CLOSED////////The Coffee Pot is still on and over 3 years. Here we gather as friends with trains.

[ChiefEagles]

Packing.  Pictures on Stop the Chief thread of walk-in attic.  Hope switches come soon.  If not, I may order some and make Miss Edna mad.  Maybe by the time I get back.  Good night.

[Blueberryhill RR]

 Hello All!   Blueberry- Charles Durant is not the father of Chevrolet. That Honor goes to Louis Chevrolet who was one of the first race car driver's over 90 years ago & built his own car's. The Founder of General Motor's who's name was Billy Durant bought out Louise Chevrolets' Company along with Buick,Cadillac, & Oldsmobile around 1907. David Dunbar Buick was the founder of Buick, Henry Leland Started Cadillac.(& later the Lincoln Motor Co before Henry Ford bought them out in the 30s) Ransom Eli Olds Founded Oldsmobile & Durant bought him out also. BTW- Ransom Eli Olds was Born in Geneva,Ohio on the Main Rd in Town (Rt 20) which is about 30 Mi east of Willoughby & was a stop on the old New York Central Railroad as well. The AC Delco Division of General Motors was set up after a fellow named Charles Kettering who invented the Electric Starter for Automobiles & is a Dayton native where Delco was based & they helped develop different Electronic's & Inventions for GM (Radio's, Air Conditioning,etc) He also became an executive for General Motors in the late 20s. On another note about Ransom Eli Olds. He set up the R.E.O. Company that manufactured Truck's after he sold his automotive business to Billy Durant & was quite successful at it until the demise of the company in the 40s?. Take Care all.

That was a very informative answer, Keith. I must admit that I knew that. After 33 years with Chevrolet , you learn the history. I just wanted to know how long it would take for someone to correct me. Thanks for the fun.

Chuck

[ChiefEagles]

Bascic framing done in walk-in.   Have not put in cross supports as I will figure where the hole has to be for me to get to the back of the benchwork.  Going to lay out the supports on top and get a "feel" for how the tracks will work before I put down top.  Couldn't do as has been raining for some time now.  Later

[1688torpedo]

 Hello All!   Blueberry- Charles Durant is not the father of Chevrolet. That Honor goes to Louis Chevrolet who was one of the first race car driver's over 90 years ago & built his own car's. The Founder of General Motor's who's name was Billy Durant bought out Louise Chevrolets' Company along with Buick,Cadillac, & Oldsmobile around 1907. David Dunbar Buick was the founder of Buick, Henry Leland Started Cadillac.(& later the Lincoln Motor Co before Henry Ford bought them out in the 30s) Ransom Eli Olds Founded Oldsmobile & Durant bought him out also. BTW- Ransom Eli Olds was Born in Geneva,Ohio on the Main Rd in Town (Rt 20) which is about 30 Mi east of Willoughby & was a stop on the old New York Central Railroad as well. The AC Delco Division of General Motors was set up after a fellow named Charles Kettering who invented the Electric Starter for Automobiles & is a Dayton native where Delco was based & they helped develop different Electronic's & Inventions for GM (Radio's, Air Conditioning,etc) He also became an executive for General Motors in the late 20s. On another note about Ransom Eli Olds. He set up the R.E.O. Company that manufactured Truck's after he sold his automotive business to Billy Durant & was quite successful at it until the demise of the company in the 40s?. Take Care all.

[Brutus]

Spent the day working on a science project with my son and wife and updating my webpage.  Time for a quick shower and some games with my daughter (pet shop), before dinner.  TTFN!

PS - I was wrong, Mr. Potts didn't invent the first car - just the first sentient, flying, boat car.  Anybody?

[cnw1995]

Good morning from a quiet Crystal Lake where I just learned the daughter who bought home no books from school on Friday has finals this week

The youngest and I had fun running things yesterday. We finished the Apitz Forest - near the end, we found other interesting ways to use the furnance filter to make trees in more of 'flat' way. We also liked running the Rail Zepp back and forth to one another on a long straight. We'd each catch it and send it back the other way.

