Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Most reliable turnout?

10140 views
36 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    November 2002
  • From: Colorado
  • 4,075 posts
Posted by fwright on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 12:06 PM

Chuck and Chip have the right answer for the ultimate in rolling reliability.  Another advantage to rolling your own besides custom geometry and reliablility is that the wiring is your choice, not the manufacturer's.  If you need live frogs to avoid stalls and flickering lights, your make your frogs live.  If you want to avoid shorts from the backs of wheels at the points shutting down your DCC, you wire the points to the adjoining stock rails from the get go.

Final advantages to rolling your own are cost and appearance.  Cost of materials is $3-$4 at most.  And no ugly black plastic frogs or guardrails.  Just smooth-riding metal frogs with on-spec flangeways that prevent wheel drop and frog picking, and look much more like the prototype to boot.

yours in handlaid track

Fred W

  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Riverside,Ca.
  • 1,127 posts
Posted by spidge on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 11:01 PM
I always thought the Peco was the best, but now that I have many in service I know they could be better. Don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the peco but I needed DCC friendly turnouts and they are not. The only real modification in the tracking department is I install a shim in the guardrails to keep the frogs from getting picked(Simple fix and helps a lot). Also, now that I can operate the yard I have a large radius Peco where the switcher keeps grazing the point rails(oposite power) and causing a short. It does not happen often but it gets bothersome as anytime another operator runs the yard Murphy will come in and guarranty an occurance. The simple solution would be to have those rails be the same polarity. I know there is a fix but thats for another day.

John

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Rimrock, Arizona
  • 11,251 posts
Posted by SpaceMouse on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:42 PM
I'm going with Fast Tracks, much for the same reason that Chuck went with handlaid. Unlike the others, the ones you make are in guage and 100% relaible.

Chip

Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.

  • Member since
    January 2006
  • 526 posts
Posted by Mailman56701 on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:18 PM

  Kato Big Smile [:D]

  Otherwise, I prefer Peco.

"Realism is overrated"
  • Member since
    September 2007
  • 4 posts
Posted by thebikeroom on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:15 PM

Peco.

A bit more $$ than Atlas, but no motor or even ground throw needed to hold the turnout rails in proper position.

I find them much more solidly built and as a result more durable in the long run than the Atlas ones. Yet they match perfectly with Atlas C100 track.

 

K

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Southwest US
  • 12,914 posts
Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 9:30 PM

In my case, the only acceptable choice (for any application, not just hidden staging) is:

Hand laid, rails shaped with a 10" mill file, laid on wood ties with real spikes and soldered with a 325-watt Weller hand cannon.

That's what I'm using, and I challenge anyone to match my trackwork for reliability with anything they can buy in a package from an E-tailer or LHS.  Not only that; I can set up some really strange track geometry (like yard throats on sweeping curves) that simply can't be duplicated with commercial shake-the-box products.

As for Atlas - thanks to the plastic frogs, they are totally useless to me.  Some of my most-used rolling stock only picks up propulsion power from one short-wheelbase truck on each side, and the pickup doesn't span the plastic.  Switching at realistic slow speed results in a full emergency stop at every turnout.

Rolling your own turnouts isn't difficult.  Even this arthritic old coot can do it.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - on hand-laid specialwork)

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 9:09 PM
Go with the atlas
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Most reliable turnout?
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 7:26 PM

This is bound to create some lively "discussion" but what brand of HO turnouts would you choose for hidden staging tracks?  Of course, since they will be hidden, they need not be perfectly scale.  They just have to work reliably, year after year, with minimal maintenance. 

I'm thinking good-ol Atlas Mark III with maybe a curved Peco or two if my still-under-development track plan (an around-the-walls 20 x 30 plan) requires them.  Probably Code 100 Atlas flextrack in the hidden areas & 36"R curves.  And to increase the reliability factor, I plan to use the highest number frogs that I can.  Ruling equipment will be steam locos up to 2-8-8-2 and 80ft passenger cars.   Remember, this question is in regards to hidden/marginally-accessible trackage only.

I did a search on this subject but got a lot of "clutter" in return.

Thanks for your inputs,

Harvey Hartman

Houston, TX

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!