BATMANI have no issues with these warning labels, the Governments spend a lot of money researching what may harm us. How people react to warnings such as weather warnings, disease warnings, and labels on cigarettes or booze is up to them, I see it as a gentle reminder. I like a wee bit of good scotch before dinner, I also know excessive amounts will do me in. People don't know what they don't know, all you can do is inform them and they choose how to proceed. Food nutrition labels tell us if we are eating crap or not. A lot of money was spent bringing in that program. How many lives were saved and /or improved with the money that was spent bringing in that program and was it worth it? Judging by the obesity epidemic not many read them so I guess it was a complete waste of money. You can lead a horse to water.
None are so blind as those that will not see.....
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
BATMANFood nutrition labels tell us if we are eating crap or not. A lot of money was spent bringing in that program. How many lives were saved and /or improved with the money that was spent bringing in that program and was it worth it?
Well, due to an operation I became a type 1 diabetic. So after 60 years of eating whatever I darned well please, it became necessary for me to count carbohydrates so that I can dose myself with insulin properly. Therefore to me and many of the other 37 million diabetics in America that label is worth the cost.
As a matter of fact, I think restaurants should also be required to post such information. I hate eating out anyway, but nothing reduces the "enjoyment" further than having to guess the amount of carbohydrates to avoid over/under dosing.
And for Ed… Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha. Cheers, the Bear.
Hi JaBear,
Thanks for posting 'Voices of Music'.
I had been trying to remember the musicians and this piece of music from way back. I recognised the Lute(?) player on the far right.
I know it's nothing to do with California (I cannot offer anything that members don't already know) but this music piece is one of my all time favourites. Paul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYZ79HjPh2M&list=RDEYZ79HjPh2M&start_radio=1&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic
"It's the South Shore Line, Jim - but not as we know it".
Well, here I am... I woke up this morning feeling like I was hit by a truck. Every muscle in my body aches, badly, and that is A LOT of muscle. Imagine a Giraffe with a sore throat.
I took a Covid test... POSITIVE.
This really sucks. 101 degree temperature, runny nose, and muscle aches. My blood oxygen level is at 94%. I have not been sick in forever.
I am double-immunized and boosted. This is terrible.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Good afternoon Diners.
Flo - Round of prefered treats for all, with a coke float for me. Thanks.
Kevin - Sorry to hear you are under the weather. Get well soon!
Warning labels -
howmus … though sadly this, while not a poster, is what I get to see, even on a several boxes containing HO scale locomotives!!! Yikes!!!!
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I've used similar, by saying "Glad I'm in Pennsylvania then!"
Pretty sure that literally everything causes cancer in California, including breathing in California air.
I have a theory as to why - For years, the Navy tested radioactive bombs off the coast of California, and all that radiation had to travel somewhere. Most times the current and wind direction carried all that "hot" water and air directly towards the coastline.
One such declassified test, my Grandfather was part of - Operation Wigwam. All the ships from that test were hauled, or sailed under their own power, back to Cali, "hot" ones even. And the contaminated water? Currents carried it right to the coast line....
You get the picture.
So, California sees all these items that "could" cause cancer, because California itself is dangerous.
As far as warning labels, and other warnings themselves - I feel that the above label is overused, therefore it loses most (if not all) of it's "warning" power. Other warnings that are not as frequently used tend to get more attention, simply because they are not on every product known to man...
Warnings and warning labels are a good thing, until they get too overused. (Like Ed mentioned with the back-up/movement beepers/flashers.) Once they get overused, they lose all their intended effect. Then, by that point, you might as well not even have the warning, as nobody cares about them anyways.
Just like my area and "Winter Weather Advisories" in the winter time for 2 inches of snow... People stop paying attention when you cry wolf about a chihuahua.
Rick J - Glad that the recvery is going well.
Hope all are well, and all enjoy the day!
Ricky W.
HO scale Proto-freelancer.
My Railroad rules:
1: It's my railroad, my rules.
2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.
3: Any objections, consult above rules.
