Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
One vote for Lima, please.
work safe
Good day Tom and all present at the bar. Drinks all around and a Guinness for me. Here is the last calendar from me for a while.
I have a few model pictures I would like to share with you. Most are of foreign engines, but the detail is incredible. All are HO except for the last one.
Class 110 by Lima models
GG-1 by Trix
Hogwarts Castle (Harry Potter)
Class BB by Jouef (correction, not a model)
E95 by Brawa
E95 detail
E77 by Brawa
E73 by Brawa
Type 142 by Brawa
Class E19 by Arnold (N scale)
James: Sounds like a nice project you have with the Milwaukee Road Depot.. Try to use LED's for lighting. They are more realistic. I don't know why more modelers are not using them instead of GOW's. Imagine a UP engine with a belpaire firebox. There were a few instances where other railroads used belpaire fireboxes, but they were used mostly by the PRR.
Jan: The boxpok drivers look OK on some engines, but I just can't take a liking for the Scullin discs. I'll stick with spokes all the way (although they are much harder to make for a model). I would have to guess it was Alco who did the most to develop steam power. Interesting question and a good topic for discussion.
DL: Meccano was produced in England and came out before erector sets did here. I understand erector sets are still being made, but they are no way anything like the original.
P.S. I might change my handle to "E-95".
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
No, no, Leon. Just a cup of coffee. I can't stay more than a few minutes.
Kind of tired tonight after a stressful day at work.
Tom – Most likely a trip to Churchill will be a “solo” trip. But I guess such a trip would not take place until 2009 as it looks now. If you could come along would be great, but let’s discuss that via email. I’m not blaming Lars for those typos. One can find faulty information all over the web. We are just human beings! I guess I am looking close at those pictures because they are interesting. Did not know about the beginning of Cardinals’ slide. The Snakes seem to have big problems hanging on to the lead, just one game ahead of the Padres.
JanOlov – Nice pictures of the streamliners and information! I am not a big fan of streamlined steam locomotives, but for whatever reason I kind of like Milwaukee’s streamliners!
That was a tough number of questions about the three BIG steam locomotive builders. I can’t say I have any good answers, because I don’t know enough about them. ALCO? I saw CM3 voted for Lima. He knows so much more and is very likely correct. Lars – Please, continue to post pictures! I find them very interesting and am looking forward to many more! What do you know about Sonia and her trip to St. Louis? Very nice Fleischmann models! From old steam locomotives to modern electrics. Hell Gate Bridge(s)! That is the first model of that bridge I’ve seen! The last picture shows an old toy locomotive that very much looks like my very first train. I don’t think it is, but it certainly looks like it. DL – Interesting info on Meccano! I had something similar, but a different brand, when I grew up and I built all kinds of things. I still have a few pieces of it in a box. I loved to construct vehicles of different kinds. CM3 – Thanks for the info on BEDT! But I could not find the map on that site. James – The very first time the X2000 was on static display it was for Amtrak employees only, that is when I took the picture of the sign. The public got many, many chances to see the train. I checked Boone Scenic Valley’s web site for info on that car, but did not find anything. Maybe they do not even have that car any more. I took the picture in 1987. Some very nice buildings for your layout! You will get a very nice station on your layout!!Ron – Very nice models! All but one electrics! That E-95 has very nice details! I have a GG-1 myself. Got it from Amtrak when I left them.
NJ Transit ALP-44. Penn Station, NYC, 1993.
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G'day Gents!
Thursday in mid-continent USA ‘n here we are AGAIN - one more day ‘til week's end! Why not join us for some breakfast The coffee ‘n pastries are fresh. And our Menu Board is chock full o' <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfast selections!
Comments from the Proprietor:
A good day for Wolfman Pete ‘n I over at the TrainWreck Saloon on Wednesday. We "managed" to squeeze in a few hours between the end of Pete's reason for being here ‘n the departure of his train back to JCity . . . What better place to wait for a train than where we were, eh Haven't done that in some time . . . . most enjoyable day, fer sure, fer sure Sir Pete!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Wednesday - Sep 19th:
Jan (JanOlov) at 8:32 AM: And the man in Glasgow didn't disappoint with another spate of fine fotos - this time "shrouded steamers"! Good choice w/narratives too!
Don't let the Larsman getcha - he's pretty much a bona fide "stay at home" when it comes to the bar. Not interested in "flitting ‘round" those other Threads on the Forums - and quite frankly, neither are the majority of us who've been keeping at this site for years. But, as was said - to each his own.
Lars IS right on about his comments regarding ‘competition.' We had a guy who was really "into" this place - and at one point pretty much kept it running with his well thought out and LENGTHY submissions - no, NOT 20 Fingers. Anyway, he told me once that he felt "intimidated" by the amount of material being Posted at "Our" Place ‘n felt that he'd have to keep up in order to fit in. That's is absolutely the WRONG way to approach this joint . . . but I think you know that, eh
Enjoyed your Post ‘n thanx for the "top up," cigars ‘n cash!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:19 AM & 11:16 AM: TWO morning visits takes a bit of getting used to, especially since you've been our PM guy for a couple of weeks. Great to see ya!
Nice spate of Toy ‘n Model Train submissions, which have enabled me to "lay low" on that score for this Wednesday! You've "done good," Mate!
We didn't pursue the independent web site for "Our" Place because the idea pretty much died on the vine. I had received quite a few Email responses, but no one came up with the "How to" - so I let it go. I'm still in favor of getting away from these Forums, but until we figure out what the "landing" will be like - best to stick it out for now.
That "other" place wouldn't be MY office, now would it!?!!? <grimace>
Mets folding the tent Cards took 14 innings to lose - again on Tuesday, but pulled one out last night in the 10th.
Many thanx for the rounds, chat, fotos ‘n visits!
Dan (DL-UK) at 11:25 AM: An appropriate submission for our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! Fit right in. I had not heard of Meccano before, but now am certainly well up to speed! Thanx for the info ‘n links.
Unfortunately, your Post came through in the ‘wide page' format. The good thing is that because it wasn't a lengthy epistle, scrolling back ‘n forth was easier to do than most times when the narrative takes up more vertical space than a Page will hold. Guess those long URLs are the culprits. Oh well . . .
Appreciate the visit ‘n fine material!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 11:28 AM: Figured you were tied up at work - but there you were! Had us fooled, fer sure, fer sure.
Glad the RR BOOK RELAY 2007! made it to WVA! <
Greetings Tom and gentlemen in the Fellowship of the Turntable....
Nice and quiet morning I see..... May I please have an extra cold Guinness, top up and cigars for the boys and here's something for you as well...
A few $$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
If you excuse me there's some work to be done in the kitchen.... Fish ‘ Chips to be made and served....
CMSTPP, Milwaukee Road had definitely two of the most beautiful streamlined steam locomotives ever built in the A's and F-7's......HALLELUJAH! Their home made offspring doesn't look bad either.... I currently have 7 Milwaukee Road books with another two in the mail which I sincerely hope show up before the weekend so that I have something to read. Always looking for more, like the ones from Morning Sun Books in all color.....yummy!
DD1, I'm for all kind of drivers you could say as I already mentioned. But as you say spokes are timless and I wouldn't mind to have a pair from a NYC Hudson or Niagara in the livingroom as a centre piece....
EricX2000, to be completely honest with you, I wasn't a fan of streamlined steam at all from the the beginning. But, then along came N&W with their J's and later Milwaukee Road with their A's and F-7's, kicking me while lying down....not much chance to fight back then, have you?
Tom, not to worry mate. Should our beloved Da Larsman cross the line, I'll just show him a selection of steamers from a not entirely unknown railroad company to keep him at bay... He's like a wee poodle, barks worse than he bites.....
coalminer3, 3137 you say....errmmm... I have to agree with you on this one, no doubt. Those Scullin discs would have looked much better on a streamlined Hudson than on this Mohawk. Now the girl looks just odd, no...back on with the spokes again and she'll look just fine..
Looking at everybody's posts for Optional Toy & Model Trains Day and the style of some of the electrics it makes you wonder if there's ANY design schools around at all today, or if they just hand out a pair of rulers and tell them to "knock themself out"? Where's class, soul, where's THE the magic in todays designs?
Some studies in style, Europe/SBB:
Be 4/6, passenger locomotives for the Gotthard line, nrs. 12301-12342.
Ce 6/8 II, High-power early electric "Crocodile" locomotives, nrs. 14251-14283
Ae 3/6 II, Electric locomotives with side rods, nrs. 10401-10460.
