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Leeds Sovereign Street & Clarence Dock - a UK based layout

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:44 AM

Many here in the U.K.  know I run steam locomotives in a timeframe 1914/1919   and diesels  in a timeframe  late 1960s/early70s.

Off course it is my railroad  and sometimes a daft half hour happens.

 

Back when it all started.

 

'Rocket' arriving at Roseville Station.

 

 IMG_1944 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

and leaving the station

 

 IMG_1945 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Even if you run trains seriously,  have fun with it.  Big Smile

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:31 AM

Thank you for your kind words again, TF.  They are much appreciated.  It is a layout that tries to be different to others I have seen.   A layout that is  fun to build and  operate.

 

On another thread I said I would post scenes of around Charlie Marston's Yard.

 

It is the late 1960s early 1970s when people wanted to buy old locomotives and try to preserve them.

Prospective buyers are negotiating with Charlie on a possible purchase.

 

 IMG_1934 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Meanwhile,  work commences in the yard.

 

 IMG_1936 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

 IMG_1937 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

 IMG_1939 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:21 AM

Good morning

As I've said before in WPF, I always appreciate the uniqueness of your over the pond layout photos DavidBow

I enjoyed checking out the more current photos I haven't seen yet over coffee this morningYes

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, January 24, 2022 6:17 PM

hon30critter

I love the scenes David!

The background painting is extremely good. Did you do that?

Dave    

 

Thank you Dave for your kind comments.

Yes I did the background painting.   It helped on my recovery from a minor stroke I had a ittle while back.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, January 24, 2022 2:52 PM

I love the scenes David!

The background painting is extremely good. Did you do that?

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, January 23, 2022 9:20 AM

Two panoramic views of the layout.

 

The 45t crane is out on a job, passing the Junction

 

 IMG_1969 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Overall view of Crown Point Yard

 

 IMG_1972 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, January 21, 2022 12:28 PM

Pruitt

David,

That "after the rain" shot looks like a greasy place to be!

 

 
 
Mark   Thank you for your kind comment.  It is much appreciated. 
 The real Clarence Dock became very neglected,  so dark and dismal  after the railways left and the dock unused.
Now it is totally regenerated  with  a new name of Leeds Dock,  apartments, cafes etc..  There are pleasure craft tavelling from Leeds Dock  up  the canal and River Aire.   The place to live and be seen.
 
 
Douglas.   I like to model things not normally seen on layouts.
 
After the rain was great fun to do  -   pieces of thin, clear plastic over clear varnish for the puddles..   Patches of varnish on the ground giving wet and dry ground.
 
As for the Angels? Not seen any  - yet!
 
 
One of the first scenes I made of puddles.
 
 
 
Sun shining on another day.
 
 
 IMG_5898 by David Harrison, on Flickr
 
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Posted by PM Railfan on Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:59 PM

I personally like the reflection in that puddle. Though i still have to toss ya a few cudos on the salvage yard scene. It is a love/hate kinda scene. Ya hate to see steamers in that condition in such a place, yet you did the scene so well i love it!

Now the tricky light thru yonder window picture at top of this page, all thats missing there is 1000 harking angels. That would probably be a good thread to start - train photos that turned out unexpected!

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Posted by Pruitt on Thursday, January 20, 2022 4:58 PM

David,

That "after the rain" shot looks like a greasy place to be!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:33 PM

I have been working on the signalling  today,  then trying out the camera on my phone.

 

Class 47  47711  'Greyfriars Bobby'  on a two carriage local  Leeds Central to York arriving Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

 IMG_1932 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

End of the line at Clarence Dock - 1915.    After the rain with puddles./

 

 IMG_1933 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:52 AM

The layout is a secondary routing   out of Leeds Central and the main trains operating are local ones going to and coming from surrounding towns.

Whenever I feel like it I can operate diverted main line trains.  Thus giving variety  and believability as it did actually happen in real life on secondary routes.

 

Here is one such train.  Class 55  D9014  'The Duke of Wellington's Regiment'  on a diverted Edinburgh to Leeds Central  'North Briton'  Pullman Service.  It is passing Leeds Sovereign street Station.

 

 IMG_5916 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Being a secondary route it means freight trains use it more,  giving relief on the Main Line for faster trains.

Here is Class 25  25237  on a Northbound freight to Leeds New Station Goods Yard.  It is near The Calls Junction.

