Well good Afternoon Fans
Since I couldn't get the last pic to go bigger I'll try this one
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Hello Tom and all in
Pint of mild for me please. I'm afraid pressure of work has kept me away, so this is not able to be a proper inclusive post. I've got some catching up to do but at least I've certainly not forgotten the place! Only had a chance to scan the pictures recently (and soem great stuff there).
I'll get going and try to find a bit of time to study things in more detail!
Regards
DL
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
ALLAN Glad you are enjoying the photos.
Many thanks for those links. I am pretty sure that is very hard to get tickets for a Newcastle game they are well supported. I see Kevin Keegan was one of their most successful managers, it was a real shame they did not win the league that year. I remember a sign outside of a Newcastle church a few years back. The sign said, "What would you do if Jesus came to Newcastle?" someone had written underneath " Move Malcolm Macdonald to inside right" (I'm afraid this will mean nothing to our American friends).
I wonder if Newcastle Brown is as strong as it was in the 1960s. My Geordie mate, who I worked with many years ago, swore there was a ward in Newcastle General Hospital solely for ‘Broon' drinkers.
I did not know that NZ was the first railway to use ‘Pacifics'; it is great what you learn at Our Place.
JAMES Glad you had a great time on your birthday.
You comment about a inventory reminded me about when I went to train shows, if I hadn't got my list I always bought an old magazine I already had.
If you ever get to San Diego a tour of the 5 Historic boats is very well worth it, bit do the Russian Submarine first as the water tight doors are a bit awkward if you are tired, at least for an old one like me. On the Berkeley you can visit the engine room and see the boilers, unfortunately the photo I took of them as not come out.
It will be good to read about that short line at Jamestown ND, we visited a line at Jamestown California, I will show the photos when I get a bit more on with my California notes at the bar.
Yes the Olympian Hiawatha was a train to be admired.
ERIC Real glad you passed your test at rehab yesterday and you are feeling fine again.
Glad we are going to see more of Hans's great photos. I would be good to see some photos of the models he builds.
Thanks for the photo of the T21 Switcher; I cannot recall seeing a coupled locomotive with such a big gap between the center driving wheels. What is the locomotive? No 4 in the background.
JAN YES the Santa Fe station does have a lot of style.
I often wonder what the UK locomotives would have looked like, in later days if they had adopted Brunel's 7ft gauge and the UK had a larger loading gauge.
Those are really great pictures of the Olympian Hiawatha; the dome cars must have looked very futuristic when they were first introduced, thanks for sharing.
Many thanks for the Scottish Toast.
LARS Sorry to here the news about the wife's mother's health. I know when she is with you she will get the very best of care.
Despite you being busy at the present you have provided another great set of book covers, many thanks. Love the artwork on the Western Pacific books, and doesn't that photo on the SP Sunset Limited make you want to cross the tracks and climb aboard.
FERGIE Many thanks for the photo of your fine ship. Hopefully you will be able to repair her without a visit to the dry dock.
CM3 Thanks for the details on Lars's book covers.
It was the usual practice on BR to have the pilot locomotive leading, apart from the Great Western (who usually were different) who put the pilot loco inside. I think the streamlined LMS streamliners also had to have the assisting loco (if they ever needed it) on the inside as well.
Alls well with Zeppelin, the puncture repair kit as been found while Boris's shed was being cleaned out.
Hi Tom and all at the bar. The next couple-a-rounds are on me. My usual Guinness please. I just got back from Tampa, Fl. The weather was passable, actually better than Ms. I just don't really care for the place. It's too much like a big city. Hustle and bustle, heavy traffic, crime and rude people. I have met some nice people there, but for the most part, I wouldn't want to live there. My brother-in -law has a nice place there. He has a trucking company that handles all the waste management for the state of Florida. That is why we went there because he has much contacts for trucks and trailers. My son found a Peterbilt truck that needs some work. It looks pretty sound, but could use some tlc. I came back with my wife and he is staying there to get the truck ready for the road. He is still looking for a dump trailer before he comes back. At that time, I will have to go back down there as he doesn't have his CDL yet. He and a CDL friend and myself plan to drive down and I will come back by myself. A lot of running around to be sure. I haven't even had a chance to check E-mail or go to "Our Place" since I've been back. I'm going to try to play catch-up, but probably won't get through but a few pages. Please forgive me if I don't personally respond to each and everyone of my friends at the cyberville watering hole. In fact, my presence may be spotty for a while as I have so much to do and so little time to do it. I wish I could be there in person and knock back a few malt whiskys and Guinnesses. Being so isolated down here from people with the same interests and tastes, makes me thankful to have a place like "Our Place" to come to.
BTW, I have switched horses in mid stream. I have put the DD1 engine on the back burner and am now working on plans for a class D, 1-C-1 engine. Jan and Per have inspired me to want to build that particular engine. I don't have much information available about it, except for a few pictures. I'm drawing plans for it's construction. They are just about complete and I will try to post a picture of the plans when it is done. I am missing one vital piece of information, if someone can provide it. I need the overall width of the engine. I am guessing 10'-6" (based on the width of the DD1), but I think it is too much.
CM3: I worked on the conversion of the USS Albany at the BNSY. It was initially a heavy cruiser converted to a guided missile cruiser. It was stripped of it's heavy guns and went on to become a flagship of the fleet.
Gunneral: I've enjoyed your NZ pictures and want to ask you something. I don't know if you do woodworking, but we have some mighty fine wood here that comes from NZ, It is called "Radiata pine" (I think). I understand it was planted there from seedlings from California and it grows very fast. Also, one of my favorite foods is mussels from NZ. They are featured at all the Chinese buffets here.
Pete: You mentioned geese. They are great "watchdogs". We used to have about 9 of them on our land, but dogs got most of them (I got some of the dogs as well). The rest flew the coop and took up residence in my next door neighbors pond.
Jan & Tom: An interesting note about steam turbines. According to one of my books, the UK had one in 1935 that ran on the London, Midland and Scottish Railway. It was called "Turbomotive" and served quite well for 300,000 miles until after the war and nationalization came, was converted into a conventional engine. Germany also experimented with steam turbines. The C & O also tried it out in 1947-48 with three turbine-electric engines, but were declared "hopelessly uneconomical" and scrapped.
Tom: Regressing a bit, I can remember the 50' in New York, where I could walk a few blocks to my local watering hole and meet up with the regulars. Those days are gone forever. Not only is it unsafe to "walk" to a bar in some neighborhoods, the clientele has totally changed. The last bar that I used to frequent, was taken over by drug dealers and other scum, so I don't go anymore. Besides it's cheaper to drink at home and off course at "Our Place". BTW, I did some design work on two Italian built frigates for the Venezuelian navy at Northrop Grumman 10 years ago. They had two MAN diesels and two GE gas turbines. They could be run all together or separately. The diesels were used mainly at slow speeds. One limped into the yard under one diesel and the other had to be towed in. One of the diesels had been cannibalized to keep the other one running. It was quite an interesting job, especially trying to mate American and metric components together. I made a point earlier that Marklin was considered a "toy" way back in it's early days before adults got their hands on them. Although they were highly detailed to scale, it didn't take long for adults to discover them as no longer "Toys". The prices they fetch, certainly has taken them out of the "toy" category.
I'm going to have to stop at this point, having gotten only up to page 115. I try to answer direct contacts first, but forgive me if I miss someone. As usual, I enjoy all the pictures that have been posted and I must say I am surprised at the actual train driving experience that some of you here have. There's a lot of good knowledge available that would be very difficult to find anywhere else. I appreciate all the knowledge that you share with us. I know so very little about trains compared to you so I feel I can't contribute much about trains that you don't already know. My coming to "Our Place", serves me as a vault for knowledge. I can provide you with a lot of other knowledge, but "trains", I'm afraid not. Later, Ron DD1
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon! Ooops, I am not even hungry this early morning. I'll just have a plain hamburger with some curly fries, please! Coffee!
Time flies, I don't know what happened to this Tuesday. It came and went before I knew it.
