Trains.com

sorry but end of the line.

25030 views
226 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: S.E. Ohio
  • 5,434 posts
Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Friday, October 26, 2007 4:43 PM

Reggie...If you want my opinion , .... Knowing you will be back, I would oil them up and put them in a good dry storage place and keep them. When you come back, they will be there for you. That would be a lot cheaper than trying to replace them.

Chuck

Chuck # 3 I found my thrill on Blueberryhill !!
  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: usa
  • 687 posts
Posted by thatboy37 on Friday, October 26, 2007 4:37 PM
haven't been here in a while how's everyone doing. question for all. since i'm in the process of moving out of the country(still waiting on details about pay and stuff etc etc). i'm in the middle of trying to decide if i'm going to sale all of my o gauge trains and just stick with my n scale collection. any help or thought from you guys would be great. we are only to be over there for 2 years and i don't want them to just sit and go to waste for 2 years. what do you guys think i should do. i will be back and i will get another house just like the one i have now to build a layout in. if any of you had to choose from the 2 to get rid of which would you choose and why. i figured this out you can only work on one gauge at a time, and from the time it took to just get one scale up and running. if you split the time between the two thats less work that will be done on either layout but it would eventually get done. help please
LIVE LIFE AS IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE ! UNTIL NEXT TIME PEACE !!! REGGIE thatboy37@hotmail.com
  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Long Island, NY
  • 456 posts
Posted by darianj on Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:48 PM

As it's been said before...not time has been wasted.  It's a bitter sweet victory for you and your family.  You'll probably have an even bigger layout when all is said and done.  We all want to see the progress of the new layout too.

Good luck!

There's light at the end of the tunnel.... It's a Train! http://www.tmbmodeltrainclub.com
  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: New Jersey
  • 201 posts
Posted by lionel2986 on Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:19 PM

Hi Reggie,

You didn't waste anyones time. I've learned alot from the questions you've asked and enjoyed watching your progress. I hope you stick around but like mentioned earlier, it's good that you have your priorities straight. Trains will always be around no matter how long of a break you decide to take.

  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Millersburg, Pa.
  • 7,607 posts
Posted by laz 57 on Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:47 PM

REGGIE,

   Wish you da best in your endevors.  Your always welcome here in Millerburg, Pa. if you can ever find it?  Doors open and I do have OLD MILWAUKEE on tap.  Keep in touch wit UZ GIZ.

laz57

  There's a race of men that don't fit in, A race that can't stay still; Robert Service. TCA 03-55991
  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: St. Louis, MO
  • 4,913 posts
Posted by Brutus on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:51 PM
First of all, congrats on the jobs, sounds like you are really being blessed here, even if it gives you an opportunity to grow Wink [;)] that you might prefer to avoid.  I'll bet your next layout will be even better - just think how much you learned on this one!  BTW - It's the World Wide Web, so keep in touch and keep us up to date!  You are more than welcome to visit any time you are in St. Louis, but right now I'm too between layouts...  God bless, Reg!

RIP Chewy - best dog I ever had.

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 21, 2007 6:01 PM
Reggie,
This flat out sucks!  I will miss watching your progress, but look forward to seeing your next layout progress.

You better believe that the offer still stands!  If you are ever within a short drive of Baltimore, MD you are more than welcome to stop in and say HI!  I may even have a shot at beating you to the finish line now!  LOL!

Please keep in touch and best of luck!
  • Member since
    March 2005
  • From: Southwest Georgia
  • 5,028 posts
Posted by dwiemer on Friday, September 21, 2007 7:45 AM

Reggie, as others have said, you wasted no ones time.  You have become a part of this family and so, we laugh with you, pray with and for you, and only wish the best for you and your family.  You have come a long way with your abilities, only wish I could have contributed more to it.  I have some good friends originally from SA and should you need any help/information, I am sure we can get it to you. 

Please remember us and catch us up from time to time.  And Yes, you are always welcome to visit when you get around these parts.  Please post here, and by all means, email me if you get the chance.

God Bless you and your family,

Dennis

TCA#09-63805

 

Charter BTTs.jpg

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Hightstown, NJ
  • 2,886 posts
Posted by anjdevil2 on Friday, September 21, 2007 6:43 AM

Reggie, sorry yoyu have to leave, been sneakin' a peek on your progress.  Family is important and in my own family I made a smaller move to keep the family intact.  Blessing upon your family, keep the faith, good luck and I'll keep an eye out for you in the aafl.  KEEP IN TOUCH!

Rich 

I am the monster in your head...And I thought you'd learn by now, It seems you haven't yet.
I am the venom in your skin  --- Breaking Benjamin


  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: S.E. Ohio
  • 5,434 posts
Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Friday, September 21, 2007 6:20 AM

Reggie.....Thanks for sharing with us. You have a great layout started.