Credit: railfaneurope.net
Not saying that ALL things were better back in the day, but some truly was though. I only have to say GG1 compared to E-44 to make my point.... I honestly think that designers today see what they more as a job and career than anything else, I don't know if the word "call" would fit in here.... Where's todays Loewy, Kuhler and Dreyfuss I ask?
From Roco for Optional Toy & Model Trains Day (if not too late):
Class E-32
Class E-16
Class Ae6/8
Ruth my deAH, what a glow to brighten up the morn! A number # from the board, a mugga Joe with a jolt ‘n a couple of pastries from the case! That should kick-start the day for me! And of course a round for the house ‘n treats for the crittAHs. Yes, Boris - feeding time again AND the small jar of PPF is for YOU!
What's THIS I hear Da Boss ‘n Da Wolfman spent the day at a saloon OTHER than "Our" Place!?!?! Isn't that a oh-fence?!?!? BUT, how does one the guy who has the !?!?!
Must be nice having a buddy to hook up with now ‘n then for some imbibing at a place with the atmosphere of "Our" Place though! Honestly can't tell ya the last time I did that - hmmmmmmm, on second thought, I can! St. Paddy's Day in "the city." Always stop off at a few "favorite" watering holes on the way back home. Yeah, yeah - I KNOW, that's NOT "in vogue" these days ‘n times, but we do it anyway! Glad you guyz had a good time. Photos AND was Silvia in town
Was quite the day yesterday with flurries of activity to keep things going. Glad my posts helped a bit to keep us "up." But more importantly, the conversations going on are what this joint is all about ‘n it's good to get in on "stuff" being discussed.
Got your e-mail Cap'n Tom ‘n thanx. I'll have to give some thought to your idea, but you KNOW that if my schedule permits, I'll do everything possible to meet up with youse guyz!! Really mean that. Also, once wintAH sets in, IF you ‘n your Mrs. evAH change your mind about Florida, c'mon down ‘n spend some time with us in the Keys!! It would be a blast for sure!
Sorry ‘bout the RR Book Relay "thing"!! Don't have the foggiest what I was thinking about. Just prepared it for mailing, ‘n used the return address on the envelope I received from you. Wasn't thinking - "my bad"! BUT, don't you think the "punishment" is a bit too severe for the "crime" I mean - banished from the Penthouse Suite ‘til October.
YOUR office Now you know bettAH than THAT! Drat it - foiled again!
On the sports front: Mets are in trouble - but the Cards helped last night with a victory over the Phillies. I see the Yanks have really come on strong, or is it the Sox in Bahstun are experiencing a bit of METitis Isn't September a grand month for baseball
For Eric! Not to worry, mate - I'm only kidding around. Not offended at all regarding constructive pointers regarding info to make my posts more accurate. Heck, what's the point in perpetuating misinformation, huh Youse guyz with da Eagle Eyez -
Silvia Now you KNOW I can't "talk" about it here . . .
For those who contributed to Toy & Model Trains Day! 5- Salute! ] It's an idea that seems to have been "reborn" at the "reborn" Watering Hole by the Wayside! That's the idea guyz - keep it for Wednesday ‘n it will remain SPECIAL! Nice going.
So what's with Fergie, our sailor friend in Nova Scotia Have seen him logged in ‘n really thought he'd provide some pix for us yesterday - but not to be.
For Jan! As Da Bossman said - don't mind me. I just get a bit carried way when it comes to the crap, junk ‘n otherwise inane stuff put on these forums ‘n threads. I'm only here because of "Our" Place - spend very little time elsewhere (Tom's other thread being the single exception!). Don't care for the "anon" people - can't enjoy "one way" people ‘n absolutely refuse to give any slack to the JO's out there . . . nope, no way, now how!
I used to have a pretty good thread working on the forums some years ago. Had a different cyber handle back then. Got totally turned off by the "know it alls" ‘n "flamers" who seem to delight in causing grief, but are less than men when it comes to honesty in terms of identity and the like. Hiding behind the keyboard turns me OFF. "Caught" a couple at it - reported ‘em - but haven't really seen anything tangible take place to control things. I'm not talking about "free speech," I'm talking about those who are complete AH's - they know it, ‘n so do we.
Anyway, when I returned, it was ONLY because I found "Our" Place. I like the way things are here - for the most part we've had some really great guys over the years ‘n this present crew is simply outstanding. Just like in real life at a real bar, there are those you engage with ‘n th
Greetings Tom Almighty and fellow bar habitants.....
I think that it's time for my second extra cold Guinness for the day. So if I may that for myself, top up and cigars for the rest of mafia it would very much appreciated. Here's something for yourself as well....
Da Larsman, no need to explain my good man. If you want to have great place like this watering hole to hang out in cyberspace, you need someone to hold the whip to keep people staying straight in the line.... I wouldn't say anything about getting carried away, just remember my thread about Hank Williams was it? Now, THAT is getting carried away mate... i have nothing over for those ""know it alls" ‘n "flamers" who seem to delight in causing grief, but are less than men when it comes to honesty in terms of identity and the like"" either and for what it's worth I think that you're doing a grand job I have met nothing but decent and honest people around here and I'm proud to call you all my friends.....
Great pictures as always mate !
First! Again and Again-- The Milwaukee Road!First line between Chicago and the Twin Cities -- the only double tracked route.First and only road to operate over its own rails all the way from Chicago to the North Pacific Coast.First to adopt roller bearings for through passenger trains.First to operate all-steel trains between Chicago and the Twin Cities; between Chicago and Seattle-Tacoma.First to use open observation cars on transcontinental trains
First to use steam heat and electric lights on trains between Chicago and the Twin Cities.
First to operate long distance trains by electric power.
First with radio between Chicago and the Twin Cities.
First with coil spring mattresses.First with streamstyled luxury coaches one-third lighter than standard and offering one-third more room per passenger.
And Now - -First to have designed and built a streamlined, highspeed steam locomotive.
First to introduce a completely streamstyled super speed train of the light-heavyweight type.
First with buffet section such as is exemplified in the Tip Top Tap Room.First with a Beaver Tail rear-end car.
Good to see Lars 'n Jan about the decks this fine day . . . so far, no one else has ventured in. But, we takes what we gets, eh
Here's something to liven up the joint from yesterday's shennigans over at the TrainWreck Saloon with Wolfman Pete!
Six Pack o' Fun - Part One!
(1) Wolfman Pete with THAT bag of his!
(2) G-gauge at the TrainWreck (no flash - that's the sun's reflection!)
(3) Pete 'n Sonia, errrrrr Sylvia errrrrrr - oh never mind!
(4) One of Boris' pets!
(5) Lunch crowd vanished!
(6) Pete has the hat!
More later!
Tom
Really slow today - so go ahead Ruth, take the rest of the day for yourself - I'll watch things 'til Leon comes in!
Six Pack o' Fun - Part II
(7) Corner of back bar . . . who cares about TV
(8) Back bar
(9) Dining area - entrance to rear dining room 'n patio
(10) Sure looks like the Penthouse Suite up there!
(11) Reworked entry way - where glass blocks are was location of original set of doors (one set at either end).
(12) Yes, a fine place to meet!
Enjoy!
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Here we are again - better late than not at all. Nice day here for weather and gas is down to $2.89.
DD1 sent a good calendar shot; Tri-Motor and a K4 what else do we need? PRR used a similar design in some advertising copy they did for the "Spirit of St. Louis" when it went into service. Lindbergh's plane was flying over the train, the graphic was otherwise the same. Thanks also for the model pictures.
Jan - Thanks for electric pictures. I remember reading somewhere re design questions that "form used to follow function." The writer went on to say that it didn't anymore because of fabrications costs, etc. IOW, "Boxes R Us."
Lars sent some good Wabash pictures. The 4-8-2 on the turntable - gotta like the front end treatment, shielded pumps, marker lights, etc. The one of Wabash 2804 has a C&O coal car lurking in the background.
OSP sent general comments along, too. Our friend, Pete, looks like a satisfied customer.
Well, gotta get out of here. Apologies to anyone I left out of this post, but time is short right now. Will be back on regular schedule tomorrow and Mo-Tu of next week, then on the road for the balance of the week.
Work safe
Hi Tom and all.
A Bathams please Ruth on this return to summer day in Mid Mo.
My business in St Louis was done at lot quicker that I though it would and I was able to send a very pleasant time with TOM at the TrainWreck saloon . The photos of the saloon have come out really great but most important the saloon has a truly wonderful atmosphere and of course I was in great company. The only problem this was my overnight accomodation after the session..
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Seriously though it was a great trip back on Amtrak along the Missouri with a near enough on time arrival and a very friendly Amtrak train crew.
I hear that Manager LARS got a very rare "Tweeting". I wonder where the admin duties will be done for the rest of September.