JanOlov – Class T21 was/is a very good switcher. You have a good view from the cab and the controls are easy to use. I liked to work on them. Some nice Hiawatha pictures!! It must have been very nice to sit in the last car and see the landscape passing by!Tom – I saw the doctor for a few minutes today and he was satisfied that everything went well yesterday. Let’s hope that you picked the right team (Snakes) for the World Series! There are snowy days in Arizona!! Maybe not in Phoenix, but not far from here. Flaggstaff is a very nice town. A lot of trains but a little bit too much snow in the winter. Lars – Sorry to hear the not so good news about Grandma! Hope everything goes well! Some very nice book covers. My favorite is the Sunset Limited!Fergie – I am glad you made it back to port safely. It seems like you are well “equipped” to survive all kinds of storms!Do you really use train wheels as anchors for your deep sea moorings? CM3 – No it is not a 4-8-0T, it has a very short tender. That and the angle make it looks lika a 4-8-0T.Good blonde story!DL – Hope to see you again soon!Pete – I don’t think there are any pictures of Hans’ models on the CD he sent to me. I’ll see what I can find. #4 in the background is a Class V3, a small diesel-hydraulic switcher. 400 hp.Nice pictures from Sacramento! Was that steam loco burning oil? Ron – Good to see you back! I think your son picked the right truck, a Peterbuilt! Do you know what year it was?Class D, the width is 132.7 inches (3,370 mm). I have a very simple drawing with some dimensions (from the Operator’s Manual) that I can scan and send to you or post it. If you need any more info on Class D, just let me know and I’ll try to provide it.
1976.
Eric
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Wednesday's Witticism
If you wake up feelin' halfway ‘tween "Oh Lord," and "My God," you overdid it!
Guten Morgen allerseits!
Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!
Long day yesterday, but today is a new opportunity to shine! Step right up ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n wash it all down with our freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee!
Petrol is at $2.49 (rounded) up at "Collusion Corner" - temps are expected to again be in the 80s (F) - 90s on the way! <ugh> Where's FALL?!?!?!?!?!?
Comments from the Proprietor:
OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place begins Saturday, October 6th at Noon!
Yes, I took the afternoon "off" . . . wonder if anyone noticed <grin>
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Tuesday - Oct 2nd:
Jan (JanOlov) at 7:45 AM: In the Confused Dept!! Vodka turns into Scotch Say what!?!?
I dare say that there aren't any sites quite like this one for innovation, inclusiveness ‘n maintaining a sense of theme. All who enter these premises does so with the knowledge that unless you are a willing participant - the doors swing both ways! <grin>
Boris, translate that bit o' something for us . . .
Round, cigars ‘n cash always welcome!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:11 AM: Not to be concerned about this joint - we'll muddle through! Thanx for the Email, by the by . . .
I watched the entire baseball game ‘n found it to be quite even . . . really a fine endorsement for the wild card in baseball. HOWEVER, the ending surely soured many. Not that the Rockies weren't coming on strong ‘n probably wudda won it - just that the "ump" blew the call. I watched it ‘n can only wonder why the call took so long - why the catcher seemed to "know" the guy missed the plate - ‘n why the injured runner didn't scamper back to touch the plate, as if waiting to be tagged out. Too many unexplained "things" . . .
Yeah, Patriots look awesome <what's new?> Surprise of the Sunday games had to be the Steelers losing to the Buzzards of Arizona (oooooops, Cardinals). <grin>
Thanx for the round - and - really appreciate your taking the time to provide us with those six book covers - in spite of having other things on your mind. Now THAT's dedication to the bar, Mate! 5- Salute to our Manager, the Larsman!
That Sunset Limited scene is awesome!
Fergie (Fergmiester) at 9:17 AM & Noon: Okay Skipper it works like THIS! You've been ‘round this joint long enough to KNOW the parameters (check out Page One of this Thread!!) You've just earned TWO <tweetings> for Rules Violations!! Rule #1 failure to greet the barkeep - and - Rule #2 failure to order a drink or food!
As Proprietor of this fine establishment, I will hold in abeyance any discharge of punishment until you've been given an opportunity to atone for your transgressions. If NOT - you've had it, Mate! <uh oh>
Fine looking vessel - THANX!
<Clarification for the curious: The Canadian Coast Guard is NOT a military organization, whereas the USCG is. "Thems" are civilians north of the border!>
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:36 AM: Outstanding effort with your "catch up" Post - looks like you covered the bases quite thoroughly!
Barring any interruptions to my busy, busy retirement life - I plan to get the info out this week regarding the Darts Challenge ‘n Grudge Match! Encouraged that our Ace Reporter high atop Mt. Mentor may be covering the event again. Best two out of three matches takes the Can-Am trophy for best in the county . . .
Good joke - something we've really missed round here since our Groan-o-Meter Guy dropped outta sight . . .
Many thanx for the round ‘n quarters. May have a bit of difficulty with the SFran blend - seems there's a "narc" watching this joint ‘n anything from the Bay Area is being "tagged" evidence! <oooooooooops>
Dan (DL-UK) at 12:04 PM: Brief visit is better than no visit! AND you greeted the barkeep ‘n ordered a drink!! <catch that,
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Gas dropped here today to $2.85 (excuse they use is that they the tanker trucks have to (are you ready for this) drive uphill to get to where we are - the last time I looked you have to drive uphill (at least one way, Awk) to get to anywhere around here. Baseball playoffs will be starting soon and all is ready; Varitek and Schilling shirts have been freshly washed (for the younger set) and they are begging to be allowed to "stay up late."
Fergie - All the ships at sea. Many thanks for the picture of your "base of operations."
DL - Hope to hear from you soon.
Pete stopped by with travelogue and pictures.
DD1 has returned. Thanks for the info. on USS Albany. I lived close enough to the yard when I was in Charlestown to hear the morning and evening gun on the Constitution. It was a gritty neighborhood to be sure, but some mighty fine people.
Eric - For real, I couldn't tell if that locomotive was a 4-8-0T or not.
Awhile back, somebody was talking about Chessie (the cat). The C&O Historical Society recently released a whole bunch of DVDs of old C&O films. One of them is titled "Chessie - Her Story." It's a good one and available from the C&O Historical Society.
The September issue of C&O History is devoted to Covington, Virginia - the station there has recently been restored. A friend called me last night and told me all about the "grand reopening" and the reception. They have done a beautiful job. Next up is the freight house. This was built in 1890 and was the passenger station until about 1908 when the "new station" was constructed.
I will try and post tomorrow but it is shaping up to be another one of "them days" as management has been seen "filing their teeth." This surely means that we are going to have a "fun-filled day."
OSP - Thought of you the past couple of evenings while watching "The War" on TV. They had svereal nice sequences of troop trains pulled by GG1s (trackside and overhead shots). Also some good pictures of NYC and Burlington steam as well.
Work safe
Greetings Tom the Enlighted One and gentlemen....
Errrmmmm...cough..cough. Could I trouble you for an extra cold Guinness, top up with cigars for the lads please? Here some for yourself as well....
Aaaaahhh.......well worth waiting for...
O' Enligthed One, I think that there's a slight misunderstanding here. I know that I'm good, but not THAT good though....have only managed to turn water into to wine, still working on how to turn Vodka into Whisky....
Anyhoo, the bottles of 30 year old Glenfiddich was for you and Da..Da..Da Larsman for running the ship and doing one good job . I only pored the Vodka to share with all the lads in the bar.. Well, if you don't want the Whisky, I'll take it back and save it for a special occasion.
Da Larsman, sorry to hear how things are going on the home front. I'm sure that Grandma will pull through, nae doubts about that. Please forward my very best get well wishes to her and hi and hello to the good lady of yours too...
Have a dram on me and let us together curse our teams that so seriously have let us down so far.....
Great covers etc as always mate
Fergmiester, some nice lassie that you've got there.... Hope to see more of her.
coalminer3, I don't think that I've ever seen a SP&S tenwheeler actually.... I must admit as with the 4-4-2's the 4-6-0's has grown on to me BIG time....
Can't remember ever to have heard about "clinkers" either.....
Good joke too mate
DL - UK, not to worry mate, we'll all be here waiting for you. I'll keep a pint ready for you... I hope that the pressure at work will ease off.
pwolfe, I really like the style that the stations had out in west, grand work they were indeed. I wouldn't mind to ride on the Olympian Hiawatha from Chicago to Seattle on the Milwaukee Road, I'm sure that the old Olympian was quite the ride too in its day....
Great pics!
DD1, no panic mate, we'll all be here... Have a Guinness on me.
Thanks for the "Turbomotive" info as well....
EricX2000, true about the T-21. I was always amazed with the T-21 and the Ub how much they could push and pull despite being so small.... Skytop in the 16 Mile Canyon, well for the whole stretch of Milwaukee Road.....sweeeet!
nice pic mate, where was it taken? I can't read the station name....looks familiar though.
Well, all the best lads and I'll see you around the corner.....
