Coffee Pot #4 APRIL 2013 TEN years [April 1 is Anniv.] and going strong and its for all to chat. Plenty of coffee and sweet ice tea for all. Come and join us and chat. Grits for the Yanks.

[AF53]

Greetings from York!

It was a great day seeing some old faces and some new ones too.

Ryan - Nice meeting you this morning. Kind of hectic this morning as we all didn't arrive at the same time. Next time we can do better. I went to see Tyke and he wasn't there, three othets were. I will go back again Saturday morning. 

[jeffrey-wimberly]

Got called down to my fathers place today. He wanted to get some things done that require two people. While their my niece and her husband came down to look at the work that's being done on the west wing. It's starting to look like a house now instead of a bunch of framed walls. So I went around with them and we all inspected the quality of the work. It pretty good overall. Not ready to move into yet but it's getting there. The floor plan is open concept. With the exception of the bathrooms and bedrooms you can go into each area unhindered by doors and you can see quite well from one room to another. But I ended being on my way too long and now my knees, hips, back and shoulders are giving me plenty of grief. I hope I can get some sleep tonight. Looks like tomorrow will be a sunny day with a high in the 70's. I was a bit surprised that nobody asked what that big loco on the Sundown shop track was this morning. That's my second largest loco and it can take 18" radius curves and #4 turnouts all day long. So can my biggest one.

Time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.

[Lehigh Valley 2089]

Getting late. Night everyone.

[ChiefEagles]

laz 57

The answer is WHY.

WHY did he do it/

What made him do it?

Who brainwashed him and his brother?

Lots o questions and with a dead lifeless body NO answers.

Food for thought.

laz57

 

Why they should have not killed him on the spot and saved us tax money.  The above is it.  Once he is dead, it harder to determine all of the above.

Dogs were not deemed dangerous.  Drunk neighbor who had harassed them through the fence continously, entered the fenced in back yard [with sign on the gate] where he had been told not to go, got attached.  Pretty bad but NC General Statute says, if harassed prsent or past and trespassing on private property, dog is not deemed dangerous.  That was our findings.  When in hospital, he first admitted he was not suppose to be there and was drinking.  Later changed his story to the dog unlatched the gate and they all came out and got him in driveway.  Three animal control officers testified impossible for dog to do unless it had fingers.  Hearing started at 11 AM and ended at 3 PM with no lunch break.  LOOONG!

Storms came through.  Tornado warnings north of us in VA with damage.  None at lake house or here.  Good rains.

I understand that Jack was on his usual stealth investigation in finding the last bomber.  Seems he found the torn boat cover and called the owner to investigate.   Got watch that old Yank.  He's sneaky.

Off to bed.  Parade tomorrow AM.

[rtraincollector]

KRM

rtraincollector

Amen he's in custody YEAH!! now the ()*&^%$#@!~ has to deal with system.

 

Now how to pay the bill for all of the over the top to catch one dumb kid??? Open your wallet RT too bad we can't make the media pay with some of the money they got from the commercialism on slot they forced on us today. They should of saved us the money and killed the dumb kid, he will be on the tax payers dime till way past the end of me. . The waste of people and resources was the worst I have ever seen in my 61 years. WTF? Now we will need to thank all of the guys that got OT and had Donuts today on the Gov dime.  Come ON!!!! what is wrong here?????  I wish I was out there today and wanted to commit a crime. It would of been a cake walk.   Shame on us all. Law and Order is out of control. One dumb kid stops the world???????????????

Now don't get me wrong here,,, I have the highest regard for these men and woman who put their lives on the line but I think that their management is out of control. It is driven by the political a$$holes who put these men and woman out there in stupid numbers as working for the people when they just want to stay in office  and be re-elected. 

Lets look at this from another point Kev hopefully we can get info that might help prvent another insudace by taking him alive. ie who's working with him ect probably not but you never know. Thats why it was inportant to take him alive. Yes for fiancial purpose yeah blow him away and end it. But remember he's just a pawn in this they did not act alone they acted with backing from some where

[charliebrown]

Good Morning All!

