A plastic 1.20.3 K-27?

[Anonymous]

Well, one more thought: Bachmann's sold what, 5,000 shays and getting close to 5,000 climaxes i think i read. So the market is obviously out there for plastic, cheap, reliable narowgauge engines, so wouldn't a K27 be a logical next step for them?

[vsmith]

I kinda hope not. Aristo Craft would most likely make it 1:29 ( a standard guage k-27?)to match everything else they make. They havent done any narrow gauge yet. The old standard guage C-16 they made was 1:29 and looked like an amusment park loco when coupled to 1:22.5 LGB or Bachmann Passenger cars. Supposedly Aristo is re-tooling the C-16 or a future release. No idea what it will look like, hope they bump up the scale to at least 1:22.5, and your right, the new mallet is a 2-8-8-2. I guess they are making the most out of their 8-coupled mikado chassis, hence the new mallet and the new C-16.

[vsmith]

I kinda hope not. Aristo Craft would most likely make it 1:29 ( a standard guage k-27?)to match everything else they make. They havent done any narrow gauge yet. The old standard guage C-16 they made was 1:29 and looked like an amusment park loco when coupled to 1:22.5 LGB or Bachmann Passenger cars. Supposedly Aristo is re-tooling the C-16 or a future release. No idea what it will look like, hope they bump up the scale to at least 1:22.5, and your right, the new mallet is a 2-8-8-2. I guess they are making the most out of their 8-coupled mikado chassis, hence the new mallet and the new C-16.

[Anonymous]

The Aristocraft Mallet is going to be 2-8-8-2. But anyway, a 1:20.3 affordable K-27 is an untapped goldmine for the first company to make one. The sheer popularity of the locomotive is an underestimated selling point. I think Bachmanns excuse of not enough customers with wide radius curves is under researched. At least in outdoor railroading, most modelers have an 8-10ft minimum, while those who don't are makeing plans to replace their smaller curves to accomodate larger locos and elminate derailings and other problems.

The market is ripe, somebody should make one, if bachmann doesn't, an aristocraft would be nice.

[Anonymous]

The Aristocraft Mallet is going to be 2-8-8-2. But anyway, a 1:20.3 affordable K-27 is an untapped goldmine for the first company to make one. The sheer popularity of the locomotive is an underestimated selling point. I think Bachmanns excuse of not enough customers with wide radius curves is under researched. At least in outdoor railroading, most modelers have an 8-10ft minimum, while those who don't are makeing plans to replace their smaller curves to accomodate larger locos and elminate derailings and other problems.

The market is ripe, somebody should make one, if bachmann doesn't, an aristocraft would be nice.

[vsmith]

On Bachmanns "ask the Bach man" someone asked the same question about using the 2-8-0 connie as a base to do a K-27 or a K-28. The reply from Bachmann was that they would not do it simply because it would be too big for them to make and that few people would have the wide radius curves to run it on ( ? ) but that they were considering a 2-8-0 C-16 based on the same chassis.

Personally I think this story is pure BS and that they have probably already built prototypes based on the 1/2 dozen websites out there in electric-land that will show you just how easy it is to convert the little beasty. Afterall isnt AristoCraft going to produce a 2-6-6-2 Mallet? For crying out loud, what kind of turns will THAT monster need. The curves are out there, otherwise where are all these big diesel models going too? Sounds like a Big B smoke screen to me. Lets hope the "Bach Man" has a little Rio Grande surprise for us next year.

Now I would also LOVE to see a C-16 in 1:22.5 or 1:20.3 and hope they do produce that one also. I also hope that they will give us a 1:20.3 version of the Plymouth siderod critter they are doing in On30.

[vsmith]

On Bachmanns "ask the Bach man" someone asked the same question about using the 2-8-0 connie as a base to do a K-27 or a K-28. The reply from Bachmann was that they would not do it simply because it would be too big for them to make and that few people would have the wide radius curves to run it on ( ? ) but that they were considering a 2-8-0 C-16 based on the same chassis.

Personally I think this story is pure BS and that they have probably already built prototypes based on the 1/2 dozen websites out there in electric-land that will show you just how easy it is to convert the little beasty. Afterall isnt AristoCraft going to produce a 2-6-6-2 Mallet? For crying out loud, what kind of turns will THAT monster need. The curves are out there, otherwise where are all these big diesel models going too? Sounds like a Big B smoke screen to me. Lets hope the "Bach Man" has a little Rio Grande surprise for us next year.

Now I would also LOVE to see a C-16 in 1:22.5 or 1:20.3 and hope they do produce that one also. I also hope that they will give us a 1:20.3 version of the Plymouth siderod critter they are doing in On30.

[Anonymous]

I completely agree with making a plastic K-27. I would buy it in a heartbeat. Having a cool engine like that would be very popular with everyone who models narrow gauge.

[Anonymous]

I completely agree with making a plastic K-27. I would buy it in a heartbeat. Having a cool engine like that would be very popular with everyone who models narrow gauge.

[Anonymous]

I want one NOW! I agree completely with V.Smith. Give us one in 1:22.5 scale. The one that LGB did in brass a couple of years back matched the rolling stock perfectly! Give us one just like it but in the more affordable plastic version!!!!
Ted Yarbrough

[Anonymous]

I want one NOW! I agree completely with V.Smith. Give us one in 1:22.5 scale. The one that LGB did in brass a couple of years back matched the rolling stock perfectly! Give us one just like it but in the more affordable plastic version!!!!
Ted Yarbrough

[vsmith]

Of course I would like to see one, read my ranting posting regarding "what products are needed" I said there why are all the new product being geared toward 1:32/1:29 mainliners while the 1:24/1:22.5/1:20.3 narrow gaugers are getting screwed? Bachmann is the ONLY company actively making new high quality/reasonably priced products for narrow guage. I cant afford Accucrafts prices, LGB isnt any better. I am left with 3 mfrs to chose from Bachmann, HLW, and MDC. MDC only run production when they feal like it (and only 1 loco?). I like HLW as a company but their locos are really toylike for the prices they charge (2-4-0, 2-4-4,4-4-0), that just leaves the Big B for affordable high quality locos. If these other companies arent carefull they could put themselves right out of business by the shear inertia of their unchangability.

[vsmith]

Of course I would like to see one, read my ranting posting regarding "what products are needed" I said there why are all the new product being geared toward 1:32/1:29 mainliners while the 1:24/1:22.5/1:20.3 narrow gaugers are getting screwed? Bachmann is the ONLY company actively making new high quality/reasonably priced products for narrow guage. I cant afford Accucrafts prices, LGB isnt any better. I am left with 3 mfrs to chose from Bachmann, HLW, and MDC. MDC only run production when they feal like it (and only 1 loco?). I like HLW as a company but their locos are really toylike for the prices they charge (2-4-0, 2-4-4,4-4-0), that just leaves the Big B for affordable high quality locos. If these other companies arent carefull they could put themselves right out of business by the shear inertia of their unchangability.

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