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Version 5 of The CB&Q in Wyoming

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:10 PM

The superelevation looks great.  Well worth the effort you put in doing it.  Your videos are always entertaining and informative.

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:00 AM

NorthBrit

Excellent, Mark.  Bow The real Shobon doesn't look as good.  Laugh 

David 

Doggone it, David, I was about to say the same thing.  Super Angry

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:04 AM

Excellent, Mark.  Bow The real Shobon doesn't look as good.  Laugh

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 8:46 AM

hon30critter
Hi Mark,

I'm beginning to repeat myself, but your progress is amazing!!

Dave

Thanks Dave!

23 November 2021

I posted a short video on the first trains on the newly laid tracks through the Shobon turnout yesterday...

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, November 19, 2021 12:20 AM

Hi Mark,

I'm beginning to repeat myself, but your progress is amazing!!

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Thursday, November 18, 2021 10:56 PM

[EDIT] Well this is weird. All the images are showing up as broken links in the thread, but if you click on them the picture opens up just fine. It wasn't doing this yesterday, but now the entire thread is like that. Is anyone else seeing this? Any ideas as to why?

18 November 2021

The last nine days I've been busy working mostly on the Wind River Canyon side of the new peninsula.

I've installed subroadbed for the CNW line through the turnback curve at the end of the peninsula and part of the way back towards the far wall. Roadbed also is going in. In this shot, taken a coule days ago, the roadbed has almost reached the turnback curve.

The roadbed has now been extended around the curve.

I also started laying track for the CNW line. It starts out at the Shobon turnout with Peco code 70, and after it goes through the first curve and is out of sight it switches to Atlas code 100, of which I have a healthy overabundance (as in nearly eight scale miles of overabundance!). Here's the Shobon turnout and the CNW line going off on the diverging route.

Here's the transition point from the Peco code 70 (on the right) to the Atlas code 100. This was pretty easy to do. I was wondering if I'd have to go through a double transition, from 70 to 83 to 100, but it wasn't necessary. The test train runs over this just fine.

After adding feeders to the new track, of course I had to run a train over it! Here's a short train at the Shobon switch:

And here it is partway up the hill. The loco had no problem at all with the grade. BTW, the track looks squigglier than it really is because of the camera's position. I'm only worried about functionality of the track here, since all this will be hidden (someday).

And today I started plotting out the alignment for the visible Burlington track through the Canyon. The curves the rulers are clamped to are 70" radius.

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:11 PM

You sir have all the right ideas, I love your creativity.

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 2:27 PM

9 November 2021

The last few days I've been busy building the rest of the Wind River Canyon / Thermopolis benchwork.

In all the shots above, the canyon, with benchwork-to-ceiling scenery, will be on the left side. Thermopolis will be on the right.

Here's a view looking the other way from the Shobon end. It shows how the peninsula fits in with Casper. Closest point is the curve around the roundhouse. There will be about 28 inches of aisleway there.

There something innately wrong with clean benchwork, isn't there? I'm going to have to hurry up and start adding track!

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Posted by Pruitt on Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:55 AM

Hi Dave,

And thanks!

I do cut the strips myself. I get my wife to help me put the plywood onto a couple of 2X4's on saw horses, then use a Kreg circular saw jig to cut all the strips to the exact same size. After that they're easy to handle!

I know what you mean about times changing. I'm finding that my ability to move heavy things isn't too impacted as I age, but everything protests a lot louder for a couple days afterwards.

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, November 3, 2021 9:58 PM

Hi Mark,

Another great video and lots more progress! I appreciated the part on laying cork for the turnout. That will be part of my next step on my layout (that is - whenever I get the gumption to go back to work on it). I have never done it before. You made it look quite easy.

Do you cut your own plywood strips? I couldn't handle a 4 x 8 sheet of 3/4" plywood these days if my life depended on it. I used to pick up 4 cyl. engines! My how times have changed.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:01 PM

3 November 2021

I just uploaded my latest layout update video on YouTube:

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Posted by Pruitt on Thursday, October 28, 2021 9:13 PM

28 October 2021

Work is progressing. I extended the subroadbed past Powder River and towards Shobon, transitioning from foam to 1/2" plywood subroadbed.

My friend Nate also finished weathering an additional three steamers. Here's my newly aged Santa Fe type. I added a layer of Bragdon's weathering chalks - dark browns - to dust up the loco a bit more.

I also built the first section of benchwork for the Wind River Canyon and Thermopolis. There's something exciting about pristine new benchwork just waiting for more railroad, isn't there?

Here's a plan view of the benchwork for the entire peninsula. The section in the photo above is on the right - the roughly 89 inch long section.

