concretelackey wrote: My thoughts....just call this current contest "the best in show". Since the stated room size/door location/door functionability guidelines were overlooked I'd say we vote for the best overall entry AS IS. Any future competions can be clearly outlined as far as the room requirements and each entrant would need to ask themselves if they met each one.As far as PV's suggestions on a theme based contest, if you were to state a set dollar minimum/maximum then all entrants should be required to submit prices for the items they used. This could become an accounting nightmare.
My thoughts....just call this current contest "the best in show". Since the stated room size/door location/door functionability guidelines were overlooked I'd say we vote for the best overall entry AS IS. Any future competions can be clearly outlined as far as the room requirements and each entrant would need to ask themselves if they met each one.
As far as PV's suggestions on a theme based contest, if you were to state a set dollar minimum/maximum then all entrants should be required to submit prices for the items they used. This could become an accounting nightmare.
I would LOVE a contest based on $ investment! With my semi-vast stock of stuff bought with 1960s dollars, my preference for (CHEAP!!!) hand-laid specialwork, my use of DC rather than DCC (most of my locomotives originally cost less than the decoders I'd need to convert them to DCC!) and other cheap frugal building practices, I could fill a garage or small barn for what most of my competitors would need for the present 10x12 designs. (Does that make you think it's a not-so-smart idea? I do, even with my hypothetical advantage.)
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Folks:
Somebody up there ^ mentioned a shelf layout for the next contest. That would be cool. I think it would be best to start with a table size for one of those...maybe 24" x 96".
I really like the "pick a theme" feature that is being used in the current competition.
If we were to do a "shoot the moon" contest at some time, I think we'd need a lot more time for the design-submission stage. I'm not sure if I'd submit an entry; my designs tend to be small or medium-sized. I probably would.
vsmith wrote:I got a schematic 40'x40' retairement layout sketched out somewhere...
First, to get back to the original question, if a submission violates the "rules", the Old Dog would suggest adding a text box next to the submission, quoting the "rule" that was violated. The voters then should be free to access what penality they feel is appropriate while voting.
Second, for the next contest, the Old Mutt would suggest that all the "rules" be placed in one post. Perhaps the "rules" could be passed by several reviewers by e-mail before posting to try to eliminate any ambiguities or confusion.
Third, one item that should be included in the rules are some standard for access to allow for construction, maintenance, and operation. For example, the Old Hound would reccommend that no turnout be further then say 30" from an aisle or access openning. Many of the submissions appear to have major access problems that would probably result in their early demise.
Have fun
Texas Zepher wrote: vsmith wrote:I got a schematic 40'x40' retairement layout sketched out somewhere...Doesn't everyone? Mine is AT&SF Raton Pass from Trinidad to Raton. I did it in 1970 for my "final" in 7th grade drafting class.
Los Angeles, 1940, ATSF, UP, SP, LARR and PE RRs, Downtown, Harbor, San Bernardino, Fullerton, Pasadena, even Santa Barbara are all included to one degree or another
Have fun with your trains
exPalaceDog wrote: For example, the Old Hound would reccommend that no turnout be further then say 30" from an aisle or access openning. Many of the submissions appear to have major access problems that would probably result in their early demise.Have fun
For example, the Old Hound would reccommend that no turnout be further then say 30" from an aisle or access openning. Many of the submissions appear to have major access problems that would probably result in their early demise.
Yep, I noticed that too, some had big reach issues, need 5' long arms on a couple...
The Old Dog's manifesto on layout design
exPalaceDog wrote: The Old Dog's manifesto on layout design<snip>
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xPD:
"I bring you these nineteen..." *smash and a half* "....Oy. These ten commandments."
Folks: I'm going to have to agree with whoever stated the S & PF looks like HO scale, at least partly. The tracks appear to be on 2" centers, and the 24" radius is really broad for N. Maybe it's TT.
exPalaceDog wrote: vsmith wrote:how about an Unlimited Class competition!Great ideal! ...would love to see a competition based on "If I won the lottery"
vsmith wrote:how about an Unlimited Class competition!
Since I just noticed that the one I submitted is my 12 x 12, remove it since I did not make the adjustments to the room size. I had just designed that basic layout for a co-worker to fit a 12x 12 area and forgot about the 12 x 10 or 10 x 12 room size. As the creator of the track plan, scap the submission and let the best one win, with in the guidlines of the rules supplied.
There, no more dilemmam to ponder.
Must have been distracted by my Daytona Breach and Bikini Central plan I was working on!
Sfdsmokeeater
Oh Yeah, I thought I designed it for HO Scale.
Dan M wrote: Must have been distracted by my Daytona Breach and Bikini Central plan I was working on!
Please feel free to post a copy of that plan...
I have figured out what is wrong with my brain! On the left side nothing works right, and on the right side there is nothing left!
Dave
Lackawanna Route of the Phoebe Snow
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.