your standards, but that's okay.
And if you'll notice, not once did I say anything about the ebay seller, only the ITEM. I actually think that sellers who are trying to thin out their collections (whatever I might personally think about the particular item) are quite smart. It's a lot easier to get rid of unneeded items that way than it is to lug them to a train show these days (and there's usually more profit in it too, once you figure in hotel rooms, gas, food, and table costs).
So, on that note, I respectfully request an end to this discussion, before it does get out of hand.
Robert Beaty
The Laughing Hippie
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davidmbedard wrote: I understand the point your making about accepting criticisism<sp?>, and I agree, sort of. If the post in question had criticized the SUBJECT of the OP, and not the post itself, I would agree completely. But the post in question critisized the POSTING of the thread, not it's content. That is why I suggested contacting a moderator or Kalmbach directly.Actually, he did criticize the subject of the OP. And I have to agree with him. There are too many laugh-at-the-Ebay-seller threads. They do nothing to promote the hobby and only inspire others to laugh or mock people in the MR community.What if the seller is a member of this forum? How is that any different from mocking him directly here? If this is ok with you, then we are opening up a WHOLE can of worms.David B
I understand the point your making about accepting criticisism<sp?>, and I agree, sort of. If the post in question had criticized the SUBJECT of the OP, and not the post itself, I would agree completely. But the post in question critisized the POSTING of the thread, not it's content. That is why I suggested contacting a moderator or Kalmbach directly.
Actually, he did criticize the subject of the OP. And I have to agree with him.
There are too many laugh-at-the-Ebay-seller threads. They do nothing to promote the hobby and only inspire others to laugh or mock people in the MR community.
What if the seller is a member of this forum? How is that any different from mocking him directly here? If this is ok with you, then we are opening up a WHOLE can of worms.
David B
The post that I replied to was his second, his RANT about how that type of post should not be on these forums.
Several people WERE inspired, infact, a few were interested in bidding.
We ARE the MR community, and the MOCKING was directed at an Ebay seller, whom has a zero feedback, has been a member for 2 years with NO sales, and from the look of the OTHER items they are selling, is NOT a MR'r.
Whether or not the seller is a member here or not is irrelavant, SHE did not post the thread. I didn't see anyone MOCK the seller anyway, only the Auction.
At Arjay's request, discussion over, on my end.
Varnet wrote: I personally enjoy the eBay threads, but that is just me :)I have never understood why people read threads that they know don't interest them, and understand even less why they take the time to post in them. It seems very odd to me. I did a quick unscientific survey of the first 5 pages of threads in this particular forum of the board, roughly 100 threads, and only 3 were about eBay. Even if I missed a one or two, that's only 4 or 5% of the most recent threads. And if we extrapolate that out, one eBay thread per page, and there's 1,659 pages in this forum, with a total thread count of 41,466, we end up with only 4% of threads here. Hardly an unavoidable topic of discussion, especially since most of the eBay threads have descriptive titles.
I personally enjoy the eBay threads, but that is just me :)
I have never understood why people read threads that they know don't interest them, and understand even less why they take the time to post in them. It seems very odd to me.
I did a quick unscientific survey of the first 5 pages of threads in this particular forum of the board, roughly 100 threads, and only 3 were about eBay. Even if I missed a one or two, that's only 4 or 5% of the most recent threads. And if we extrapolate that out, one eBay thread per page, and there's 1,659 pages in this forum, with a total thread count of 41,466, we end up with only 4% of threads here.
Hardly an unavoidable topic of discussion, especially since most of the eBay threads have descriptive titles.
Simple answer......some people NEED something to grouse about. Prices,lack of this, too much of that, other peoples work\lack of skill\too much skill\non prototypical this and that and a whole jumble of other stuff. Best just to ignore them.
I think it's great the seller is trying to unload that pass. car. Looks like it came from a house fire or junior has been in the matches again!....remember the grilled cheez that looked like Jesus or the pope or something that sold? Probably someone out there will buy a scorched pass. car.
If it is a violation of forum policy to inspire someone to obtain an item up for auction on ebay SPECIFIC ITEM FOR SALE would it not also be a violation for anyone here to inspire someone to purchase a specific item thru a LHS or other point of sale by us recommending it. Example, if someone posts a thread about atlas turnouts and receives replys saying that another specified manufacturer has supplied what has been a higher quality/more reliable product (at least in the opinion of the one making the reply) and the OP (or other person reading) is inspired to buy it, what is the difference? IMO if a item for sale on ebay that is discussed here is against policy then any mention of ANY MANUFACTURER should follow the same guidelines. It may inspire someone to make a informed (not saying an accurrately informed) decision.
I for one do not mind these threads as it helps make me aware of possible pitfalls should I ever start buying items from ebay OR from anyone for that matter.
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I understand that it is against forum policy to promote items that bring personal gain, but even if the OP's intent was to inspire someone to bid or even veiw it IF the OP does not profit from doing so, what is the issue?
I really like this forum and to me it's saddening when we start harpooning and blow torching each other.
I'm always looking for tips, ideas, photos, and generally helpful info. But what's wrong with this thread? It is "train related", and imho it's comical.
I looked at it, laughed a little and was about to move on............. when I started reading the flaming responses. Why have them when it's so much easier to just move on and let the thread eventually drift to the back pages?
Can it be inspirational? Well, how many of us have actually thought of modeling a wrecked passenger car? Add to that, most of us here can likely do a much more realistic and better job than what's on that photo.
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I pay no attention to most threads as they have no apparent interest to me. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be posted or that they couldn't be of interest to others. I "cherry-pick" about 15-20%. My wish is that people starting threads would put more accurate descriptions in the titles so we won't waste time looking at those that aren't of interest or overlook those that might. For instance, there is a big difference between a title "look at this" compared to "here is photo of prototypical searchlight car."
Mark
AntonioFP45 wrote: I really like this forum and to me it's saddening when we start harpooning and blow torching each other. I'm always looking for tips, ideas, photos, and generally helpful info. But what's wrong with this thread? It is "train related", and imho it's comical. I looked at it, laughed a little and was about to move on............. when I started reading the flaming responses. Why have them when it's so much easier to just move on and let the thread eventually drift to the back pages? Can it be inspirational? Well, how many of us have actually thought of modeling a wrecked passenger car? Add to that, most of us here can likely do a much more realistic and better job than what's on that photo.
I'm with you on the point of when threads become a "alpha male/person/poster" pedestal then it becomes an arguement and not a discussion, BUT I will say that with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS the forum has been more civil/friendly/and IMFORMATIVE for the past week or so. On that note I'll say good job to all for thinking it thru before typing!
I find it interesting that a subject like this gets soo many responses, when some of the other subjects.....like a newby looking for information or someone to answer a question for them.....gets low responces (in some cases)
Perfect example..........lets post a question on what is the best DCC system (from a newby inquiering)........how many answers will be negative about "Yet another stupid question about the best DCC system" instead of explaining how to use the search feature? Or giving a postive answer to someone who made need a quiding hand from a seasoned Model railroader?
I read the subject line of everything on this web page...if it doesn't interest me, I DON'T READ IT...