Finally, today I finished laying the Powder River siding. It's long enough to hold eight stock cars. That should provide for a decent sized set of stock pens, and also make small but not ridiculously short trains.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:20 AM

Looking good, Mark.    The 'train of cans'  is rather unique.  Laugh

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:24 PM

20 October 2021

I was out of town for most of the last two weeks, but I did manage to get a few things done before I left, and after our return Monday night.

More foam subroadbed went down, and late October 9th I placed roadbed leading from Casper and into Powder River siding.

Yesterday I laid the track...

...and today I wired it up and ran one of the Casper switchers out and back with a boxcar in tow to test the new alignment.

Seems fine to this point!

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 7:59 AM

SpaceMouse
Well, it only took 8 hours, but I got caught up on your last year of posts and videos. My only consolation is that it took more hours for you to make your videos than it did for me to watch them--not that was a great chore or anything. I actually enjoyed the journey.

It almost made up for the lack of progress on my own layout--almost.

Good work. I look forward to see more--albeit in smaller chunks.

LOL!

Thanks for the kind words, Chip! I hope you managed to get some decent rest watching all those videos. They're a good cure for insomnia!

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:03 PM

Well, it only took 8 hours, but I got caught up on your last year of posts and videos. My only consolation is that it took more hours for you to make your videos than it did for me to watch them--not that was a great chore or anything. I actually enjoyed the journey.

It almost made up for the lack of progress on my own layout--almost.

Good work. I look forward to see more--albeit in smaller chunks. 

 

Chip

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:20 AM

Thanks Dave, Ed and Bear!

Ed, you should post pictures of that block structure when you get it done. I'd like to see how using screws works to put it "in" the scenery.

9 October 2021

I've started building the area into Powder River. The skyboard went in a couple days ago. Splicing in the new section was bit tricky, but I got it done:

Here it is after smoothing the splices and refreshing the paint. The paint's still wet in this shot.

And in the last couple of days I've extended the pink foam subroadbed a bit and installed some new cork roadbed.

In this "aerial" view you can see the new roadbed curving off to the right, and you can also see how it used to curve to the left behind the roundhouse when Casper was part of version 4 of the layout in New Jersey.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:18 AM
Gidday Mark, the latest video update can’t have been to long, as neither Her-in Doors and I were bored after viewing. Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed in an enjoyable to watch manner.
 
Cheers, the Bear, and Her-in-Doors. SmileSmile

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, October 3, 2021 3:01 PM

Yup, it wasn't too long--moved right along, as they say.  Good work!

With rare exception, when I place a building on scenery, I build a foundation in position into the scenery, and make the rest of the building a lift-off.  Most buildings have the siding go down a bit past the foundtion top, and that covers the joint between the two.  That solves the problem of any small gap between the foundation and the structure.

I've got an upcoming building made with concrete blocks on a slab that I have to solve, though.  Probably use screws from below to draw it down onto the slab.

I don't look forward to my first "multi-legged" loading dock.

 

 

Ed

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, October 3, 2021 1:52 PM

Hi Mark,

Good video. I don't think it was too long. There was lots to cover and I think it was edited quite well.

You make me feel guilty. You make so much progress in a month and I make so little!Embarrassed

Cheers,

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Sunday, October 3, 2021 8:28 AM

Tin Can II, I'm glad you're enjoying my videos. Hopefully they're helpful in some way.

Bear, always the comedian! I guess I destroyed the ambiance when I cleaned the fascia!

Dave, it's interesting that my videos are popping up in unexpected places. Considering that the Astin Martin video was probbly professionally created, it isn't surprising that my amateur production doesn't "grab" in that same way.

3 October 2021

I just posted my latest layout update video:

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 2:18 AM

Hey Mark!

I just wanted to let you know that your excellent videos are 'out there'. I was watching a video of a James Bond Aston Martin being driven by the movies stunt driver and three Grand Prix leading drivers. When it was over up popped your video from August 31, 2021.

I shouldn't try to compare the two videos. All I can say is that your videos aren't quite as heart pounding as when the F1 drivers lost control trying to drift the car and nearly rammed into the track barriers!

Dave

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:39 AM

Facia by Bear, on Flickr

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Posted by Tin Can II on Friday, September 24, 2021 9:26 AM

Mark:

Wow.  Just Wow.  Thank you for posting your videos and how to's.  

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:19 PM

Thanks Dave!

23 September 2021

Work has continued on what I've started calling "cornfield corner."

Yesterday I added the rest of the dead vegetation - oregano leaves. The layout smells pretty nice for about a day after I do that! I also added some small bushes around the periphery of the fields.

Today I added static grass and some weeds. Here's the result:

I still need to spray on an overall fixative (very diluted Mod Podge, I'm thinking) to keep the bushes from deteriorating and spreading all over the place. I also want to add a couple of 3-D versions of the scraggly trees you see in the foreground of the backdrop. Making those will involve using an old wallpaper paste brush and a variety of ground foam.

