First coat of paint on the 'Challenger' tanks. Compare to the above.
Matt Summers watches as they pass.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
Just been looking at some old film of tanks leaving ROF Barnbow. They left on tank transporters and went by road to their destination.
Therefore it is a case of modellers license for tanks to travel by rail.
A bit more research to see if there is any more information I may need.
Pruitt I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the tank.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the tank.
Mark P.
Website: http://www.thecbandqinwyoming.comVideos: https://www.youtube.com/user/mabrunton
For a long time I have been searching models of Challenger Tanks that were built at The Royal Ordnance Factory (ROF) Barnbow. My local model store owner told me he had something similar. Two 'Battlezone' Tanks on Lomacs. 'Battlezone' is a kids train set. A purchase was made as they looked like (near enough) Challenger Tanks.
As received.
Now to find out what the real ones looked like on leaving the ROF. What color? Were they covered over etc.?
Now (I think) I have enough carriages to operate real services on the layout. It is not about running any carriage any way.
Former Calder Railway and Leeds, Scarcroft & Wetherby (now Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway) carriages operate most services. The London & North Western Railway and North British Railway carriages operate on the thru services.
The Baggage Brake Vans (I will have two) will be on the rear of the little four wheeled coaches. True to prototype.
I have new rolling stock for when I run my 1914/1919 steam railway.
A six wheeled Brake/Third (Class) clerestory coach in Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway livery.
A L & Y Baggage Brake Van. Which travels at the end of a rake of coaches. I have to apply L & Y lettering.
Two London & North Western Railway coaches. A six wheeled all first class four compartment coach. A three compartment 1st/3rd (Class) four wheeled coach.
Note the different heights of the coaches, typical of the time.
hon30critter Hi David, Those are nice carriages! Does the middle axle float to get around tight curves? Dave
Hi David,
Those are nice carriages!
Does the middle axle float to get around tight curves?
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
I ordered yesterday two North British Railway six wheeled carriages. The reason being, every day one carriage would leave Edinburgh and make the whole journey to Plymouth. The carriage would either leave Edinburgh in the morning, or arrive in the evening. The Great Western Railway would send one of their carriages from Plymouth to Edinburgh on the opposite service.
Both services traveled thru Leeds New/Central Station.
As I say one carriage did the whole journey; no harm in having two.
Considering I ordered them late yesterday afternoon (15.20), the carriages have just arrived (12.48). Now to open the boxes and give the carriages their first run. Photos to follow.
Edit - The pictures.
On their first trial run.
For a few days now I have been thinking of altering the layout. Drawing plans and wondering where the scenery I wanted was to go. Everytime it came back to what it is now. So no alterations; just run trains.
Here is a picture of a southbound troop train. On board is part of 19th (1st North Riding of Yorkshire) Regiment of Foot. The locomotive in charge is Ex-Calder Railway 'Bezel'
The same train passing Crown Point Junction. Ash Farm Fields and the lake are beyond.
The scene at Clarence Dock. The goods train hasn't arrived yet. A 'little scallywag' is being 'told off' by the policeman. Has he been stealing (again)?
Another view of 'Thor' and 'Allan Water' as they pass at Leeds Sovereign Street Station. Some snow is still lingering. (A lite scattering of talcum powder.) It was a hard Winter.
The guard is seen in the 6 wheeled Brake Van (Caboose). Note the lamp attached at the back.
'Allan Water' and the goods train at Canal Corner. The coal bunker is in front of the locomotive cab. Coal was fed into the boiler by a series of levers. In real life it was not a successful idea, but makes an unusual locomotive to the fleet. A good, little, running loco at that.
Some scenes from the last running session.
Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway locomotive, 'Zephyrus' on a goods train to Number 1 Filling Station, Barnbow. K&ESR locomtives are named after Greek Gods. The Greek God for the West Wind is Zephyrus.
The locomotive was formally Percy from the Thomas the Tank range. It has a tendency to travel fast, hence its new name. It hasn't any crew yet. A trip to the model store is required.
A scene at the locomotive depot. The scene all around is set for when I run diesels. The locomotives on shed are - at the rear 'Vivienne' and 'Katie'. 'Allan Water' is in front of them. To the left is 'Leefy' and on the right 'Huxtable'. All are former Calder Railway locomotives now in Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway livery.