Sorry if I missed anyone.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, my lovely lady I'd like a mugga Joe with a jolt if you will! Yes, a round for the house ‘n treats for the crittAHs. Boris, feed ‘em ‘n the small jar of PPF is YOURS! Keep the change my sweet! <blush>
Short on narrative this day, but I do have some pre-prepared items for Da Bossman's Optional Toy & Model Trains Day here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside!!
First, let me thank those of you who commented about our situation at home. I shudda kept it OFF the internet - some things are bettAH left in privacy. BUT, this bar becomes "real" in the sense that there are many times I feel as if we're all talking . . . NoWutIMean??? <grin> Anyway, for the 2 or 3 who recall how all of this began a year or more ago - terminal is terminal. Not much one can do or say with that, huh
For Cap'n Tom: Had I known you weren't gonna be ‘round yesterday afternoon, I'd have come back - as there wasn't much going on once we returned from the hospital. You SHOULD take off more often . . . why not??? Seems that an awful lot of what gets deposited into the ether winds up being "used" by so many who "take" but nevAH "give." BUT more importantly, everyone needs a break from the "routine" - even YOU!
For Fergie: <gotcha> Just can't pop in ‘n outta here without the protocol of greeting ‘n ordering!
Fine looking vessel - can't miss it, huh <grin> I recall when our US Navy operated the ice breakers down here - they were painted white in those times. I'm not sure, but didn't the Ruskies begin painting theirs red? I know Cap'n Tom's outfit has gone to red as well. Makes sense against the background they operate it.
For Pete: Sure, sure - hiding away <under the covers> afraid of a thunder-boomer. Yeah, right! Regards to Sonia . . . <grin>
For Eric: Reptiles should prevail - BUT Philadelphia does have a darned good offensive team. Cubs ‘n Rockies - well, I don't see ‘em going on, although I'd say the Cubs, if they get hot, could really surprise the lot. I'm sticking with the Reptiles. I think the Red Sox will win it all - BUT also think the Angels could do it as well. AL will win the WS.
For CM3 I'm NOT Shane! You bettAH get that reporter outta the sack ‘n at his typewriter. The tournament approaches . . .
For Ron: Good to see ya back at the bar. Don't know much about trucks, other than I hate driving behind ‘em!!
For Jan: What's to say other than - yeah, right - whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! <grin>
No, no - the whisky STAYS! Once given it can't be retrieved! Rule number 343 in Da Bossman's litany of Things to Abide By! Hmmmmm, wondAH if there's a "cover" I could find for that "book" ?? <grin>
Something SPECIAL for OPTIONAL TOY & MODEL TRAINS DAY!
Roco, based in Salzburg, Austria, is a manufacturer of model railway equipment, The company was founded in 1960 by Ing. Heinz Rössler and started with a plastic 'minitank' series. After export to the USA became successful, the model line was expanded with model trains in H0 scale and the smaller N scale.On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH. from: http://www.wikipedia.com/
Roco, based in Salzburg, Austria, is a manufacturer of model railway equipment, The company was founded in 1960 by Ing. Heinz Rössler and started with a plastic 'minitank' series. After export to the USA became successful, the model line was expanded with model trains in H0 scale and the smaller N scale.On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH.
On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH.
Roco - Austria - (DC) 63271 - Steam Locomotive 01 533 ÖGEG
Greetings Tom and gentlemen,
May I please have a top up around the bar please?
Just thought that I pop in quickly, feeling a tad .... The nights are getting more and more heavy at work, and we're constantly short staffed....
And since it's Optional Toy & Model Train Day here today, I thought that I'd psot this link to John Allen's Gorre and Daphetid Railroad. An early inspiration for my own HO layout WHEN and IF I ever get to build it.... http://www.gdlines.com/
Da Larsman, nice pics mate! I didn't even know that Roco was such a deep !! Go figure, I used to have plenty of their stuff. Also beside Roco, Fleischmann and Piko.....that was before I saw the LIGHT Next round is on me.
Have a nice day everybody and take care.....
GO VIKINGS!
GO La Dodgers!
Go Boston Bruins!
See you around the corner.....
G-day Tom and all present!!!!
Ruth- Good morning!!! I think I will have an OJ and a pastry this morning. Keep the change!!
Eric- I thought it might be the throttle.. But it seems a little weird to me since I'm use to the handle throttle. But it's neat anyway.. It's an electric!! That Class T21 was an interesting one. When you said Diesel-hydralic.. I thought, "what?" But does this thing actually use hydralics to move itself?? I have never heard or seen anything like it... It's a neat little locomotive. I can see the wheel drivers connect to a center drive wheel. That drive wheel must be set up similar to a cars automatic transmission, would that be correct? Thanks for sharing.
Jan-AH, the Milwaukee Road East, a very good book!! I too own that book. As it states he lives in Superior, Wisconsin and guess what. Superior is only about 5 miles. He doesn't live far away at all. Well, I talk to him last night and we set a time so can look at a couple of his models that are causing some trouble.. So I will forward your compliments over.
Oh, yes, the latern. A very nice piece indeed.. But. The reason it went so low was because of the maker. Adlake made many of these laterns, almost to the point if you looked in any Antique shop, there would 20 or 25 of the laterns hanging from the ceiling. They were and still are very common, even the ones form the early 1900s. But if that were a none adlake latern... then it would probably be going for hundreds of dollars. But, thanks for showing me.
Your Milwaukee posters are looking good. I am very impressed with how many you have come up with. Thanks for sharing.
I have to give John Allen credit. HE DID A LOT OF WORK!!!!!!!! That is an amazing layout!! I am impressed!!!
Tom- Well, I thought drinking one at a time was something unique! Hmmmm That was a bit of an awkward sentence. Hehehe. I'm still getting a kick out of Lars' math!!
Lars- I am also sorry to hear things are not going as planned around the Homested. Hopefully they get better soon. Looking good with the book covers. I am quite impressed. I would really like to see the book about the Sunset Limited. That looks like an interesting one indeed.
A lot of models you are sharing there. I am impressed with how many of those companies I know. Trix, Fleisschmann, Marklin, roco... I think that's all of them. Walthers sells a lot of there items and they are interesting to look at. Thanks for the explanations along with the models. Good stuff there. Thanks for sharing
Fergie- nice looking ship you're on mate. 4 Alco engines. Excuse me, I think you know where I will be.. Wow, I am impressed with her. A very nice ship indeed. Have a good one.
Pete- Ya, If I don't have that inventory I could end up with the same number car..... And those a re a pain to change.. <groan> Unfortunately I able to find nothing on the midland continental. I find the Midland and Colorado... Now I can see that this was not a very big railroad. Infact they had a total of like five locomotives. which all were Alcos. RS1s. They did a lot of grain industry and they an about 150 miles of trackage from Jamestown North Dakota to Fargo, ND. And there was a lot of switching to be done along the line. There were grain elevators all over the place.. Unfortunately the line was ripped out in the later 1950s.... Kind of a sad story. Today, they would be doing quite well with the increase in price of corn.
That looked like a nice little train ride. That is also a pretty cool little steam engine. I woudln't know how to run that but that Grey NW2 would be a nice one to run, and I would certainly know how to run that one.. Infact you got a bit of a rare pic. NW2s are the thing of a museum now-a-days. Something to enjoy.
Well I think I will show some pics of the layout and then I will go and attend to those... ahem.. 4 Alcos on the ship...
The new loco. It's a GP40. It's pretty nice and runs like a "good" dream.
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2007 2nd Annual Darts Challenge ‘n Grudge Match!
Okay Gents, here it is - the 2007 2nd Annual Darts Challenge ‘n Grudge Match information sheet. Cut ‘n paste this one, for it ain't gonna get repeated! <grin>
When
Thursday - Friday ‘n Saturday nites, October 25th thru 27th, 2007!
Where
Match #1 at "Our" Place - Oct 25th - Match #2 at The Second Class Saloon - Oct 26th - Match #3 at "Our" Place - Oct 27th.
Note: Match #3 WILL BE PLAYED regardless of either team having a 2-zip advantage!
"Our" Place Teams:
#1 The UK Connection of: What'd he say? - Pete (pwolfe) ‘n Kiwi's are Down Under - Allan (Gunneral)
#2 The Norsemen Duo of: I'm Oaring the Boat! - Lars (LoveDomes) ‘n Deserts are for Swedes! - Eric (EricX2000).
Alternate - open: WE NEED THIS SLOT FILLED ASAP!!!
Ace Reporter: From high atop Mt. Mentor, we'll be treated once again to some fine reporting of the events as they unfold! Watch for the ENCOREs from last year's competition!
