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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:41 AM

<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>

Wednesday's Witticism

It's better to know the country than to be the best cowboy.

Awk the Parrot

G'day Gents!

Wednesday in mid-continent can mean only one thing  we're at the halfway mark to week's end! Yeah!! [yeah] C'mon boyz, fill up the coffee mugs - check out the pastries ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while you're at it! Thumbs Up [tup]

On a different note, here's a link some may find of interest on the planned rebuild of VIA Rail's F40 locos:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/12/11/qc-vialocomotive1211.html

 

 

 

Tex the Armadillo

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Tuesday - Dec 11th:

Lars (LoveDomes) at10:26 AM: Really liked those Southern diesels! <sweet> Great looking livery ‘n something not seen for decades. I had the privilege of traveling by rail from Mobile, Alabama to New York City back in 1950 <I think> when visiting with my "merchie" father down in Mobile. He was shipping out for the Inchon landing in Korea - but that's another story. So, my mother ‘n I took the train home, after having flown down by Capitol Airways <anyone out there remember them??> The Southern train was super-special ‘n while I haven't a clue regarding the "name" of it, I do know it was a gleaming streamliner, pulled by diesels looking pretty much like the ones you depicted. Great experience ‘n greater memories! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

How uncharacteristically forgiving of our Manager to be so gracious as to permit Eric ‘n Pete to accompany you for the round-trip aboard the Can Am Railway Trans Mentor Limited! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I'd really be careful about hidden cameras, recording devices, etc. . . .  Those two guys bear watching! <uh oh> Shock [:O]

Another fine spate of book covers for the gang . . . don't know how you do it, but you keep finding ‘em . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for the visit, chat, covers ‘n round! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Frostbite the Penguin

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 11:59 AM: Forum's Gremlins gotcha, eh Question [?] At least they aren't selective! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Be happy you're not on the "side" of the ice storm that hit this part of the country . . . really <grim> for lotsafolks . . . but of course, you know all about this kinda weather living in "them thar hills of West Virginy! <grin>

REALLY enjoyed your "Pullmans to Canada" offering! A Five-Thumbs Up [tup] Salute to CM3 Shane for yet another example of superb railroad nostalgia!

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Editorial Comment: It's one thing to simply copy ‘n paste other peoples photos (OPP) as many of us have done, are doing ‘n will do. It's quite another thing to be ORIGINAL with the Posts. I seriously doubt that CM3 Shane has any rival when it comes to ORIGINALITY. Well done, Mate! A mugga Joe with a jolt - splash - ‘n jigger to go! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] You Sir, are an "Our" Place treasure, ‘n we are very fortunate that you've taken a liking to us! Yeah!! [yeah]

Continued thanx for the round ‘n quarters for Herr Wurlitzer <juke box>! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 12:55 PM: Home from the sea is the sailorman . . . appreciate your taking the time to clue us in, ‘n of course place an order! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Now if we could only figure out a way to get our Resident Canadian Maritime Mariner to respond to the comments made in his direction! <uh oh>

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by EricX2000 on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:47 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, just a coffee and a Cheese Danish, please! Haven't had a Danish for a long time.

A cold day with rain. I think the high was 57°, but that must have been indoors.

Rob –  We’ll see how it works out, Manager Lars has kind of changed his mind and is offering Pete and me positions to make his trip a good one! Wink [;)]

That kind of inspection cars were very common in Sweden too. They usually had a 4-cyl. Volvo engine. I would certainly love to have one myself, if I could use it.Smile [:)]

Thanks for the ALCO info!Thumbs Up [tup] Interesting to see that MLW built locomotives with AC traction. Do you know what year that was? Nice picture of those ALCO's!

Sven –  Good to see you back so soon!Thumbs Up [tup] You better be nice to Ruth (no, not that nice). Otherwise Manager Lars might not be, hmmpf, too happy! Wink [;)]

Thanks for sharing your memories from New Orleans!Thumbs Up [tup] If you have more memories we would like to hear them as well! SP #4449 is a very good looking locomotive!

Spell check? Not as far as I know.

Mike –  That will be the day, me singing in a barbershop quartet!?!Big Smile [:D]

I have an enlarged photo from Pearl Harbor taken from a Japanese bomber 12/7/41. It shows Ford Island and some Japanese planes at low altitude over it.

Interesting ads for vacuum tubes!Thumbs Up [tup] The Speed Tube! 7 2/5 miles in 40 to 50 millionths of a second! Fast!Smile [:)]

Tom –  Good for you to sleep in whenever you have a chance!Yeah!! [yeah] Cold weather in St. Louis? Same here, we had rain most of the day and the temp was in the low 50’s (they try to convince me it was 57°, but I say No way. I hate it.Grumpy [|(] Where is the heat when you need it?

Thanks for reposting trolleyboy Rob’s pictures from 2005!Thumbs Up [tup] I have not seen them before!

