What do you guys think about this Ebay auction?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lionel-Santa-Fe-Spirit-of-76-Comm-Diesel-Train-2389-NR_W0QQitemZ130113476661QQihZ003QQcategoryZ4147QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I don't recall ever reading that Lionel made a Spirit of 76 Commerative diesel decorated for Santa Fe. Heck, it doesn't have any sort of marking to indicate that it is a '76 piece.
Perhaps it's not in it's orginal box after all?
Dave Farquhar wrote:...I don't get worked up anymore when I see an overpriced Lionel train. Two weekends ago when I saw the priceless DC-powered Lionel 8602 locomotive with a loop of track and a few O27 cars marked for $95, I didn't say anything. It's probably worth 1/3 the price. But telling them that probably would only offend the seller. Maybe they found a sucker after I left, or maybe they got stuck with it. It doesn't matter to me; I have that very locomotive and the rest of the set, in original box, in my basement. I paid $10 for it last summer. Maybe a little low.I just jump at the good deals and don't let the rip-offs bother me. Probably the people are ignorant, but there are plenty of other people ready and willing to argue with them about the price. There's no reason for me to waste my time doing that--unless it's something I really want and have been looking for a long time, then maybe it's worth talking about, but only maybe. I'm better off looking for the next deal.
...I don't get worked up anymore when I see an overpriced Lionel train. Two weekends ago when I saw the priceless DC-powered Lionel 8602 locomotive with a loop of track and a few O27 cars marked for $95, I didn't say anything. It's probably worth 1/3 the price. But telling them that probably would only offend the seller. Maybe they found a sucker after I left, or maybe they got stuck with it. It doesn't matter to me; I have that very locomotive and the rest of the set, in original box, in my basement. I paid $10 for it last summer. Maybe a little low.
I just jump at the good deals and don't let the rip-offs bother me. Probably the people are ignorant, but there are plenty of other people ready and willing to argue with them about the price. There's no reason for me to waste my time doing that--unless it's something I really want and have been looking for a long time, then maybe it's worth talking about, but only maybe. I'm better off looking for the next deal.
I'm always looking for a good deal. Below is a photo of my $29.00 2056 w/ 2046 tender.It's not a repaint, but the tender shell is a repro. I'm interested in trading it straight up for a pair of excellent 2343s or a high grade 726 w/2426 tender.
Jim
Modeling the Baltimore waterfront in HO scale
trainsandmusic wrote: My question is for some of the Ebay sellers on this board. Would this seller have to pay Ebay a set price for his buy it now price regardless of weather he sells it or not. It would seem that way according to some of the posters.
My question is for some of the Ebay sellers on this board. Would this seller have to pay Ebay a set price for his buy it now price regardless of weather he sells it or not. It would seem that way according to some of the posters.
Yes. Setting a buy-it-now price on an item is an extra cost that's tacked onto the listing fee, which you pay whether the item sells or not. The same for reserve price. I believe the higher you set it, the more you pay.
But if you have something that you believe is worth between, say, $2,000 and $10,000, a seller will probably believe it's worth paying that listing fee to try to get closer to the higher figure, even if it means re-listing it a few times, and the reserve is used to keep it from selling for $1.57 or $100. A very confident seller will set the starting bid low with no reserve, and will argue that the resulting final price will be higher. But the advocates for both approaches (start at $0.01 or $0.99 with no reserve versus putting a high reserve on the item) will argue, very passionately, about which is the better approach to take.
ReadingT1,
You would do good at selling Eskimo's freezer units!
If you need some help filling your basement with cement I know somebody at Berks Products on route 222 just north of Reading.
FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a once in a lifetime chance for you to purchase the READING T-1 screen name for use on www.trains/forum. This screen name has bin used VERY LITTLE (under 20 posts) and is a great deal at only $2999.00 Hurry at this price it won't last long. Please include $29.95 for shipping and handling.
LS1Heli wrote: If you look at the 3 horrible pictures this indvidual provided, there is no way that this going to sell.
If you look at the 3 horrible pictures this indvidual provided, there is no way that this going to sell.
That depends on what the reserve is, doesn't it, not to mention whether some buyer is as silly as the seller?
Allan Miller wrote:I never have been able to understand why folks on various forums feel compelled to make a big deal out of such things
Because it's asinine- thats why.