The Second Class Saloon Teams:
#1 Mo Lester (aka: Eunuch maker) ‘n Rock Pounder (aka: I got stones!)
#2 Lance Butts (aka: Watch your back!) ‘n Doug Graves (aka: Last stop!)
Alternate: Mountain Man Mike (Moose) - Proprietor of The Second Class Saloon
Shirts: As with last year, we'll have 5 shirts for the teams ‘n alternate.
SEND ME AN E-MAIL with your selection(s) 1st choice - 2nd choice - 3rd choice!
Shirt #1 -
Shirt #2 -
Shirt #3 -
Shirt #4 -
Shirt #5 -
As with last year, the "Our" Place teams will be provided with DESIGNER leather apparel (pants ‘n foot wear) to compliment the SHIRTS! Boris will help you with the sizing . . . . <uh oh>
Now we need ONE MORE GUY to serve as the ALTERNATE!! C'mon Gents - after all, this is CYBER SPACE!!
I'd like to "close the book" on this before week's end - so PLEASE respond with shirt selections ASAP!! Alternate too . . . .
Later!
Tom
Good day Tom and all present. Have one on me. I'm in a rush this am, (doctor's appt). I just wanted to quickly thank ERIC for the dimension for the 1-C-1 electric. I didn't think it would be so wide.
James: That's a real nice layout you have put together and a nice locomotive to go with it. You sure look like a great lad. You remind me of myself when I was 19. Them are good days. Enjoy them to the fullest. When I was 19, the legal drinking age was 18. When I turned 21, the legal age became 21 also, so I guess I was born in the right year. I look forward to further discussions with you. Although I'm 72, mentally I'm still a kid at heart, unlike the old fuddy duddies around here.Looks like you've done quite a bit so far. Your knowledge of the Milwaukee Road is impressive. What are you planning to do in the future? Go to college, work
As I stated earlier, I'm short on time, so I'll be back later.
GoooooooD Aaafffffternoooon TOM!
Can i get a feed of Sardines on toast with beans and homefries on the side? nudge nudge
I can see Captain Tom issuing orders to the Master of Arms restricting my access to this fine dining establishment. Wouldn't be the first time I've been excomunicated!
Anyway we're still here undergoing repairs so I'll keep you posted.
As always
G'day Gents!
Thought I'd catch up on the remarks before things get totally out of hand for me. Nice to see so much activity!!
Wednesday - Oct 3rd:
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:05 AM: An early arrival - haven't seen that for awhile! But when you're trying to please us here at the bar - AND - those who pay you, well, "we takes what we gets"!!
Amazing disparity in petrol prices betwixt here ‘n there!
Have been taping the episodes of "The War" - we prefer viewing ‘em at our leisure rather than be forced to give up the time at perhaps inopportune times. Anyway, thus far we've viewed the first two - not bad. To say the film maker is a genius at his trade is indeed an understatement . . .
Let me digress to the times we're in: For an assortment reasons, I've been thinking about just how "different" things are today from when I was a young man. Sure - that was "then" - but the memories are still with me and I lived through those times.
At age 18 (1956) I had two choices - get drafted or enlist. Pretty simple. No staying at home playing with trains for me, or having mom ‘n pop to pay the freight, etc. Go in the service or go to jail. Yes - that's pretty descriptive of what could've happened to me.
We had all kinds of "personalities" in the service from all corners of the nation - but for my outfit - ALL with at least a high school diploma. USCG didn't accept anything less - no such thing as "equivalencies" in those times. Anyway, once we were sent to the 13 weeks of boot camp - heads cleanly shaven - uniforms thrust at us - ‘n orders barked from morning ‘til night - well, it was a rather abrupt CHANGE for all of us. We entered adulthood pretty quickly ‘n smartly I should add. I think this nation has lost FOREVER the absolute best socialization for American men. Women I can't speak for them - for I didn't grow up as one! <grin> I KNOW what worked for me and the military surely did.
Today, most of our universities ‘n high schools won't let military recruiters on their premises. And we have people in our society who think that the options young people have for their futures DOES NOT INCLUDE service to their country within the military. I find that most unsettling AND appalling.
End of my ramblings - just some thoughts that don't amount to much in these days <daze> ‘n times when it seems to me that far too many of us have no understanding or experience at what service to the country really should be.
Yeah - I just broke my "house rule" - so I'll pay the price! Boris, break out the "good stuff" ‘n pour ‘em all a DOUBLE. I'm going outback to scream at the moon (visible today in daylight)!!
Email en route with Rendezvous ‘stuff' . . .
Thanx for the visit, round ‘n quarters!
Jan (JanOlov) at 8:32 AM & 10:37 AM: As our Manager so aptly put it - NO! Can't have the bottle of whisky back. <grin> It's ours ‘n we're gonna consume it - every fine drop!
Can only imagine having such a layout as that depicted within the URL you provided! Also fine looking streamlined "shrouded" steamer . . .
Visits, "top ups," et al always appreciated!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:04 AM: Your Email has been received ‘n responded to - thanx! I will say this:
Many, many thanx for that fine compilation you put together for our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! While it appears that your efforts either weren't viewed by all - by chance or choice - I appreciate the effort!
Round, visit ‘n chat always welcome!
James (CMSTPP) at 11:42 AM: Figured we'd get some OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains "stuff" from our Resident Duluth Connection and you didn't disappoint.
My Can-Am HO layout represents the final model railroad major effort for this lifetime. It was conceived over a long time, put together in less than 18-months, which included the construction of the finished basement AROUND the finished layout! Yeah, just a bit backwards . . . Enjoyed every hour of the labor ‘n in spite of wanting to change this or that - or rip out a section here ‘n there - it IS the layout I've always wanted. Just took me quite a long time getting there . . . so you at the tender age of 19, well - you've got all kinds of time.
Inclusive Posts are ALWAYS appreciated at this bar ‘n yours continue to meet our highest expectations!
G-day Tom and all present!!
Ruth- Looking good this afternoon. I know, I'm in for a second round, so lets see. I think I will go with a coffee and a turkey sandwich to top that off.. Thanks
Tom- I think I will watch this game. It looks interesting. I wonder who will win this one.... BTW- Nice shirts. If I were to choose one, it would be #2. I really like that one.. A layout your able to have fun is the kind of layout I like. That's the part about modeling I have always liked. You can choose the kind you like, the one that makes you happy. That's what's going to make this hobby so successful.
DD1- When it comes to the Milwaukee Road I know a lot about it... I also model it... wait, is that not evident??? But unfortunately my layout is going to be ripped out here in the next couple of weeks. I am actually going to be moving. I hope to be getting a job in Southern Minnesota on a small shortline called, The Twin Cities and Western. I need to take a couple of classes before going ahead and getting a job with this railroad. But that doesn't mean I am going to forget this place. No way!!!!
Thanks for the compliments.
Fergie- I am impressed with your layout!!!! I do recognize a steam locomotive. The DM&IR 2-10-2. I have a friend who owns one of those and it's been at my house for about 4 months now. It is a nice loco. Thanks for all of your great photos. I enjoyed them.
Pete- I have found an article on the Midland Continental in my model railroader magazine. I will copy it and send it to you.
Happy railroading
James
Hi Tom and all.
A Pint of Bathams please RUTH and a round for all the fine models on display to day.
RON Real glad you are enjoying Our Place it is real good to have you at the bar.
I am still trying to think of the name of that distillery which had geese protecting it in Scotland.
Yes the LMS ‘Turbomotive' was quite successful. It was usually used on the London to Liverpool run and an old engine driver told me it was the favorite loco of the LMS Top-Link driver Laurie Earl. It had a very short career as a conventional locomotive as it was wrecked in the Harrow and Wealdstone bad accident in 1952.It was fitted with a ‘Duchess' class boiler but with the Princess based frame. Its BR number was 46202 and she was named Princess Anne. I cannot recall reading any thing about her service as 46202.
Great words for James
ERIC Have you any photos of the V3 switchers.
I am pretty sure #10 was an oil burner, although I must admit I took it for granted it was and did not check. I talked to the guide at Jamestown and he explained that oil was so much cheaper than coal in California so steam engines were oil fired from an early date.
Also seeing how dry it was out there I don't think a coal-fired engine would be allowed,
It would be good to hear from PER or DAVE about this
Thanks for the photo from the footplate, is that a water tower for steam locos on the right
CM3 Glad you liked the photos.