I still have to catch up to date as it took ages to load the brides digital photos. I have one here of taken inside San Diego station.
So keep the Bathams coming while I get up to date please RUTH, and a round for all. It will be good to have the Our Place Fish 'N' Chip after a two week break..
Pete.
Long awaited visit from Wolfman Pete 'n surprise PM visit from CM3 Shane!
Final installment . . .
Six Pack o' Fun - Part III
(13) MoPac caboose annex - serves as a bar for the patio!
(14) ditto
(15) Yeah, that's Stealthy Pete at the Kirkwood Amtrak Station!
(16) The man 'n his bag! <grin>
(17) Define "objects" for us - so says Boris! <uh oh>
(18) Worth reading! But ENLARGE first . . . <ooooooooooh>
That's It!
Friday has arrived - the BEST day of the work week, eh
Begin the day with a freshly ground ‘n brewed mugga Joe - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Friday - Sep 20th:
Jan (JanOlov) at 8:05 AM: Real ‘n model trains all rolled up in one fine Post from our Resident Swede in Scotland! Sorry folks, the man just can't figure out where Wednesday falls in the week! <uh oh>
As always, appreciate the "top up," cigars ‘n cash!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 8:27 AM: And along comes our Manager with some dialogue, some fine steam loco fotos ‘n insights that only could come from our Resident Staten Islander!
Many thanx for the round ‘n daily "pick us up"!!
Jan (JanOlov) at 11 AM: Second visit of the day with Milwaukee Road "firsts" - presumably from an advertisement . . .
More cigars ‘n another "top up"!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:48 PM: An afternoon visit from our WVA Connection!
As Willie Nelson's song goes, "On the road again, just can't wait to get on the road again . . . " <grin> Well, at least we'll see ya for a couple of days next week before you head out.
Thanx for the visit, quarters, round ‘n chat! AND appreciate the visit(s) to "my other Thread"!!
Pete (pwolfe) at 3:06 PM: Well, it's NOT a Sears catalog or corn cob that Wolfman is holding! It's an Olde Towne souvenir book . . . no "sanitary" paper <grin>
Lars ‘n Ruth subscribe to the old saw - "Where there's a will, there's a way!" <grin>
Santa Fe mosaic tile is a "keeper"!!
Thanx for the visit ‘n round!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, I'm in the mood for . . . a sandwich! <grin> So, fix me up a Larsman Special hero - ham ‘n Swiss ‘n mustAHd ‘n buttAH with two extra large ‘n crunchy pickles from the barrel! Thank you - also, a round for the boyz ‘n treats for the crittAHs - the change is yours from the fifty!
Boris, don't look so neglected, mate - the small jar of PPF is for YOU - just feed the gang! <geesh> You'd think he'd "get it" by now, huh <grin>
So, what are we to make of this latest round of being DIW (dead in the water)?? Feast or Famine is pretty much where we're at right now. C'mon guyz - the bar awaits!
Loved the photo spread yesterday, Cap'n Tom! I'm envious to the point where I just may surprise you with a visit, as long as we can go to the Train Wreck saloon that is! Looks like my kinda place too! Do they rent rooms <uh oh>
As many times as you've provided photos of that tavern, I never get tired of looking at ‘em. Maybe you should tell the "story" again - now that we've got some relative newcomers. Really does look like "Our" Place!! Thanks again for letting us "in" on your adventures with Stealthy Pete!
I sent you an e-mail this morning . . . just a head's up!
For Pete! Kinda "both ends" of the photo spectrum with that post of yours! Being a basic city "kid," I'm not "into" corn cobs - but do recall hearing about people using the Sears pages "back in the day"! <uh oh>
I remember seeing signs like the one you posted of the Santa Fe while in California. They used that motif quite a bit. My guess is our Left Coast Connection (wherever the guy is these days) could enlighten us some about that. Speaking of our semi-UTB - can't believe he got to St. Louis but DIDN'T connect with Da Boss. <geesh> That ought to be a <triple tweeting> for sure!
So just how long does it take you to catch up?!!?!? <geesh> Didn't figger you for a slow poke! <double geesh>!!
Good to see Jan ‘n CM3 I'm NOT Shane! stop by yesterday!
Ok, so what's on tap for this day Hmmmmmm, how ‘bout THESE!
Ruth, we bettAH make haste to our "secret place" - only so much time in your break ‘n the <ahem> admin matters won't wait! <grin>
Until the next time!
Lars
Hello Tom and all in
If it is pizza night I'll choose something from the menu, but I'll have a pint of mild to keep me going.
I've finally finished the catch up from my time away (but missed some good stuff from the last few days) - so it goes.
Sorry about the wide page phenomenon Tom, I feared that - I reduced the links as small as I could but it seems to do that to you (stays fine for me).
Anyway - I'm getting access to all the pics now so nice to see those Trainwreck Saloon shots from the other day (and some great book covers from Lars from pages back).
I particularly enjoyed those Milwaukee Road pictures from Jan of the Turkey Trestle - nice colour vintage shots of a spectacular location. I guess that line is no longer with us?
Also - just to add to a question from Ron a while back - when I was in Canada at a diner they offered bacon in two styles - regular style and ‘peameal style' - it was peameal that was closest to the English style I found. I opted for the regular (crispy) style while I was there most times since I can get it the other way here any day of course.
Anyway - Pete - welcome back - looking forward to your trip report. I've held off part of my trip report of the ONR trip to Moosonee in northern Ontario since I thought you might enjoy that (Tom has been waiting for that since it is trip he is keen to try). Meanwhile I've been catching up and your posting of Red for Danger inspired me to go and buy Tom Rolt's 1944 book Narrow Boat - which I'm now half way through.
He starts off his trip on his converted barge in 1939 from Banbury up into Warwickshire and Leicestershire through areas I expect you know well then to the Trent and across to Burton (where I have got to with my reading) and then into the potteries. It is a good read - although interestingly he subscribes rather to the ‘country is going to the dogs' school of criticism, criticising the tendency for workers to abandon craft knowledge, to move off the land into factory working, and also criticises the brewers for wrecking the local pubs and boozers by the canals and in villages. I suspect it is partly a romanticised view of the history of ‘merrie olde' but as I say it is very good read and I was up late reading it last night when I got back from the pub - makes you wonder how they can still be wrecking the pubs now as they regularly are doing - 65 years later!
Good weekend to all!
DL
Feeling just a bit on the <sad> side right now - 'n those of you who are recipients of my Email know why!
Not trying to keep the rest of you in the dark - I just heard from one of our "old timers" at the bar - BK (BudKarr) 'n the news wasn't good. As suspected, his Lady Lydia passed away. Details best left out of the Ether - those of you with a need to know now do!
Should you ever return - know that your stool has been made PERMANENT 'n you're ALWAYS welcome here!
On a brighter note - good to see our Manager - Lars - drop in with some great book 'n video covers! Also Dan over in the UK didn't forget us on this Friday! So, where are the rest of ya
Here's a little something to wind up the day from my end of things . . .
<Initially Posted on Page 365, 27 June 2006 over on the Original Thread>
The single S2, #6200, in a PRR promotional image. (Public Domain) PRR S2 #6200 (foto credit: unknown) QUOTE: The Pennsylvania Railroad used the largest direct-drive steam turbine locomotive in the world. Built by Baldwin Locomotive Works, the S2 Turbine, c/n 70900, was delivered to Pennsylvania Railroad in September of 1944. It was originally designed as a 4-8-4, but due to shortages of lightweight materials during World War II, the S2 became the only locomotive ever built with a 6-8-6 wheel arrangement. PRR #6200, the S2 turbine, had a maximum power output of 6,900 HP (5.1 MW) and was capable of speeds over 100mph. With the tender, the unit was approximately 123 feet long. While the gearing system was simpler than a generator, it had a fatal flaw: the turbine was inefficient at slow speeds. Below about 40 mph (64 km/h) the turbine used enormous amounts of steam and fuel. At high speeds, however, the S2 could propel heavy trains almost effortlessly and efficiently. The smooth turbine drive put far less stress on the track than a normal piston-driven locomotive. However, poor efficiency at slow speeds doomed this turbine, and with diesel-electrics being introduced, no more S2s were built. This magnificent machine was retired in 1949 and scrapped in May, 1953. courtesy: www.wikipedia.com
QUOTE: The Pennsylvania Railroad used the largest direct-drive steam turbine locomotive in the world. Built by Baldwin Locomotive Works, the S2 Turbine, c/n 70900, was delivered to Pennsylvania Railroad in September of 1944. It was originally designed as a 4-8-4, but due to shortages of lightweight materials during World War II, the S2 became the only locomotive ever built with a 6-8-6 wheel arrangement. PRR #6200, the S2 turbine, had a maximum power output of 6,900 HP (5.1 MW) and was capable of speeds over 100mph. With the tender, the unit was approximately 123 feet long. While the gearing system was simpler than a generator, it had a fatal flaw: the turbine was inefficient at slow speeds. Below about 40 mph (64 km/h) the turbine used enormous amounts of steam and fuel. At high speeds, however, the S2 could propel heavy trains almost effortlessly and efficiently. The smooth turbine drive put far less stress on the track than a normal piston-driven locomotive. However, poor efficiency at slow speeds doomed this turbine, and with diesel-electrics being introduced, no more S2s were built. This magnificent machine was retired in 1949 and scrapped in May, 1953.
courtesy: www.wikipedia.com
Enjoy 'n see y'all on Saturday for Photo Posting 'n ENCOREs! Tom
Good day Tom and all present at the bar. Drinks are on me and a Guinness for me. I usually post some time in the late evening, so the time differential between central time and down under puts my replies late in coming.