Good luck to you and your family. Keep in touch.

Chuck

Chuck # 3 I found my thrill on Blueberryhill !!
  • Member since
    December 2004
  • 3,176 posts
Posted by csxt30 on Friday, September 21, 2007 6:18 AM

Hi Reggie !!  It sure was a pleasure talking to you & watching your layout grow & of course the new little one coming along !!  I wish you & the family the best & hope you post when you can !!

Thanks, John

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: Ann Arbor, Michigan
  • 2,306 posts
Posted by kpolak on Friday, September 21, 2007 6:06 AM

Hi Reggie!  Sorry about the layout...God has a way of rewarding.

Congratulations on the new playing position, and good luck to you and your family in the new location.

Thank you for the play by play on the layout...It is very inspiring!  I don't think I would have the patience to build something that big.  Seeing you do it made it seem a little more within reach.

Please keep in touch with us here, and let me know when you make it to Detroit.

Kurt

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Jelloway Creek, OH - Elv. 1100
  • 7,578 posts
Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, September 21, 2007 5:33 AM
Reggie, your enthusiasm for this hobby and your skills have been so great to read about.  The photographs of the layout and the family have been "a must read" post.   You take care of yourself and your family and make sure you keep in touch through the forum even when you are overseas.  Good luck and God Bless you and your great family.  Some photographs of the trains in SA would be interesting. Smile [:)]

Celebrating 18 years on the CTT Forum. Smile, Wink & Grin

Buckeye Riveter......... OTTS Charter Member, a Roseyville Raider and a member of the CTT Forum since 2004..

Jelloway Creek, OH - ELV 1,100 - Home of the Baltimore, Ohio & Wabash RR

TCA 09-64284

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: North Texas
  • 5,707 posts
Posted by wrmcclellan on Friday, September 21, 2007 12:59 AM

Good luck Reggie. No time wasted here. The next time you set up a layout you will find ways to imporve what you did on this layout. The experience will prove to be very valuable for you I think.

 

Regards, Roy

  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Sunny So. Cal.
  • 3,784 posts
Posted by dbaker48 on Friday, September 21, 2007 12:39 AM

I wasn't that much help to you, (I don't know that much) shhh don't tell anyone.  But whatever you do don't EVEN think you wasted anyones time.  The ONLY way it would be wasted is if you don't keep in touch with us!!!  Remember the pot is always available.  I will make sure a fresh pot is on at night to accommodate the time difference.  KEEP IN TOUCH !!!! 

Again, in my opinion your doing the right thing!  Family is first, and don't forget to post some pictures of that beautiful girl you have.

Don 

Don

  • Member since
    November 2015
  • 3,584 posts
Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:28 PM

Reggie

You are wise in keeping your priorities straight.  I have enjoyed watching your layout grow.  I feel the pain of terminating a project before fininshing especially after investing the energy and time into it.  What you have gained in experience will serve you well for your next layout.  Please keep in touch.

May God bless you and your family with this new endevor.

Jim

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Austin, TX
  • 10,096 posts
Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:26 PM

Reggie, you'll need to do some of the same things that our European friends do to run American trains in South Africa.  Their voltage is also 230 and their frequency 50 hertz, but their plugs are very unusual.  Here is a link to a site that shows all of that:

http://www.kropla.com/electric2.htm

 

Bob Nelson

  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Rolesville, NC
  • 15,416 posts
Posted by ChiefEagles on Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:58 PM
Hey man, don't forget us when you get in the "big time" in SA.  You can still get on line [as Marty E says] and let us know how things are going.  Photos too.  God bless.

 God bless TCA 05-58541   Benefactor Member of the NRA,  Member of the American Legion,   Retired Boss Hog of Roseyville Laugh,   KC&D QualifiedCowboy       

              

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Pittsburgh, PA
  • 1,429 posts
Posted by MartyE on Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:49 PM

WOWZER!  Hey Reggie...you wasted no ones time here.  You made friends, shared your layout and contributed.  I only wish you the best in your travels,  Sounds like you'll be in the states for a while so keep logging in.  Also when you get over seas log on.  Great thing about the web is it's world wide.

 

Safe journey my friend.   

Trying to update my avatar since 2020 Laugh

MartyE and Kodi the Husky Dog! ( 3/31/90-9/28/04 ) www.MartyE.com My O Gauge Web Page and Home of Kodiak Junction!

