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Posted by Bob Keller on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:49 PM

Don't know why this old thread was brought back to life, but we won't be sub-dividing.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:50 PM

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Rich,

I just found a set that brings together both Lionel and American Flyer in a way few collectors consider: Using up excess inventory to complete cheapie sets! As we all know, some of Lionel's most desirable components can be found in what originally sold as bottom of the line inexpensive Scout sets.

Consider this unique find: American Flyer set 20120 was produced in 1960 and included an Atlantic 21161 steam locomotive that only ran forward only along with Pikemaster MKT boxcar, AF caboose, PRR gondola and NH stake flat. Certainly nothing special. The one I found includes the much more desirable Prestone Car Care 21161 along with the hard-to-find green T&P gondola with large lettering. Not even the much more desirable uncataloged Prestone Set No. 20188 includes that gondola!

Tim

Tim here's another way to combine both O and S at the same time. I bet a lot don't know about But sure some do. Gargraves offers a 37" 5 rail flex track for O & S so you could either on it. #210-401

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:33 PM

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Tim here's another way to combine both O and S at the same time. I bet a lot don't know about But sure some do. Gargraves offers a 37" 5 rail flex track for O & S so you could either on it. #210-401

The O/S GarGraves track is 4 rail, not 5 rail.

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Posted by Nobles1 on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 3:36 PM
Yes, Rich I agree with you. I am new to the forum and was surprised that the scales are not divided up. It can't be too difficult, "O Gauge Railroading forum is divided up by gauge and interest. While I am mainly a flyer guy I do some fiddling with O gauge also, guess I am somewhat of a generalist. At any rate, it would be easier when I am looking for a thread on a subject to just look through either Flyer, Lionel, or Standard gauge subjects. Come on Kalmbach, It cannot be that hard!
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Posted by teledoc on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:28 PM

Gargraves does in fact sell 5 rail track, listed under specialty track; part # 501-201, and also 5 rail trestle track which is much narrower than the 501-201 track.  The only train that I know of that actually needs 5 rail track is a HOGE Shovelnose locomotive.  It was produced in 1935 as the Shovelnose Streamliner with 3 cars.  The extra 2 rails (copper bar) are for the Bell and Buzzer inside the locomotive.  I own this set, complete with track lockon (5 contact) and HOGE Transformer.  I basically have the complete set, minus the set box.

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Posted by teledoc on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:39 PM

This is a picture of the actual HOGE 5 rail track with the lockon attached.  All the other HOGE trains used 3 rail.

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Posted by thesiding on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:08 PM

OK Now  Time to throw in a Monkey Wrench here.   AND this can become a seperate topic as well

                         Flyer vs Lionel O vs S S vs HO the list is endless

BUT IN THE FUTURE WHO will be buying this stuff twenty years from now ANY gauge ??????????

Still go to a many shows as I can Auctions E bay  Flea Market and the good ole Garage Yard Tag Sale

and no one is buying this for the younger set regardless of gauge  MOST of the time

Had one bit of hope while selling stuff at a Church Sale

Two seperate sales two different children One specifically asking vendors "Where's the Trains?"

And last time a kid buying HO his name              Lionel

Even so             The future........................................................................................

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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:09 PM

ADCX Rob

rtraincollector
Tim here's another way to combine both O and S at the same time. I bet a lot don't know about But sure some do. Gargraves offers a 37" 5 rail flex track for O & S so you could either on it. #210-401

The O/S GarGraves track is 4 rail, not 5 rail.

Oops my bust lol  must of been reading two different type at same time Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:09 PM

teledoc
Gargraves does in fact sell 5 rail track, listed under specialty track; part # 501-201,

Just as long as you realize that this product has no rails spaced for "S" Gauge.

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Posted by overlandflyer on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:03 PM

Ogaugeoverlord

Don't know why this old thread was brought back to life, but we won't be sub-dividing.

how about simply fixing the tag cloud then?  that is one way to handle topics, but so little space is dedicated to the window, it doesn't even get past  "A" anymore. long ago i tried to use this poorly handled feature by creating the "A Marx fan" tag, but the management here somehow had a problem with that eventually barring that tag from inclusion in the cloud.

it's not rocket science, but it does take understanding the concept.  if the webmaster would do a little homework, the tag cloud, along with proper use of tags by posters, would handle sub categories as its designed to.

good luck, right?
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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:13 PM

ADCX Rob

teledoc
Gargraves does in fact sell 5 rail track, listed under specialty track; part # 501-201,

Just as long as you realize that this product has no rails spaced for "S" Gauge.

yes but its for something else 

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Posted by wallyworld on Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:17 PM

What does this have to do with subdividing the forum by gauge? As for your problem, try Ebay. As far as kids and trains in the future, why worry about it? 

Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has.

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