Lars –  I met “my” surgeon today. He seems to be a nice guy and my surgery will be sometime early January. Which is fine with me. Just have to be careful so I don’t eat something I shouldn’t.Smile [:)]

Thank you for hiring Pete and me for your trip! We certainly will provide best service available for you and Ru... hmmm, your traveling companion!!Whistling [:-^] Who cares about the Penthouse Suite? I mean, of course you do, but Pete and I don’t have any interest whatsoever in that old suite.Whistling [:-^]

More books on traction and interurbans!Thumbs Up [tup] I pick the two first ones, Interurban Electric Locomotives! Below is one of Pacific Electric's electrics.



CM3 –  Interesting info on Boston and Maine Pullmans to Canada!Thumbs Up [tup] If I understand this correct this article does not cover all trains with sleepers in 1950?Question [?] In your comment to Sven you mentioned that the transcon sleeper used to run out of Boston, generally a Southern 10/6 car. Was there ever a sleeper between Boston and Washington D.C.?Question [?]

Fergie –  Didn’t you have the glass of wine to compensate for the movements of your rolling and heaving house?Mischief [:-,] Hope you are allowed to stay ashore now until next year.Smile [:)]

Pete –  I will start on Red for Danger this weekend! I have read a few pages already and looked at the photos. Interesting topic!Smile [:)]

Yes, we finally got the jobs!Yeah!! [yeah] I am sure Manager Lars won’t regret his decision.Wink [;)] But don’t mention any polishing jobs again!

My photo does not show the Empire Builder, it shows the front end of the X2000 consist on our way to Seattle in 1993. We had two F40’s, a baggage car, a sleeper and the X2000.

I am glad to see that you like the Green Bay Packers!Yeah!! [yeah] That is my favorite team! In other words, I am also a cheese head!

Allan –  I have not seen that Salamander book “Railroads”. But I have the other one, "Trains of the World". There are some minor faults in that book. It says that the tilting system does not operate below 28 mph, it actually stops working at 43.5 mph. They also shifted the numbers about the Power rating, it should be 4,400 hp (3,260 kW) for each power car. No big deal though.

 

A round for the house! 

 

Eric




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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:39 PM

Oh well Leon another Nelson's blood please as he coughs and hacks over towards his stool. The sugical mask is a nice touch Boris , I'm amazed you found one that would fit your nose.Here's a couple of those warbird shots for you Allan , oh and anyone else who is interestedWink [;)]

Three shots from the Niagara Falls airshow last summer. The Spitfire Hurricane and the ME109 are all owned privatly by the gentlemen that owns the local airfield. all are flyable and beautifully restored. Merlin's in both the Spit and the Hurricane, the 109 is the only flyable 109 which still has it's Daimler Benz in it. Most of the restored 109's out there wre retrofitted with RR Merlins.

The next few shots are bits of the Canadian Warplane Herritages operable fleet.

B-25 Mitchell in RCAF 424 sqd markings D-day

RCN Grummen Tracker from H.M.C.S. Bonaventure. This plane has now been restored flyable.

424 Tiger Sqd "Tiger Meat"CF104 Starfighter from RCAF tactical air command. This is a 1970's William tell Competition paint job not the sqd's normal paint scheme.

And finally VRA one of Two fully operable and flyable Avro Lancaster Bombers left in the world. It's in RCAF 419 Moose Sqd markings and carries the VC emblem for PO Andrew MYnarski on it.

enjoy  Rob  * all the pictures will enlarge when you click on them.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:21 PM

Well good evening Leon. A good stiff snifter of brandy I think wow the cold's really satrting to PO meGrumpy [|(] even the cats are staying away from me.

Tom-i'm not even going to go there an email for a gift thank-you...<good gawd> who brought these people up Thumbs Down [tdn]certainly not the brave new world the web designers envisioned eh Question [?]

 Your weather today sounds just about like what ares was ( is ) hovering up around 2 or 3 C so just above freezing and it's been pissing rain all day long without a let up,fog mist you name it. For a bit I thought I was back in Halifax.Big Smile [:D]

I did indeed see that the other thread was just about at the 2400 mark and low and behold Lars hit it. Two fer Two this week, I think he should try out for the Mets.

Thanks for reposting those memories on film today ( I don't have to repost those ones for a while now )The PA's are beauts, I've never been a huge E unit fan PA's yes but E's run a bit farther down on my paseneger diesel list. Likely because they are unfamiliar to me, CP had 3 CN none. Now get me into an FP 9 or  7 and I'm all smiles, I remember them well mostly in VIA or Go livery however.

Mike-Nice to see you swing by again, and with a couple o url's in tow as well, alls right in the ole ale house again <grin>Your right that was a repost , still I figured what the heck it's all relelvent info,one can never get too much Alco info anyway I think.

Sven-You indeed have caught on well , and a wonderfull story of calssic rail riding to boot  that's just wonderfull Thumbs Up [tup]I promise not to post any Ole or Sven jokes , I can't so promise not mentioning the Swedish Bikini team thoughMischief [:-,]

Lars-Yup B-ball just not my thing , I figured you guys got that from my rant yesterdayWhistling [:-^] Mind you if the Raps are in thebplayoff hunt I suppose it's the right thing to support the lads,I'm just not going to spend a whole lot o cash or time doing it. Another traction lover approved set of titles from the bookmobile today Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie-Dry land again eh Question [?] well hopefully you will be home for the holiday's or is it Christmas with the Polar bears and seals again Question [?]

