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what would make out of this stuff
Posted by 0-6-0 on Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:41 AM
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Posted by chutton01 on Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:28 AM

Should have placed an figure (in your scale of choice) so we can get a sense of scale - are those cardboard tubes N-Scale sized tank-farm oil tanks, or G-scale culverts?
Given HO and going by the background objexts, perhaps the yellow spacers' sides could be trimmed square, painted and made into store/warehouse/supermarket shelving of some sort.
The staples, how many do you have? Trim off the leg ends, and you do (as you stated) have lots of scrap flat bars...

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Posted by mononguy63 on Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:31 AM

The yelow pieces look like heat fins from a large electical component like a transformer. Could the staples be straightened and banded as bar stock?

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Posted by cedarwoodron on Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:32 AM

Large welded tanks (with flat faced ends) may be shipped on flat cars- those paper tubes could easily become such. Just paint them black, as such tanks might be finished w/ the end user's name or company logo when received and installed (if above ground). The "staples (?)" could become reinforcement strapping on such tanks. The slotted items could be load block devices for such tanks.

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:54 AM

This reminds me of a project we had in Cub Scouts where we were given a bag of assorted strange stuff and told to use it to make something, such as a model. 

The large copper staples -- might be usable as downspouts as well as the scrap loads that someone mentioned.  They might also have a use when a freight car is slightly underweight and you need to tuck small amounts of weight into nooks and crannies. 

The yellow things could have a use as spacers when scratchbuilding things such as fences, bridge bents, and other projects which call for regular spacing of wood or styrene parts. 

From a modeling perspective they have a slight resemblance to some HVAC chillers I have seen.   And at some car repair shops I have seen spacers that look a little like those yellow things be used to hold replacement boxcar doors upright.

The cardboard tubes could have a use to hold lengths of stripwood or styrene near the workbench.  The very sturdy tubes could be used to keep tubes of cement upright rather than flat on the table top.  Also sturdy tubes are useful for rolling flex track down into freshly applies latex caulk when tracklaying.  I use a small roller meant for wallpaper but a sturdy tube would be nearly as good, and free. 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:17 AM

My immediate thought, prompted by the cardboard tubes, was, small-size oil refinery, either assembled as a load shipping/receiving industry or as a multi-flatcar load of tanks with pipe connections in odd places.

The yellow spacers could be placed in pairs, large end down, against a plumbing or electrical shop wall - as racks for pipe or rigid electrical conduit.  A little creative sculpting with a file could narrow the outer edges of the 'shelves' and square up the rounded corners.

As noted, the staples would make good downspouts.  I leave fabricating appropriate gutters as an exercise for the student.

Chuck (Scratchbuilding Central Japan in September, 1964 - with odd stuff from odd sources)

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:29 AM

I see either horizontal fuel tanks or vertical grain storage silos.  A farm silo would be another option.  The big copper staples could be straightened and placed around the tanks as support bands to add strength.  The yellow pieces could be trimmed and cut to be used as support cradles for horizontal tanks.

Those are thick-walled tubes, though, and would probably be too heavy for flatcar loads.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:21 PM

Various tanks made from cardboard or plastic paper roll tubes:

...and a roof-top water tank:


or gondola load:

Hack the staples into shorter pieces, dump them in some chemical blackener, then use them as a scrap load.  The load below is blackened metal stakes from Athearn Blue Box flatcars:


Another option for weathering metal parts is a propane torch.  I stripped the wire from a number of open-frame motors, then wound it into rough coils.  Working outdoors, I played the torch flame over them, burning away the insulating varnish:


Not one to waste, the remaining armature parts were separated, then heated, creating another scrap load:


The yellow parts do suggest cooling fins, and you could probably use them on a simple (or complicated) shape made from sheet styrene, or even combine that with one of the tubes for a flatcar load.
I made these loads from left-over panels from a Walthers auto rack - as a railfan, I can't say for sure what they are, but they're shown being delivered to GERN's flux processing plant, and are surely some sort of machinery used in the process:


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Posted by 0-6-0 on Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:43 PM

Hello I new you guys would have some great ideas.

Sorry I should have told you I model in HO. The small tube is 2 1/4 long and 1 1/16 od the next one is 4 1/16 long and 1 1/4 od the last one is 4 1/8 long and 1/34 od. So they would be large tanks.  I could cap the ends so you wont see how thick they are to make loads out of them.

