EMD F3 A

[RR_Mel]

Wikipedia says that 1400 -  1441 were EMD F3s.  There is a pretty good description of the F3.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_F3

 

Mel

 

Modeling the early to mid 1950s SP in HO scale since 1951

 

 

My Model Railroad   

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Bakersfield, California

 

I'm beginning to realize that aging is not for wimps.

 

[7j43k]

graymatter

 

In the picture Mel put up I wonder which B unit that is? E3B or E7B?

 

 

 

Those are B-units in the photo, not E's.  The last one is one of the 10 F3B's with boilers that the UP had.  The numbers, at the date of the photo, were likely:

900B,C

901B,C

902B,C

903B,C

904B,C

The second B doesn't seem to be showing any rooftop boiler fittings.

 

 

Ed 

[graymatter]

Okay

I will look for an HO scale EMD F3A phase II.

[7j43k]

F-units (usually) had two exhaust stacks:  one after the #1 fan, and one after the #3 fan.

The UP did their turbo installations on GP9's, not these.

 

 

Ed

[graymatter]

Okay

I cannot tell the difference between the F3 and the F7.

In the picture Mel put up I wonder which B unit that is? E3B or E7B?

I was wrong about turbo charging....that was a GP thing that EMD then UP did.

The answer is....if I am running my (un-built) (imaginary at this point) layout and someone says "is that an F3 or F7?"

I can say "You tell me and we will both know"

I just like the EMD F series next to the 4-8-8-4!

thanks guys........

 

[trwroute]

That looks like a standard 'ol F3 phase 2 with low fans.  If you look closely in front of the winterization hatch, the second exhaust stack can be seen.

I've never seen a turbocharged F unit, but i guess anything is possible.

[RR_Mel]

I found this picture with a Google Search for UP EMD F3 1429, its #1403 but should be from the same run.

 

 

It’s hard to see the roof line from the angle of the camera.

 

Mel

 

Modeling the early to mid 1950s SP in HO scale since 1951

 

 

My Model Railroad   

http://melvineperry.blogspot.com/

 

Bakersfield, California

 

I'm beginning to realize that aging is not for wimps.

 

 

[mbinsewi]

I'm not an expert on F3's, but yes, that is a winterization hatch on the fourth fan, and it almost looks like there is a second exhaust between the WH and fan 3 ?

It looks like the steam generator is in the B unit.  The fans appear a normal height to me, you would have to ad the WH, lifting rings, horns, etc, to match this loco.

Just my take.

Mike.

[graymatter]

The picture below is from the 'streamliner' magazine cover. The picture was taken about 1952. Description inside cover  identiies it as F3 1429.

(There is a page crease makes the B unit look bent)

Is this diesel loco an EMD F3 with a winterization hatch?

I read that the UP had turbo chargers installed on some EMD loco's (which expalins the single ehaust)

On Ho scale F3 models the four fans seem taller and on this UP prototype lower with a single exhaust.

Question: is there a manufacture that has this loco with this roof detail or does this require finding detail parts and modifing an F3A and F3B?

 

Thomas