Pete-Well I'm glad to hear that your guys are over the worst of the weather.We have only recieved the rain and boy have we recieved something like a half to three quarters of an inch of it, at least it's stayed liquid , and the snow and salt tfrom last weeks dusting has washed away as well.It is nice that Alco/MLW did try to have some method behind the numbering system. GE has for the most part as well. I imagine that with the horsepower ratings  and axle numbers in the equation it would make a dispatcher's life a bit easier, in as much as he or she would know what kind of power the trains they were guiding over the railway were composed of.

 I imagine that the last days of steam on teh BR were similar to CN and CPs ,pride went away the last couple of years up here as well.You see pictures from 1959-60 with staem engines all grimy and hard water stained, when less than ten years before they would have been wiped down to a sheen by the crews. In fact both CN and CP employed young boys and teens as engine wipers who's job were as the title would have seemed. They would wash down and shine the locomotives up to a see yourself sheen in between runs.

Allan-Yes the PA's really did lend themselves to some wonderfull paint jobs the lines oif the engine begged for an artistic touch. Have you seen pictrures of teh Delaware and Hudson's blue on Silver Warbonnet which they used on their NY to Montreal trains in the late 60's and 70's Question [?],I have one photo of it which I will put up right now,keep your eyes peeled for some of the plane shots as well. Thumbs Up [tup]

Some Alco PA and C628 action !

enjoy  Rob

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Posted by Gunneral on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:24 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, a round of the usual Tui`s for all the crew please!Yeah!! [yeah]

Sven. Welcome aboard mate, nice to meet you, sound` s as if you will have a lot in common with Eric and Jan Olav and also Lars, as well as all us other Classic Trains enthusiasts.Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Rob. Am looking forward to those plane pics you have, enjoyed your write up on the Classic diesels #38, the PA`s were nice looking loco`s, especially in the ATSF Warbonnet colours.Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. Good to see your pain us under control. That picture of the X2000 is in the Salamander book "Railroads" " The 500 series" by Steve Barry, their are also another couple of X2000 pics in another Salamander book called "Trains of the World" by Brian Hollingsworth, they are nice books full of great colour pics.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. Nice info and pics of my favourite A4`s, and a nice link to that Flying Scotsman loco, wish I could have been on that A4 trip of yours in the 80`s, jealousy will get me nowhere!Sigh [sigh] Nice pic by Alan of the Union of South Africa, have a pic of it running on the NYMR, a Deltic also features in the article.Sigh [sigh] I wonder if Dan is going on the A4 anniversary next year as well? I, like you, hope that National Express makes a better job of running the ECML than GNER did!  Hope that Ice storm is`nt affecting you too much, saw the latest about it on BBC world this morning, hope you don`t have any power outages, stay safe!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars. Must have confused you with that writers name, it was actually Ernest Hemingway I meant, Somerset Maugham was one of his writer friends!Confused [%-)] Nice crop of inter-urban trolley covers from the Larsman Mobile as well as the selection of the Arkansas Short Line one`s.Wow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Nice informative write up about the B&M Pullman cars in Canada, thanks for that.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike. That was an evocative Pearl Harbour tribute with the pic links that you posted, and a nice piece of history about the radio tubes as well, reminded me of my first Hi-Fi lash up in the 50`s, a Phillips 20 watt triode tube amp, Tannoy speaker and a Garrard turntable, and BIG BAND 78rpm records, ah memories!Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie. Nice to see you again.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. I totally agree with all you wrote about our fellow man and human inter-reaction and relationships, it`s great to be able to relate to people, of course those who WANT to as you said.Bow [bow] Unfortunately my other half will NOT let me re-mortgage the house at all!Banged Head [banghead] Enjoyed your Patrons Pix #3 highlighting Rob`s post and pics from 2005. Hope you are`nt being affected by that Ice storm thats in the main news at the moment, looks as if it`s safer to stay home and off the highways` looking at some of the "pile up`s" on the tube today, stay safe!Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya,  Allan

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:22 PM

Hi Tom and all.

I Believe Fergie is getting the ale todayThumbs Up [tup], so a Winter Ale please RUTH, which I was hoping to have with Tom in Train Wreck saloon todayYeah!! [yeah].

ERIC Hope you enjoy the Red for Danger bookThumbs Up [tup]. We got through last night with just a short power outage although a lot of folks near here were still without power this morningSad [:(] but the power crews are working very hard to be people back on line.Bow [bow]

I see Manager Lars has had a change of heart and we are to allowed aboard the Trans Mentor Limited,Thumbs Up [tup] there must be a shortage of waitersYeah!! [yeah]. I must admit it is a lot better than I expected, I was expecting a big box of rags and  being told not to stop polishing until Lars could see his reflection in the side of the cars and locomotive.Shock [:O]Big Smile [:D]

Is the train in your photo at Minot the Empire Builder do you know Question [?]

