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Posted by WCfan on Friday, August 1, 2008 3:54 PM

 TrainManTy wrote:
I love those flared-radiator GP40Ps! I got really good video of one of those throttling up...yay turbo-charged EMDs! That was one of the only times I remember being aware of the engine noise other than just...noise. You can hear it at 8:10 in the video posted above.

Shock [:O] You should hang around SD40-2s and listen more often. The SD40-2s have a nice rumble, but a SD45, much deeper. Should check out this video, has to be the best SD40-2 sound I have heard. Went from notch 1-notch 8 in a flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wO1xxAt9gc

BTW: Sawyer, layout looks good.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Friday, August 1, 2008 3:42 PM

The sound is amazing Ty! Wow, can't wait till they get here!

That will be in December, and they might not be on the road yet at that time.

They'll need paint and FRENCH lettering everywhere!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:33 PM

Hey GG, here's an SD40-2 w/ a scheme sorta like that new england Shortline:

[image posted w/ permission of author (7/18/08) and MR forum]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:12 PM
I love those flared-radiator GP40Ps! I got really good video of one of those throttling up...yay turbo-charged EMDs! That was one of the only times I remember being aware of the engine noise other than just...noise. You can hear it at 8:10 in the video posted above.
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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:11 PM

Here's what I've been up to the past few weeks:

roundy-rounder moutain layout:

The mountains are made w/ pink foam, blue foam, and styrofoam glued together w/ hot glue. The foam will be covered w/ plaster cloth.

And here's the prototype of my the yard I'll be putting in on my big layout:

Since this will only be servicing 2 locomotives on my next layout, I moved locomotive servicing to the other end of the A/D track and put it on one long track (an H-15-44 and a medium road switcher can't use a whole lot of fuel, right?). The gP30 is parked in what was locomotive servicing. I've almost finished ballasting, and still have to wire it (atlas terminal rail joiners).

And right now I'm bidding on a GP35 on ebay. if I lose it (and I'm not opursuing it that hard), I'll get some plaster cloth and terminal rail joiners for my current layouts.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:04 PM

Yep!

After a re-review of the document, we might get both kinds of GP40FH-2's:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=244563&nseq=2

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=241653&nseq=22

    There is only 4 active cowl units left, kinda interesting!

And the F40PH-2CAT's:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=222114&nseq=8

And the rebuild MU's, the Arrow's:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=237874&nseq=0

These things are in storage somewhere, and have not seen service as commuter cars yet. I don't know if they were earlier versions or not, but apparently, they were in service for 10 years before they crapped out and were rebuilt into coaches.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 1, 2008 9:22 AM

The cowl units? You mean like the first unit in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1QAsujp380
That one's owned by Metro-North (another commuter railroad serving mostly North of NYC) but I'm pretty sure NJT has some too.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 PM
GG, I'll have to try that out. thanks.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:35 PM

I'm gone for 2 days and it turns to this?!

Ugh, I've been on trains 13.5 hours out of the past 48 hours...

Sawyer, a shortline nearby has covered the grills and above black. If you were to make the top half of the unit blue like so... 

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=200708261622137621.jpg That may look good in blue on your loco...

I got a package from walthers today... need to run to the hardware store tomorrow and pick up some alcohol... The primer was a little thick, and I want the best for the unit Tongue [:P]

Still waiting on the dull-cote and plastic putty to arrive via standard mail.

Good luck on the SDL39 Jordan, as for the GP50, I'm too tired to think in depth on a kitbash.

zzz

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:49 PM
That's bapou's turf, NJT.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:47 PM

GG!

Did you know about this? I don't even know if it's your area or not, but...

My commuter railroad in Montreal is getting 6 engines and two trainsets from NJT for long term lease!

Were getting the rebuilt Arrows...

and some GP40's, the cowl ones I think.

and some F40CAT's.

Should make it a bit more interesting now...

GP9's, F59's, F40's, F40CAT's, GP40's... all on a commuter line!