Dave   This reminds me of a project we had in Cub Scouts where we were given a bag of assorted strange stuff and told to use it to make something, such as a model. Big Smile I rembemer that to maybe thats why I like to make things form junk.

Chutton01  The staples I have more then I would like to count.

I should have enough to fill a few gons.

Wayne Bow Thanks for the photos They really help on seeing what can be done.

Lets see what eles is in the junk box and what it can be. Have a nice day Frank

 

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Posted by Steven S on Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:47 PM

what would make out of this stuff

 

I could make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl.

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Posted by mononguy63 on Friday, April 11, 2014 8:49 AM

Steven S
I could make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl.

 

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Posted by maxman on Friday, April 11, 2014 9:11 AM

doctorwayne
Hack the staples into shorter pieces, dump them in some chemical blackener, then use them as a scrap load. The load below is blackened metal stakes from Athearn Blue Box flatcars:

 

What product did you use as the chemical blackner?  Thanks.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, April 11, 2014 12:59 PM

In the past, I used Hobby Black, but I haven't seen it around for some time.  A-West's Blacken-It works almost as well.  I also discovered that gun blue will work, too, and just last night I was using it to blacken grab irons on a bunch of freight cars which are almost ready to go into the paint shop. 
For scrap, I place it in a disposable container (the plastic from blister-packs is useful for this), then dump in only enough blackener to wet all of the material.  I then leave it until it's all used up, stirring occasionally if I think of it - sometimes it sits for days or even weeks.  It has little effect on stainless steel or aluminum, but the residue from the steel and brass bits with which it's mixed accumulates on everything.

Here's a load (all of my scrap loads are "loose") consisting of brass and steel axles, tires from Rivarossi passenger car wheelsets, bits of wire and other junk from scratchbuilding projects, and some parts from disposable lighters, all blackened or affected by the blackening - as you can see, some of it appears rusted:


...and more of the same:


This one is mostly the Rivarossi tires and axles - the mix of materials seems to alter the resulting colours, as does the amount of time the blackener is allowed to "work".


If you're blackening parts or details that are meant to be in-use items (not scrap), follow the directions on the bottle as to the time of exposure to achieve blackening and any neutralising necessary to halt the chemical reaction, as many of these solutions are acidic.


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Posted by Medina1128 on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:54 PM

"What do you make outta this??"
"A brooch, a pterodactyl.."

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Posted by 0-6-0 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:00 PM

mononguy63
 
Steven S
I could make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl.

 

 

Geeked

 

HAHAHA best laugh I had all day thanks. I think I am going to make a tank load out of the middel tubes for flat a car. And make a few flat bar stock loads out the staples and use the bent parts for scrap. Thanks for the ideas Frank

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Posted by Medina1128 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:36 AM

Steven S

 

 
what would make out of this stuff

 

 

I could make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl.

Johnny

 

I didn't see your reply when I made my comment. Apparently, twisted minds think alike...Mischief

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Posted by ACY Tom on Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:44 AM

Seems like some of those tubes could be used as forms for casting your own tunnel linings or culverts.

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Posted by elite194 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:09 AM

One of the things I would make is a boiler for the interior of a building.  I'd use the spacers as a platform to hold the tube off the floor and then make a simple cardboard based around it.  I cap the ends with the bottom of pill bottle of some sort to give a bit of a rounded edge.  Then I would paint on a coat of plaster of paris for the insulating effect.

Some straws and coat hanger wire would served as my plumbing.  I'd paint the whole thing in a thick silver paint (not chrome).  Rust the pipes, or make them cast iron black.

Then I would take my ball peen hammer and pound all those staples flat.  I'd give them a bit or a curve and use them as strapping on the boiler body....

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Posted by cedarwoodron on Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:10 PM

Now that I see these tubes again:

Take strong duct tape and wrap several in a cluster at the top and the bottom of the cylinders. Spray paint the assembly your color choice. Then get an inexpensive plastic lazy susan and use contact cement to glue the bases to the lazy susan. You now have a tool holder, glue holder, whatever holder for your work bench that was cheap and will last a long time!

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Posted by 0-6-0 on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:12 PM

Hello Elite194 I like that idea and I need a Boiler for my roundhouse.

Cedarwoodron I could use about 10 of them my bench is a mess.

Thanks for the ideas Frank

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