It is good to hear they restored the station at Covington, it seems that historic buildings are being looked after and saved better now, compared to the 1960s
JAN I believe was a saying in Britain when a steam locos firebox had the coal fused to the firebars that is was ‘Clinkered up'
I too would like to have traveled the Milwaukee Road from Chicago to Seattle. I wonder what locomotives would have hauled the train, while the electrics were still working in the later days of the train
Glad you liked the photos.
Many thanks for the link to those models on the Gorre and Daphetid Railroad
JAMES As you say it is a pity the Midland and Colorado did not survive until today, as it would have been busy now. There must be a lot a lines, on both sides of the Atlantic, that were ripped up in the 1950s and 60s that would be very useful today
I was lucky, later on in the week the gray diesel was brought out of the shed to do some air tests on the museums coaches and I was there. It was good to see the loco working, I have a couple of photos I will put at the bar in a few days.
Many thanks for the great photos of your models. Glad the new loco is working real well, and that looks a great cake, don't suppose there is any left for us at the bar.
LARS You caught me, the line "It is safest in bed in a thunderstorm" works sometimes
Many thanks for those very well detailed Austrian and German models. I once had a Trix set, of a breakdown train; I have tried looking but can't find a reference to it on the web.
FERGIE Sardines with beans, not something I have tried,but beans on toast were a staple diet of mine.
Many thanks for the photos of those great locomotives and your layout, great photo of the double header.
TOM Of course you were missed yesterday afternoon, but you deserve an afternoon off now and then.
The only trouble with maintaining the Wine and Spirit inventory is that the good stuff seems to disappear, rather rapidly, in the direction of the Manager's private bar. We don't sell much spirits since one of the Track Gang grabbed a bottle of whisky pulled the cork out with his teeth, spat it out and it hit LEON.
Yes H&H were trained by NICK to pilot the Zeppelin many moons a go n
Another Bathams, then RUTH.
JAMES Just caught your post.Glad to hear you are going to work for a railroad.
I will look forward to the Midland Continental article. Many thanks..
Pete
Hi Gents!
Correction made to the DATES for the Dart's Challenge 'n Grudge Match! Thanx - Pete!
And while you're at it:
Shirts: As with last year, we'll have 5 shirts for the teams ‘n alternate.SEND ME AN E-MAIL with your selection(s) 1st choice - 2nd choice - 3rd choice!
See ya!
Good Evening everybody present! Leon, please a round for everybody, some coins for the juke box, and I want to try one of those Tuis, please.
Tom, Ja, den Oktoberfest is bald wieder hier, nicht war? And that’s about as much as I remember of the German language. The Oktoberfest has already started at our local German restaurant here in Plano, Yum! But they don’t have the fancy bands that you have managed to get for Our Place! Now, why is it that every German restaurant I’ve been to has an LGB train running around the place?
In other news, the recently appointed A.R.I. is back again. I hope to be able to drop in 1-2 times a week this fall until things slow down at work. I don’t want to miss any of the conversation around the bar, it is really enlightening and interesting. Every week I learn something new!
Both my wife and I have Alaska pretty high up on the list of places to visit; right up there with a cross-Canada trip. We’ll see how the retirement funds develop and how soon we can get going. I can fully see your reasons for wanting to live up there. There is something special with the vastness of the country and the views you get. It’s hard to find anywhere else. It is dark in the winter, but on the other hand, the summers are lighter. But your suggested combination: Winter in San Diego and summer in Alaska, that’ll be something!
I wouldn’t put Poway in the mountains of San Diego County; foothills – yes. It’s not too far from the coast with a few hills if I remember correctly. Julian, on the other hand, IS in the mountains. But there are no train tracks there.
Nice ads. There is that “Advance” again. This time in combination with the Zephyr. I guess I should have tried to study MoPac, KCS (and the Katy) a little bit more while I was here in Dallas, but I’m going to continue reading up on the SP and SF trains instead.
Eric, Congratulations to your rehab test! Great news!
You have some very nice pictures from your friend Hans! See if you can’t trick him into sending some of his models as well.
What a coincidence that you show Du 109, that’s the same engine I referred to a while back as being in the museum “down south”. I wonder when it got there since you operated it in the late 70’s. Was the original Ra that was operating last year, a museum piece, or did SJ keep it all these years like that? And you are right, the double decker is UGLY! It’s even uglier than the first double decker they had in the 70’s on BKB. You showed the F class at the 150th anniversary and that leads to the question, what anniversary was it that SJ celebrated in the late 70’s with a big parade of trains outside of Stockholm?
Interesting article about AC/DC traction, thanks! Do the RC class engines qualify as DC? They have some fancy electronics in them to rectify the overhead current to DC.
Dave (West Coast S), so I wasn’t dreaming about the San Diego depot. It’s too bad they shortened it; it looked so nice in the old pictures. But the interior is still great!
Yes, there was a lot of empty land around the Sacramento shops when I was there. Hopefully they haven’t torn down any more buildings, but as I mentioned, I think I saw a display in the museum where they showed their expansion on to that piece of land.
Al, Boy, was I wrong about Tui. Oh well, now I know. Thanks for the link to Tui (is that a real tour guide they show on the site) and to the Wikipedia about the Geordies. As I said to Tom, this is a place where you learn something new every week!
Great history notes on the Pacific! Now I know where the name came from.
James (CMSTPP), You know, even though I have every little piece of my MR stuff down in an inventory, I always forget to bring it to the train shows. In my case that means I’m not buying anything since I don’t want to risk to get duplicates (I have too many already!)
Speaking of Diesel-hydraulics, weren’t the Krauss-Maffei (sp?) diesels, that DRGW and SP bought a couple of, also Diesel-hydraulic, I think they were, but I am almost only guessing here.
Nice cake! I bet it tasted really good!
Fergie, I’m glad you made it back on one shaft (and propeller). It’s a pretty big “boat” you have there. Is it a ship or a boat? What I learned in the Navy was that if there is a crew stationed on the vessel, it’s a ship, otherwise a boat. That’s my recollection of the Swedish definition.
Impressive layout you have! I would like to see more pictures eventually.
Jan Olov, it must have been a really interesting trip on Inlandsbanan. Glad you made it with as little delay as you did. I checked the web site you referenced, but it does not mention any steam engines although there is a picture of one. What’s up with that?
Really nice ads for the Hiawatha. Is that an Eire-built engine in those ads? (And I don’t think the Captain will allow you to carry over a pic to tomorrow)
Thanks for the link to the GD site! I bought the CD they brought out but the site is just as good. I was SOO close to see the GD in real life back in 66 when I was in San Francisco but I wasn’t sure if my finances would allow a side trip to Monterrey so I had to skip it. But I got to talk to John Allen on the phone, at least.
Lars (Lovedomes), Sorry to hear about the troubles on the home front. I sincerely hope that it all turns out well for you and your f
Leon, I think I'll have some Blackberry Pancakes! With lots of whipped cream! Sounds good!
Not much to report today. I will start my dart training at the rehab next week. That will be a perfect way to get in shape!
Tom – Oregon is a place where I would like to live. I love the forest. Back in the old country I used to live in a house in the middle of the forest. Had moose, deer, foxes, badgers, bobcats around the house all the time. The picture shows arrival to a city about 65 miles southwest of Stockholm (southbound train). The picture is taken from a Class Rc1 (#1018) electric. We will be ready when it is time for the 2007 2nd Annual Darts Challenge ‘n Grudge Match.I agree with you 100% when I read your thoughts about serving your country! I din’t spend that long time in the military but I learned a lot. I was a different (better) man when I got out of the service than before.CM3 – I noticed that the gas price went down in St. Louis and now in your neighborhood. I would say it is our turn for reduced prices now! JanOlov – T21, V3 and Ub/Ud could push and pull a lot of heavy cars. Passenger car switching i the Hagalund depot is very heavy and with 18-20 cars in the hook you’ll notice it. But it worked. The picture shows Nyköping C. Interesting site about John Allen’s Gorre and Daphetid Railroad!Lars – You were right! The Snakes won tonight! I did not watch the entire game but saw parts of it. Very nice models! I have never seen DB Class 10 before.I saw we are on the same team!! Let’s beat them up!!James – Diesel-hydraulic means it does not have any generator or any electric traction motors. The engine is connected to a hydraulic transmission with two speeds, 50 km/h and 80 km/h (31 and 50 mph). You can shift only at standstill. When used for switching it is geared for 50 km/h. Nice photos of your new loco and your layout! The birthday cake doesn’t look bad either!! Covered with chocolate!! Ron – I’ll post that drawing I mentioned tomorrow. I’ll see what else I can get hold of. I guess you will need photos of everything!Fergie – Very nice layout! I would love to see much more!Pete – A V3 switcher is in the picture below. They were small but could pull a lot. They were built in Germany shortly after WW II. I am sure that museum locomotive was burning oil. The water tower was not for steam locomotives. It must have used for a plant of some kind. Thanks for the pictures of the model railroad in San Diego. I have to find my pictures from the same place. Per – I checked my notes, the few times I operated #109 all happened in 1976 so it was the mid 70’s. I don’t have any date for when it was retired and sent to the museum. The anniversary in Stockholm was the 125th Anniversary 1981. Rc electrics have DC traction motors.