In real life by 1929 all the locomotives were scrapped. But this is 1914/1919 and are good 'workhorses'.
Still in her resplendant pre 1913 K&ESR livery is 'Thor' on a passenger train to Kirkstall. It is waiting whilst an L&Y goods train passes, 'Allan Water' in charge.
Thank you for your kind words, Lastspikemike. They are most appreciated.
When I run trains it is not just to a staging area. I imagine its journey to its destination; say to Dewsbury Market Place. A railway station that closed to passenger traffic in 1930, but remained open for goods traffic. A station that regularly had trains of Special Trips to the coast. Journies I often took as a young lad in the 1950s.
Dewsbury Market Place Station. A Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Station. A Station that was dark, dingy and very smokey. A train arriving would 'explode' out of the tunnel in smoke and steam as it then entered the station; once again enveloping itself in more smoke. Loved it. Loved it.
Leeds Central. Its narrow platforms. Elevators down to the platforms for staff with barrows of parcels. It was a main terminus station with crews changing all the time as long-haul expresses arrived.
Other stations too full of memories. Maybe. Just maybe we move to a larger property with a huge room for a layout. More scenery for the trains to travel thru; yes!! The thought of building Dewsbury Market Place Station? No! The smoke, steam and dingy amosphere is a wonderful memory. I would leave it there.
Thank you for your comments, Douglas. They are much appreciated. Most of what I write here can (hopefully) give ideas for modelers over the pond.
Originally the layout was diesel running only (by myself). Then the grandchildren wanted to join in. (Great) I had a small collection of little steam engines and four wheeled trucks. They liked them as they were easier to put on the track and run. 'Like Topsy it has grown.'
It was then I wrote 'History of the Line' and reason why it is there. Having a history, especially if most of it is true gives a layout credibility (imo); even a ficticious line can become 'real'.
The history of my line serves both the steam era of 1914/1919 and the diesel era of 1970s, because the factories the line serves are still there; both wartime and peacetime.
Most of the little people on the layout have nothing to do with the railway, but are a very important part of the scene.
Scenery is not football pitch perfect. Nature decides otherwise. There are 50 shades of green in the trees and grass. Rain clouds are a magical mixture of greys to almost black; then a shaft of sunlight.
The factories on the line. What do they make? The raw products required? The end product taken away? Is it coal or oil heated? Uniforms for the staff. A boxvan of uniforms once in a while. Paper, pens and other stationery items? Okay they probably would be delivered by road, but not today
Dare to be different. Bringing a model railroad to life. A Living Model Railway that has a reason to be there.
Simple really. You learn such a lot on the area modeled. I lived not fifteen minutes away from Barnbow and saw many a tank being built there, yet knew nothing about it until I read about it. The same with Blackburn's Aircraft at Olympia Works. For a short time I worked not far from there.
Most of all it then becomes enjoyable. A railroad to be proud of. A railroad proud to operate.
David) Incredible shots! Heavens to Mergatroyd it looks like a very busy line. I see the hustle n bustle in it. I like it!
Douglas
'Leefy' with a southbound ammunition train. The loads are lifted out and the wagons can return empty.
The Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway (K&ESR) ran both goods and passenger trains to East Seacroft and Barnbow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnbow
At the time carriages were of different heights. Here is a K&ESR passenger train at Sovereign Street on its way to Barnbow.
Leaving Roseville Station. 'Titan' is in charge.
Near the Junction.
Read about businesses and companies on the railroad brings up some surprises. Not just what they make, but the raw products required. Coal or oil for heating. Special items -- at Barnbow Munitions Factory they had their own cattle to feed the workforce. Every week a cattle train would arrive.
The beauty of a railroad with two timeframes.
It is back to 1914/1919 There are three railroad companies on the line. The Calder Railway, Leeds, Scarcroft & Wetherby Railway and Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway. Both the Calder Railway & LS&WR are now owned by the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway hence both locomotives & carriages are now in L&Y colors. The K&ESR was absorbed into the L&Y at the end of 1919.
Ex-Calder Railway locomotive 'Katie' waits at Leeds Sovereign Street platform with her carriages whilst ExLSWR locomotive 'Wetherby' passes with a northbound goods train.
'Wetherby' thunders thru Roseville Station bound for Blackburn's Aircraft Factory at Olympia Works, Oakwood, near Leeds. By researching the area of the rail line brings up information for different wagon loads and gives a layout a reason to be there.
