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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 9:03 PM
Tom,

I'd love to see some pics. my email is wknox at nauticom.net.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 9:03 PM
Tom,

I'd love to see some pics. my email is wknox at nauticom.net.

Thanks!
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Posted by tschmidt on Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:11 AM
We were putting in a family room (18x18) and wanted to incorporate the trains (O gauge) is some way. I was able to build a 6" shelf around 3 of the walls and a 20" deep bookcase on the 4th wall. This allows for 3 or 4 tracks across the top of the bookshelf. There were 2 tricky parts. The first was a staircase coming into the room. We cut a hole through the side of a riser along the wall and it made a great tunnel entrance. Where we crossed a doorway a fold down shelf/bridge was built that alligns the track perfectly every time. All my wiring and power was able to be hidden from sight.

I used Gargraves track and Ross switches. By using TMCC I have no power packs or controllers out in the open. It is extremely sturdy. I used a 6" triangle shaped piece of wood at every stud to support the shelf. I found these pre-cut at Home Depot.

On the walls I used shelving from Glenn Snyder display systems out of Buffalo. It's aluminum and strong. I put 12' of trains on each shelf and it holds them easily. It is not very expensive either.

By doing it this way we were able to have our family room and trains all in the same place. It turned out great and looks pretty good too. If anyone is interested in a pictures I'd be happy to take some and email them to you. Contact me if you want more info.

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Posted by tschmidt on Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:11 AM
We were putting in a family room (18x18) and wanted to incorporate the trains (O gauge) is some way. I was able to build a 6" shelf around 3 of the walls and a 20" deep bookcase on the 4th wall. This allows for 3 or 4 tracks across the top of the bookshelf. There were 2 tricky parts. The first was a staircase coming into the room. We cut a hole through the side of a riser along the wall and it made a great tunnel entrance. Where we crossed a doorway a fold down shelf/bridge was built that alligns the track perfectly every time. All my wiring and power was able to be hidden from sight.

I used Gargraves track and Ross switches. By using TMCC I have no power packs or controllers out in the open. It is extremely sturdy. I used a 6" triangle shaped piece of wood at every stud to support the shelf. I found these pre-cut at Home Depot.

On the walls I used shelving from Glenn Snyder display systems out of Buffalo. It's aluminum and strong. I put 12' of trains on each shelf and it holds them easily. It is not very expensive either.

By doing it this way we were able to have our family room and trains all in the same place. It turned out great and looks pretty good too. If anyone is interested in a pictures I'd be happy to take some and email them to you. Contact me if you want more info.

Tom


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:29 AM
I agree with all and would add a few more. The train shelf in my office sits above the doorways so it takes up NO ROOM, which is my biggest problem for O gauge layouts. If you use nice wood and match the room, it also looks very nice in the room as opposed to my former large monstrosity in the basement.
I am also able to indulge in some basic landscaping in the corners and along the rails with street lights and buildings, etc. Its a great way to display the trains, and I love it so far.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:29 AM
I agree with all and would add a few more. The train shelf in my office sits above the doorways so it takes up NO ROOM, which is my biggest problem for O gauge layouts. If you use nice wood and match the room, it also looks very nice in the room as opposed to my former large monstrosity in the basement.
I am also able to indulge in some basic landscaping in the corners and along the rails with street lights and buildings, etc. Its a great way to display the trains, and I love it so far.
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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:48 PM
BTW, I'm preparing to start a narrow shelf layout for my 3-rail trains. Here are some advantages of narrow shelf layouts (less than 3 feet wide):

1. The rest of the basement can have multi-uses such as pool table, TV room, bar etc

2. Easy to reach the trains for derailments, uncoupling, etc.

3. Easy to paint backdrop even after layout is done

4. Easy to reach wiring and under layout problems or fixes

5. MUCH better to see the trains up close

6. Allows longer runs (vice shorter runs with islands‚

7. Allows future expansion possibilities with peninsulas

8. Construction much easier and less materials if using steel brackets

9. Flexibility in going from room to room (just punch hole in drywall

10. Gentler curves instead of round and round and round and round a circle of track on an island
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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:48 PM
BTW, I'm preparing to start a narrow shelf layout for my 3-rail trains. Here are some advantages of narrow shelf layouts (less than 3 feet wide):

1. The rest of the basement can have multi-uses such as pool table, TV room, bar etc

2. Easy to reach the trains for derailments, uncoupling, etc.

3. Easy to paint backdrop even after layout is done

4. Easy to reach wiring and under layout problems or fixes

5. MUCH better to see the trains up close

6. Allows longer runs (vice shorter runs with islands‚

7. Allows future expansion possibilities with peninsulas

8. Construction much easier and less materials if using steel brackets

9. Flexibility in going from room to room (just punch hole in drywall

10. Gentler curves instead of round and round and round and round a circle of track on an island
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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:43 PM
SotaBoy,

I have experience building an office shelf layout.

Go to page 1 here:

http://davidvergun.tripod.com/

If the site is down, it will be up in about another hour.

I use shelving from homedepot and styrofoam (construction variety that's at least 4 inches thick). No plywood or wood of any type is used.

I pretty much run trains at work whenever I feel like it as I don't have one of those bosses from hell.

I've got a ton of other tips if anyone is interested.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:43 PM
SotaBoy,

I have experience building an office shelf layout.

Go to page 1 here:

http://davidvergun.tripod.com/

If the site is down, it will be up in about another hour.

I use shelving from homedepot and styrofoam (construction variety that's at least 4 inches thick). No plywood or wood of any type is used.

I pretty much run trains at work whenever I feel like it as I don't have one of those bosses from hell.

I've got a ton of other tips if anyone is interested.