SeeYou190 Well, here I am... I woke up this morning feeling like I was hit by a truck. Every muscle in my body aches, badly, and that is A LOT of muscle. Imagine a Giraffe with a sore throat. I took a Covid test... POSITIVE. This really sucks. 101 degree temperature, runny nose, and muscle aches. My blood oxygen level is at 94%. I have not been sick in forever. I am double-immunized and boosted. This is terrible. -Kevin
Good Evening Diners. Chloe, I'll have some of that wildebeest Brother Lion left, and an ice cold Pepsi from Ricky. Thanks guys!
BATMANConservation put up a bear in area sign but I am going to live dangerously and go anyway. What a waste of money putting up that sign
SeeYou190I took a Covid test... POSITIVE.
ricktrains4824Just like my area and "Winter Weather Advisories" in the winter time for 2 inches of snow... People stop paying attention when you cry wolf about a chihuahua.
Almost forgot. Got the appliances today. I felt bad for the guys having to carry them into my basement. It's not an easy path to get anything down, and my basement ceiling is really low. I can stand up in most of it, but barely. Have to duck under the main beam in the center, and to go out the door. The guys that delivered the stuff today were both taller than me. One guy could stand straight in parts of the basement, the other couldn't at all. I thanked them profusely and gave them each a $20 for lunch. They could have said they wouldn't/couldn't do it, and I wouldn't have blamed them. I had a buddy lined up to help me carry them in just in case.
Mike
well dang Kevin, that stinks!
Get well soon!
work note for me. I got passed up for a significant promotion.
I am not happy, I had a conf with my bosses boss.
There may be some changes afoot.
I have also applied at three other jobs.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Water Level Route BATMAN Conservation put up a bear in area sign but I am going to live dangerously and go anyway. What a waste of money putting up that sign Kind of like the cancer warning labels, huh? At least don't walk quietly. Put bells on the dogs or something.
BATMAN Conservation put up a bear in area sign but I am going to live dangerously and go anyway. What a waste of money putting up that sign
Kind of like the cancer warning labels, huh? At least don't walk quietly. Put bells on the dogs or something.
Black bears never worried me, at my old house I would pull into the carport late at night and they would be sleeping in my carport. I would honk and flash the lights and they would go "whatever", I would just pull halfway into the carport, get out of the car and walk into the house and they never gave me the time of day. Grizzlies, however, get a lot of respect and I have seen many in the wild. Up at the ranch, we would carry a rifle out on the range up until mid-June when their bellies were finally full after hibernation, after that the guns would go back into the lockup until next spring. They would take down full-grown cattle in early spring. Black bears are scaredy cats especially when you have a dog or two along.
Kevin, hope you get over this quickly. Watch those SATs, if they fall below 90%, time to go to the hospital. Being vaccinated makes the world of difference as to how sick you may get. We have friends that are ER Docs and nurses and the only ones in trouble are those not vaccinated. Makes you shake your head.
With Monkeypox on the rise, it will be easy to tell who isn't vaccinated. There are a couple of other "plagues" showing up in the world that have come to the attention of health officials, I suspect the news departments will be mentioning them soon. Our local health officials are already aware of them.
Had a sushi feast tonight, one thing about living on the coast is it is really fresh. I ordered a big plate of octopus as Lions talk had me wanting to have it. Two thumbs up as it was really fresh, suction cups and all.
The Scotch went down well tonight, The wife and I are planning a Rocky Mountain trip for September exploring CPR history, life is perfect.
All the best to all.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Flashback Friday! Where's TF?
The rockin with your Bud's version.
Good morning Diners. A coffee on the go please, Flo.
Just a quick visit. Dawn hasn't taken kindly to the temperature rise here. Though she loved the 44 degree temperature when we visited Dubai and Doha?
Kevin. Take care. Some symptoms are mild. Others are more dangerous. When I got Covid I felt fine, then the next I remember was Paramedics preparing me for a week of hospital food.
Try and call in later.
Stay Safe Everyone.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
Hi Brent,
Dire Straits was my favourite band! Maybe because I was working in retail when I first started out. Thanks for the great video!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
AEP528Do you really not get it? People are laughing and mocking California because of the labeling, while in fact something that seems as harmless and natural as wood dust has caused cancer... ... Unfortunately, too many people suffer when simple precautions can protect them, because of the same mocking attitude exhibited in these forums.
I’d better get off my high horse and go and sit quietly in the back booth.