 

 IMG_5918 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

By keeping a believable history of a railroad and mixing a lot of actual fact and a little fiction.  A living model railroad grows.

 

Adding little scenes that have nothing to do with railroading  ------

 

Jimmy Rickleton is working on some machine he has just purchased.  Perhaps he should spend some time cutting back the bushes.   Maybe he is like me in liking the overgrown look.  Smile

 

 IMG_5902 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, January 15, 2022 12:16 PM

The signal box controlling  Clarence Dock Goods Yard.

 IMG_5911 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

The fog is sweeping in.

 

 IMG_5920 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:19 PM

What is nicer when the scenery is done, than running trains.

First train of the day.  A Wakefield Kirkgate to Leeds Central DMU

At the Junction.

 

 IMG_5893 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

It is only a glimpse as it passes Charlie Marston's Yard. 

 

  IMG_5894 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

A little snow is lingering at Leeds Sovereign Street Station.  Is there more to come?

 

 IMG_5895 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 5:32 AM

A slightly new look to the backscene and scenery at the Junction.

 

A Leeds Central to Dewsbury Market Place DMU waits at the signal

 

 IMG_5873 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

and passing the Junction.

 

 IMG_5871 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Overall view from the control area looking towards Charlie Marston's Yard and beyond.

 

 IMG_5875 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:49 AM

In my last post I mentioned the light coming in the window plays tricks.

Photographs taken about 1215pm  U.K.  time today.  No  altering of pictures whatsoever.

 

 

 

 

Good fun though!

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, January 2, 2022 5:26 AM

hon30critter

Hi David,

I don't think that there is anything that turns me off more than faded, dusty scenery 

Dave   

 

Thank you Dave for your comments.  They are much appreciated.

I do like to 'sruce up' the layout every so often.   'New trees and plants  growing'  just like real life.   I then have the same scene  looking different.

 

As for lighting?  It is generally poor.  I am too old to start renewing the electrics.   Having said that;  many a time the light coming in through the window plays many a trick.  Tricks I like.  Big Smile

 

Now I am off to sort out the scenery.  Will post pictures later.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:16 PM

NorthBrit
Some of the scenery on the layout is rather old and beginning to look tired and jaded. 

Hi David,

I don't think that there is anything that turns me off more than faded, dusty scenery (that and dusty rolling stock!). One thing I will have to do is change the lighting in my garage where the layout is. It is currently all florescent lighting and I know that it will fade the scenery if I don't change it. LEDs it will be!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, December 31, 2021 6:15 AM

Not much going on  at Leeds Sovereign Street.   I did manage to clear out old items of scenery I thought I would use in the future.  They were beginning to clutter the place.

Some of the scenery on the layout is rather old and beginning to look tired and jaded.   A  pleasant job to do in the New Year.

 

Leeds Sovereign Street Station

 IMG_5865 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

and near the Junction.   Tired and jaded.

 

 IMG_5866 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 27, 2021 5:32 AM

hon30critter

Hi David,

Thanks for explaining what you did to convert the carriage to a Director's Saloon. I had looked at your before and after pictures on the other thread but with my limited observation skills the only difference that I noticed were the running boards. Obviously there was much more to it.

Cheers!!

Dave  

 

Dave.   There are many variations of Director's Saloons.  Nearly every Railway Company had one.   Depending on how wealthy a Company was depended on how 'grand' it was.   

Everyone I have seen  has been a brown color.  Finding a suitable 'donor' carriage  was not easy.  The one I was after  was a popular model and quickly sold out.  Eventually I found one in a store and purchased it.

My daughter saw it and took it away.  "It's your Christmas present,"  she said.

 

The conversion was easy to do.  Nothing complicated.   Definitely something different on the layout.  Forum colleagues on a U.K. site I am on are 'pinching the idea'.   Big Smile

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, December 27, 2021 12:15 AM

Hi David,

Thanks for explaining what you did to convert the carriage to a Director's Saloon. I had looked at your before and after pictures on the other thread but with my limited observation skills the only difference that I noticed were the running boards. Obviously there was much more to it.

Cheers!!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, December 26, 2021 10:54 AM

Merry Christmas everyone.

 

In years past a number of Railway  Companies had carriages made specially for the Directors' of the Company. 