I probably won't make and install those trees immediately, though. Tomorrow I'm going to prep Casper to be moved permanently back into the corner. Then over the weekend I'm going to hopefully start extending the benchwork towards Powder River. Woo-Hoo!!

Boy, that fascia sure needs cleaned, doesn't it?

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:15 AM

Pruitt
I know it doesn't resemble corn all that much, but the colors are close to those on the backdrop, and you won't be able to get as close to this in person as the camera is in this shot. So what the heck - it's good enough for what it is (I hope).

Hi Mark,

I think that the colour blending is done really well! I don't think it matters one bit the there are no actual corn stalks in the forefront. In fact, personally I find that most modelled corn fields look too sparse to be realistic. The viewer's eye will be focused even better on the trains because they will not be distracted by fake corn stocks that look like they are planted too far apart. This is a 'less is more' situation IMHO and you have done a good job of it.

Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:55 AM

Heaven forbid that the Bear dare to eversully Mel’s sterling contributions to the Forum, and then query Dave’s memory, but I suggest that the lighting thread mentioned is Mike Lehman’s Night Scene.

Hi Bear,

You are correct! Thank you for fixing my mistake.

By the way, I question my memory every day so feel free to chime in! I need all the help I can get!

Apologies to Mike Lehman for not giving credit where due.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:11 AM
Heaven forbid that the Bear dare to ever sully Mel’s sterling contributions to the Forum, and then query Dave’s memory, but I suggest that the lighting thread mentioned is Mike Lehman’s Night Scene.
 
 
I have been wrong before, I think?
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:25 AM

21 September 2021

After a hiatus from actual layout work for a few weeks to test out cab ride video cameras and clean up (and clean out) the train room, I'm back at it.

By clean out I mean I removed nearly all the non-train stuff from the room. There used to be a lot of boxes of books and other stuff filling about a third of the room - check out the background of this picture:

That's all gone and the room is mostly clean (except the tables and shelves). Here's what the room looks like now, taken from behind Casper yard:

That's a lot of room for new benchwork! 

Where did all those boxes, which were mostly books, go? Into the newly completed library, of course!

(my wife was hiding from the camera). Note all those Model Railroader binders on the lower left shelves. Most of the clutter on the table is also MRs that don't have a binder to call home yet (I have a batch of binders on order, and will need many more).

Back to the trains - 

Now I'm in the middle of doing the last bit of scenery in the corner of the Chicago and North Western line from Riverton to Hudson. Once that corner is done, I'll be able to move Casper back into its permanent location in the corner and start building mainline out of both ends of the yard. I'm looking forward to that! Big Smile

So here's a bit of work I did on the CNW line today. I added static grass and other weeds and such to the line leading into the corner towards Hudson:

For a couple days before that I was working IN the corner, adding painted polyfiber "corn" to either side of the track. Just the polyfiber with fine ground foam on top looks like this:

And I just started adding ground-level dead vegetation around the base at the east end of the fields. Glue is still wet. Grass and other weeds and some small bushes and such will also be added through this area.

Hey, I know it doesn't resemble corn all that much, but the colors are close to those on the backdrop, and you won't be able to get as close to this in person as the camera is in this shot. So what the heck - it's good enough for what it is (I hope).

Sure feels good to be working on the layout again! 

The past few days I've also started removing the over-center springs and reinstalling the ground throws. Though I got the springs to work okay for the most part, they weren't as reliable as I wanted them to be. The springs tended to pop out of the ties at one end or the other, and some of them were a bit picky about which way they were being thrown. So, with the advice of a few folks in another thread here, I've found a way that attaches the ground throws more securely to the cork and foam than I was able to accomplish before. Thanks for the help, folks!

I think by the end of the month I'll be able to reposition Casper and begin new benchwork construction towards Powder River (the right end of Casper as you're facing it). 

(huh. I just noticed that some of the emojis don't work anymore. Like the one with the party favor...)

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, September 6, 2021 5:08 PM

hon30critter
Hi Mark,

I would like to achieve the sort of night time lighting effect that RRMel has done (maybe he will post some pictures). IIRC he used blue LED strips that actually throw enough light that all of the scenery and structures can be discerned, but it still suggests a night scene.

One of my challenges will be trying to figure out how to make the overhead lighting repositionable. Eventually I want to move the layout to the other side of the garage so I will need to devise a lighting system that can be relocated on the garage ceiling. I don't think that will be too difficult. I can use some 1x2s to make frames that can be mounted to the ceiling wherever I want. The garage ceiling is finished but that won't affect anything.

Dave

I don't recall seeing any of RRMel's nighttime shots. I'd be interested.

Fortunately, I don't have to worry about repositionable lighting. The layout is where it is. If it moves again, it will be to another house altogether (or maybe just a dumpster!).

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