It is a whole 28 degrees here this morning. Going to high in the mid 40's. Some spring so far. It has been quiet on the pot ... maybe now that some of those yorkers are back things will pick back up.

I agree with rtraincollector I wanna see some pics from the trip.

Ran the trains for a few laps last night. Still trying to figure out the layout in my mind. Hope to have a foundation started this weekend.

Off to do some dream shopping and surfing.

Hope everyone is safe from storms and such. Have a great day!

From the thumb of Mi

[sir james I]

Had a great time but after breakfast we  will be loading and heading for home...S.J. 

[Blueberryhill RR]

GoodMorning from Blueberryhill RR....

It is a cold and cloudy 40 degrees. Going up to 56 today with some sunshine.

Today is an easy day. I have the usual chores to do and a train project to work on. Lunch and a nap, for sure.

Dining car has Cheerios for breakfast.

Y'all have a great Saturday.

Chuck

[ChiefEagles]

Morning.  Cloudy and chilly.  Suppose to clear and be cooler but still OK.  Had clean yard and drive.  Now pine tree blooms from neighbor's trees everywhere.

Got to get ready to do the Boss Hog ride in the Rec Day Parade and welcome for kids opening of BASEBALL/SOFTBALL season.

Hope all have a safe trip home from York.

Our news stays on local for an extra hour on Saturday and Sunday.  Switched to Fox and Friends.  Are they always critical and negative about everything????  Critizing the news conferences, who lead them and LE action.   Changed to CNN. 

Have a great weekend, all. 

[Demay]

Konbanwa,

The weather was vastly different today than the past week or so: the high probably only reached 45 and it rained most of the afternoon and evening.  The base had planned a power outage for about 10 hours starting at 0600.  So last night before bed I cranked up the refrigerator and freezer and then woke up this morning at 0545 to make some bacon and hardboiled eggs so the kids and I could have a hot breakfast even though the power would be out.  It turns out our part of the base was not affected by the outage and I was robbed of over an hour of sleep as the youngest did not wake up until 0700.  Oh well, I’m glad we had power all day.  I did have time to complete the homemade bacon today: I took the pork belly out of the refrigerator and then smoked it.  After it cooled a little, I sliced off a few pieces and fried in a pan for a couple of minutes.   I do believe I will never buy store-bought, packaged bacon again as it turned out great.  I’ll start another pork belly tomorrow and will try pure maple syrup this time instead of the honey.   The honey did not cut the salt cure as much I would have liked, but it was still great.  My two boys would have eaten all of it today if I would have let them.  It’s just about bedtime here and we Sunday school and church in the morning.

I’m thankful order has been restored to Boston; the law enforcement folks up there did a great job in my opinion.  I also read about some of the heroes (firemen) who died in the plant explosion in Texas.  Those were some brave folks indeed.

Great job Jake!   That should look great on the scholarship applications.

Ryan – That’s great you were able to meet the guys at York.  I’m like Kev and hoping to make it there someday too, but I think my drive might be a bit longer than his.

SJ – Thanks for sharing your York memories with us.  I figured you were able to hear the sounds before buying one.  I’m sure they’ll sell for less than $200 soon as well.  I paid significantly less than retail for the one WBB loco I have; it’s a great engine and I am very pleased with its sound and performance.  Have a safe trip back home.

Sayonara,

Joe

[fifedog]

Mornin' boys.  Mornin' English.  Breezy & 50 here in the Mid-Atlantic region.  Ain't sure what's in store for me today.  Certainly have had my fill of the news viewing.

Well, my search for Lionel Generals yielded negative results...almost.  Found a gent who has the sweet boxed set by LCCA, and he will ship them to me this week.  I dragged poor Brent all over the fairgrounds yesterday trying to find a compensatory purchase, but glad I was finally able to seal-the-deal this morning.   As Wifey put it,"I see you're not going to be happy unless you get them..."  I bought Brent Wings-and-Yeungs for his patience last night.  Tough drive home in the downpour.

A fine turn-out for the Pot-pic yesterday.  Always the best part of my trip.  Got to meet AFRay.  HudsonJohn supplied us cream from the "stoe-ah..." 