ROB Hope you manage to escape the ice storm in your areaYeah!! [yeah], I think we were very lucky last night as it rained but the temperature stayed just above freezing.Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes the maroon and cream livery does suit those OSR locomotivesApprove [^], I agree a clean locomotive makes a difference to the general public as well as the staff of the railway. I remember reading some drivers in the old days carried a cloth and when they were allocated there own engine when they stopped they would give the engine a polish a lot lot different to the last years of steam on BRSad [:(].

Many thanks for the Classic Diesels on the ALCO/MLWs.Thumbs Up [tup] It was good that Alco had the wheel arrangement and the horsepower of their diesels in the designation. As you say the PA series of passenger units were great looking locomotives.Approve [^]

SVEN Real glad you are feeling at homeThumbs Up [tup] That is great you were able to see the SP # 4449 on the freedom train in New Orleans. Before I moved here I was unlucky with seeing steam locomotives in the USA. A couple of times, when my now bride lived in Kansas City, I missed a steam loco visiting Union Station there by once by a week and once by a day.Sigh [sigh]

Watch your fingers when giving AWK a bit of your donut.Shock [:O]Smile [:)]

MIKE Many thanks for the two interesting adverts for radio tubesThumbs Up [tup]. It was good to see Stephenson's Rocket in one of themYeah!! [yeah].

LARS Those E8s look great in the Southern liveryApprove [^]; I wonder why that shade of green looks so good on locomotives.Question [?]

We were very lucky last night it started raining in the evening and you could still here a few branches coming downShock [:O]. About 11pm I talked with a neighbor and he said the temperature was at 32 F, I think if it had gone down overnight we would have been real trouble as the trees around here are about under the most stress with the weight of the ice on themThumbs Down [tdn]. It has rained most of the morning as well but the temperature is high enough that the ice is melting.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the Interurban and traction covers from The Larsman MobileApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I think those interurban electric locomotives have a real character about themYeah!! [yeah]. It was good to see a book about the Kansas City interurban; I think they are still arguing about a new light rail scheme for KC.Sad [:(]

That is a good link to the books and videos provided by TomThumbs Up [tup]. I will try to give you good service on the Limited after our reprieve.Whistling [:-^]

CM3 Glad you are on the warm side of the ice eventThumbs Up [tup] Thanks for the kind words on the photos, the next set I am hoping to put up of Alan's is of some industrial tank engines, a lot of which worked for the National Coal Board in Britain.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the info on Jan's photosThumbs Up [tup] I would love to hear some of stories from almost 90 years ago.Yeah!! [yeah]

Enjoyed the B&M Pullmans to Canada,Thumbs Up [tup] what a shame it does not run todaySigh [sigh]. There would be a lot of the Canadian part of the journey to Halifax in daylight in the spring months. Approve [^]Thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup]

It will be interesting to see the answer to your question

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:09 PM

G'day Gents!

Somewhat of a crazy day here in mid-continent USA - began with fog 'n drizzle - then the skies lightened up - temps rose 'n actually got an hour's worth of outside work done. Now it's back to <gloom> 'n wet . . . <ugh>

I see we've had a bit of activity (which I'll address in my AM summary) - good to see Lars - Fergie 'n CM3 Shane stop by! Thumbs Up [tup]

Here's a little something for the PM . . .

Now Arriving on Track #1

Patron's Pix - Number Three

Explanation: This series features fotos from the guys who have entertained us over years on the Original Thread and here at the Reborn "Our" Place . . . As long as these fotos "live" in the Ether, why not have ‘em redone right here Question [?] Thumbs Up [tup]

Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown.

The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.

Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 05 Jun 2005, Page 22 of the Original Thread:

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Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 06 Jun 2005, Page 22 of the Original Thread:

#2

Here's a shot of the "G" cars arriving at the museum in the late 1980's i think it was 88 or 1989 .

#3

Two summers ago 2003 TTC celebrated their 80th birthday and we shipped 327 back to Toronto to take part in the parade of streetcars. Toronto City council had to repeal for a Day the old 1915 bylaw to allow it to run it's one and only revenue trip on the Queen Street line. Here's the shot from that day.

#4 & #5

Photo of the day lets see. Two I think before and during restoration shots of TTC sweeper S-37.This car came to TTC VIA NYC and Boston

Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 07 Jun 2005, Page 22 of the Original Thread:

#6

some work equipment for every one.The first one is one of our oldest functional cars W-4 this was built in the Toronto Railway companies shops one of ten work flatcars. This little baby is 101 this year. due to cast iron wheels we don't give it much running time.

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:55 PM

Capt'n Tom... And Sundry!

Large double double and easy o the nog

We finally made landfall! So drink up I'm running a tab for the remainder of the day as long as one of you can get me to my anchorage tonight safely. Ir was nice to get home last night and in one piece though the house was rolling and heaving a bit even before I had a glass of wine.

Sven welcome to Tom's house of libation and please make sure your up on the rules. Believe the if the rules are broken you'll hear about it in no short order.