Class V3 switcher. Built 1952. Photo: Hans Polanik.
Thursday in mid-continent USA ‘n time to draw a mugga Joe, grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n then order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Rendezvous Email sent to all participants on Wednesday . . .
DART's Challenge ' Grudge Match Shirt Selections are DUE!! Send me an E-mail with your THREE choices!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative on Wednesday afternoon)
James (CMSTPP) at 3:10 PM: A second visit in the same day!
I make no claim to being "all knowledgeable regarding what should or shouldn't be the objective for one's model railroad. For me, it's simply to enjoy that which I've constructed, purchased ‘n LAYED OUT! <ergo: layout!> Pretty simple stuff, eh Having fun is the bottom line for me.
I find it awfully difficult to get wrapped around the axle over any of the stuff we call "fun" or "diversions" when the problems of this old world are so REAL, that at times it seems such a waste of energy to be "playing" when . . . . In ancient Rome it was said Emperor Nero fiddled while the city burned.
Not much more to say other than enjoy what you have while you have it.
Appreciate the visit!
Pete (pwolfe) at 3:30 PM & 3:32 PM: Appears you're making an effort to get back to a mid to late afternoon "slot," which really will help out ‘round here. Although today we've had a most unusual, but welcome, turn out.
Only YOU would be concerned about what brand ‘n type of beer will be served at The Second Class Saloon during our Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match! <geesh>
I changed the dates - my bad - apparently was looking at the wrong month, but good ole Eagle Eye caught it. Thanx!! BUT . . . . oh never mind!
Looking at those model RR fotos from SDiego makes me want to revisit Balboa Park! <sweet> BUT don't tell me you screwed up <again> with the camera!!!! <yikes> I mean <yikes> Lost, lost - helplessly lost <pictures that is!> Reminds me very much of "whatever happened" to my fotos during the first night aboard the eastbound "Ocean" - very puzzling. Did YOU happen to touch my camera????? Hmmmmmmmm.
Just a point: I didn't "do" a thing to take credit for anything that made the world any better or worse during my 32 year career. However, I surely knew <and still do> what obligations to my country entail. That's what the gist of my "rant" was all about . . .
Some definitive WORD: Bar Chandler IS responsible for all beer, wine ‘n spirits - PERIOD. What goes up to the Penthouse Suite is Management responsibility. If the Proprietor or Manager depletes the stock - the Bar Chandler arranges for replenishment. Pretty straight forward, eh Hope you "got it," otherwise off you go to Molly Throttlebottom's Adult Learning Center ‘n Mud Wrestling Emporium! <uh oh>
Also, is there any OTHER way to open a bottle of spirits
Rendezvous Email sent your way on Wednesday . . .
Thanx for the chat, Pix ‘n round!
Per (marthastrainyard) at 7:52 PM: It's a loooooooong story regarding CM3 I'm NOT Shane which goes back BEFORE you ever heard of this joint. You didn't miss a thing - but here's the Cliff Notes: (1) coalminer3 didn't have "much" of a profile on the Forums (2) In absence of responses to repeated attempts to "find out" his real name - or nickname - or even initials - the Proprietor <that's Moi> anointed him CM3 <figure it out!!) It stuck. Then we started a "thing" about maybe his real name is "Shane" <as in the Allan Ladd movie from way back when> A few of us picked up on it ‘n we dubbed him Shane. Of course, he denied THAT - ‘n now it's CM3 I'm NOT Shane! <get it??> <phew.
The mere fact that I remember all of this nonsense is cause for ALARM! <uh oh>
You are correct, Sir - foothills is far more descriptive. However, they ARE the foothills of mountains! <grin> There are people who look at the mountains in SoCal ‘n say, "Them thar are hills!" It's all in the eye of the onlooker, eh Mt. McKinley IS a mountain - Poway sits atop a knoll by comparison! <grin>
All sorts of "definitions" regarding ship vs boat. Was told to me back when Moby Dick was a minnow that a boat is that which can be carried aboard a ship! That "worked" for me for many years . . .
Greetings......yaaawwnnnn.....Tom and ....yaawwnnnn......gentlemen.
I'm sorry for the rather late public appearance, just woke up......stretches..gnnnnn.
May I please have a cup of your strongest Java please? Give the lads a round of top ups with cigars as well if you don't mind.......thank you kindly. Here's something for yourself too..
CMSTPP, that is some nice looking models you have there (turning into a lighter shade of green). Am thinking about getting that Milwaukee station at some point, whenever my "bank" allowes me to. Michael, on my best friends back in Sweden has I think 60+ Erie, Lackawanna and Erie-Lackawanna locomotives in H0.
Nice looking layout mate!
Tom, that is some serious looking T-shirts mate... I think that I'll just sit and watch this years tournament and maybe give a few....."what the do you call that?! You throw like a sissy! My dog throws better than that!! I take it that you'll consume a fair bit of slightly stronger stuff to improve on aming and maket it more interesting, yeah?
DD1, nae worries mate. We'll see you when we see you. I'll keep a pint ready for you.....
Fergmiester, niiiice pics mate! Hope to see more from you.....
Tom, G&D was a very beautiful layout, I remember seeing it on the telly as a child.... Let me get your next round chief.
CMSTPP, so THAT is what you're interested in....I thought that was something but I could for my life not put my finger on it... Good luck with you job mate . Nowadays I wish that I'd followed up on my talks with the D&H. Then I might have been in the US working for one of favorite railroads.... Oh well....
pwolfe, THAT is some nice looking layout mate!! MORE pics please.... As for my friends back in my old country who hope that I'll move back at some point want to build a layout, we've decided to (or I) builda few of the Milwaukee Road's trestles on it. We'll see what happens, they're looking for a place to build right now....
marthastrainyard, it sure was mate.... They used to have two engines, 905 and 1182. There used also to be a few other societies out and running with all kind of steamers... We were kind of surprised too, not being more late than we were....
EricX2000, aaaah those V1 and V3.... My dad never really liked them for some odd reason. Thought that the station looked familiar, my grandparents used to live there.
Looking forward to more pics from you mate....
Hmmm....no sign of Da...Da....Da Larsman yet, I think that I'll get a nice dram ready for him when he shows up.....pardon me barkeep....
Have a nice day everybody and take care...
See you around the corner....
Ruth my deAH, set up the bar with a drink on me, wudja And I'll take just a mugga Joe with a BK-splash if you please! Boris, the crittAHs are lined up so it must be feeding time! Go to it ‘n that small jar of PPF is YOURS! Oh yes, keep the change my sweet thing! <blush>
Should mention that my e-mail was sent for the shirt selection ‘n Da Bossman confirmed that I have #3! Awwwwwright!!
For Da Boss: Great write-up for the Dart's tournament. Shirts are "way cool" ‘n do they really make leather pants in ALL sizes????? I'm kinda XXXL when it comes to THAT! <groan>
I compared the names on the 2nd Class Saloon's teams with last year ‘n noted that they all are "new." Apparently the others are still incarcerated, huh I see that their owner is going to be the substitute (alternate). Why not That's about all he's good for anyway! <uh oh> First stone has been flung . . .
By the way, I know where you're "at" when it comes to the "way things are" today. I have to keep telling myself over ‘n over that as my generation ages ‘n dies off, what's coming up by ‘n large has NO CLUE about the sacrifices made by those B4 ME, much less from me ‘n mine. It's a world that has turned upside down as far as I'm concerned and I wouldn't even be able to list the "values" we have as a nation any longer. That doesn't bode well, does it Yeah, there are guys getting blown to bits today while others are playing games ‘n living the grand life. Sure, the idea of it all is to place blame, then go about the day. What a mess. End of Boris, ring the ding - round on me for being
For Per: Yes, you are very observant - that IS what you think it IS on the tender of that German loco. First time I noticed it I wondered. THEN it struck me - I detest revisionist historians ‘n those who would disguise the past in something wrapped far differently. So, since those trains existed - and obviously there's a world-wide market for ‘em - we have choices: to buy OR not to buy. ‘nuf said from me on that front.