Hope everyone has a safe trip home, including Buckeye from his Baltimoe-ah/Philly trip.

[Lehigh Valley 2089]

Good morning.

Plan on going up to Grandmother's today. Hope to get some work done on the 109, caboose, and scholarship.

[blownout cylinder]

Good Morning

Back to winter ...for another winter weekend... High today ...29F with windchill of 16F...and snowflurries...not expecting much in the way of accumulation though...

Got some things to do around our kitchen tile situmication ...like trying to find my tile cutters...again..typical thing around this house to misplace/lose/jumble/toss in air/who knows.....so...like the usual thing...go and find it first...THEN can do things..

Next monday...get to go to Oncologist for check up routine..and bloodwork for other doctor..then echo for heart specialist...then...blaah blaahh blahh

Have a good day!!

[RockIsland52]

rtraincollector

KRM

rtraincollector

Amen he's in custody YEAH!! now the ()*&^%$#@!~ has to deal with system.

 

Now how to pay the bill for all of the over the top to catch one dumb kid??? Open your wallet RT too bad we can't make the media pay with some of the money they got from the commercialism on slot they forced on us today. They should of saved us the money and killed the dumb kid, he will be on the tax payers dime till way past the end of me. . The waste of people and resources was the worst I have ever seen in my 61 years. WTF? Now we will need to thank all of the guys that got OT and had Donuts today on the Gov dime.  Come ON!!!! what is wrong here?????  I wish I was out there today and wanted to commit a crime. It would of been a cake walk.   Shame on us all. Law and Order is out of control. One dumb kid stops the world???????????????

Now don't get me wrong here,,, I have the highest regard for these men and woman who put their lives on the line but I think that their management is out of control. It is driven by the political a$$holes who put these men and woman out there in stupid numbers as working for the people when they just want to stay in office  and be re-elected. 

Lets look at this from another point Kev hopefully we can get info that might help prvent another insudace by taking him alive. ie who's working with him ect probably not but you never know. Thats why it was inportant to take him alive. Yes for fiancial purpose yeah blow him away and end it. But remember he's just a pawn in this they did not act alone they acted with backing from some where

Five days of carnage, loss, and terror in metro Boston is over, at least for those who were not directly harmed.  

But it will never be over for the families and friends of those who lost their lives.  It is not over for the maimed and wounded (180+), dozens of whom remain in area hospitals.  It is not over for their families and friends.  It probably isn't over for those tens of thousands here who had a close brush with death, those who but for the grace of God or sheer luck, were not killed or wounded. 

And it is not over for each and every one of us who came to the realization nearly 12 years ago that the U.S. is no longer insulated from those who would hate and attack the very freedoms and way of life on which this country was built, built with blood and ultimate sacrifice.

I agree with RT that apprehending the remaining bomber relatively intact is of paramount importance to determine if others were complicit in the lethal activities of the two.  We must leave no stone left unturned until this matter has been thoroughly investigated. 

KEV.......re “how to pay the bill for all of the over the top to catch one dumb kid???”    

I think you lost the very purpose and importance of this level of response to the bombings and terrorism on our own soil, toward the apprehension of the two bombers.  It was not simply cost, votes, or the elimination of the imminent danger.  If nothing else, the response sends a powerful message to those who would do us harm and threaten our way of life, from within or otherwise. 

Opinion?  Age of those with opinions?  That IS the opinion of the 1,000,000+ local residents in my corner of the U.S. who lived through it and were directly and indirectly affected here this past week.  Count my family among them.  My own granddaughter and son-in-law were in Boston the day of the bombings.  And right now someone with whom we train (our dog) is lying in a Boston hospital minus his limbs.  My personal list goes on, but I digress.

Looking back at the isolationism and head-in-the-sand avoidance of our forefathers during the ramp up to WWII, and considering this massacre and the level of response, my WWII vet Dad (RIP) would have summarized this effort and the cost thusly: “Cheap at twice the price.” 

That is my opinion. 

Jack

[cnw1995]

Aloha from a sunny but freezing Chicagoland where we are drying out. Glad Boston can breath a sign of relief. Working at church this afternoon and tomorrow. Need to prep for anniversary on Tues.