May I join you? I totally agree with your position.
When I was the Training Manager for the Sears Canada store in Newmarket, Ontario, the federal government introduced the 'WHMIS' system (Workplace Hazardous Materials Information System). It was a good system except for the fact that we didn't have many hazardous materials coming into the store. In fact, the only potentially hazardous material was 'White Out' typing correction fluid. In order for the White Out to create a hazard you would have to crush a whole case of the stuff in an enclosed space. So, ya, that could happen maybe in the back of a transport trailer parked at the receiving dock, but the forklift would have to run over the case repeatedly in order to crush all the bottles. In addition to that, the fact is that we never had the need to order more than a couple dozen bottles of White Out at a time. We would never order it in bulk! We spent hours putting all the staff through the mandatory training. It was a total waste of time and resources.
Note that I am not dismissing the WHMIS program. It was a valuable addition to workplace safety in many cases and no doubt saved some lives, but it was applied with far too broad a brush.
Cheers!!
Good morning diners. I'm writing here in the daughter's living room while watching three grandkids run around. I made their breakfasts, and they're having fun making lots of noise and climbing on the couch. Fun! ... but I'm tired.
I'll be joining Bear in the back booth.
I'll be writing more when we get home next week. I don't like writing posts on my phone. Have a good day, everyone!
York1 John
Greetings to all from my Southern command.
we came down to our Mississippi house Thursday, mainly to check on things.
It is hot here but same hot as at our Northen Command.
We went and saw one of our favorite local Blues singers last night.
not much else goin on these days.
Mornin' folks!
Chemical Safety Warnings...... I guess I will tell you my reason for being in strong favor of them...
I married a wonderful, sweet woman who grew up in a large family. Seven to be exact. Five kids and the parents. Three of the seven died of Bone Related Cancers! My wife died due to ALL (Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia) after a bone marrow transplant went bad. Both my Mother in Law and my Brother in Law died of bone cancers.
My FIL was a member of the Experimental Aircraft assn. and used to recover planes in the basement of their house. These were cloth covered and the cloth was made hard by using a substance they called "dope". It was primarily Benzene! The house used to smell of it most of the time. Benzene is now known to cause bone related cancers!
I wish that those "Warnings" had been printed on the containers of that crap back then. He might have not used it in the house.... My family had horrible deaths from the cancers! I still miss my wife more than anyone can imagine (It has been 35 years!). I still wish I had spoken up the morning I took her home from the Cleveland Clinic. She had diarrhea during the night which was a red flag that the Graft vs. Host was going bad. They likely could have turned that around. She wanted to get home and be treated at a closer hospital. By the time I got her there it was too late!
So.... Yes, I have very strong opinions about the need for those warnings, and wish people would read them and heed them!
OK, Soap box put away!
Well diners, I guess I'll be hanging out with Kevin in the hospital car. Had my usual allergy symptoms yesterday, but a sore throat with them. Tested negative. Took another test today. Positive. Pretty sure I know where I picked it up. A gal I had to train at work told me Thursday that her kid has some weird summer sickness. Right. First session I had with her was Tuesday. Three days later and... Makes me so mad. Vaccinated and boosted, so hopefully sometimes stay mild.
Water Level Route Well diners, I guess I'll be hanging out with Kevin in the hospital car. Had my usual allergy symptoms yesterday, but a sore throat with them. Tested negative. Took another test today. Positive. Pretty sure I know where I picked it up. A gal I had to train at work told me Thursday that her kid has some weird summer sickness. Right. First session I had with her was Tuesday. Three days later and... Makes me so mad. Vaccinated and boosted, so hopefully sometimes stay mild.
Yes, reminds me of my working days. I was a software engineer and worked in a cube farm at a computer, but I had to take a course in Ladder Safety. Why I'll never know. We didn't even have high shelves. And the course had nothing in it about black cats, either.
The higher ups were relentlessly silly about getting in required training, even though they usually had no relevant courses or the courses that might have been useful were only given in some far-flung locale. I did figure out the solution to the silliness when I was told I had to take a course called Blood Borne Illnesses because the radar I was working on was destined for some remote alien environment. I was not planning to go with it, but they still said I had to take the course. So, in a bit of Malicious Compliance, I used their own nonsense against them. I put all these useless courses in my Training Plan. Amazing! They never bothered me again.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
Today I managed to get Dawn out of the house. If she stays in any length of time she gets frightened to leave home. Once out she is okay.