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:55 PM

WIN stuff! Thought that was going to stay PM stuff. I don't mind it here, keeps the place alive!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:20 PM
I'm gonna try blue, and if I don't like it, it'll probably become black. Yeah, I think on my layout though, most would be normal all white because it's a branch line w/ a small yard (prototype for yard is upstairs on my 4x8, it's 7'xabout a foot or 2. Pics in a few.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:06 PM

The front View I got my Mr. Eby, the guy does the drawings I post.

Maybe you can do 2 schemes. A Blue Face and a normal one. I would also recommend Painting the Trucks and Fuel tank Black, Silver, or Grey. Yes RRs can paint there trucks a color, but IMHO it looks kind of weird. Other wise the paint scheme in a whole is nice. I would also Ditch the stripe. The Tree on the back balances it.

EDIT:

Ok so the WIN hasn't died, I'm just letting it Run. Basically WIN bought 4 Ex ATSF SD45-2s from NREX, 4213 has gotten replaced with one of the SD45-2s. aka SD40-3s.

4213 and 4220 have Been Painted. 4218, and 4219, along with 4214, and 4215 are unrepainted.

4220 has been called the City of Chicago. They named her this because all of the SD40-3s work in Transfer Service in Chicago for there High Horse Power.

This is also an older locomotive, 4210, the WINs 10 anniversary, one ion the few non-DB SD40-2s.

This is the WINs First Anniversary SD40. Now she is a pretty tattered locomotive.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:24 PM

WCfan, where'd you find those head-on drawings? What's going on the nose is either A)a blue circle w/ a white palmetto silhoute (however that's spelled) or B) A blue palmetto tree. I'll google BN White Face Scheme.

EDIT: Reading the next page, I now see what you're saying. I wanted to keep this really clean and neat. Might add that blue stripe, though.

EDIT 2: Here's the SD40-2 w/ a blue palmetto tree on the front and the blue stripe. Might also make front of cab blue like the BN white-face scheme.  

[image posted w/ permission of author (7/18/08) and MR forum]

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:17 AM
Yep. Maybe we're getting too complicated. Would that be hard to do? I don't know how, decals?

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:55 PM
Yea like a thin blue line right below the radiator that goes all the way around.
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Posted by Railfan Alex on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:53 PM
Or just a thin line of blue around the long hood, just to break the ice. It would look fine on the rear too. Maybe?

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:16 PM
I was thinking that too, maybe some Chevrons. A big rear nose of Blue Wouldn't look right, I have done that before and it doesn't look super nice.
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Posted by Railfan Alex on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:09 PM
Even the rear could get some blue paint...

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:42 PM

A Little Research turned up I'm chopping up an ex PC GP38-2...Blush [:I]

Sawyer, something seems missing. You should do something like the BN White Face scheme. Have Blue on the face, and a smaller SCC logo on the nose. IMHO it just doesn't seem to look quite right to me with all white on the nose. Mind is I paint a nose veiw to show you what I'm talking about?

EDIT: Something like this.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:56 PM
 WCfan wrote:

Whistling [:-^]

Good work. now try that in N scale Tongue [:P]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Seriously though, looks like it's coming along well.

BTW, added the crescents to my motive power drawings:

SCC GP40

[image posted w/ permission of author (7/18/08) and mr forum]

SCC SD40-2

[image posted w/ permission of author (7/18/08) and mr forum]

DDWH GP40

[image posted w/ permission of author (7/18/08) and mr forum]

I'll probably start repaints of my units to this the Thursday or Friday of next week.

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:27 PM

Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:40 PM
So far, i've found that I could do this project for 88.something w/o shipping on the GP50 and decals (a high hood UP GP50, it's 3 bucks less), and on black paint and decal setting solution.

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:37 PM
 Packersnumber1 wrote:
 WCfan wrote:

Sawyer, what are you trying to do? Make a GP50? If you are I got a simpler way.

Buy a N-Scale GP60.