Anyway must run

Later All

Fergie

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:59 AM

Good Morning Afternoon and all Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Gas is at $2.99 this a.m. as I filled up the FFO -Fast Flying Olds - on the way to work.  We are on the warm side of the so-called "ice event" with temps supposed to push into the 70's today.  Yikes!  BTW this was going to be posted at the regular time for me, but the forum would not let me log in.  So here we are.

Well, let's see what we have today.  Anyone who got skipped or glossed over, my apologies in advance.

Pete visited with a good tale about the RAF and the radar.  Also some fine steam pictures.  The 0-4-4-0T is a bit different.  Also appreciated the shot of the Union of So Africa.

Lars - Wins the contest.  I am a Giants fan also and they are doing just enough to keep going.  The scary thing is that we never know which Eli is going to show up, do we?  Crossing the palm indeed, IOW in honor of the Season you want to hear "Silent Night" rather than "Jingle Bells" because folding money is a lot quieter than coins.  Excellent selection of traction books and a somewhat different P Company item on the bookmobile.

BTW, enlarge the picture of PRR 4935 which was taken at Ivy City.  Look sharp and you'll see the side of a Southern E8 in the background.

PCBs as mentioned in the article you sent along is indeed nasty stuff.  We had to deal with some awhile back.  Careful does it with that.

Eric stopped by with comments.  Vacuum tubes need to go in the Forgotten technologies and Skills building which seems to be growing.  Glad the book got to you.

Jan sent some interesting pictures.  The "Oriental Limited" was the predecessor to the "Empire Builder."  Although Luicius' writing gets a bit over the top sometimes, the "Oriental" was quite something - one of the few trains, in fact, to serve afternoon tea.  The "Yankee Clipper," another train in your photo set, did the same thing.  

The Fall River Boat train was, IIRC, one of the longest running name trains in the country - almost 100 years.  My dad has lots of stories about the Fall River Line as he remembers seeing the steamers when they stopped at Newport.  It's scary because what he remembers as to dates, times, circumstances, always (and I mean always) checks out.  When we go down to Galilee (R.I., Boris) he starts telling stories and inevitably gets a crowd to gather because he recalls what it was like down there almost 90 yrs ago. 

Rob sent along some more ALCO/MLW material - thank you.

Sven - welcome.  The transcon sleeper used to run out of Boston.  It was generally a Southern 10/6 car.  I made several trips on it when it was around.  Now you can't even get a sleeper out of Boston to anywhere - unhand me Boris, you mad beast - I'm not going to go into my sleeper rant today.

Mike sent ads - the Scriptorium site is one of my favorites - you can spend days poking around there. 

Fergie stoppd by with comments.  Re the C&O T1 - a question for the steam folks out there.  Which railroad borrowed that design to build their own, and what classification did they carry on that railroad?  This is an easy one, but we'll see what happens.

Last (but by no means least) OSP is really after the high speed rail material.  Good stuff, sir.  Also like your Christmas movie selection at the Theatuh.

In line with my "You can't get there from here" comment a bit earlier, let's turn our attention to North Station in 1950.  Our friends to the north should enjoy this.

Boston and Maine Pullmans to Canada

In 1950, every night except Saturday, B&M train 23, the "Gull," departed North Station for down east and Atlantic Canada points.  Five Pullmans awaited passengers an hour before departure.  These included 12 section/drawing room cars from Boston to Bangor and Boston to Calais.  Service between Boston and Van Buren, Boston and Halifax, and Boston and St. John was covered by a trio of 10 section/drawing room/2 compartment cars.  Coaches operated between Boston and St. John.

The "Gull" departed Boston at 9:30 p.m. and arrived in Portland at 11:50 p.m. where it was handed off to the Maine Central who carried it to Bangor.  Train 23 left Portland at 12:10 a.m. and arrived in Bangor at 3:40 a.m. where the Boston-Bangor Pullman was set out.

The Boston-Calais sleeper was switched out at Bangor and handed off to MEC Train 123 which departed Bangor at 5:00 a.m. with a 10:00 a.m. arrival at Calais.

The Boston-Van Buren sleeper was handed off to Bangor and Aroostook Train 1, the "Potatoland Special," which left Bangor at 4:25 a.m. with coaches and a buffet car for a 12:10 p.m. arrival at Vanceboro. 

The balance of MEC 123 left Bangor at 4:35 a.m. and arrived at Vanceboro at 7:45 a.m. where the sleepers were passed on to CP Train 114.  This train departed at 915 a.m. and reached St. John at 12:20 p.m.

The Halifax sleeper, switched to CN Train 14 at St. John departed at 12:30 p.m.  It was then handed off at Moncton to CN4, "The Scotia," which left at 3:35 p.m. for a 10:30 p.m. arrival in Halifax.

Boston to Montreal passengers had a choice of routes, both of which originated on B&M 325, the combined "Red wing," and "New Englander."  325 left North Station at 8:45 p.m. and ran together to White River Junction where they split.

The "Red Wing" handled a 3 compartment/drawing room/buffet sleeper, a 12 section/drawing room Pullman, and coaches.  The "Red Wing" was handed off to the CP at Wells River at 3:00 a.m. and ran as CP 209 to Montreal where it arrived at 8:30 a.m.