Robert Blackburn & Olympia Works - http://www.loveoakwood.co.uk/oakwood-history/olympia-works/
Next week (all being well) I will be allowed to have my grandchildren here running trains. Two of them like to run 0.4.0 and 0.6.0 steam locomotives. They are easy for them to handle rather 'the big stuff'.
Therefore I have been running them again ready for action.
Two views of Clarence Dock. 'Katie' is in charge of the four wheeled carriages. 'Harwood' is doing a bit of shunting.
An overal view of the small Yard and Dock
How many times do we know there is a locomotive or train there, but we cannot see it (properly).
View from the control area looking over Roseville School railings towards Crown Point Yard.
Bescot based (near Birmingham) Class 47 47474 Sir Rowland Hill on its way to Leeds Central for its next turn of duty.
The same time, but a view over the bushes. In the Yard is Gateshead based Class 47 47404 Hadrian. 47404 was regularly seen around Birmingham.
Class 58 locomotives were built mainly to haul coal trains from collieries to the power stations.
Here is Class 58 58001 with train of coal hoppers. The hoppers are of 1910 (or so) era and operate mainly on my steam engine running days. At least the Class 58 is hauling real coal.
(I thought) In real life Class 52 locomotives never ventured to Leeds and I always operated my small fleet of them on the Rule 1 basis. Two weeks ago I was informed (on the odd occassion) Class 52s on the Swansea to Leeds Central did the whole journey.
Here is Class 52 D1057 Western Chieftain on a diverted Leeds Central to Swansea train at Crown Point Junction signals. Class 58 58001 is in the Yard.
Two pictures of diesels at Clarence Dock. The little station platform is from a diorama of Lybster Station I did a few years ago.
When running steam locomotives at Clarence Dock thing are okay. Changing to diesel running a few minor problems are happening. I shall have to alter the track plan a little. A bigger run round is needed.
Meanwhile Class 25 25237 is reversing trucks at Clarence Dock.
Little things added here and there.
People waiting at the crossing as Class 47 47402 Gateshead passes on its way to York
Class 142 arriving at Leeds Sovereign Street Station on its way to Wetherby. A driver and passengers have been added.
A rarity A former Autocoach converted to run with a Cravens DMU power car. The Autocoach was originally powered by a small steam engine. Now converted and repainted blue and cream is on the Wakefield Kirkgate to Leeds Central service.
It is still raining outside, but not as heavy.
Class 47 47515 Night Mail has been at Doncaster Locomotive Works for a major overhaul. Her first run before being put into service properly is on a Doncaster to Leeds Central local. Seen here passing the Junction.
Here is 47515 again at Crown Point Junction. Ash Farm Fields and The Lake are at the rear. Workmen at J.H. Thompson's Builders Merchants are hard at work oblivious to the goings on on the railway.
I was having a challenge with one of my carriages; forever derailing. It was always at the same place and I thought it was the track.
Anyway it turned out to be a set of wheels. Not sure why, but I replaced them.
I then decided to run the carriages on test runs.
Sometimes I get weird and wonderful pictures depending on the 1-1 world outside the train room. It is raining. Raining hard.
A misty, eerie feel as Class 25 25 218 waits at the signal with a Leeds Central to York local service.
25218 now has right of way.
Near Canal Corner. A shaft of sunlight. Does Stevie Steel (in the heavy yellow coat) get a good picture?
I have been running a few trains after some ballasting and painting figures.
Edinburgh Haymarket based Class 47 47711 Greyfriars Bobby passing Leeds Sovereign Street on its way to Crown Point Yard.
At Crown Point Yard. Class 37 37417 Highland Region, 47711 Greyfriars Bobby and Class 52 D1035 Western Yeoman.
Amongst the staff on duty is photographer John King. (The figure at the rear, near the wall.) He has been given a Yard Pass to photograph locomotives.
SeeYou190 I was providing some product and modelling information to Dave with my response, let's not go any further in this direction unless David leads us that way. -Kevin
I was providing some product and modelling information to Dave with my response, let's not go any further in this direction unless David leads us that way.
-Kevin
As interesting as it is and my father being in a Tank Regiment, I shall continue painting some figures.
OK, no need to hijack David's thread with a bunch of nonsense about Fireflys and Easy-8s.
Living the dream.