Glad to hear the Yorkies had fun.

Jacke, congratulations on being in the top 10%.

JoeD, you have made me hungry!  

[KRM]

Like Doug said clear and cold.

Marseilles is still under water and will be for the next few days.

Jack,

 Interesting to me that YOU can talk and claim to KNOW  the opinions for all of those 1,000,000+ local residents in your corner of the U.S. "That IS the opinion of the 1,000,000+ local residents in my corner of the U.S. who lived through it and were directly and indirectly affected here this past week.  Count my family among them." Get off your  

Speaking only for myself,

I feel you guys misread the main points in my post. Most of it was a reflection on media overkill and  political overreaction and it's cost. Weather it was handled right or wrong only time will tell. I truly doubt that it will stop the next line of attacks by people intent on doing so and they will relish in the glow of the media hype and knowledge that they are effecting so many. We tend to feed them what they are looking for.

Unforeseen  things happen all of the time to good and bad people and if it is in your back yard then it is more meaningful to you than others. I doubt the people in the Texas town that got blown up were paying much mind to the Boston area the last few days. I would also think that those who are dealing with flood waters in their houses have much else to think about. But maybe they should ask your advice on what to dwell on.

And that is my opinion. 

Prayers for All in need,  Good day!

BTW Ryan, you are right. I looked up the cabinet I got and the list price for it is $1,089.00 

[jeffrey-wimberly]

Good morning, afternoon, whatever. It's 62° with 31% humidity. It's sunny and the high will be 70°.


Got a late start today. I'm very sore from yesterday and I am moving very slow. I feel like I've been hit by a jet propelled FP7 attempting to break the land speed record for a railroad locomotive. I think I'll just stay home today and hold down the bed.

[SPMan]

Good morning all,

V8 Dennis, thanks for the report on the One Day paint job.  Sounds like they are the best for lower cost paint jobs.

Re Boston manhunt etc.  The media does go nuts over this stuff but it is the price we pay for a free press.  Glad they took the suspect alive though.  Maybe we can find out more about why?  We are still talking about conspiracy theories since Jack Ruby shot Oswalt after all these years.

later,

Ray

 

 

[RockIsland52]

KRM

Jack,

 Interesting to me that YOU can talk and claim to KNOW  the opinions for all of those 1,000,000+ local residents in your corner of the U.S. "That IS the opinion of the 1,000,000+ local residents in my corner of the U.S. who lived through it and were directly and indirectly affected here this past week.  Count my family among them."

Get off your  

KEV......get real.  You, I , and each of us knows that the terms "all" or "none" seldom apply to anything.  You are parsing words. 

But you and I would be very hard-pressed to find a significant portion of that 1,000,000+,  grousing about the massive LE and civilian effort and the expense, either during and/or after these tragic events.  I forgot to mention the economic hardship on the countless metropolitan businesses, large and small, that had to close as a matter of public safety and civic duty.  And yes, re your mention of Dunkin Donuts, a few of the local DDs, with the prior express permission of LE and local authorities, did remain open....... to feed those on the front lines.  Good for them. 

_______________________________________________________________________________________.      

Speaking only for myself,

I feel you guys misread the main points in my post. Most of it was a reflection on media overkill and  political overreaction and it's cost.

KEV........maybe you should have chosen your words a bit more carefully. 

Media overkill was evident, agreed.  But it was that same media overkill that plastered the air waves with enhanced photographs and video of the suspects, "overkill" that brought the public out of the woodwork with actionable and effective tips:  i.e., the license plate numers and make/year/color of the vehicles the suspects were (actively) driving after the blasts.  In two instances those vehicles were located within minutes of the airing by the media, enabling LE to close in on and keep the heat on the bombers (Cambridge, Watertown).  There were more of these civilian contributions due to the media coverage which I won't go into here. 

Political overreaction?  We should only hope that our Congressmen and Senators could act this decisively, this swiftly, and with this level of bipartisanship on other weighty matters as they did here when it was really needed. 