[spankybird]

Jakeoregano (aka Dwayne) - If you ever make it to the North Coast, drop me a line and we can arrange a visit !

[rtraincollector]

 rtraincollector before you go through the nightmare with an insurance company like i did one time when my house was robbed ... here's what you have to do or they won't pay . Pictures of each engine and car - value in written form from a dealer/store/collector - and a copy of the catalog with the values listed and a specail collector's insurance policy. I got burnt and lost alot because they wanted all that and was not informed by them until I tried to file the claim ! Not to bash any insurance company but STATE FARM is the worst one to try to get paid ! People in florida found that out also and still they are the only company not yet paying those poor people ! And guess what guys if you have a good policy "homeowners " and you drop that $1,000.00 engine she's covered ! Ask your agent for detailed coverage procedures ... most people don't ask and believe me they won't volunteer it ! By the way adding on that " special " as they call it coverage is only a couple dollars a year extra.

Just a Hobo I was looking at a private insurance company for just collectables there in your backyard basicly there in Westminester, MD. there called collectibles Insurance Company. Know anything about them? Claim don't need a complete list just a general list well i would have to give a good list as I'm over $5000.00 in fact I'm about doubled that in Lionel which isn't hard to do these days even with stuff 20 years old although mine dates back as far as 1927 (standard set) have 2 other prewar sets O gauge and a lot of post war and then comes the newer stuff it ends about 1990 or so.  

 

i'm still making my list up so my final total is going up yet.

The set isn't a true lionel set as it has been repainted another scheam so I'm just putting down $45.00 a car figuring it would cost at least that to have somebody do it and do it right.

[Blueberryhill RR]

Spankybird I love the Mercedes. Did you know Mercedes was the first car ever made. Ford was the first to make the assembly line, not the car.

Colin :You are probably right, I'm not sure though, cause I was taught a long time ago that Henry Duryea invented the first car ! I think he was a Frenchman. Thanks Colin ! !

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarsassemblya.htm

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blDuryea.htm

OOps !! Already got it wrong, it was Frank Duryea & his brother !  Sorry !! They are credited with the first American production car !

 

What about Charles Durant ??? 

Do you know where they made the Duesenberg cars ???

Answers:  Charles Durant was called the " Father of Chevrolet ".

                   Duesenberg cars were built in Cleveland, Ohio

Somebody had to answer.

I'm gonna play the smart*** again but...Duesenbergs were originally built in Indianapolis, Indiana, where their Model A racing machines gained fame on the race track.  Later the cars were built in Auburn, Indiana when E.L. Cord bought the Duesenberg company, encouraging the 2 Duesy brothers to produce the famous Model J.   The only major outsourcing of parts for Auburn /Cord/ Duesenberg cars would have been Lycoming engines, built in Pennsylvania, just a few mile north of where Laz lives.

Bruce Webster

 

Bruce Webster

I knew I'd get someone to answer that question. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Spankybird I love the Mercedes. Did you know Mercedes was the first car ever made. Ford was the first to make the assembly line, not the car.

Colin :You are probably right, I'm not sure though, cause I was taught a long time ago that Henry Duryea invented the first car ! I think he was a Frenchman. Thanks Colin ! !

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarsassemblya.htm

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blDuryea.htm

OOps !! Already got it wrong, it was Frank Duryea & his brother !  Sorry !! They are credited with the first American production car !

 

What about Charles Durant ??? 

Do you know where they made the Duesenberg cars ???

Answers:  Charles Durant was called the " Father of Chevrolet ".

                   Duesenberg cars were built in Cleveland, Ohio

Somebody had to answer.

I'm gonna play the smart*** again but...Duesenbergs were originally built in Indianapolis, Indiana, where their Model A racing machines gained fame on the race track.  Later the cars were built in Auburn, Indiana when E.L. Cord bought the Duesenberg company, encouraging the 2 Duesy brothers to produce the famous Model J.   The only major outsourcing of parts for Auburn /Cord/ Duesenberg cars would have been Lycoming engines, built in Pennsylvania, just a few mile north of where Laz lives.