I'm still NOT over the collapse of my Mets - so tread LIGHTLY young man, very LIGHTLY!! <grimace>
New math Why I haven't the foggiest what you mean! Look, it's really SIMPLE: Eight is eight except when in pairs of two, then it's four, which is less than six. What's so confusing about THAT Anyway, this is all the fault of Jan - the ‘confused' Swede who thinks he's a Scot!! Don't even ask me to ‘splain THAT one! <grin>
I see Da Boss ‘splained the CM3 I'm NOT Shane! "thing" . . . got it now Good!
The federal bureaucracy is the culprit with or without the war on terror, these matters of "routine" shouldn't wind up causing more problems. Same for the passport nonsense that is still going on. This is plainly the left hand NOT even caring about what the right hand is doing. I'd fire the lot of ‘em - then of course finding competent people to replace ‘em would create yet another problem. Woe is us - the paper pushers will rule the earth - something akin to the "meek" perhaps
For Pete: Look mate, I don't want to constantly pick on YOU - but for cripes sakes, what in the world is WRONG with your ability <inability> to get it right when using a camera?????? <quadruple geesh>
Nice three shots from the San Diego museum for model trains, surely would've liked to see MORE!
Also looks like you bumbled the request from Da Boss about the shirt selections! <geesh again> Must be the fact that your Mrs. has returned 'n probably ALMOST caught you "in the act"!! By the way, did Sonia get away ok??
Now to something SERIOUS: You are the Bar Chandler ‘n I'm the Manager. Say no more - stock the stuff ‘n keep it stocked or you'll be back to the THIMBLE sized dipper! <another quadruple geesh>
Glad you enjoyed the Euro model trains . . .
For Fergie: Great looking model steam locos - simply great! Now, how ‘bout some descriptions Also, thanks for participating <finally> in our Wednesday "event"!!
As long as the sardines are from Norway, I see no problem with your choice of things to eat! <grin> Beans ‘n sardines go together like ice cream ‘n sauerkraut! BUT it's YOUR gut . . . <grin>
For Eric: I'm happy that your Reptiles beat the little bears from Chicago, I'm no fan of their pitcher from last night. Anyway, the Phillies got beat, which does my stone-cold-heart GOOD! <grin>
It's been awhile, so time again for a Fallen Flag from the archives of "Our" Place!
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads.
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #25
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 142, 20 Oct 2005 on the Original Thread>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Bangor & Aroostook (BAR) Headquarters: Bangor, ME Mileage: 1950: 616 2000: 433 Locomotives in 1963: Diesels: 46 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars: 4,646 - Passenger cars: 2
Principal lines in 1950 (all in Maine): Searsport-Derby-Fort Kent Brownville-Brownville Jct. Northern Maine Jct.-Bangor Derby-Greenville Old Town-South Lagrange South Lagrange-West Seboois Oakfield-Phair-Presque Isle-Van Buren Van Buren-St. Francis Squa Pan-Stockholm Mapleton-Presque Isle Caribou-Limestone Phair-Fort Fairfield
Passenger Trains of note: Aroostook Flyer (Bangor-Van Buren via Houlton and Presque Isle, with through cars from Boston via Northern Maine Jct.) Potatoland Special (Bangor-Van Buren via Houlton and Presque Isle, with through cars from Boston via Northern Maine Jct.)
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Enjoy! Tom
PER The trip we had from Sacramento was from a station not far from the Museum. I think the train headed south, anyway we followed the river that was on the right hand side of the train on the way out. The trip took about 20 minutes and the engine ran round at a place called ‘BATHS'
No we did not have any trouble taking photos at San Diego depot and we did not see any notice about not taking photos. It has become disturbing in Britain that railfans are getting bother at some stations with photo and their hobby taking lately, photography of railways as been going on since the invention of the camera. The Railway Magazine even has a regular column about it named Iron Curtain Britain, although Network rail, that owns a lot of the stations,say photography and railfans are ok, with a few sensible safety rules in which no one can argue with.
I see in the latest issue of Trains magazine (NOV) that a scheme where BNSF have registered railfans, who while enjoying their hobby, inform the railroad if they see trespassing, or any fault they see on passing trains. It said BNSF are very pleased with the scheme.
It will be good to see photos of the SP 4-8-2.
ERIC Many thanks for the photo of the V3, it looks a powerful loco. Do you think the Diesel Hydraulics or Diesel Electrics were best for switching
It will be good to see your photos of the model railway in San diego
JAN Your comments on the darts reminded me about our skittle team (A little known game played in just three counties in the Midlands of England), that one of our players was only VERY good when he was angry, so it was the job of his mate to fire him up with comments like the ones in your post, if he wasn't playing too good, brought back great memories
I have some pictures from the model layout, one with one of their trestles, they must take a lot of work to construct but they look superb on a layout.
LARS I will probably need protection when we play at the Second Class Saloon, Mountain Man Mike has not forgotten I put him down as the leader of the Mentor Village Knitting Circle in the quiz Tom ran a while back.
I wish I knew what is going on with cameras and me lately. I though there would be more than three of my pics I could use but no. Luckily the bride has some and I thought I had transferred them to the JPEG format I can post already but I will.
Many thanks for the great photos of the 4-8-2s and the 4-8-4s I wonder if there was a reason the UP # 812 as the boiler painted in a light color. Great picture of the Daylight on the Horseshoe Curve, it seems the train loco is taking a breather while the helper is doing all the work.
TOM Only excuse I have it was hard to get photos at the model railway in San Diego it was quite dark and the model lines were behind plastic widows s I could not use a flash, if I had got one with me that is, anyway the bride took some so I will show them next week.
There is something weird though. I know I took photos at the zoo and in the boiler room on the Berkley but where they went I don't know. I don't think I touched your camera, but wait a minute though, I think you got me to take a photo of Fergie and you at Halifax. It was lucky it worked at all after I had my hands on it.
Yes I will look after all the liquor stocks but the amount of paperwork I have to generate so Manager Lars can do his ‘Admin Duties' is unbelievable.
Many thanks for the Bangor and Aroostook Fallen Flag Encore. The F unit looks great in that Blue and White livery, am I right in thinking that livery is very similar to the D&H colors.
I have some photos of inside the Sacramento Railroad Museum; I hope you can see what a great place it is. Unfortunately I could not see a guidebook in the great museum shop so if anyone has any details of the locomotives it would be great.
In the entrance of the museum.
Leon, it is time for my favorite, Rumpsteak Café de Paris. Fries, please! An ice cold Keith's will be perfect!
A busy day at work with a happy ending! A kind of quiet day here at the bar though. Which is okay.
Tom – Me? Using picture for target practice? No, no, I would never do that. Friday morning is my next practice hour (if I can find the pic... hrrmmm, the target, I mean). I’ll post a picture of my home in the old country on Saturday. Bangor & Aroostook, a railroad I actually have heard about before. Clearly not a class 1 railroad, but interesting never the less!JanOlov – I didn’t mind working on V3. I guess if I had had to do it every day it would have been a different story. Lars – It looks like D’backs will win again tonight. Now ahead 8-2 (top of 6th). A nice collection of 4-8-4’s! I like the picture from the SLO-Horseshoe Curve where the front locomotive seemingly is idling around the curve and the helper is pushing hard at the rear!Pete – You mentioned BNSF’s Citizens for Rail Security. I signed up for it when it was created. We have BNSF tracks to Phoenix and a lot of BNSF trains running across northern Arizona. I can’t recall I ever thought about any differences operating a diesel-hydraulic or a diesel-electric when switching. Maybe the diesel-hydraulic has a little advantage though. What railroad did #2467 come from? Nice pictures from a nice museum!
For Ron.
All dimensions in millimeters.
The drawing shows a Class Du with a steel body. The wooden one has the same dimensions but the windows are different as you can see in this picture.
The end of the work week <for many> has finally arrived! What better way to celebrate this day than with us at the breakfast nook Yeah - we've got freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee - freshly baked pastries stocked in The Mentor Village Bakery case - and - the Menu Board is loaded with <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts!!
OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place begins tomorrow, October 6th at Noon!
We are featuring GERMAN brew all month!
GERMAN sausages have been added to the menu for the month, with all the trimmings!