Lars: Those Fleischmann engines are fine looking. I wish I could afford to buy all of them. Marklin has always been my favorite in the "toy" category. I had a friend in NYC who had a set when I was about 10 years old. I had HO, but I liked his better even though they were 3 rail because they would run reliably, not like mine. I guess that's why Lionel was the leader. They were way out of scale, ran too fast, but they were reliable. Today, one might consider three rail as "scale" since there were (are) some railway lines that use a three-rail system. Models like those from Williams and MTH have shown what can be done in O gauge. A three-rail layout with long sweeping curves and reduced running speeds can get pretty close to scale model railroading. Some like to super detail models down to the number of rivets and minute differences from one loco to another of the same class. This is fine, if that's your thing. To me, I approach model railroading from the point of view that it is my railroad and I can do what I want with it. Real railroads do this all the time. They take license to make changes. So too I can do the same. I think it's more fun to run a train the way you want and not have to stick to schedules. I have never seen the Lionel Hell Gate bridge, not even at Greenberg shows, but I would be very happy with that layout of Terry Johnson. I would straighten out the curves and run the trains slower for a more realistic appearance.
I agree with you about the "flamers" and anonymous ah's who hide behind their keyboards. Great looking Wabash pics.
CM3: I worked at the Brooklyn Navy Yard in the mid 50's for a short time, before going to the Boston NSY, Portsmouth NSY, Puget Sound NSY and the San Francisco NSY. I have visited just about every shipyard in the CONUS and several repair facilities throughout the rest of the world. I guess my love of ships, shadowed my love for trains, so I probably didn't pay as much attention to trains as I should have.
Tom and Pete: The Trainwreck Saloon looks like my kind of place. The only trouble is if I were there, it would be difficult to drag me away. I never visit saloons or bars anymore since the DUI laws have been tightened
Jan: I guess we are all in agreement about "flamers", etc. I find them in other websites as well and I just won't acknowledge them. If a man has the strength of his conviction, then he should not be worried about letting his name be known to the world. Ever since I have been on the Internet, I have always used my real name as I have never and never will say something that I don't believe 100%. You are welcome to disagree with me and I welcome such dialog. The only thing I insist on is good manners, a civil conversation and no name-calling. Rudeness has no place on the web or anywhere else. It's always the ones with the rude replies that post as "anonymous". They don't have the b---- to use their real name.
Tom: That's an interesting ceiling in the Trainwreck Saloon. Looks like copper sheets nailed to the ceiling. That was a good idea to incorporate the caboose into the saloon. I don't know if you had them east of the rockies, but there was a chain of steak houses called Victoria Station (mostly in California) that were several box cars connected together in various configurations. They were filled with memorabilia of British railways. I think they went belly-up, but the food was great. An interesting bit about the PRR turbines. Many new ships built today, are gas turbine driven. That is just the state of the art that exists today. Gas turbines were tried before on trains, but were not practical at the time. Maybe now it could become the power plant of the future for trains.
I didn't know BK, but my condolences anyway. BTW, did you know that down here in Ms, all traffic comes to a halt during a funeral motorcade until it passes? I wonder if it's done in other places as well. It's not a law, but it is done to show respect. When I first came down here, I encountered such an event and never having witnessed it before, I just kept going. I found out about it later when I described it to fellow workers.
Pete: Is that an old jail cell you are standing next to?
DL: I never heard of "peameal" bacon. Could you describe it or compare the taste to something common? BTW, do you like Spam (as in Monty Python's Spam)? I heard that Spam was common in England during the war and people finally got sick of it. Hawaii consumes more Spam per capita than any other state. I like it, especially the new smoked flavor.
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
OSP - Rec'd your e-mail; a toast to absent friends is in order, I believe. Thanks for the six pack (enlarged the Kirkwood plaque - good story), and the PRR picture. It looks as though the shot of 6200 was made near Englewood.
Pete stopped by with pictures. The ATSF mosaic is excellent. You look hard around parts of the area you will find Chessie done the same way. No, Boris, the original cat, not the stylized one they put on the coal cars.
Lars stopped by with comments and some good IC items. Both vols. 1 and2 of the Pentrex IC video you showed are good.
DL visited with comments as well.
DD1 - Always intriguing to me how many folks who "follow" trains also "follow" ships, and vice versa. Sounds you hit just about every spot (high and low) during your career. We had lots of folks in the neighborhood who worked at the Charlestown Yard doing all sorts of things. The last big project(s) they did was a FRAM program where a lot of Baltimore class cruisers got converted into missile cruisers. I attended the commissioning of the USS Providence back in the day which included several educational activities afterwards. No, Boris that's all we can say "on the air."
My dad grew up around Newprt and Pt. Judith, RI and has some excellent stories about battleships, etc. moored in Narragansett Bay in front of his house, lighter than air ships, etc. Good stuff, for sure. The whole area got obliterated in the 1938 hurricane which was exactly 69 yrs ago today.
The "Spammobile" (Boris would love it) was at the Erie County Fair last year. My son (who like the rest of the family is a Monty Python devotee) forced me into taking picture of him standing beside the vehicle which was decorated with a picture of Sir Spamalot ('nuff said!).
The Johnson Brat semi (which converted into a GIANT BBQ grill) was much more interesting - maybe we can rent it for the annual Mentor Holiday debauch (no, Awk, we need to call it "party.") I don't know, however, because the budget's a bit tight since we just got done paying off the remaining fines from last year. The environmental impact statement was also a bit costly as well. For those who aren't up-to-speed, you can find out what happened by going back to the old page(s) from December of last year. Never let it be said we don't have imaginatiion(s).
Note to OSP - Are they doing darts this year or a pumpkin catapulting contest?
Hi Tom and all,
A round of Tui`s for all the crew please Leon.
Tom. Sad news of BK, please pass on our condolences. Looked as if you and Pete had a great time at the "Trainwreck Saloon", nice selection of photo`s of the trip, did Pete take any of you? Enjoyed all you posts and pics over the past few days, I am re-decorating the bathroom and laundry so time is tight at the moment!
Pete. Looked as if your accomodation was fully air conditioned by the photo, was it full room service as well? You and Tom must have some great chinwags at all your meetings, it`s great to see you back on deck again.
Lars. What a great selection of steam pics and book covers, great Santa Fe selection you posted.
Jan. Keep the steam coming mate, enjoyed your selection of loco`s, my favourites are SF Northern and of course the LNER A4.
Eric. The line through here still handles freight traffic, it serves the port of Napier so we get a lot of container traffic of meat and processed food reefers, a lot of woodchips for Japan as well, we also get steam enthusiasts special`s going through at least a couple of times a year. Enjoyed all your posts and pics.
Dan. Really enjoyed your Mecanno info and links, used to get the Mecanno Magazine every month until I was 16, must have taken a heck of a job to get all those issues onto DVD whoever did it deserves a medal. Enjoying all your posts mate.
Per. We used to eat a lot of "Soused" [in vinager] raw herring in the North East of England as well, I think they came from Norway or your old home country, it certainly tastes a lot better than Vegemite! Enjoyed all your posts.
Ron and James. Enjoying all the model railway posts of yours.
CM3. Great info on the NY Shore Lines, did you ever get to ride the Rangley Lakes RR in Mass' at all? It`s steam loco`s look really neat and well maintained.
Hav`nt seen Mike or Dave lately!
See ya, Allan
A round please RUTH, as I am now up to date at the bar.
It as been great catching up there have been great posts in the two weeks I have been away and this week as well. I will have to edit my notes and comments as if I do all I written the post will go on for ages.