Bruce Webster

 

Bruce Webster

[Anonymous]

 rtraincollector before you go through the nightmare with an insurance company like i did one time when my house was robbed ... here's what you have to do or they won't pay . Pictures of each engine and car - value in written form from a dealer/store/collector - and a copy of the catalog with the values listed and a specail collector's insurance policy. I got burnt and lost alot because they wanted all that and was not informed by them until I tried to file the claim ! Not to bash any insurance company but STATE FARM is the worst one to try to get paid ! People in florida found that out also and still they are the only company not yet paying those poor people ! And guess what guys if you have a good policy "homeowners " and you drop that $1,000.00 engine she's covered ! Ask your agent for detailed coverage procedures ... most people don't ask and believe me they won't volunteer it ! By the way adding on that " special " as they call it coverage is only a couple dollars a year extra.

[wrmcclellan]

Afternoon all!

I have spent the last 2 days helping my wife build a 2 PC network at her office. A project like this (just like a home repair project) required 4 trips to the local computer store. They are really nice as they take the things you buy (i.e. I bought the wrong router) back with no questions and let you get the item you really needed. Anyway - this became a 2 day ordeal and culminated with me working at her office for 9 hours, finally ending at about 8:30 pm last night.

Then I got to come home and watch the Cowboys further implode. Talk about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory - how would you like to be Tony Romo this morning? Well there is always next year!

Then after the Cowboys, I needed to wrap up a couple of work items for my trip tomorrow and my laptop crashed hard. Looks like the HD has bad sectors. Luckily I had just purchased a new laptop for Christmas and I had not intended to set it up until after my trip next week. So guess what I have been doing late last night and this morning? I also happen to have a nice little device that lets me pull the laptop HD and stick into a USB adapter to turn it into an external drive. As the damaged areas are typically in the program areas, I was able to hook it up to my new LT and grab all my data files and Outlook files and put thm ontp the new PC HD. Just what I wanted to do - spend my entire weekend wrangling PCs (sort of like herding cats).

Anyway - so far I have been successful. I will be out in Phoenix all next week, so I may not be able to drop in. Week after next we go back to NYC to dismantle and pack the Grand Central Terminal layout and ship it back to Texas for storage.

Have a great day and a great week all!

[jakeoregano]

Good afternoon all from Central Ohio.  Everyone here is gearing up for the BIG Game tomorrow evening.  I'm hoping that the Gators and the Buckeyes can put on at least as good a show as Boise St did last week.  Heaven forbid, but I'm rooting for the Gators.   

I'm pulling for the Eagles in the NFC.  I've always thought Jeff Garcia was a great QB.  Indy gets pounded next week in B-more.  They beat a mediocre KC team that was lucky to be in the playoffs to begin with.  True, they beat 'em but we'll see when they come up against the best defense in the league on the road.  GO RAVENS!!!  It's gonna be a Baltimore Philly SB this year.

Watch out for NE - they were ONLY 12-4 thiis year and are the 2nd scariest team in the playoffs in my opinion (Ravens being the first).

Spankybird:  That is a cool photo of the train and car.  You have a great layout, as most of the guys here do that posts pix.  I can only hope that when I finally start my permanent layout that I've learned enough here to make it right.   

All have a great day and a great week.

Jakeoregano (aka Dwayne)

[dwiemer]

Rtraincollector, as mentioned, the greenberg's price guide would be a place to start, not sure if they will have your exact set.  The TCA might also have some information.  I am not familiar with the set, but if you start a new thread, it may get a better response from someone more familiar.

Welcome to the forum.

Dennis

[csxt30]

Chuck : I didn't answer cause you told me that before !!  I didn't think it would be fair for me to win the "Grand Prize" that way !!   I knew you were offering your new Hundred Year bridge for the prize, too !!