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: usa
  • 687 posts
sorry but end of the line.
Posted by thatboy37 on Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:34 PM
Sad [:(]well i just got some news from my wife that her boss wants her to move to durban south africa for her job to be more accessible to him. well it's kind of is a shoch to her and me but we think it will be good for us in the long run. so that means that i will have to stop my progress and start taking down my train layout. it hurts but i have to do what's best for the family. i have spent so many countless hours and days working on this thing and now we have to up and move it really sucks. plus i had the dream trainroom that i always wanted and i don't think that i will be able to find anything close to what i have here over there, but who knows what type of house they have over there and possibly i might find even a bigger room than what i have now. i really feel bad for leading you guys on and i feel bad for asking you all all those questions and having to tear it all down and start all over again. i feel like i wasted your time that you could've been working on your layout. i'm going to salvage all the track and reuse it for a layout that i build in our new house. we are not moving until we sale our house that we are in now. so i'm thinking and hoping by the begining of next year and possibly by the summer we will be all packed up and moved. i will still be back and forth to the u.s. as i will be playing in the new professional football league starting up in april of 08 called the aafl. maybe when i come back and i'm in some of you guys city the offer still stand s for me to come and visit you guys layout and have a few drinks. good thing we are keeping our u.s. citizenship and we will make the other property that i own in kentucky our resident for when we come back and visit. also the offer still stands for me if you ever are on that side of the earth let me know and youare more than welcome to come and visit my layout and home anytime. 
LIVE LIFE AS IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE ! UNTIL NEXT TIME PEACE !!! REGGIE thatboy37@hotmail.com
  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Sunny So. Cal.
  • 3,784 posts
Posted by dbaker48 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 1:58 AM
Great Job!  I always enjoy reading your posts!  I usually learn something from either you or the answers you get.  Your going to have a layout everyone is envious about.  Maybe you could host a future TCA or TTOS convention?? Whistling [:-^]

Don

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: St. Louis, MO
  • 4,913 posts
Posted by Brutus on Monday, September 3, 2007 5:11 PM
Great pics, Reg - you are really making a ton of progress!

RIP Chewy - best dog I ever had.

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: usa
  • 687 posts
Posted by thatboy37 on Monday, September 3, 2007 3:24 PM
i got it fixed i had one feeder wire crossed on line 2 with a power lead going to a common and a common going to the power feed on the track. i switched them out and there was my lionel sd80mac with full power and sounds going around the track with ease.
LIVE LIFE AS IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE ! UNTIL NEXT TIME PEACE !!! REGGIE thatboy37@hotmail.com
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Holland
  • 1,404 posts
Posted by daan on Monday, September 3, 2007 8:29 AM

Only just a small note to your connections. Isn't it wiser to solder your joints? I see that even the wires are screwed with crimp connectors to your toggle switches. Of course this works fine, and a lot of people do it this way, but I know from my work that these screwed connections loosen up sometimes, resulting in problems or power failures.

May be you could add some locktite in the screw holes to prevent the srews from loosening up. I use a solder iron and resincore solder to make connections, it is about equal timeconsuming, but the connection can't loosen up afterwards.

@lionelsony, the way I tried to explain is about the same as yours regarding the phasing of transformers. Based on low or high voltage difference while in or out of phase. I only don't connect the ground wires before checking and am probably a bit blurry describing how I'm doing it.. It works with my transformers however.

On old transformers, those without electronic voltage regulators, you can hear it by the humming sound of the transformer. If you are out of phase, those old transformers make a lot more noise. Not that that is the way to go, since measuring, even if it's only a light, is much securer in these sort of things. 

Daan. I'm Dutch, but only by country...
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Millersburg, Pa.
  • 7,607 posts
Posted by laz 57 on Monday, September 3, 2007 7:47 AM

REGGIE,

  The new ZW have tracks 1 and 4 to be run as conventional or at 18 volts.  You have to do it manually with the Cab1.  Press TR 1 and then turn your red button clockwise this will bring you power to your tracks.  You can run conventional engines this way.  Or you can bring TR 1 and TR4 up to full power and press ENG whatever and run them with TMCC.  You can also have all of them running in TMCC by press the preset in the back of the ZW check your booklet that they gave you.  Hope this helps.

laz57

  There's a race of men that don't fit in, A race that can't stay still; Robert Service. TCA 03-55991
  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: usa
  • 687 posts
Posted by thatboy37 on Sunday, September 2, 2007 11:38 PM

1st a couple items i got from the hobby shop: fsu collegiate boxcar

 

cn sd40-2 lionel.

2nd pics of some wiring i did start from the drilled hole from the track to the barrier block, from the barrier block to the toggle switch, from the toggle switch out the drilled hole to the transformers.