I watch 700Es ALL the time and generally the ones that are C7-C8 condition w/o boxes and w/o the walnut board go for $3,500 to $5,500 as long as they have a)25 supersized pictures and b)25 questions from the buyer that are answered thoroughly. Also depends on the time of the year, ending time of the listing and other variables.
A 763E C8 condition with original boxes in comparble condition just sold for $3,500 on eBay last weekend.
There was a MINT 100% UNUSED 700E that was on eBay that sold for $101,000 about 2 years ago.
For some reason I thought he was selling for $100,00, it is $10,000. Once again i must think before I type.
One scenario is his wife told him to get rid of his car and trains, two things a man should never have to give up. He decided if noone buys them he can keep them. Not a bad plan, huh?
Yes, I believe a mint example of the 700E went for 100,000, but that was for a mint example if I remember right. He is probably hoping to match. However his example is not mint and I am sure that at least the tender is repainted, either that or this is a 700K. I believe that is the correct number for the hudsons in kit form.
Bob Nelson
lionroar88 wrote:Allan,To simply put a $10,000.00 price tag on an item that isn't work $100.00 to the knowing person, is again nuts.
If that's a 700E, and I haven't looked hard at the pics--it's worth a LOT more than $100 (and a "knowing person" would know that). Even if it is junk--and that one isn't. It's worth more than $100 even if it's an 0700e. Not $10,000, though the 700E has sold for more than that in the right condition.
IOW, this guy has heard that this same engine has sold for more than $10,000, so he's figuring to match previous performance. e's probably not going to, of course, but he at least has reason to think he can.
Allan Miller wrote: The seller of an item can ask anything he cares to ask for that item. Everyone--train hobbyist or not--already knows that, or certainly should. The potential buyer of an item can offer or pay anything he cares to for that item. If he hasn't done his homework regarding its general market value, that's his problem.I never have been able to understand why folks on various forums feel compelled to make a big deal out of such things (which are very commonplace on eBay). I suppose they figure they're "warning" their fellow hobbyists, but anyone actively participating on a toy train forum shouldn't need any "warnings" about such stuff unless he's a complete moron.
The seller of an item can ask anything he cares to ask for that item. Everyone--train hobbyist or not--already knows that, or certainly should.
The potential buyer of an item can offer or pay anything he cares to for that item. If he hasn't done his homework regarding its general market value, that's his problem.
I never have been able to understand why folks on various forums feel compelled to make a big deal out of such things (which are very commonplace on eBay). I suppose they figure they're "warning" their fellow hobbyists, but anyone actively participating on a toy train forum shouldn't need any "warnings" about such stuff unless he's a complete moron.
gives us something to do i guess...lol...
btw not everyone who is in the hobby knows everything about it..thats why were here to learn and grow...
Life's hard, even harder if your stupid John Wayne
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Dave Farquhar wrote: lionroar88 wrote: Some EBay sellers are getting out of hand... I understand this is a free market, but people like this are just plain wrong. Putting a $10,000 buy-it-now on this is giving people with an untrained eye, or little knowledge of the hobby and collecting, a bad impression. That guy a couple days ago with the poor condition pre-war set probably sees something like this and that is what makes him think his junk is worth solid platinum.I think when it doesn't sell people will get the idea it isn't worth 10 grand. Rule #1 in selling is that if you don't know what something is worth, shoot high, because you can always lower your price if it doesn't sell, but you can't raise it if it doesn't.I don't get worked up anymore when I see an overpriced Lionel train. Two weekends ago when I saw the priceless DC-powered Lionel 8602 locomotive with a loop of track and a few O27 cars marked for $95, I didn't say anything. It's probably worth 1/3 the price. But telling them that probably would only offend the seller. Maybe they found a sucker after I left, or maybe they got stuck with it. It doesn't matter to me; I have that very locomotive and the rest of the set, in original box, in my basement. I paid $10 for it last summer. Maybe a little low.I just jump at the good deals and don't let the rip-offs bother me. Probably the people are ignorant, but there are plenty of other people ready and willing to argue with them about the price. There's no reason for me to waste my time doing that--unless it's something I really want and have been looking for a long time, then maybe it's worth talking about, but only maybe. I'm better off looking for the next deal.
lionroar88 wrote: Some EBay sellers are getting out of hand... I understand this is a free market, but people like this are just plain wrong. Putting a $10,000 buy-it-now on this is giving people with an untrained eye, or little knowledge of the hobby and collecting, a bad impression. That guy a couple days ago with the poor condition pre-war set probably sees something like this and that is what makes him think his junk is worth solid platinum.