Dave Vergun
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Posted by dougdagrump on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:28 PM
jodo, sent you an e-mail.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:28 PM
jodo, sent you an e-mail.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 10:20 AM
hey dougdagrump, i'm new to this website, but i was looking to build a shelf up near the ceiling in my kids room for their train. i saw your email and would be interested in seeing pictures of your layout and any help you can give me thanks krausett
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 10:20 AM
hey dougdagrump, i'm new to this website, but i was looking to build a shelf up near the ceiling in my kids room for their train. i saw your email and would be interested in seeing pictures of your layout and any help you can give me thanks krausett
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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, February 16, 2004 10:58 PM
kckc61, you've got mail.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, February 16, 2004 10:58 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:09 PM
Hi ;;Sorry this is new to me,,I would like Dougdagrump to e-mail some pics if possible or any other folks that have good ideas, Thanks,Kckc61,, kckc@cox-internet.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:09 PM
Hi ;;Sorry this is new to me,,I would like Dougdagrump to e-mail some pics if possible or any other folks that have good ideas, Thanks,Kckc61,, kckc@cox-internet.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:01 PM
kckc61, To whom do you wi***o have e-mail you. include screen name addresse.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:01 PM
kckc61, To whom do you wi***o have e-mail you. include screen name addresse.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:47 AM
Dougdagrump; Your shelf system sounds nice and do-able.,If possible could you e-mail me some pictures also. Thanks, kckc61 kckc@cox-internet.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:47 AM
Dougdagrump; Your shelf system sounds nice and do-able.,If possible could you e-mail me some pictures also. Thanks, kckc61 kckc@cox-internet.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:10 PM
I can't remember who said the garage floor layout, but I will add to it. Take a framing square or carpenters square check all of your corners, rooms are seldom perfectly square due to drywall tape joints in corners. make notes and take wall lengh measurements and then snap chalk lines on the floor then all pieces can be cut to fit according to the lines. I myself would recomend using 3/4 inch plywood with a solid wood nosing an 1 1/4 and step it above the plywood. bottom of nosing flush with bottom of plywood. then you copuld infill the top with 1/2 inch homasote for noise reduction. Home depot/lowes sells reasonbly priced decrative shelf brackets(wood). I am in the process of building mine, I plan to radius the front of a would be triangle to flow into the dimension of the wall shelves. I wil also cut buiding kits so projection is only an inch or more to add depth.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:10 PM
I can't remember who said the garage floor layout, but I will add to it. Take a framing square or carpenters square check all of your corners, rooms are seldom perfectly square due to drywall tape joints in corners. make notes and take wall lengh measurements and then snap chalk lines on the floor then all pieces can be cut to fit according to the lines. I myself would recomend using 3/4 inch plywood with a solid wood nosing an 1 1/4 and step it above the plywood. bottom of nosing flush with bottom of plywood. then you copuld infill the top with 1/2 inch homasote for noise reduction. Home depot/lowes sells reasonbly priced decrative shelf brackets(wood). I am in the process of building mine, I plan to radius the front of a would be triangle to flow into the dimension of the wall shelves. I wil also cut buiding kits so projection is only an inch or more to add depth.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:42 PM
I just finished a suspended layout in the bonus room over my garage. I suspended it from the sloped ceiling with 5/16 all thread and then also suspended display boards under it for some of the excess trains (no such thing) also put plexiglass guardrails about 2 inches high on the curves. the first section is 7 x 24 ..And when expanded later this year it will be 7 x 45. I made it 10 in. wide to run 2 trains at once. The wood is 3/4 fir plywood . if anyone wants pictures let me know.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:42 PM
I just finished a suspended layout in the bonus room over my garage. I suspended it from the sloped ceiling with 5/16 all thread and then also suspended display boards under it for some of the excess trains (no such thing) also put plexiglass guardrails about 2 inches high on the curves. the first section is 7 x 24 ..And when expanded later this year it will be 7 x 45. I made it 10 in. wide to run 2 trains at once. The wood is 3/4 fir plywood . if anyone wants pictures let me know.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:47 PM
I'm glad you told me that. At tims it looks relatively easy, but Its one of those projects that look like if you make a mistake, it will be compounded over and over, so the garage / basement idea is perfect. What is the woodland scenics track bed? From your pics it just looks like you laid down O track on the plywood. I'll do a search and see if I can locate what that is.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:47 PM
I'm glad you told me that. At tims it looks relatively easy, but Its one of those projects that look like if you make a mistake, it will be compounded over and over, so the garage / basement idea is perfect. What is the woodland scenics track bed? From your pics it just looks like you laid down O track on the plywood. I'll do a search and see if I can locate what that is.
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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:51 PM
One more suggestion, I used "O" track with Woodland Scenics Track Bed. You might try the Super "O" with the plastic ties or maybe even the Super Snap Track. They might be better at reducing the volume of noise, its not bad now but might be even more enjoyable if a little quieter.
One other suggestion, which I wish I had done, take the dimensions of the room and lay them out on the floor of the garage/basement where you will be doing the fabrication. That way you can lay out everything and make any necessary adjustments before you start assembly on the walls, believe me you will get pretty tired pretty quick of going up and down that blankety blank step ladder.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:51 PM
One more suggestion, I used "O" track with Woodland Scenics Track Bed. You might try the Super "O" with the plastic ties or maybe even the Super Snap Track. They might be better at reducing the volume of noise, its not bad now but might be even more enjoyable if a little quieter.
One other suggestion, which I wish I had done, take the dimensions of the room and lay them out on the floor of the garage/basement where you will be doing the fabrication. That way you can lay out everything and make any necessary adjustments before you start assembly on the walls, believe me you will get pretty tired pretty quick of going up and down that blankety blank step ladder.

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