 

3rd i have a question about this wiring.

i have two zw's with six 180 power bricks, connected to those wires i showed earlier. i have the tmcc command base hooked up to the "a" post on the first transformer. i have the red wire to line 1 and a post on first transformer, blue wire to line 2 and b post first trans former, green wire to line 3 and c post first transformer, yellow wire to line 4 and d post first transformer, brown wire to line 5 and a post to second transformer, orange wire to yard/roundhouse/ test track all on b post of second transformer, and i have the black wire common connected to all u post on both transformers together. if i'm right they should be phased right.  

 now i turn all of it on and all of the bricks are on, lit up, and neither of them are tripped. next i turn the lever's up to post a/b/c/d on transformer one, and post a/b to transformer two to give the track some power. next i hit each individual toggle switch to turn on power for all the lines. now line 1 and 4 bricks on transformer one and lines 1 and 2 bricks on transformer two dont trip, but line 2 and 3 bricks on transformer one trip. now when i turned it on only power went to the b post on transformer two. which is to the yard and roundhouse came on, also when i put the command control engine on it all the sounds worked but when i turn the big red button for it to move in either direction it would not move, but when i held down the boost button it moved in both directions and i hit the brakes button it stopped quickly, i could shut it down and start it up on this line, but there is no power to lines 1, 2 ,3, 4 of transformer one and lines 5 of transformer two. please help i'm lost if you dont understand please pm me and i will give you my number or you can give me your number. maybe by me telling you over the phone vs. typing it can give you a better understanding.

 

 

 

LIVE LIFE AS IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE ! UNTIL NEXT TIME PEACE !!! REGGIE thatboy37@hotmail.com
  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Austin, TX
  • 10,096 posts
Posted by lionelsoni on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:23 PM

With completely separate loops, you can indeed wire the commons of the loops together and use the same return wire to the transformers.  In fact, if the transformers are out of phase with each other, this return then becomes a neutral, in which the return currents cancel each other, reducing or eliminating voltage drop in the return wire.

I don't understand your "phasing" instructions, Daan.  I would connect the transformer commons together, then connect the lamp from a variable output of one transformer to a variable output of the other transformer, set to approximately the same voltage.  If the lamp is bright, the transformers are out of phase; if dim, they are in phase.

Here is my usual warning against running trains between blocks powered from different transformer outputs--even if they are in phase, and especially if they are outputs from the same transformer.

 

Bob Nelson

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: usa
  • 687 posts
Posted by thatboy37 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:56 PM
 daan wrote:

As soon as you connect the tracks with eachother by a switch, loop or even a simple activation section in the track (crossing) those "seperate" loops are connected and you should get your transformers phased to eachother. In this case, with the transformers phased, you can use a single ground buswire for all the tracks connected.

Phasing is simple done with a lightbulb (20 volts) and 2 wires connected to it. Power up your transformers and connect the ground from the first with the ground from the second transformer with the lamp. If the bulb lights up, the plug of the transformer needs to be turned 180 degrees. Then do the same with the second and third transformer untill every transformer has it's ground on the same side. (in other words, connecting your bulb to any of the ground outlets on your transformers doesn't make it light up.)

i think you just answered my ?. all of my tracks are connected to each other via switches. so i guess i'm ok then.

thanks for the help.

LIVE LIFE AS IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE ! UNTIL NEXT TIME PEACE !!! REGGIE thatboy37@hotmail.com
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Holland
  • 1,404 posts
Posted by daan on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:31 PM

It depends on the construction of your layout. If it's build with several loops which are not connected (in other words, you have multiple single track layouts together on one table) it's most convieniant to see them as seperate layouts and wire the hot and ground wire for each layout seperately. Phasing is not necessary here, because the tracks operate like multiple single layouts. You can't use a shared ground buswire however.

As soon as you connect the tracks with eachother by a switch, loop or even a simple activation section in the track (crossing) those "seperate" loops are connected and you should get your transformers phased to eachother. In this case, with the transformers phased, you can use a single ground buswire for all the tracks connected.

Phasing is simple done with a lightbulb (20 volts) and 2 wires connected to it. Power up your transformers and connect the ground from the first with the ground from the second transformer with the lamp. If the bulb lights up, the plug of the transformer needs to be turned 180 degrees. Then do the same with the second and third transformer untill every transformer has it's ground on the same side. (in other words, connecting your bulb to any of the ground outlets on your transformers doesn't make it light up.)

Daan. I'm Dutch, but only by country...
  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: usa
  • 687 posts
Posted by thatboy37 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:23 PM

i'm headed back to the room as we all know it as the train room from a few days break from it as i wore myself out from the last visit last weekendt to do a little more wiring. i have a question before i start to work again. i know the displays in the zw pamplets show phasing the ground for both transformers. my ? is can/should i use one ground wire for all the mainline power or should i have 1 per mainline.

LIVE LIFE AS IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE ! UNTIL NEXT TIME PEACE !!! REGGIE thatboy37@hotmail.com

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

FREE EMAIL NEWSLETTER

Get the Classic Toy Trains newsletter delivered to your inbox twice a month