A Director's Saloon  seen at 'Locomotion',  Shildon,  County Durham.

 

 

I have always wanted one,  but none are commecially available.   Therefore I have had to make one.  A simple way is to alter a commercially available  carriage.

 

A four wheeled carriage  from a Christmas present.

 

 

Director's Saloons come in various guises.   With my donor carriage I dismantled the body from the chassis.  Removed the seating  and plastic windows.  I then cut away the supports for three windows  and filed them level with the body.

Some decals were removed.  New plastic windows inserted.

The seating was altered to open plan.  The parts reassembled,  New footboards added.   One Director's Saloon.   Total time to do conversion.   Less than one hour.

 

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, December 19, 2021 6:45 AM

Thanks Dave.    All we did was put some Christmas  multi-colored lights up and she played around with the control buttons until she had the color she liked.

Then asked to switch off the room lights.  "It's nighttime,"  she said.

Simple really.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, December 18, 2021 10:58 PM

NorthBrit
Our five year old granddaughter is staying here for the weekend. She played around with the lighting at  Leeds Sovereign Street Station. "You have to use your imagination,"  she said.

Hi David,

I think your granddaughter is very creative!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, December 18, 2021 4:34 AM

Our five year old granddaughter is staying here for the weekend.

She played around with the lighting at  Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

"You have to use your imagination,"  she said.

 

 

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, December 15, 2021 12:29 PM

Track fiddler

As always, great layout scenes David.  Those buildings you do look just as old as the freight carsYes

I would have to say I think most of those UK freight cars had more character than many of the older ones we had over here.  I had mentioned that to Ulrich a time or two as well Back-in-the Day.

 TF  

 

Thank you for the kind comments, TF.  They are much appreciated.

The buildings at the real Leeds Sovereign Street in the 1950s/early 60s  were old and dark forboding ones; not helped by the dismal  street lighting.  Smoke from the chimneys added to the gloominess.

Being a lad of seven years of age making my way to Sovereign Street to go to Dewsbury (every weekend almost) I was captivated by the overall 'darkness' that enveloped me.  It frightens me now thinking about it;  the fact I wasn't frightened at all, then.

Now Sovereign Street is a  up and coming place  to live.  Bright lights, apartments,  cafe's  and restaurants.  Not for me.  No room to run trains.  Sad

 

As for freight cars;   the variety before The Great War was huge.  Many, many  Private Owner Companies had their own  and the Companies on my layout are no exception.   

Private Owner cars (not owned by a Railroad Company)  were very common up to around 1948.   This gives variety to model layouts in a timescale before that.  

Here am I saying this and am envious of the variety of boxcars, hoppers etc.  your side of the pond.  Big Smile

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:48 AM

As always, great layout scenes David.  Those buildings you do look just as old as the freight carsYes

I would have to say I think most of those UK freight cars had more character than many of the older ones we had over here.  I had mentioned that to Ulrich a time or two as well Back-in-the Day.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, December 15, 2021 7:11 AM

In the 1920s you could put your car  in a boxvan  and it would travel with you to your destination.

Here is a London & North Western Railway Motor Car Van (original)  built late 1919,  model 1920 vintage  on a modern wheelbase.

 

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, December 11, 2021 3:20 PM

At Clarence Dock I put old railway sleepers forming the dock wall.  This was in case any grandchildren broke them the sleepers were easy to replace.  As I am the only one to break them  it is time to replace them.

New dock wall at Clarence Dock in keeping with the real Clarence Dock.

 

Victorian stone paving was the only thing I found that looked right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, November 25, 2021 6:19 AM

A cold Winter's morning.   Class 25   25237   with a train of empty cattle trucks  passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

 

The same train on its way north to Wetherby.  Charlie Marston's Yard on the right.

 

 

The trucks have all been 'weathered'  using Dawn's old make-up powders she didn't use. I have nearly used them up.  I hope she has some more. Whistling

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 1:52 PM

Trains in the scenery.

There are many times in real life I know there is a train,  but can hardly see it?

Translate that to a model railway.

I know the Leeds Central to Dewsbury Market place DMU  is there.

 

Passing Crown Point Yard  looking from Roseville School.

 

 

Passing Ash Farm Lake  (behind the houses.)

 

 

At the signals behind Charlie Marston's Yard

 

 

Keep it fun.   Thanks for looking.

 

David

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