JAN Really enjoyed the railroad song lyrics, all well written. I had not realized there were so many. Many thanks for the great photos and descriptions. I noticed on one page with the description of the loco shown it said, "no survivors of this class remain" which I found very sad. I see in one photo of two Cab-forwards double heading, I bet it must have been not pleasant at all on the second engine.
A couple of questions if I may. I see Eric and you have talking about geese, do you know if they still use geese as guard dogs at that distillery not too far north of Glasgow. I think it is the West Highland line that runs past it and the geese were sometimes visible from the train although it as been a long time since I have seen them.
Also I see you were a steam fireman, was that on a preserved line in Scotland, or I have I got that wrong.
JAMES Many thanks for your posts and the kind words. I am really enjoying the Milwaukee Road and the talk about it between Jan and you..
I heard Tom was looking for someone to clean BORIS'S shed again
I saw on the weather report this morning that there may be bad weather near you, so keep safe.
ERIC I see you posted a photo quiz I knew some of the answer to the one just after I left, of the two D.C traction motors, although they are the largest locomotive traction motors I have seen were they built by ASEA.
We had a tour in that Irish bus on one of the trips to Ireland visiting railway places around Dublin, it left three of us behind after the first stop but we knew where they were stopping for lunch so we caught it there.
Great photo of the electrics in the round house.
I know it is hard, but try not to let any stress at work get to you, please friend.
CM3 Glad you got "Red for Danger" OK. Really wonderful post on the B&M.
Can you tell me how far it is between Louisville and Birmingham. I guess the line had water pans.
Yes the Santa Fe mosaic is in great condition it is great there are still signs of a bygone age still around in their original places
PER Great to see you back in. Those are great photos of UP # 844 thanks for sharing.
RON I was very sorry to read of the loss of your four-legged friend. They are part of the family and when it is time for them to go it does leave a big space.
Many thanks for those calendar photos and posts. The poster, which was on page 108, would make a great quiz for the regulars at the bar, I bet we could name what types they were between us.
That indeed is an old jail in my photo, not a ‘carzey' as Lars and Tom thought.
It is a lot easier to get me in the TrainWreck saloon than get me out, as Tom will testify. The place does have a wonderful atmosphere.
Good words on the people at the bar, we have been very lucky.
DL Many thanks for the Canadian report, looking forward to more. The station tour sounded great, were there any British brews at the Roundhouse brewery.
It is sobering to think that LTC ROLT thought the British pubs were going downhill in the 1940s I wonder what he would have said today with some many going for houses
I guess from the report of the record run from London to Paris that the Channel Tunnel link is ready to be fully opened soon.
Great link to the Meccano Magazines, I remember them from the late 1950s and 60s I always loved the artwork on the covers.
ALLAN Enjoyed the link to the Rimutaka Incline Railway
Greetings young master Tom and gentlemen....
May I trouble you for an extra cold Guinness, top with cigars for the lads and something for yourself.....
Tom, excellent pictures my good man . Is that what "our" place looks like if I may ask? Why the name Trainwreck Saloon?
coalminer3, indeed it doesn't. Todays designers has if you ask me, totally lost the touch... "You can draw anything you like in anyway you want as long it is box like with almost square corners....."
pwolfe, great Santa Fe mosaic herald ! Any chance that you can hook me up with the same but for Milwaukee Road?
Da Larsman, some more awesome cover to enjoy ! I LOVE those colors on Illinois Central's "City Of Miami" (might remember wrong here, was it New Orleans maybe?). That was some train to ride thinking about the inside pictures in my Pullman books back in Sweden.... Something for Amtrak to look into, right?
DL - UK, the trestles that Milwaukee Road had are my absolute favorites, some are still standing..... A true shame that company is no longer with us.
Tom, did you know that the Swedish railroad company TGOJ had the only really successful steamturbines in the world? They built three if my memory serves me right and they're all still with us... http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/swedturb/swedturb.htm
DD1, I complete agree with you...
Gunneral, steam is the king in my "world" I do let in an occasional 1st generation diesel and electric, yes even some 2nd generation too....
Have a great weekend folks!
Whooops!! Almost forgot (hangs head in shame) $$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer...
Leon, I think I would like one of my favorites tonight, Filet Mignon with lots of mushroom! Ice cold Keith's please.
Missed my visit last night. Was way to tired so I decided to get some extra rest instead. These early mornings are killing me.
Tom – A bunch of very nice pictures from a very nice place, Trainwreck Saloon! You even managed to catch Stealthy Pete! It all reminds me about a very nice weekend in May this year! Bet you had a great time! Received your mail. Very sad news from BK. My condolences and, as CM# put it, a toast to absent friends.
PRR Class S2 is a very interesting locomotive. Not a big success, but still. I think it was the direct-drive that was the problem at lower speed.JanOlov – If they (the streamliners) were kicking you while lying down, no, not much you can do. That is why I am trying to stand up as much as possible. I accept streamliners, but prefer the “normal” steam locomotives. Nice pictures of the Swiss electrics! I have actually seen some of them in service, including the “Crocodile”. Switzerland is a perfect place to go to ride trains. When I was working there I used most weekends traveling by train around the country. I had a pass so it didn’t cost a cent. You are bringing up some interesting facts on Milwaukee Road!Lars – Good looking steam locomotives from Wabash Railway! From the top #2802, Class M-1, #2904 Class O-1, #2804 Class M-1, #642 Class H-12, and #621 Class E-3. According to my info, Class O-1 were the last steam locos in service, retired 1955-56.Nice book and video covers! Illinois Central. I think “Railroading on the Illinois Central” sounds very interesting. Written by a retired locomotive engineer. It is now on my list.You have so much admin matters to take care of so I actually feel sorry for you. Why don’t you hire somebody to help you? Ruth must be exhausted by all the double work. DL – Is there any map showing all the canals in the UK? I have seen some of them myself and I have been reading a lot about them. They seem to be everywhere. CM3 – I think that is a very good idea, to rent the Johnson Brat semi for the annual Mentor Holiday debauch! I think Manager Lars has a credit card we can charge it to. Pete – Nice accomodation! Air conditioned! I never noticed any palm trees outside in St. Louis though! Hmmm.Yes, those two traction motors were built by ASEA. That was the size they neede for more powerful AC motors in the early 1900’s. It is actually a DC motor but it could handle low frequency AC as well. I have now worked three weeks and I don’t get that extremely tired any more, but I am not back to full strength yet. This Friday was a tough one. Ron – I think I have to disagree with you, I don’t consider Märklin HO being a “toy” train. The third rail (as it was when I bought my first Märklin train) did not look nice, but (as you mentioned) it would run reliably. The Trainwreck Saloon is a very nice place indeed! You really don’t have to worry about the DUI laws if you go there, they have very good food! See picture below.
Lunch time at the Trainwreck Saloon.
Allan – Thanks for the info! It sounds like the line has a pretty good future. Maybe one day you will see the return of passenger service.
Eric
Good Morning All
Let's see now...
I'll have the Fisherman's Brunch please (2 Fish Cakes with runny poached on top with Baked beans and home Fries)
Been very busy these last two weeks but will be back on the Ocean Deep all being well come Wednesday.
Got a new book in, Number 7 in Ian Wilson's series of CN Steam in Southern Ontario. Excellent set of books well worth having for the photos alone.
http://www.canadianbranchline.com/
Anyway another busy day ahead of me
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
The weekend begins with the day called Saturday! Join us for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board. Some fresh pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n a mugga hot coffee <regular> or <unleaded>!
Cardinals have been OH-FISH-UL-LEE eliminated from post season play - RIP! <groan>
Friday - Sep 21st:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 11:27 AM: Not to worry Larsman - we've been through times like these many, many times ‘n we're still here! In large measure it's been guys just like YOU who have kept making way . . .
Would love to have you stop by here in St. Louis - always welcome, Mate! With enough "notice," we could even arrange for our Bar Chandler Pete to meet his "boss"!! That would be a <hoot> - NO, NO Artie, wasn't making reference to YOU! <geesh> Boris, give him a field mouse, will ya please Yeah, go ahead give ALL of the critters an extra helping of treats!
Email received ‘n responded to - thanx!
Sorry Mate! You're punishment HOLDS - banned from the Penthouse Suite ‘til October 1st. <grin>
Fine spate of Illinois Central covers - not seen here before at that!
Round, visit ‘n chat appreciated!
Dan (DL-UK) at 12:14 PM: Wide page phenom happens to not only me - Lars ‘n Pete have "reported' it as well. Anyway, really isn't worth the concern - just wanted you to know. URLs are definitely the culprit - especially the looooooooong ones. Best I can say at this point is to use ‘em judiciously. Meaning: short Posts - for when a Post becomes very lengthy (page wise) then it becomes an absolute "mess" to not only scroll up ‘n down, but side to side as well to read it all.