Cost?  When public safety and lives remain in continued imminent danger as was the case here, cost has to take a back seat.  Now let's talk about results.  Short term that  "overreaction" saved more lives and reduced costs by ending this and nailing the bombers before they had an opportunity to either continue their assault or escape.  These two were still armed, still carried explosives, and were still using them until they were stopped.  Justice will not be delayed.

You need to clarify your position on the limitations you believe should have been placed on the media and on LE in response to the Boston bombings.  My position is clear: the response was appropriate and effective.  The imminent threat was eliminated.  It sent the right message to others, foreign or domestic, contemplating similar terrorism against the citizens of the U.S.  And the payback was in the results.  With every bold and decisive act comes a price to be paid. 

_________________________________________________________________________________________

Weather it was handled right or wrong only time will tell. I truly doubt that it will stop the next line of attacks by people intent on doing so and they will relish in the glow of the media hype and knowledge that they are effecting so many. We tend to feed them what they are looking for.

My Dad (RIP) always used to say that we remember the longest and regret the most the things in life we did not do.  I am pretty sure you, I, and the rest of us here hope and pray that none of the three tragedies that befell our nation this past week or so will have been suffered in vain, and that the actions taken will bear fruit. 

 _____________________________________________________________________________________

Unforeseen  things happen all of the time to good and bad people and if it is in your back yard then it is more meaningful to you than others. I doubt the people in the Texas town that got blown up were paying much mind to the Boston area the last few days. I would also think that those who are dealing with flood waters in their houses have much else to think about.

The U.S. is my/your back yard.  All three incidents should be meaningful to each of us, no matter where that tragedy occured.......whether it be the bombings in Boston, the Texas blast, or the flood waters in your old home town.  Lives, safety, and suffering know no state lines.  I would hope that when those in need are rightfully consumed with their own dilemma that the empathy, concern, sympathy, and support of others would know no boundaries.  I did not say we should dwell on one tragedy over another.

_____________________________________________________________________________________

But maybe they should ask your advice on what to dwell on.

Sarcasm and personal attacks have no place here, do not support your position, and serve no useful purpose.

______________________________________________________________________________________   

And that is my opinion. 

And mine.

Prayers for All in need,  Good day!

My sentiments as well.

Jack.

[LawsonFarmsRR]

KRM

rtraincollector

Amen he's in custody YEAH!! now the freakin' turkey has to deal with system.

 

Now how to pay the bill for all of the over the top to catch one dumb kid??? Open your wallet RT too bad we can't make the media pay with some of the money they got from the commercialism on slot they forced on us today. They should of saved us the money and killed the dumb kid, he will be on the tax payers dime till way past the end of me. . The waste of people and resources was the worst I have ever seen in my 61 years. WTF? Now we will need to thank all of the guys that got OT and had Donuts today on the Gov dime.  Come ON!!!! what is wrong here?????  I wish I was out there today and wanted to commit a crime. It would of been a cake walk.   Shame on us all. Law and Order is out of control. One dumb kid stops the world???????????????

Now don't get me wrong here,,, I have the highest regard for these men and woman who put their lives on the line but I think that their management is out of control. It is driven by the political a$$holes who put these men and woman out there in stupid numbers as working for the people when they just want to stay in office  and be re-elected. 

Kev - I agree with you 100%. As I posted on facebook on Brent's site "To bad they didn't get rid of the 19 yo. Now they will spend all the money and time, blame his brother, and then give him a short jail time.

And on Brutus's site "will the American people get justice? With our court system, our attorney system and the leniency in sentencing, I doubt we will get justice."

Pat

[RockIsland52]

Pat......I am sure many if not most of us feel the same way.  Last night before the second one was caught I said to my wife that a bullet would be fast, cheap, and make folks feel vidicated and safe. 

After cooling off, and in this instance, I came to think this "kid" is worth far more dead than alive.  Until we get some more answers and maybe some more leads.  My bet is that long term he will not receive the same treatment as a normal murdering thug and will face the Feds and a death sentence for federal and terrorist crimes.  He will ultimately get treated like Timothy McVeigh, the domestic terrorist from the Oklahoma City bombings, executed 13 years ago. 