Thanks, John

[Blueberryhill RR]

Spankybird I love the Mercedes. Did you know Mercedes was the first car ever made. Ford was the first to make the assembly line, not the car.

Colin :You are probably right, I'm not sure though, cause I was taught a long time ago that Henry Duryea invented the first car ! I think he was a Frenchman. Thanks Colin ! !

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarsassemblya.htm

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blDuryea.htm

OOps !! Already got it wrong, it was Frank Duryea & his brother !  Sorry !! They are credited with the first American production car !

 

What about Charles Durant ??? 

Do you know where they made the Duesenberg cars ???

Answers:  Charles Durant was called the " Father of Chevrolet ".

                   Duesenberg cars were built in Cleveland, Ohio

Somebody had to answer.

[Brutus]

I thought it was Caractacus Potts?

Stayed up too late again, this time watching Snakes on a Plane - no memorable characters.  Sam Jackson is pretty good, but the writing isn't there.  Good special effects.

[Blueberryhill RR]

Spankybird I love the Mercedes. Did you know Mercedes was the first car ever made. Ford was the first to make the assembly line, not the car.

Colin :You are probably right, I'm not sure though, cause I was taught a long time ago that Henry Duryea invented the first car ! I think he was a Frenchman. Thanks Colin ! !

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarsassemblya.htm

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blDuryea.htm

OOps !! Already got it wrong, it was Frank Duryea & his brother !  Sorry !! They are credited with the first American production car !

 

What about Charles Durant ??? 

Do you know where they made the Duesenberg cars ???

[csxt30]

Spankybird I love the Mercedes. Did you know Mercedes was the first car ever made. Ford was the first to make the assembly line, not the car.

Colin :You are probably right, I'm not sure though, cause I was taught a long time ago that Henry Duryea invented the first car ! I think he was a Frenchman. Thanks Colin ! !

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarsassemblya.htm

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blDuryea.htm

OOps !! Already got it wrong, it was Frank Duryea & his brother !  Sorry !! They are credited with the first American production car !

 

[laz 57]

HI GIZ,

   Cooler here today at 40. to get to 52.

CHIEF,  I'll be using the umbrella here today, not to get hit with GRITS.

TOM, nice find, where did they put the smoke unit?

Ran trains last nite for 2 hours NO PILE UPS.

All have a good one.

laz57

[ChiefEagles]

Good Morning All from NE Ohio

where the temp is  30 deg with mostly Clear Blue Skies and some fog in the area. Yes Chief we see SNOW in our forcast for the next few days. Just what have you done now!

 

Mitch - what great look cars !

Here is a pic of the new diecast car I pic up. IT's a 1886 Benz powerwagon.

tom

Snow, always trying to help.

[tmcc man]

Good morning evryone,

Today is the day, Eagles vs. Giants. Hopefully we Eagles will come out on top. I saw the Seahawks game last night too. I thought they were done. I was wrong. I don't know how he could have dropped that snap.

Chief anything to help out a VALUED member of the forum.

Mithch beautiful cars.

Spankybird I love the Mercedes. Did you know Mercedes was the first car ever made. Ford was the first to make the assembly line, not the car.

[csxt30]

 Here is a pic of the new diecast car I pic up. IT's a 1886 Benz powerwagon.

tom

Good Morning Everyone !!

Tom : That's a real Beauty !! Looks live Live Steam !! All they had to do back then was make it 4 wheels & they would have had the first car !! I think !!

Well, looks like we may get snow this week, but at least Ohio will miss the Gritts !!

Mitch : nice cars !! I think you need that new set like Keith just got !!

Thanks, John

[Nick12DMC]

Afternoon all, Been getting the Christmas dec's down today. left the loop of track we had round the tree out. I wonder how long Charlie and I can leave it set up before the "Management" tell us to put it away.

Have the county planning officer arriving on Tuesday for the second part of the planning application for our Garage/gamesroom. Should be intresting, first part has passed building reg's, code I believe you guys (and gals) call it.  