Replace the DB with a GP40 style DB.

Get a model that has a high hood, or get a high hood conversion kit.

GP50s and GP60s are basicaly the same. Except for the DB.

Yeah, but it ain't as fun Tongue [:P]. I think there's an N scale GP60, so that might work.

I can find the shell, but not the model. And the Shell would be like an SP or DRG&W, and then you'd have to really do some body work.

7 Inches big woop, Tongue [:P] if I can't tell the diffrence then what makes another p....never mind. lol.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:35 PM
 WCfan wrote:

Sawyer, what are you trying to do? Make a GP50? If you are I got a simpler way.

Buy a N-Scale GP60.

Replace the DB with a GP40 style DB.

Get a model that has a high hood, or get a high hood conversion kit.

GP50s and GP60s are basicaly the same. Except for the DB.

Yeah, but it ain't as fun Tongue [:P]. I think there's an N scale GP60, so that might work. The GP60 is 7 in. longer than a GP50 though.

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:32 PM

Sawyer, what are you trying to do? Make a GP50? If you are I got a simpler way.

Buy a N-Scale GP60.

Replace the DB with a GP40 style DB.

Get a model that has a high hood, or get a high hood conversion kit.

GP50s and GP60s are basicaly the same. Except for the DB.

EDIT: Never mind, I can't find an Nscale GP60 on the Walthers Site. So your idea will work the best, unless GG has a better way. Wink [;)]

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:41 PM

Cool, WCfan. I might use a high-hood GP38-2 instead of a GP40-2 for that project, or use a GP40-2 and just graft the radiator intakes onto the shell (an idea I got from another forum). Now though, i think I'll be using the high hood GP38-2 frame and handrails, and the bachmann GP50 shell.

YES! I'll use an atlas high hood GP38-2, and all I'll have to do is get the b-mann shell to mate w/ the handrails and frame.

EDIT 2: The cheapest way to do this is to get a Union Pacifc GP50 and decals for a Norfolk southern unit from wholesaletrains.com and a Southern High Hood gP38-2 from modeltrainstuff.com. Paint the b-mann shell and Atlas handrails black, decal, put on chassis, complete.

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:22 PM
Woot, ordered my parts today. Picked up some Stryene, some new x-acto blades, and some 2 window bay windows I can chop up to make into 3 window bay windows. The Cannon & Co. Parts should be comming next week.
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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:52 PM

On tYler's layout, my RR (South Carolina Central) acts like the Gennesee & Wyoming and owns the DDWH Railroad. So here's the corporate paint scheme for it, as far as I know:

[Image posted with permission by the author (07/18/08) and MR forum]

And here's a SCC SD40-2 (w/o # or sd40-2 markings)

[Image posted with permission by the author (07/18/08) and MR forum]

Oh, and one other project I'm kicking around is getting a B-mann standard line GP50 and the chassis from either an Atlas GP40/38 or GP40-2/38-2 and bashing them into a NS high hood GP50 that actually looks good. the gP50 rode on the same frame as them, so provided the trucks match (and if they don't, there are probably side frames available) and i can get some handrails that match a GP50, then I'll have a NS GP50, which is usually downtown. And I went looking down there today, there are a few abandoned spurs and one other that's abandoned, but is still activly served by trucks. I'll probably have pictures thursday.

EDIT: Here's a few photos to show what I'd have to do to make a GP50

prototype (not my photo)

picture of bachmann's n scale model (not my photo)

Here's a pic of the GP40-2 I was looking at (not my photo)

I'd start this by first getting B-mann's GP50 model (only $36), then getting an atlas GP40-2. Maybe the b-mann truck sideframes could be recycled, I don't know. looking at a GP40-2, the handrails match perfectly, but I don't know about the steps. I think the hardest part of this project would be making the bachmann shell mate w/ the Atlas Handrails and frame. Of course, there's some extra tubing on the GP50 fuel tank, but I think some brass wire might take care of that. So guys, you think this is doable?

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