Jack

[KRM]

LawsonFarmsRR

KRM

rtraincollector

Amen he's in custody YEAH!! now the freakin' turkey has to deal with system.

 

Now how to pay the bill for all of the over the top to catch one dumb kid??? Open your wallet RT too bad we can't make the media pay with some of the money they got from the commercialism on slot they forced on us today. They should of saved us the money and killed the dumb kid, he will be on the tax payers dime till way past the end of me. . The waste of people and resources was the worst I have ever seen in my 61 years. WTF? Now we will need to thank all of the guys that got OT and had Donuts today on the Gov dime.  Come ON!!!! what is wrong here?????  I wish I was out there today and wanted to commit a crime. It would of been a cake walk.   Shame on us all. Law and Order is out of control. One dumb kid stops the world???????????????

Now don't get me wrong here,,, I have the highest regard for these men and woman who put their lives on the line but I think that their management is out of control. It is driven by the political a$$holes who put these men and woman out there in stupid numbers as working for the people when they just want to stay in office  and be re-elected. 

Kev - I agree with you 100%. As I posted on facebook on Brent's site "To bad they didn't get rid of the 19 yo. Now they will spend all the money and time, blame his brother, and then give him a short jail time.

And on Brutus's site "will the American people get justice? With our court system, our attorney system and the leniency in sentencing, I doubt we will get justice."

Pat

Thanks Pat,

I am not one to Push my opinions on anyone but I do reserve the right to have my own and speak it without point counter point.   I will leave the last word to the ones that feel  the need for it. 

 I think the Navy Seal approach would of served us all better.  JMHO

Most of us I think, but not sure, but for sure in my case, see someone and something completely different when we look in the mirror than others see when they look at us. 

I see my ALCO 200 series chassis sold on the bay. I would of liked to get more but it will have to do.  You can never tell how they will sell. It had 99 views and 10 watchers but only 2 bids. 

 You guys have a good night. 

Especially you Jack.  Don't get upset if the whole world does not fall in line behind you and your opinions. Your still okay with me and I for one enjoy the differences of opinions we share here on the pot. It gives me a reason to reflect on my opinions. I have even been known to change my mind about things.

And BTW Jack, 

 I am with you on this and none was intended. " Sarcasm and personal attacks have no place here, do not support your position, and serve no useful purpose"      but Sarcasm and personal attacks can be done in direct ways as well as indirect ways as some are the master of.... I tend to be direct. Others not.

[RedfireS197]

Kev,

        If you ever want to increase funds from auctioning an item, just let me know.  There's a way you can bump things up with help from others.

Navy Seal approach?  That would've been too gentle for what that scumbag did. 

[fifedog]

Evenin' boys.

[LawsonFarmsRR]

fifedog

Evenin' boys.

???????????????

Pat

[blownout cylinder]

Just wait and see what transpired through the mind of this particular perp...no need for all the trouble here....

[jeffrey-wimberly]

Yes, let's move on to something else.

[Zero Export]

Good evening

I am tired

I ONLY Breezed through the posts

Lets just remember were all here by a common bond 

I met 20 people on friday that I have never met face to face before.  I was NERVOUS I dont do crowds.  How ever, OUR COMMON BOND made it like i knew these folks my whole life

Ryan

[KRM]

jeffrey-wimberly

Yes, let's move on to something else.

BOC and Jeffery, I agree. Lets move on.  

 Better days are ahead. 

What about Train news?? 

[dougdagrump]

Evenin' All.

Been runnin' on fumes all week but got the Better-Half's "Relay For Life" display at the site very early this morning. About 11:30 my work was done so I came home and SNOOZED for about three hours. Got to be back in the early morning tomorrow to help the ladies pack up.

re: Boston, Was there an over-reaction by LE with the complete lockdown and manpower, maybe. But to err on the side of safety for the "general populace" is an error I will accept in this case, especially after hearing/seeing the shootout that ocurred. I haven't heard anything like that in many, many years. Can't imagine what might have happened had the area not been on lockdown. My only disapointment so far is that he hasn't been declared an "enemy combatant" to really drag his butt over the coals to find out any other accomplices.

Later all.