Mike. Stay positive and 'ride out' the Covid.
A number of Diners are missing. A speedy return of them is required. Flo. When they return, whatever they ask for put it on my tab.
Good morning from the stunning West Coast, currently 21c in the sunshine.
Mike, sorry to hear you are sick but at least you are vaccinated, Our ER friends are telling us that every single person with covid in their hospital is unvaccinated. We are having a get-together tonight and our hospital friends have once again removed themselves from social activities due to the virus really ramping up again. They don't want to infect anyone if they have been infected.
Ray, that story of how you lost your wife is tragic. There are no words.
Mark Knopfler is so unique in his guitar playing, there are some good videos on the tube where he sits and talks about his style, along with comments on his talent from various teachers and fellow greats. The seventies and eighties were a time of so many memorable concerts. You would get the extended versions of the top songs at the concerts.
Time to hit the bike. Ray or anyone else that uses a workout monitor, this is what my half hour on the bike looks like.
I was in jelly belly territory on the 17th, I have to ride 5 times a week to stay in the blue and get my 65-year age into the high 40s.
Thanks for the great, vintage posters, Bear!
I hope Kevin and Mike are doing OK. I just read an article in the Washington Post about "Covid Virgins" of which I am one, too. Vaxed and boosted and haven't been infected. Hope it stays that way.
My main underground feeder somehow "opened" and cut power to the three houses at the end of the cul-de-sac. The utility company worked (noisily!) through the night to restore power, digging a 400' trench and burying 4" duct, running new wire and getting everything buttoned up at 3 AM!
You may recall I had some power issues about two weeks ago and related that to the foreman but he, of course, didn't think that was the problem. Still, they couldn't find the break so had to run all new material. I showed him where there was a lightning strike that burned a tree root ball back in '91 and ruined some appliances and fried our meters.
"That wouldn't have anything to do with this", says he. There's still a big crater where the tree root burned away. I thought the lightning may have compromised the jacket and finally, after all these years, corroded the aluminum conductors?
I'd sure like to see what caused the open circuit. I'll never know as the old line was left in the ground.
A gloomy, stormy day here in NE Ohio. This video compliments it well:
I don't understand how those thimble slag cars don't tip over. Wish I had room to devote a slag pit in my mill area.
A big part of warning labels is that if you want to sell your product in international markets you have to comply with many RoHS rules. It is really for the benefit of us all. When I started at GE in '78 we were cutting and sanding asbestos (Transite sheet, pipe lagging), working up to our elbows in 2% Thorium powder, kicking around mercury like it was play sand, brushing cobalt dust off the benches before we ate our lunch, unloading tank cars of HF and HC acids with nothing but safety glasses (sometimes) and there were no company directives as to hazards or personal protection. Even after OSHA it took years to implement safety protocols for Personal Protection Equipment and practices.
Enjoy your Sunday, folks!
Cheers, Ed
A favourite of mine. Chet Atkins & Mark Knopfler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKFuBOHwtFA&ab_channel=classicalmusic%26Jazz%E2%99%AB
Good morning diners. Flo, decongestant and a couple Tylenol please. Thanks for the well wishes everyone. So far my symptoms haven't been awful. I slept pretty good last night which I'm sure I needed. Coughing a bit more today, but it's productive-moving crud out of my lungs and sinuses. I'm quarantining in our camper, so it certainly could be worse.
Hope Kevin is doing okay.
MLC-sorry about the job situation. That really sucks.
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Did I mention about the eggs for breakfast? I wonder where Hagrid got them from?
Safety and Warning Lables...
Once upon a time it was that anything flamible that you bought in a store had an FDNY number on it. It did not matter if you were in New York, or any place else. Haven't seen these in years upon years. Maybe NY does not require them anymore.
PHENYLKEYONURICS: CONTAINS PHENYLALNINE...When was the last time you saw that one!
We have six employees in our kitchen. We have over 20 required warniung signs. I think that I am the only one who has read them all while waiting for the toast to pop.