Pete ‘n I were discussing the demise of the "neighborhood bars" the other day. They really are disappearing rather fast ‘n in fact one has to seek ‘em out. With subdivision living, rather than neighborhoods along with suburban lifestyles away from core-city areas, the bars of today are "plastic" versions of what used to be. Fortunately, not so with the TrainWreck Saloon. But my guess is the handwriting has long been on the wall for that joint too. Chalk it all up to THAT word - CHANGE! As with the tides, CHANGE happens. Those who survive must adjust . . .
Pleased to know that you ARE getting the fotos from me ‘n the others who for whatever the reason weren't coming thru . . . makes all the difference, eh
Thanx for the visit!
Ron (DD1) at 2:11 PM: You can bet that this state is no "slacker" when it comes to watching those who drive from parking lots adjacent to taverns. Something to ALWAYS be mindful of . . . One simply MUST be responsible AND careful!!
The "story" behind the TrainWreck Saloon goes like this: It was originally named the Nine Mile House because it was located 9 miles from the city-county line. The tavern became somewhat of a landmark over the years because of its style, proximity to a rail line ‘n neighborhood location.
A leading modeler decided to put the building into kit form and is the one used for "Our" Place. It appears each day at the bottom of my morning Post and has been shown repeatedly for enlargement on these Pages and over on the Original Thread.
Today, the
Cindy my sweet, just a mugga Joe with a double jolt to start the day! Make it a "splash," as my "bookend buddy" BK used to say . . .
Bud Karr's e-mail certainly was a reminder that far too many times we take ‘things' ‘n people for granted. This thing called life is so fleeting, so temporary. My heart is heavy for our friend, in spite of the months that have passed since Lydia's departure.
I think we all knew the "deal," but it didn't become "official" ‘til he sent the word. Now we know. Best to you BK in all you do ‘n wherever you are to do it. CHEERS, mate! 5 Salute to my Cyber friend, BK!
Today I'm just going to dispense with my normal BS ‘n stuff . . . since it IS Encore Saturday, how about some "BK" submissions
Give the boys a round on me in memory of Lydia ‘n our friend, BK! Ring it Boris!! Yeah, yeah - treats for the crittAHS - ‘n the PPF is yours.
BK's first post at the bar from Sep 16, 2005 on page 110 over on the "old" site:
Greetings! I'm Bud Karr and this seems to be an interesting place for me to make my first visit on the forums ........ Quite a combination, talk of trains, levity and a comfortable atmosphere. Yes, I think this will do quite nicely for as long as I'm able to connect with those who may like to talk back. I'm not one for dispensing with the personal information, but let it suffice to say that I'm a train enthusiast in the sense that riding them is my preference to watching or modeling them. Haven't got the time for the former and insufficient space for the latter. Don't accumulate too many material things in what I do ....... It took me quite a bit of time to leaf through the pages and I see that a core of you is keeping this idea thriving. Good. You have many detractors on other forums - those who would like to do away with the type of chatter going on within these community type gatherings. Screw 'em, I say. Set me up with a JD, double on the rocks ......... Check back later ........ BK
and his 2nd post - same day, same page . . .
Ok, I'll have one of those sandwiches I read about somewhere on those pages between 1 and 110 ...... And a cold brewskie - do you have any bottled Moosehead Ale? Now - let me get this straight - if I say hello to the bartender and order a drink, I'm in good shape around here, right? Okay - Hello Bartender! Appreciate the welcome from Tom and Ted, I don't want to wear it out too soon. I'm enjoying the pictures of your train trips in Canada, Tom, and also the accountings of them. Worth the reading. Lots of good postings by the people who hang out in this place. I like what that guy coalminer has to say and a few others. I have travelled by train in Canada quite a bit and know the routes failry well. Don't particularly care for some of the attitudes I have come across, but then again, seems to be a common thread these days and times. Work for the railroads and an attitude adjustment is part of the package - especially with AMTRAK. Not all - but for some. Short fuse for me - I stay as far from those types as possible - fortunate for them. Canada travel to the maritime provinces has never been the downer that apparently one of your guys recently experienced. Then again, I think it depends on one's expectations. Trains are late and track isn't always in pristine shape. Happens. Mine is and has always to take in the flavor of it all - the ambiance - and then sit back to enjoy the ride. Just love those observation domes. The Superliner Sightseer Lounge cars are nice - but I'll take the domes everytime. One more brew and then I'm off ....... BK
Bud made hundreds of posts at our bar ‘n over on Cap'n Tom's other site . . . 349 total according to the "record." He'll be missed for sure. One must nevAH say neVAH, for one day, he just MAY return ‘n when he does - this brew is for YOU, BK!
Greetings Tom and fellow Classic Trains connoisseurs....
Oooh what lovely sunny Saturday we've handed.... May I please trouble you for an extra cold Guinness, top up with cigars for the gang and here's something for yourself....
Few $$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer...
Karl F. Nystrom
Karl F. Nystrom was in born Asba Bruk, Sweden. Following graduation in 1904 as a mechanical engineer from a Swedish mining school at Filipstad and brief study of hightensile steel in Germany, Nystrom came to Pittsburgh in 1905 and found mastering English to be difficult. At first, working for various firms at low wages, his fortune improved when he joined Pressed Steel Car Company as a draftsman. He Joined Pullman where in 1909 he was co-designer of the first steel sleeping car. His 1911 specifications for the first all-steel RPO car were still standard by Federal Law in 1938.
Next, he was with Southern Pacific, then American Car & Foundry, Acme Supply, Grand Trunk Railway and Canadian Pacific. By 1920 he was back with Grand Trunk as engineer of car construction. Nystrom came to CM&StP in 1922 as engineer of car design, and three years later wasappointed engineer of motive power and rolling stock, became master carbuilder in July 1927, and car department superintendent that same September.
In the fall of 1937, he was designated mechanical assistant to the chief operation officer. That position gave him supervision of the car department and of engineering, design and construction activities and coordination of all facilities of the mechanical department. Nystrom was an innovator who brought welded car construction to the forefront, played a leading role in designing the well-known bay window cabooses, and in perfecting steam jet air conditioning for passenger cars. His Passenger car wheel assemblies were considered by many to be the smoothest riding in the industry. He designed the dismantling program for old cars and locomotives et the Dubuque shops. He was best known for his Hiawatha cars.
Although a Methodist, he served for several years on the board of supervisors of Marquette University. In recognition of his distinctive work, he recieved an honorary PhD in mechanical engineering from that university on June 11, 1941. He was a consultant for the War Department Transportation Corps and a member of the War Production Board. In 1945 he was elected a Fellow in the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, and had been a member since 1921. Only about one percent of its members are elected to Fellowship. In January 1945 his title was changed to chief mechanical officer. He retired on January 31, 1949 and died suddenly on June 5, 1961.....
Some Milwaukee Road passenger cars...
Credit: Trainweb.org and Milwukee Road 1928-1985....
Cindy my sweet, time for cold one - make it a Piels in a frosty mug please! Boris, ring the bell - there's a round on the Manager coming up! Keep the change my deAH!
Don't know what it takes to get everyone on board with Encore Saturday! But the idea is to avoid NEW material on this day. Why Because we have so few stopping in on weekends. That's what Da Boss wants, that's what we ought to be paying attention to. It IS his bar after all, huh
Ok, some more in remembrance of our good friend Bud Karr ‘n the passing of his lady love, Lydia! Found these over at the "old site" too . . .
This is an Encore within an Encore!! from page 429 back on April 29, 2006!
