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Classic Toy Trains Forums - Lionel vs. American Flyer

  • I am sick of opening up threads on the CTT forum with words such as track, couplers, transformers, switches, etc. only to find that the thread relates to Lionel.  Doesn't anyone out there own American Flyer?  Of course we do.  But to get the proper attention, we always have to add the words American Flyer somewhere in our title.  Model railroading discrimination!

    The byline for the CTT forum reads: "Interested in O gauge, S gauge, and Standard gauge toy trains? Are you a fan of Lionel, MTH, American Flyer, and other brands of toy trains made today and in the past? If so, the Classic Toy Trains Toy train operating and collecting forum is just for you".

    How hard would it be to subdivide the CTT forum into three parts: O gauge, S gauge, and Standard gauge.  I volunteer to do the necessary programming.

    Now I realize that other scales are sometimes combined like the MRR forums where HO gauge and N gauge do not have their own subdivision.  However, the issue as between those two gauges are similar.  The manufacturers of both scales are often the same.  O gauge and S gauge come from different manufacturers, and the issues are usually completely different.

    Can we hear from the American Flyer collectors?  How do you Lionel guys feel about this?

    Rich

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  • I am one of those folks that prefer to see less seperation, not more. While I am primariliy a Lionel guy, I have some flyer, and do know more than a little about them.
    If threads are started on the main board about Flyer, I am very likely to look at them, and perhaps make a comment.
    If a seperate Flyer board is created, I probably will never go to it.

  • I don't see an issue here.  It's not that hard to label a thread "AF" or "Flyer", and if I don't see those words I just assume the thread is for another scale.  I think the people who are REALLY getting discriminated against are the scale modelers in O and S.  They truly seem to have no place to post.  They are certainly not categorized under "Toy Trains", and the larger scales are almost never mentioned in the MRR forums.  A point raised only recently in the other forum by a fellow On30 modeler.

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  • cwburfle

    I am one of those folks that prefer to see less seperation, not more. While I am primariliy a Lionel guy, I have some flyer, and do know more than a little about them.
    If threads are started on the main board about Flyer, I am very likely to look at them, and perhaps make a comment.


    If a separate Flyer board is created, I probably will never go to it.

    Even though you own some American Flyer stuff?  Geez, that doesn't seem to be a reasonable stance.

  • stebbycentral

    I don't see an issue here.  It's not that hard to label a thread "AF" or "Flyer", and if I don't see those words I just assume the thread is for another scale.  I think the people who are REALLY getting discriminated against are the scale modelers in O and S.  They truly seem to have no place to post.  They are certainly not categorized under "Toy Trains", and the larger scales are almost never mentioned in the MRR forums.  A point raised only recently in the other forum by a fellow On30 modeler.

    stebby,

    That's my point.  You have to title the thread to include the words American Flyer.  As it is now, you have to plow through innumerable threads only to discover each time that the issue relates to Lionel.  Maybe if all of those Lionel threads included the word Lionel in the title, it wouldn't be an issue, but that is not the case.

    Rich

  • This topic has come up before, and we're not inclined to subdivide the forum simply because it would divide the participation of the forum into even smaller batches of conversation.

    Bob Keller Classic Toy Trains

  • I don't think this forum should be any more divided that it is right now either, because where does it end?  Scale?  Hi-rail? Tin-plate?  Post-war?  Pre-War? Unaltered Vintage? Kit-bashed? AC? DC? DCC?  I simply ignore all posts that don't have some type of American Flyer buzz-word in it's title.  Do I miss some Flyer posts?  Probably.  But that's the way it goes.

    Regards,

    Timboy 

  • ]Even though you own some American Flyer stuff?  Geez, that doesn't seem to be a reasonable stance.

    See Bob Keller's post.
    I don't have enough free time, or American Flyer trains to make it worth my time.
    I know quite a bit about HO and N scale Model Railroading too, and own more HO/N than American Flyer. Still, I don't visit boards on the subject either.
    There are other things besides trains.

  • I'd say putting AF in the thread title is the easiest solution and it does work. Just look at Northwoods Flyer's thread on Pre-War American Flyer. Ignoring the chat only threads, it has the highest number of views on the CTT forum. 

      Now, if you really want to feel sorry for someone think of those of us looking for threads on things like Bing, Hafner, KBN, Marx, and Moskabel.

  • What about us MARX fans?

    I think once I got  used to this being one big open forum, I just automaticly add "Marx" to my titles when posting a new thread if I want some specific information re: Marx trains.

    Same should go for AF, Lionel, Atlas, or MTH

      Have fun with your trains

  • Whats so hard about adding AF to the thread?.Marx and others are marked when posted. No big deal as is.

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  • If they were separated I might have missed Timboys thread on the rebuilding of his AF layout. That would have been tragic! I know O and S  are different but they are also a lot alike .

    Jason   

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  • vsmith

    What about us MARX fans?

    I think once I got  used to this being one big open forum, I just automaticly add "Marx" to my titles when posting a new thread if I want some specific information re: Marx trains.

    Same should go for AF, Lionel, Atlas, or MTH

     

      Another Marx fan here.Also like Lionel.

    Have some Marx fun today.

  • Seems most are labeled.  Just look:  American Flier layout, Lionel Prewar 244, Atlas 21 Century 0-27, Super 0 dilemma, Lionel 2011 RTR catalog, Lionel 022 switches, Mystery Set (Atlas).

    I don't see a problem.

    wyomingscout

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  • Leave it alone.  I like reading all the posts.  If you want to get picky I have prewar and post war.  I have latch couplers and modern couplers.  I just read something on KD couplers.  Half the fun it seeing what is out there.

    I have HO, N, O, and Standard.  I wish I had some S and may have some in the future.  More room, and more money..........Not a problem.

     

    Bob