Some EBay sellers are getting out of hand... I understand this is a free market, but people like this are just plain wrong. Putting a $10,000 buy-it-now on this is giving people with an untrained eye, or little knowledge of the hobby and collecting, a bad impression. That guy a couple days ago with the poor condition pre-war set probably sees something like this and that is what makes him think his junk is worth solid platinum.
I think when it doesn't sell people will get the idea it isn't worth 10 grand. Rule #1 in selling is that if you don't know what something is worth, shoot high, because you can always lower your price if it doesn't sell, but you can't raise it if it doesn't.
I don't get worked up anymore when I see an overpriced Lionel train. Two weekends ago when I saw the priceless DC-powered Lionel 8602 locomotive with a loop of track and a few O27 cars marked for $95, I didn't say anything. It's probably worth 1/3 the price. But telling them that probably would only offend the seller. Maybe they found a sucker after I left, or maybe they got stuck with it. It doesn't matter to me; I have that very locomotive and the rest of the set, in original box, in my basement. I paid $10 for it last summer. Maybe a little low.
lionroar88 wrote:Some EBay sellers are getting out of hand... I understand this is a free market, but people like this are just plain wrong. Putting a $10,000 buy-it-now on this is giving people with an untrained eye, or little knowledge of the hobby and collecting, a bad impression. That guy a couple days ago with the poor condition pre-war set probably sees something like this and that is what makes him think his junk is worth solid platinum.
lionroar88 wrote: As for his 'olds' at least he shows a picture of the spare tire! No pics of his 'spray painted hood'... probably bought a can of Krylon from Advance Auto Parts and didn't bother to clean the surface, or sand blast the rest of the hood, so the 'primer' probably didn't adhere properly and if you don't know what you are doing and take the proper steps to redo his junk job, the paint you apply won't adhere either!$800? I wouldn't give him $80.00. But I do love his tack job on the headliner! He couldn't even use a friggin straight edge and put the tacks in in a grid pattern so it looked nice!
oh cmon no it only has 54,103 miles hey and there isnt evn any cracks in the dash...lol
the clock dont work but hey looks like you get a full spare...
amazing..............it takes all kinds of people to make the world go round!
He states: "Cars are kit cars from late 30‘s, early 40's"So the ONLY thing of 'worth' that he is selling is the engine... that makes this even more ridiculous.Bob - From the pictures the engine just does not appear to be O gauge... could be O gauge, just does not 'look' it to my eye.Some EBay sellers are getting out of hand... I understand this is a free market, but people like this are just plain wrong. Putting a $10,000 buy-it-now on this is giving people with an untrained eye, or little knowledge of the hobby and collecting, a bad impression. That guy a couple days ago with the poor condition pre-war set probably sees something like this and that is what makes him think his junk is worth solid platinum.---As for his 'olds' at least he shows a picture of the spare tire! No pics of his 'spray painted hood'... probably bought a can of Krylon from Advance Auto Parts and didn't bother to clean the surface, or sand blast the rest of the hood, so the 'primer' probably didn't adhere properly and if you don't know what you are doing and take the proper steps to redo his junk job, the paint you apply won't adhere either!$800? I wouldn't give him $80.00. But I do love his tack job on the headliner! He couldn't even use a friggin straight edge and put the tacks in in a grid pattern so it looked nice!
Geno wrote:I don't think this guy seriously expects to get $10k for that train set- I think he's just fishing for a chump. He can't be a total fraud, considering his feedback rating.But $2800 for that POS 'Olds? He's got to be dreaming about that! $800 is more like it.Geno
oh cmon he even primered the hood he said...wasnt that nice!
we can pimp it out as he states...wow
Several collectors, did recognize the engine for what it was. The person put a buy it now price of $10,000. That does not mean that the seller's reserve is $10,000. It could be much lower.
If you want to post bad Ebay ads, maybe we should start posting ads that are misleading, or downright fraudulent.
With the crappy pictures he had on there it looked like the OO Scale Hudson. Just simply amazes me. I am not sure if these people are stupid, typing too many 0s, or are just plain retarded.
From the side photo someone posted it does look like a 700E.
Wants you to pay $10,000 yet an expierenced collector like myself can't even identify what is being auctioned. Unreal.
..........Wayne..........
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