Encore - Encore - Encore - Encore - Encore - Encore Good Day to you all and our Captain on this mild and cloudy day in paradise! Encore, Encore everywhere I look! Perhaps, then, I should join in with Part I of Captain Tom's offering in his "Railroads from Yesteryear" that Sir Rob began much earlier this morning . . . QUOTE: Now arriving on track #1 ..... Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Nine (in two parts) Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. The Coast Line/Seaboard Railways - ACL - SAL - SCL Part I of II Atlantic Coast Line Railroad Locale: United States Atlantic Coast Reporting marks: ACL Dates of operation: 1840 - July 1, 1967 Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge) Headquarters: Jacksonville, FL There is also an Atlantic Coast Line in Cornwall, England. The Atlantic Coast Line Railroad (AAR reporting mark ACL) was an American railroad that existed between 1898 and July 1, 1967, when it merged with the Seaboard Air Line Railroad, its long-time rival, to form the Seaboard Coast Line Railroad. The company was headquartered in Jacksonville, Florida (Wilmington, North Carolina before 1961). After several more mergers and consolidations, the former ACL is now part of CSX Transportation, also headquartered in Jacksonville. History 1914 map The Atlantic Coast Line Company was organized on May 29, 1889 as a holding company for a system of railroads from Richmond and Norfolk, Virginia south and southwest to Augusta, Georgia. North Carolina The Wilmington and Raleigh Railroad was chartered in 1835, opening in 1840 from Wilmington, North Carolina north to Weldon, where the Petersburg Railroad continued to Petersburg, Virginia. The name was changed in 1855 to the Wilmington and Weldon Railroad. The Wilmington and Manchester Railroad was chartered in 1846 and opened in 1853 from Wilmington west to Camden Crossing, South Carolina on the South Carolina Railroad's branch to Camden. After the American Civil War, the company was reorganized in 1870 as the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad, opening an extension west to Columbia in 1873 but never reaching Augusta, Georgia. In 1872 the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad leased the Wilmington and Weldon Railroad, forming a continuous line through Wilmington, which was advertised as the Atlantic Coast Line. That lease was cancelled in 1878 due to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta's bankruptcy; that company was sold in 1879 and reorganized in 1880 under the same name. Over the years, the Wilmington and Weldon bought many other lines. Most notable among those was the Wilson and Fayetteville Railroad, built as a cutoff from near Wilson to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta at Pee Dee, South Carolina. This was chartered in South Carolina as the Florence Railroad. South Carolina 1885 map, when it was a loose system of affiliated lines The Northeastern Railroad was chartered in 1851 and opened in 1856 from Charleston north to the Wilmington and Manchester Railroad at Florence. The Central Railroad, connecting this line at Lane northwest to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad at Sumter, was chartered in 1881 and opened in 1882. From opening it was leased by both railroads in connected to. The Atlantic Coast Line Railroad of South Carolina was formed on July 18, 1898 as a consolidation of the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad and Northeastern Railroad with several other lines: The Florence Railroad was chartered in 1882, continuing the Wilson and Fayetteville Railroad from the North Carolina state line south-southwest to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta at Pee Dee. This was part of a shorter route avoiding Wilmington, North Carolina. The Cheraw and Darlington Railroad was chartered in 1849 and opened in 1853, running from Florence north via Darlington to Cheraw. The Cheraw and Darlington acquired the Cheraw and Salisbury Railroad, an extension north to Wadesboro, North Carolina, in 1892. The Manchester and Augusta Railroad was chartered in 1875, and built a line from Sumter southwest to Denmark. On June 30, 1899, the ACL opened a continuation west-southwest to the Charleston and Western Carolina Railway at Robbins. The Central Railroad stayed separate, leased but not merged. Also involved in this was the Charleston, Sumter and Northern Railroad, a failed plan to build a main line from Charleston through Sumter into North Carolina. That company went bankrupt in 1892, and the bridge over the Santee River burned down. In 1895 the ACL bought and reorganized it as the Charleston and Northern Railroad to prevent it from being used by a competitor. The short Wilson and Summerton Railroad acquired a section south of Sumter, the Manchester and Augusta Railroad obtained the southernmost sect LoveDomes Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: northeast U.S. 1,225 posts "Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment! Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:10 AM Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!Back again with my final tribute for the day to BK (Bud Karr) in memory of his Lady - Lydia! For those who don't know, Lydia provided many of the "behind the scenes" efforts BK put forth at the bar. She was 'puter literate - he struggled along! <grin>Cindy a round for the boys 'n I'll have another Piels . . . This from page 319 on April 30, 2006 over on the "old site" . . . Good Afternoon Captain Tom and all looking in! Very enjoyable spate of photos from you, Pete & Nick for this Sunday Pix Posting Day! Kudos to all for your efforts! Here are a few from a railroad being "featured' on Tom's "other thread" today . . . AT&SF Doodlebug M.160 (photo credit: Ben Kroger) AT&SF F7A #49 (unknown photo credit) AT&SF FP45 #5942 (photo credit: Bob Finan) ]AT&SF GP60M # 90 (photo credit: Ted Ellis) Enjoy this fine day! BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada's high mountain country! Until the next time! Lars siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:41 AM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!Just a comment or two . . . Appreciate seeing Jan stop by on this Saturday morning.Good stuff to liven up the AM!!Also our Manager Lars 'n his tribute to our friend, BK is something special indeed! As with last week's foto spread of my 2006 Alaskan Rail Adventure, these Pix have not been displayed at the bar . . . (1) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage(2) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage(3) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage(4) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage(5) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star(6) Alaskan Moose from southbound Denali Star(7) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star(8) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star(9) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star(10) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star NOTE: Of significance in this spread of fotos is Mt. McKinley, the highest mountain in North America at 20320 feet (6194 m). Many rail travelers have been bitterly disappointed during their travels by not having the great visibility we had on our southbound journey. On the northbound trip, we were fortunate to see just the top of the peaks (shown on a previous Post), but to have had such clear visibility was truly a highlight for us. Mt. McKinley has two peaks (summits) - the north & south, with the latter being the higher of the two. Enjoy! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, September 22, 2007 2:06 PM ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!at "Our" Place!We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs! Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . September 23rd thru 29th: We Are Marshall (2006) Starring: Matthew McConaughey, Matthew Fox, Anthony Mackie, David Strathairn & Ian McShane - and - Crossfire Trail (2001) Starring: Tom Selleck, Virginia Madsen, Wilford Brimley, David O'Hara & Christian Kane. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Even As I.O.U. (1942). We Are Marshall (2006)PLOT SUMMARY: There seems to be no end to beating-the-odds football movies these days, and if they all peak with a breathless moment of anticipation during a clutch play, then We Are Marshall, based on a true story, has plenty of (mostly good) company. Matthew McConaughey plays Jack Lengyel, who becomes head coach--more or less by default--of Marshall University's rebuilding varsity football team in Huntington, W. Va., after the school's 37-member team and coaches (and a number of others) die in a plane crash in the Appalachian Mountains on Nov. 14, 1970. Facing an indifferent college president (David Strathairn) ready to shut the football program down, a morose assistant coach (Matthew Fox), and a charged-up player (Anthony Mackie) who missed the doomed flight due to an injury, Lengyel is faced with fielding a new team and putting the players through their paces. There are the usual, perhaps too-familiar, training montages and field action, but screenwriter Jamie Linden and director McG (Charlie's Angels) also draw some very good performances from the likes of Kate Mara and Ian McShane, contributing to an emotional tapestry conveying a powerful sense of how such a sizable loss affects a small community. --Tom Keogh <from: amazon.com> Crossfire Trail (2001)PLOT SUMMARY: There are unmistakable pleasures to an old-fashioned Western, and Crossfire Trail has 'em. Tom Selleck has a lean, weathered face that sits nicely atop a horse and beneath a broad-brimmed hat; he plays a canny cowboy who's come to make good on a promise to a dying man and ends up caught between a beautiful woman (Virginia Madsen) and a wicked man in black--a couple of them, actually. Crossfire Trail has just about every element you could ask for (a Sioux war party, a cruel hired gun, a shootout in the street, even a cattle stampede), but it spins them out with such clean efficiency that you can't help but enjoy it. Directed skillfully and with heart, Crossfire Trail will satisfy any Western fan. Based on the novel by Louis L'Amour; also featuring Wilford Brimley and Mark Harmon. --Bret Fetzer <from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - Even As I.O.U. (1942)PLOT SUMMARY: Larry, Moe and Curly find an evicted woman and her daughter in financial trouble. They decide to helpher by betting the child's piggy bank on the horses. Two con men scam the boys out of the money when they buy a rundown horse named Seabiscuit. To boost his energy, Curly tries to blow a vitamin into the horse's mouth, only to have it blown into his own mouth. He begins to act like a horse and Moe and Larry get him to a hospital where he bears a talking colt. <from: threestooges.net> < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo « First«73747576777879»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Encore - Encore - Encore - Encore - Encore - Encore Good Day to you all and our Captain on this mild and cloudy day in paradise! Encore, Encore everywhere I look! Perhaps, then, I should join in with Part I of Captain Tom's offering in his "Railroads from Yesteryear" that Sir Rob began much earlier this morning . . .
