Garage Layout Design Contest

[vsmith]

Chip, just a thought but maybe the layouts when submitted should be done so in an east-west format, not the north-south orientation as shown on page 1, so your getting 800 w x600 h format and not 600 w x 800 h? Save some space that way.

[vsmith]

Q: If I have a 20 x 20 garage why would I chose the more restrictive side as the layout side? the car doesnt care.

Also note that choosing the right bay would require items such as groceries to be passed over/thru/or under the layout to get from the vehicle to the kitchen.

Have fun

 

My contention was that if I had a 20x20 space, which I did in real life, I would not choose the more constrictive side given what I had planned to install layout wise, I would chose the right hand bay for its clear 10 x 20 space and leave the left hand door side open for vehicle and access, thats all. In fact my current layout actually goes across the back wall of my garage, its elevated and the deck is cantelevered enough so if I park a car, theres enough room for either of our cars, which are small, to fit easily; the cars nose slips under the layout.

This is why I asked for a proviso for those of use who would like to submit our real layouts as entries. I will modify my layout to fit the 10x20 space as oriented

[exPalaceDog]

Q: If I have a 20 x 20 garage why would I chose the more restrictive side as the layout side? the car doesnt care.

Also note that choosing the right bay would require items such as groceries to be passed over/thru/or under the layout to get from the vehicle to the kitchen.

Have fun

 

[markpierce]

Oh, and as I recall, none of the doors for entering the layout/garage areas intruded into that space. If not originally designed that way, the modelers corrected the situation.

Mark

[markpierce]

Two-car garages are frequent sites for layouts in California. Every layout I've seen ignores any doors to the exterior. The only functional door is the one connecting to the house. In the San Francisco area, there are some well-done layouts based on such prototypes as the Yosemite Valley, Sierra, Western Pacific, and the SP Santa Cruz branch. You might have seen write-ups on some of these layouts in magazines over the last couple of decades.

Mark

[Don Z]

As to comment that exterior doors do not lead from living quarters to garage space,,, I say nay. I live in central Texas,,, we have a standard 3'0" entry door going from house to garage.

  With the standard entry door you have two holes pre-drilled,, one for the deadbolt and one for the rotating, or lever action handle. I like this option,, as if a bad guy broke into the garage,, he would not be able to gain easy access to my home.

  I am currently working on a garage layout,,, still drawing plans in 3rd Plan-It. Wanna look see???  drop me line.

 

  Adios Wyatt

Wyatt,

You need to reread my post. I wasn't talking about the door leading into the house, which my garage also has. It's the theory that there would be a walk through exterior door from the garage out to the great outdoors.

Don Z.

[gandydancer19]

Well, my garage is for three cars but we use it for hobby, work shop, and storage space, and don't have the large garage doors.  My layout share is 9'6" x 24'.  I am planning to submit my plan anyway.  If it gets rejected, so be it.

[SpaceMouse]

Yes, I changed it in the first post.  

[chadw]

Okay take out the doors.

So, does this apply for everyone?  Is the contest now 10x20 with the entry as the left side?

[SOO_N Scaler]

As to comment that exterior doors do not lead from living quarters to garage space,,, I say nay. I live in central Texas,,, we have a standard 3'0" entry door going from house to garage.

  With the standard entry door you have two holes pre-drilled,, one for the deadbolt and one for the rotating, or lever action handle. I like this option,, as if a bad guy broke into the garage,, he would not be able to gain easy access to my home.

  I am currently working on a garage layout,,, still drawing plans in 3rd Plan-It. Wanna look see???  drop me line.

 

  Adios Wyatt

[SpaceMouse]

Might be state by state. I don't have one in PA but they were in every garage in California.

[Don Z]

I wonder if that's a "Up North" habit....I live in a subdivision with 550 homes, all built in the last 10 years and not a single one has an exterior door in the garage, other than the overhead door.

Don Z.

[Lateral-G]

Is this a detached garage? I've never seen an exterior door into a garage that was attached to a house....other than the overhead door. Can access through the exterior door be blocked since there is access to the layout area from the house door?

Don Z.

 

Side garage entry doors are quite commom on attached garages. Although not a standard builders option they are put in. I specifically asked for one when we had our house built.

 

-G- 

[odave]

I think what Spacemouse means...you can have an aisle off of the left side of the layout in the car space but you can't build part of the layout there.

Ah, that makes sense.  I took the line on the left to be an exterior wall.  So there's only one vehicle that calls the garage home.   

Edit: oops, just found the answers under the "plywood" contest thread.

[vsmith]

Thanks Chip, I'll make sure to specify in my description that its a real existing space, and thats why it diverges from the rules in this regards.

[SpaceMouse]

Okay take out the doors.

[vsmith]

Q: If I have a 20 x 20 garage why would I chose the more restrictive side as the layout side? the car doesnt care.

I ask this because as is, my layout will not fit the given criteria as the door is in the way of my fiddleyard. Something I specificly avoided in my own layout construction where the access door was completely avoided.

If there is no provision for which side we can choose, I will sit this one out, I dont feel like redesigning what I already have spent a great deal of time planning and works well for me.

This is why I asked for a option for those of us intending on using our own layouts.

[chadw]

I think what Spacemouse means by "left side is 2nd car space" is that this is a 20x20 two car garage and the left half is a car space.  That means that you can have an aisle off of the left side of the layout in the car space but you can't build part of the layout there.

[Texas Zepher]

I've never seen an exterior door into a garage that was attached to a house..

Really, I've almost never seen one that isn't except on older (1960sish) houses.  What I have never seen is a door that is more than 3" - 4" from one of the walls.  I notice in MR layout contests always seem to put them 12" away (even the last MR magazine layout contest) so a small track holding shelf can be put there behind the door.

[odave]

Left side is 2nd car space  

10' wide seems pretty snug for a typical U.S. two car garage.  Mine is 21' x 21' and there's not a whole lot of room for both.  Also, what kind of vehicles need to be worked around - Hummers or Smart Cars? 

 

[Vail and Southwestern RR]

I've often seen doors like that.  Might be regional?

I wish I had twelve feet to work with!

[Don Z]

Is this a detached garage? I've never seen an exterior door into a garage that was attached to a house....other than the overhead door. Can access through the exterior door be blocked since there is access to the layout area from the house door?

Don Z.

[SpaceMouse]

Don, the exterior door swings into the garage as per code. The door to the house is drawn closed to save space.

[Don Z]

No more wimp shelves. Time to go for the gusto. Open scale. The parameters are in the diagram. The house door swings into the house. Submit in .jpg format 800 pixels wide.

Left side is 2nd car space and there is walking access.

Submit a write-up with your theme and specs. Be sure to specify your scale. Grades and curves must be consistent with equipment.

Deadline for submission: May 30th. Midnight.

You state that the house door swings into the house, but it is drawn swinging into the garage. Would you clarify please?

Don Z.

[SpaceMouse]

Who won the last one??

vsmith

[loathar]

Who won the last one??

[SpaceMouse]

No more wimp shelves. Time to go for the gusto. Open scale. The parameters are in the diagram. Ignore the doors shown. Submit in .jpg format 800 pixels wide.

Left side is 2nd car space and there is walking access.

Submit a write-up with your theme and specs. Be sure to specify your scale. Grades and curves must be consistent with equipment.

Deadline for submission: May 30th. Midnight.