Have a good day

Nick

P.S. John B, Like your kind of survey That reminds me, I have over half a case of Anchor Steam Beer left from Christmas/New years........Hmmmm

[spankybird]

Good Morning All from NE Ohio

where the temp is  30 deg with mostly Clear Blue Skies and some fog in the area. Yes Chief we see SNOW in our forcast for the next few days. Just what have you done now!

 

Mitch - what great look cars !

Here is a pic of the new diecast car I pic up. IT's a 1886 Benz powerwagon.

tom

[ChiefEagles]

Morning.  Getting going slow this AM.  Clouding up and then turn cooler tomorrow.  Think I am going to fly into SNOW.   If not while I'm flying, after I get up Nawth.  I'll make sure that the plane spreads GRITS all over PA as I fly to Philly.   Have to have New England breakfasts which means no grits.  But, good old maple syrup.   Go to go for now.  Have a good one.

[fifedog]

Mornin' boys. Mornin Blueberry hill. Sunny and pleasant in the mid-atlantic today.

DEWEEEEEY! - funny how things happen...  Mrs. fifedog was inspecting my progress on the layout.  Then she decided she wanted to run trains. Well, an errant toggle switch thrown here; then a misaligned track switch there; then two freights trying to occupy the same block; then the unmistakable sound of plastic and diecast hitting the floor. OH, and did I forget to mention the basement floor is not carpeted? If bad things happen in 3's, then I think you, me, and dbaker have fulfilled the proficy.

[Roger Bielen]

rtraincollector - First, welcome to the CTT forum and especially the Coffee Pot.  A good starting souce for pricing would be the Greenberg Price Guides.  Toward the back they have separate lists of items issued by various orginazations.

[mitchelr]

Don B.- A typical consists for a 1688E from 1936 includes a 1679 Baby Ruth Boxcar with Brown Door's & Nickel Journel's, 1680 Sunoco Tank Car with Nickel Journel's & a Red 1682 Caboose with Cream/Yellow Trim around the Window's & some of the 1682s had a cream strip around the cupola on top & Nickel Journel's on the Truck's also.Other 1688Es pulled the 1690 series passenger Car's which included Nickel Journel Boxes on the Truck's & they were red just like the 1682 cabooses with Yellow/cream trim around the window's and Fish Bellies on the bottom's of the car's.

 

Don B -  Here are photos of the cars that are in my 1688 set.  I know they are not the exact cars you need, but it will give you an idea.

FYI - Keith did some work on the e-unit on my 1688 and now it runs like a charm.

 

Dewey - I feel your pain.  I was so upset when I crashed my 2025 to the floor.  NOW when I run trains I am positive the lift gate is secured before I even turn on the transformer.  I have even taken to parking the locomotive on a loop of track leading away from the lift bridge. 

 

Not much going on here in G'burg.  Yesterday was a lazy day. I slept in the chair and watched football most of the day.  Couldn't believe the end of the Cowboys - Seahawks game.  Today I have to go to work for a couple of hours after church.  I am hosting a meeting in the AM and need to do some set up and clean up which I didn't feel like doing at 6:30 PM on Friday night when I finally left work.

I think it was Bruce Webster that mentioned he was repainting some pre-war. I have some repaint projects that I started. Hope to get some time to work on them this week.  I'll post some photos when I get them done.  Also haven't posted my new Lionel WM steamer.  I'd better get to work.

Take care,

Mitch

[Blueberryhill RR]

Good Morning from Blueberryhill....

It is a frosty 30 degrees. Going up to 50 today with maybe a few showers. Tomorrow is predicted with snow. Yuck. Then back up to 60 next week. Don't think I'll plant a garden yet.

Today is a slow day. I have a few things to do around here, then maybe run trains this afternoon. I got a DVD of " Black Sheep Squadron " and it has 6 episodes on it. I'm looking forward to watching it. I used to like watching that show on TV.

Well, the Dining Car has rolled in. " All Aboard ". Breakfast.

Y'all have a great Sunday.

Chuck