On Saturday's in October The Mentor Village Teutonic Society will sponsor Oompah Music live at the "Our" Place picnic grounds Pavillion and Dance Emporium! Performers include the Sauerkraut Band, Electric Lederhosen and Burst the Wurst Trio
Lederhosen and Alpine hats are being worn by "Our Place"! staff throughout the month!
Full scale LGB trains will be running on the main lines for free round trips to Can-Am Gorge on weekends - 10 AM to 4 PM. First northbound departs the "Our" Place platform at 10 AM sharp, undt ve mean, sharp!
PLAN TO SHARE THIS FALL CELEBRATION WITH US!
Thursday - Oct 4th:
Jan (JanOlov) at 9:31 AM: Was wondering WHO would be our first daytime customer since CM3 Shane "announced" he wouldn't be here on Thursday! Appreciate having your aboard ‘n it worked well, for the morning "slot" is important for this bar - as with a good breakfast, it's a healthy way to begin the day!
Yes, you might say we'll be "fortified" before, during ‘n after our Dart's tournament rounds . . . <urp> Sure you can't find it within yourself to step up I mean we're talking ALTERNATE for cripes sake!! <geesh> Think of it this way - you'll get a shirt ‘n leather ensemble to retain as keepsakes . . . if you think people will laugh at you during the Dart's tournament - just imagine what they'll do when they see you in THAT get up!! Ooooooooops, methinks I'm dissuading you . . . <grin>
Good continuing interaction between you ‘n the customers!
Appreciate the visit, round, cash, etc. . . . .
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10 AM: Appreciate seeing you in your familiar "slot" to keep things moving forward ‘round here.
Many thanx for being the FIRST to respond by Email to my request for the shirt info . . . Allan was SECOND! Anyway, not to worry about the leather pants - waistlines are elastic ‘n the "important" places are expandable too . . . <grin>
We'll be sure to capture the ‘spirit' of it all on our in-house security system cameras! No, no - Pete won't have a thing to do with those!!! <yikes>
I think you "pegged" it perfectly regarding the seemingly disjointed behavior from the Wolfman lately. He's been under tremendous stress - I mean consider the "performance" demands! Then the manipulation of the timing involved with one leaving town ‘n the other arriving and so forth. <double yikes>
The more I read that math explanation of yours, the more sense it makes! I think it's time for a triple jolt of JD on the rocks! <grin>
Enjoyed viewing your spate of steamers - nice choices, Mate!
Thanx for the round ‘n chat too!
Pete (pwolfe) at 4:01 PM: The return of the Hit ‘n Miss syndrome at the Watering Hole by the Wayside. Sure can't predict when we'll have a crowd ‘round here - BUT - we CAN depend upon YOU to keep things rolling along in the PM slot!
Enjoyed eavesdropping on your conversation - and - comments directed to me ‘n offer these comments:
(1) Don't be concerned about Mountain man Mike from the Second Class Saloon - he didn't understand a thing you said! <grin>
(2) How is "skittles" played
(3) Yes, you did take a couple of fotos with MY camera in Halifax ‘n they turned out well. However, I had the "settings" FIXED <aka: Pete-proof!>
(4) BAR livery is close - but no "seeeeegar." D&H blue was far more brilliant.
D&H ALCO PA1 #18 (copyright: Corel Corp.)
(5) Difficulties with the Pix taking in SDiego can only mean you'll have to
Here's something from the archives to add to the reading material at this cyber tavern . . .
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 384, 29 Aug 2006 on the Original Thread>
Chicago and North Western Railway
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.
Reporting marks
CNW, CNWS, CNWZ
Locale
Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Wyoming
Dates of operation
1865 - 1995
Successor line
Union Pacific
Track gauge
4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)
Headquarters
Chicago, Illinois
The Chicago and North Western Railway (AAR reporting marks: CNW, CNWS, CNWZ; unofficial abbreviation: C&NW) was a Class I railroad in the United States. It was also known as the North Western.
History
The Chicago and North Western Railway was chartered on June 7, 1859. It had purchased the assets of the bankrupt Chicago, St. Paul and Fond du Lac Railroad five days earlier. On February 15, 1865, it officially merged with the Galena and Chicago Union Railroad, which had been chartered on January 16, 1836. Since the Galena & Chicago Union started operating in December, 1848, and the Fond du Lac railroad started in March, 1855, the Galena and Chicago Union Railroad is considered to be the origin of the North Western railroad system.
The North Western had owned a majority of the stock of the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis and Omaha Railway (Omaha Road) since 1882. On January 1, 1957, it officially leased the company, and merged it into the North Western in 1972. The Omaha Road's main line ran from an interchange with the North Western at Elroy, Wisconsin, to the Twin Cities, down to Sioux City, Iowa, and then finally to Omaha, Nebraska.
The North Western picked up several important short railroads during its later years. It finalized acquisition of the Litchfield and Madison railroad on January 1, 1958. The Litchfield and Madison railroad was a 44-mile bridge road from East St. Louis to Litchfield, Illinois. On July 30, 1968, the North Western acquired two former interurbans - the 36-mile Des Moines and Central Iowa Railway (DM&CI), and the 110-mile Fort Dodge, Des Moines and Southern Railway (FDDM&S). The DM&CI gave access to the Firestone plant in Des Moines, Iowa, and the FDDM&S provided access to gypsum mills in Fort Dodge, Iowa.
On November 1, 1960, the North Western acquired the rail properties of the 1,500-mile Minneapolis and St. Louis Railway. In spite of its name, it ran only from Minneapolis, Minnesota, to Peoria, Illinois. This acquisition provided traffic and modern rolling stock, and eliminated competition.
On July 1, 1968
Ruth my deAH, set ‘em up for the boyz - treats for the crittAHs - PPF for Boris ‘n a hot mugga Joe with a double jolt for me! Change of course is for YOU my sweet! <blush>
Really a slow day at the Watering Hole by the Wayside on Thursday. As Da Bossman tells us, this joint is indeed a Hit ‘n Miss proposition or better yet, Feast or Famine! BUT, the guys who do keep things on an even keel really deserve special mention: SO here's to ya! <grin>
Baseball Gods are smiling this day as the Phillies are in the "hole" - right where they belong! <triple grin> Figured the Reptiles would do well against the Cubs - nevAH really thought the Indians wudda beaten the Yanks so badly. Didjano that the Yanks took all of the regular season games against ‘em So much for that, huh BoSox are in good shape out in southern Cal . . . surprise team has to be the Rockies.
Hockey is ON! I'm more than ready . . . now if my Jints can really keep the forward momentum, I'll be "set" between the NFL ‘n NHL for the wintAH!
Gotcha e-mail Cap'n Tom ‘n replied!
From Da Manager: I noticed two of our guys "on another thread" and wondered whether either of ‘em thought to invite whoever created that subject to come aboard???? I don't stray from either of Da Bossman's sites - but couldn't help but notice the cyber handles of our guys. NO PROBLEM with that of course.
So c'mon fellas - you know the "drill" - IF in your opinion you are "talking" to an ADULT (not an AH or JO or someone totally "anon") with what it takes to join us at the bar - INVITE him!! Refer the guy to page one, etc., etc., etc. Then Da Bossman will take it from there with the "official" welcome, etc.
For Da Boss! Liked the Bangor & Aroostook (that's a difficult name for me - I always want to say ArooSTOCK!) Anyway, the little known roads are the most intriguing and hold all kinds of "stuff" for the guy willing to do a bit of "digging."
Also today's feature is a winnAH too! Chicago & North Western - nicely done with the drum heads ‘n added "stuff" to the wikipedia material. You ALWAYS come up with something to keep us interested. Here's to Da Bossman! CHEERS, mate! [tup ]
Oh yeah, you want that I should get Vito the Hit to shake up Pete ‘n Eric for ya WHAT in the world is going on with these two Hmmmmmmmmm, smoking the funny stuff perhaps Nahhhhhhhhhh - drinking more than perhaps they should Probably! <grin>
For Pete ‘n Eric: Good to see the both of you at the bar yesterday - looks like the three of us are once again holding things together. Pretty much defines "regulars," huh Well, it ain't a competition, but I'll tell ya this - we NEED new customers!
Liked those Sacramento photos, Pete! Brought to mind some memories of my last visit to the place. Fantastic isn't it
Time again for the Larsman Mobile!
Bangor & Aroostook Railroad - The First 100 Years (1891-1991)
Chicago & North Western in Color - Vol 1 (1941-1953)
The Chicago & North Western Business Train
The Chicago & North Western Passenger Train Equipment
Ruth, I'll be up in the Penthouse Suite when you take your break - <ahem> admin work awaits!
Until the next time!
Lars
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