The "New Englander" left White River at 3:22 a.m. and ran via CV as train 325-21, the "Montrealer" to St. Johns where it was handed off to the CN.  Its 12 section/2 double bedroom car arrived in Montreal at 8:15 a.m.

Again thanks to all for their patience with somewhat irregular posts.  We're almost done with it (tomorrow looks crazy) and two days next week.  Then we get a break.

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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:26 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!

Ruth my deAH, ‘bout the ONLY thing bright on this gloomy Tuesday is YOU! <blush> To dream of young man's thoughts in an aging man's mind. <groan> But ‘nuf of that! I'll take a jolt in my mugga Joe if you please, ‘n in fact, make it a "BK splash" if you will! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Boris, I see the crittAHs have lined up - trays in paws - so let's hop to it! No, no, no - that's just an expression. <Good Grief Charlie Brown> <grin> Anyway, Awk gets the tray of seeds - Frostbite the bucket of ice cubes - Artie the field mouse <but do it outback!!> - Tex the saucer of brine ‘n Juneau the chew bone. <phew> Ah yes, and YOU get the small jar of PPF! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

A round for the boyz ‘n the change is for YOU my deAH! <double blush>

How good it is to see a new face at the bar ‘n it sure appears that our new friend Sven will fit right in. He's already addressing the crittAHs! <grin> Nothing like living in the world of cyber space out here in the ether to make things "right"! Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice intro with your Southern Crescent story ‘n account of getting a chance to view the Freedom Train back in 1977 . . . you may like this photo of a Southern passenger train:

Southern EMD E8 #6908 (photo: Martin O'Toole)

Wasn't going to make it in today, but once again, the Mrs. has some appointments to keep ‘n I'm waiting here at home to go fetch her. The Larsman Shuttle  is always on call! <or bettAH be!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

All kinds of activity at the bar yesterday - but it came in spurts. No mattAH - all good ‘n all appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup]

For Pete: Hope things are getting bettAH instead of worsAH out there in mid-Mizzou country. I've been watching the TV weather maps 'n things don't look very encouraging. But then again, these Censored [censored] weather reports covAH far too much territory to give an accurate view. But in general, looks like you're not outta the woods yet. Hope the Bathams is well stocked at your place! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

For Eric: Appears that your immediate distress has slackened - which is good. Hope you'll get this all squared away 'n back to normal <whatever that IS!!> real soon! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Ok - I've given it some serious contemplation ‘n decided to forgive Eric ‘n Pete for being so intent on interfering with my "smitten-ness" with Ruth. So, I've arranged for the two of you to get hired on aboard the Can-Am's Trans Mentor Limited for the round trip I won. Of course, I'm NOT divulging my traveling companion ‘til we get settled into our onboard drawing room suite. <ooooooooooooh> HOWEVER, the ban for the Penthouse Suite continues . . . win some, lose some - others are rained out <so it is said>!

Good stuff from trolleyMAN Rob with that Alco material! Thumbs Up [tup] B-ball Question [?] Well, I'm still following it, but have pretty much lost interest over the years, They don't play it the way I recall and I absolutely DETEST that baggy pants look of these times. <triple barf> But the Knicks are "my guyz" - win, lose or draw - I like ‘em. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

I hear the Larsman Mobile pulling up . . . so let's see what we have for this day!

BTW: That link Da Bossman put up is a gudun to check on what these books 'n videos are all about. Here it is again:

http://www.goldenspike.us

Interurban Electric Locomotives from Baldwin-Westinghouse

Interurban Electric Locomotives from General Electric

The Lima Route

Heartland Traction - The Interurban Lines of Kansas City

Milwaukee Traction (DVD)

 

 

Ruth, I'll see you when it's time for your break so we can take care of those <ahem> admin m
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:16 AM

<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>

G'day Gents!

Running late this AM . . . the bride is finished with her semester of agonizing the students . . . so perhaps we'll sleep "in" more often <Juneau permitting, that is!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

The Tuesday that wasn't - but there's always next week for the Wolfman 'n Moi to get together for this 'n that . . .

Temps here are in the lo-40s (F) 'n the ice is gone . . . it's foggy 'n trying to drizzle. "They" say we'll be sloppy thru tomorrow . . . oh well, it IS late fall. <grin>

That smell is our freshly ground 'n brewed coffee AND the pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery. <ummmmmmm> While you're thinking about it - place an order for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Monday - Dec 10th:

Pete (pwolfe) at 11:05 AM: Hard to believe it, YOURS was the first daylite visit to the bar! Wow!! [wow] That doesn't happen very often . . .

Sorry that our get together got scrapped by the ice situation here in Missouri. However, there's always next week! Yeah!! [yeah] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I'm sure the brew will "keep" another week, eh Question [?]