QUOTE: Now arriving on track #1 ..... Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Nine (in two parts) Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. The Coast Line/Seaboard Railways - ACL - SAL - SCL
Part I of II Atlantic Coast Line Railroad
Locale: United States Atlantic Coast Reporting marks: ACL Dates of operation: 1840 - July 1, 1967 Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge) Headquarters: Jacksonville, FL There is also an Atlantic Coast Line in Cornwall, England. The Atlantic Coast Line Railroad (AAR reporting mark ACL) was an American railroad that existed between 1898 and July 1, 1967, when it merged with the Seaboard Air Line Railroad, its long-time rival, to form the Seaboard Coast Line Railroad. The company was headquartered in Jacksonville, Florida (Wilmington, North Carolina before 1961). After several more mergers and consolidations, the former ACL is now part of CSX Transportation, also headquartered in Jacksonville. History
1914 map The Atlantic Coast Line Company was organized on May 29, 1889 as a holding company for a system of railroads from Richmond and Norfolk, Virginia south and southwest to Augusta, Georgia. North Carolina The Wilmington and Raleigh Railroad was chartered in 1835, opening in 1840 from Wilmington, North Carolina north to Weldon, where the Petersburg Railroad continued to Petersburg, Virginia. The name was changed in 1855 to the Wilmington and Weldon Railroad. The Wilmington and Manchester Railroad was chartered in 1846 and opened in 1853 from Wilmington west to Camden Crossing, South Carolina on the South Carolina Railroad's branch to Camden. After the American Civil War, the company was reorganized in 1870 as the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad, opening an extension west to Columbia in 1873 but never reaching Augusta, Georgia. In 1872 the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad leased the Wilmington and Weldon Railroad, forming a continuous line through Wilmington, which was advertised as the Atlantic Coast Line. That lease was cancelled in 1878 due to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta's bankruptcy; that company was sold in 1879 and reorganized in 1880 under the same name. Over the years, the Wilmington and Weldon bought many other lines. Most notable among those was the Wilson and Fayetteville Railroad, built as a cutoff from near Wilson to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta at Pee Dee, South Carolina. This was chartered in South Carolina as the Florence Railroad. South Carolina
1885 map, when it was a loose system of affiliated lines The Northeastern Railroad was chartered in 1851 and opened in 1856 from Charleston north to the Wilmington and Manchester Railroad at Florence. The Central Railroad, connecting this line at Lane northwest to the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad at Sumter, was chartered in 1881 and opened in 1882. From opening it was leased by both railroads in connected to. The Atlantic Coast Line Railroad of South Carolina was formed on July 18, 1898 as a consolidation of the Wilmington, Columbia and Augusta Railroad and Northeastern Railroad with several other lines:
Back again with my final tribute for the day to BK (Bud Karr) in memory of his Lady - Lydia! For those who don't know, Lydia provided many of the "behind the scenes" efforts BK put forth at the bar. She was 'puter literate - he struggled along! <grin>
Cindy a round for the boys 'n I'll have another Piels . . .
This from page 319 on April 30, 2006 over on the "old site" . . .
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and all looking in! Very enjoyable spate of photos from you, Pete & Nick for this Sunday Pix Posting Day! Kudos to all for your efforts! Here are a few from a railroad being "featured' on Tom's "other thread" today . . . AT&SF Doodlebug M.160 (photo credit: Ben Kroger) AT&SF F7A #49 (unknown photo credit) AT&SF FP45 #5942 (photo credit: Bob Finan) ]AT&SF GP60M # 90 (photo credit: Ted Ellis) Enjoy this fine day! BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada's high mountain country!
Just a comment or two . . . Appreciate seeing Jan stop by on this Saturday morning.
Good stuff to liven up the AM!!
Also our Manager Lars 'n his tribute to our friend, BK is something special indeed!
As with last week's foto spread of my 2006 Alaskan Rail Adventure, these Pix have not been displayed at the bar . . .
(1) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage
(2) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage
(3) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage
(4) ARR Denali Star - southbound en route Anchorage
(5) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star
(6) Alaskan Moose from southbound Denali Star
(7) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star
(8) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star
(9) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star
(10) Mt. McKinley from southbound Denali Star
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!
. . . September 23rd thru 29th: We Are Marshall (2006) Starring: Matthew McConaughey, Matthew Fox, Anthony Mackie, David Strathairn & Ian McShane - and - Crossfire Trail (2001) Starring: Tom Selleck, Virginia Madsen, Wilford Brimley, David O'Hara & Christian Kane. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Even As I.O.U. (1942).
We Are Marshall (2006)
PLOT SUMMARY: There seems to be no end to beating-the-odds football movies these days, and if they all peak with a breathless moment of anticipation during a clutch play, then We Are Marshall, based on a true story, has plenty of (mostly good) company. Matthew McConaughey plays Jack Lengyel, who becomes head coach--more or less by default--of Marshall University's rebuilding varsity football team in Huntington, W. Va., after the school's 37-member team and coaches (and a number of others) die in a plane crash in the Appalachian Mountains on Nov. 14, 1970. Facing an indifferent college president (David Strathairn) ready to shut the football program down, a morose assistant coach (Matthew Fox), and a charged-up player (Anthony Mackie) who missed the doomed flight due to an injury, Lengyel is faced with fielding a new team and putting the players through their paces. There are the usual, perhaps too-familiar, training montages and field action, but screenwriter Jamie Linden and director McG (Charlie's Angels) also draw some very good performances from the likes of Kate Mara and Ian McShane, contributing to an emotional tapestry conveying a powerful sense of how such a sizable loss affects a small community. --Tom Keogh
There seems to be no end to beating-the-odds football movies these days, and if they all peak with a breathless moment of anticipation during a clutch play, then We Are Marshall, based on a true story, has plenty of (mostly good) company. Matthew McConaughey plays Jack Lengyel, who becomes head coach--more or less by default--of Marshall University's rebuilding varsity football team in Huntington, W. Va., after the school's 37-member team and coaches (and a number of others) die in a plane crash in the Appalachian Mountains on Nov. 14, 1970. Facing an indifferent college president (David Strathairn) ready to shut the football program down, a morose assistant coach (Matthew Fox), and a charged-up player (Anthony Mackie) who missed the doomed flight due to an injury, Lengyel is faced with fielding a new team and putting the players through their paces. There are the usual, perhaps too-familiar, training montages and field action, but screenwriter Jamie Linden and director McG (Charlie's Angels) also draw some very good performances from the likes of Kate Mara and Ian McShane, contributing to an emotional tapestry conveying a powerful sense of how such a sizable loss affects a small community. --Tom Keogh
<from: amazon.com>
Crossfire Trail (2001)
PLOT SUMMARY: There are unmistakable pleasures to an old-fashioned Western, and Crossfire Trail has 'em. Tom Selleck has a lean, weathered face that sits nicely atop a horse and beneath a broad-brimmed hat; he plays a canny cowboy who's come to make good on a promise to a dying man and ends up caught between a beautiful woman (Virginia Madsen) and a wicked man in black--a couple of them, actually. Crossfire Trail has just about every element you could ask for (a Sioux war party, a cruel hired gun, a shootout in the street, even a cattle stampede), but it spins them out with such clean efficiency that you can't help but enjoy it. Directed skillfully and with heart, Crossfire Trail will satisfy any Western fan. Based on the novel by Louis L'Amour; also featuring Wilford Brimley and Mark Harmon. --Bret Fetzer
There are unmistakable pleasures to an old-fashioned Western, and Crossfire Trail has 'em. Tom Selleck has a lean, weathered face that sits nicely atop a horse and beneath a broad-brimmed hat; he plays a canny cowboy who's come to make good on a promise to a dying man and ends up caught between a beautiful woman (Virginia Madsen) and a wicked man in black--a couple of them, actually. Crossfire Trail has just about every element you could ask for (a Sioux war party, a cruel hired gun, a shootout in the street, even a cattle stampede), but it spins them out with such clean efficiency that you can't help but enjoy it. Directed skillfully and with heart, Crossfire Trail will satisfy any Western fan. Based on the novel by Louis L'Amour; also featuring Wilford Brimley and Mark Harmon. --Bret Fetzer
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Even As I.O.U. (1942)
PLOT SUMMARY: Larry, Moe and Curly find an evicted woman and her daughter in financial trouble. They decide to helpher by betting the child's piggy bank on the horses. Two con men scam the boys out of the money when they buy a rundown horse named Seabiscuit. To boost his energy, Curly tries to blow a vitamin into the horse's mouth, only to have it blown into his own mouth. He begins to act like a horse and Moe and Larry get him to a hospital where he bears a talking colt.
Larry, Moe and Curly find an evicted woman and her daughter in financial trouble. They decide to helpher by betting the child's piggy bank on the horses. Two con men scam the boys out of the money when they buy a rundown horse named Seabiscuit. To boost his energy, Curly tries to blow a vitamin into the horse's mouth, only to have it blown into his own mouth. He begins to act like a horse and Moe and Larry get him to a hospital where he bears a talking colt.
<from: threestooges.net>
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