From what you've said ‘n what I've read, central MO really got <swacked> this time. We on the other hand were more fortunate in that while there was ice, it wasn't anything compared to other areas that are hurtin' . . . Thumbs Down [tdn] Appreciate the head's up . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Doing the laundry Question [?] Did I read that correctly Question [?] Laundry Question [?] YOU, Sir, are the Bar Chandler ‘n have far more important duties here at the bar aside from laundry! <geesh> <double geesh> Division of labor <barf> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Only kidding Laura! <uh oh>

Thanx for the ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 11:38 AM ‘n 11:53AM: And who to our surprise should appear, but our Manager, the Larsman with a Monday spate of covers to interest our varied bunch. Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanx for recognizing the presence of someone who will be joining us at the bar - Sven! I think this endeavor on the part of Eric should go a long way toward changing YOUR attitude regarding our Resident Desert Swede. After all, how many of our customers have ever found new customers for us <as in recruiting> Question [?] I can't think of even one. So, YOU need to reconsider putting Eric back in the good graces of the Manager.

As for Pete, well . . . what's to say Question [?] <grin>

Continuing kudos for your support over on "my other Thread"! Yeah!! [yeah]

Many thanx for the covers, chat ‘n covers - ROUND too! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Sven (Sven) at 11:44 AM: Comments previously made along with an OH-FISH-UL Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard! Thumbs Up [tup]

In case you're wondering - this "feature" is my way of ensuring that all who enter our premises as CUSTOMERS get recognized.

 

 

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:33 PM: Brief but dutiful . . . thanx for the info on the RR BOOK RELAY! If you've got it, let me know by Email when you received the book . . . I'm putting together the chronology of it all, so that will be useful info. Thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

As always, quarters for our Coal Scuttle which in turn helps to feed Herr Wurlitzer along with the round is very much appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Smile,<div style=
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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:54 AM

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Rob, thanks for the info on Alco diesels. I was and am a dunce on locomotive particulars but I know what's photogenic: the PA-1. Hey was that a re-run? You forgot to edit me out.

Welcome Sven. You, Eric, Per and JanOlov will make a fine barbershop quartet. Listening forward to hearing "Sweet Adeline" in Swedish.

Thanks guys for the good reception to the Pearl Harbor pics. My uncle was in the Army Air Corps at Hickam Field that day.

There's tunnels, there's tire innards, and there's tubes, which these links go down the

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/R/R06/R0646-72dpi.jpeg

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/R/R06/R0643-72dpi.jpeg

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:30 AM

Morn' Ruth.

Sorry to clomp in this early, and bother you. But I need my strong balck wake up mug of coffe, and a plain, grease dripping donut. Eh, make that two donuts. Thank you.

I am Sven, new to the neighborhood. My full name is Sven Olov, so if anybody tells you jokes about those Sweeds Sven and Oli, I am both of them.

Anyhow, a short story about one of my US Classic Train experiences, just to justify my being here. While I still lived in Sweden, my US bride insisted on us vacationing in her homeland every year. As I had a position at the Swedish State Railroads, SJ for short, that rendered my free railpasses around the world, we mostly travelled by rail on our vacations. This time, April 1977, we had a sleeper on the Southern Crescent from Washington, DC to Los Angeles, CA. (New Orleans - LA = Sunset Limited) The sleeper was unhooked for 24 hours in New Orleans, and we used it as our hotel. For some hours the Freedom Train, povered by fomer Southern Pacific GS-4, 4-8-4 Northern #4449, stood at the track opposite our sleeper. I had the opportunity to chat with the crew, and also climb aboard the engine. I have a very faded photo of the occation in one of my albums. Anyhow, this was a clip from one of many great rail trip memories twirling around in my head.

Ruth, is it OK to give Awk a nibble of my donut?

Lars, Tom, Pete, and more, thank you for your welcoming words. I already feel at home.

Eric, I'll try to behave, and thank you for helping me around. By the way, is there any spell check here?

Time for departure, and switch out on the daily grid line.

Sven Cowboy [C):-)] (have always dreamt about being a cowboy)

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:13 PM

Hey Leon I think another Irish coffee is reqired I can still feel my toesSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Here's some morning reading that I dare say may be a bit more entertaining thasn the daily cage liner or maybe not, you guys can decide.

enjoy  Rob

CLASSIC DIESELS # 38 LOCOMOTIVE DESIGNATIONS PT 1 ALCO / MLW

Reading Mikes post on the difficulty of the diesel  locomotives designations lead me to doing a couple posts on the more widespread ones, so here goes. We will start with my favourite manufacturer of diesel locomotives ALCO / MLW.

As with most locomotive builders the terminolgy for their products started out silmpe and then got a bit more involved as more and newer designs came online. ALCO created the designations and MLW their Canadian counterpart for ttte most part carried through te same designations for their designs with the occational differences as the two companies gradually became separate entities. I'll attempt to unraval the designs. Most likely I'll miss a few so apologies ahead of time.

 

The first basic engines were the early switchers and cab units designed to compete with EMD's early offerings.

DL109 / 110's were passenger cab units introduced by ALCO to compete with EMD's early E units in the earlyb 40's. These units were built exclusivly by ALCO and were sold only to US roads.

HH660 and HH1000's were the first end cab switchers built by Alco again just before the war. The HH stood for High Hood as the hood was the same height as the cab the number differences were the HP rating of the enginbes themselves 660hp or 1000. again these units were only built by ALCO for US companies.

S1,S2,S3,S4 & S6 locomotives were the frist conventional switch engines,also some of the most popular of their creations with units being built in the US and by MLW in Canada. The S1,S3's were 660 hp units with the S2's and S4's being 1000hp units. The S6 ( built only by Alco ) were 1000hp unit but used the new 251 engine . In Canada   additional enhine types were built the S11 using the old 537 motor and 800hp the S13 using a 1000hp 251 and the RS23 a 1000hp 251 but these units had road trucks an AAR type B similar to the regular RS type units.

The FA 1 FB 1, FA2 FB2 were the 1500 then 1600 hp cab units built to compete with EMD's F series, all used the new 244 engine.Passenger units with the 244's were designated the FPA 2's and FPB-s' these caame equipped with steam generator equipment for passenger car heating.they were built by both ALCO and MLW with MLW going one further with the design bringing out the FPA-4's engined by the more reliable 251 engine. The A's were cab wquiped the B's were cabless boosters.

The Pa1, PB-1,PA2,PB2 and PA3's were the six axles passenger units built by ALCO only for the US roads, and are agueably the most beloved of the early passenger engines.

The next series of ALCO locomotives also using the 244 power systems were their RS series.The RS1 was a 1000hp unit the first true road switcher it was followed by the 1500hp RS2 and the 1600hp RS3.Sub vrients with and A1A-A1A configuration were also built the RSC2 and RSC3 locomotives. Later CC trucked units were built in the RSD4 and 5 series. The RS1's and the 6 axles varients were only made by ALCO MLW bult RS 2's and #'s for the Canadian roads. The next unit in the RS family was the 1800HP RS11 and it's six axles runningmate the RSD12 built only for US roads by ALCO. In Canada MLW built the RS10's with 1600HP 244's and the RS18 with the 1800hp 251 engines instead.

After the RS11's Alco concentrated on using the 251 engines only.The RSD15's were the frist of this new batch, followed by the RS27's ( 2650hp } RS32's (2000hp) and the RS36's (1800hp) it was found that these older units were not selling well in the face of the latest EMD and by this point GE locomotives co none of those units were built by MLW for Canada. A new more modern series the centruy line was designed.   

The first of the centruy locomotives brought in a new hp wheel arrangement designation to ALCO. first came the C424's C for Century 4 being a B-B truck arrangement and 24= 2400hp, next came the C425 both were built for both canada by MLW and for the US by Alco. The first big Alco came out at the same time in the form of the C628 C= century series 6= C-C truck arrangement and 28=2750hp. The C628 were not built for canada by MLW. mext came the C420 ad the C430's a 2000 and 3000hp road switcher built only by ALCO for US customers. the next big alco's were the C630's and C636's 3000-3600hp six axle units built for teh US market by Alco, then ALCO went out of the locomotive business. MLW continued on and changed the designations for te lates t big alcos to M630 and M636 M=Montreal built. This was followe dwith a one off AC traction M640 for CP only ( 4000hp unit ) and a M630W model for BC rail only it was a 3000hp M630 with a full width wide cab nose.After 1974 MLW was purchased by Bombardier and continued to build locomotives mostly for the Canadian market. the first was the M420 a four axles 2000hp switcher with a full width cab and nose alter it was redesigned as the HR412 still 2000 hp but with neew microprocessor controls and the final was the HR616 which was a 3000hp full coweled six axle road switcher.The LRC passenger locomotives were also produced for VIA rail by Bombardier in the late 70's and early 80's. By 1986 Bombardier discontinued locomotive production.

Not a complete list but I hope it's helpfull

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:07 PM

Good evening Leon , It's cold heer and I ahve a cold so I think a large and well spiked Irish coffee for myself tonight ( it oughta put me right to sleep )Zzz [zzz] Anywho glad to see that Tom and Pete have for the most part survived teh first ice storm of this winter. Looks like we may catch the tail end of it tomorrow or wednesday depending on how the storm's moveThumbs Down [tdn]I do hate the ice mixed in with the snow espeacially with the maple trees of ample proportions that ring our house ( I know Boris your favourite rubber girl has ample proportions as well ) <argh>

Lars-Loved the days editions from the Larsmobile, I actually own one or two of those ( go figure ). I'll just say this , basketball is not my thing never will be, in fact it's one of those sprots that could implode and dissapear and I wouldn't miss it.I live for hockey and tolerate baseball , footballs fine so long as it's played by CFL rulesBig Smile [:D] so yes I definatly misread or at least read the miss-printed local cage liner, whick had the Celtics top o the heap ,again I think the local sports writer is a hockey and Lacrosse guy so those two sports get amazingly accurate reporting. I'm beginning to think that he musta worked for teh mentor gazzette at sometime and was found wanting.Dunce [D)]

Tom-Couldn't aggree with you more about the lost opportunities to create better rail infrastructure in our countries, nuff said we both know the score.I'll keep a finger or two crossed for you guys and hopefully that storm won't cause as much mayhem as the one you and Pete lived through last year.

I'm glad that you liekd that OSR RS18. The 18's are my favourite locomotive, tough old birds,it's a credit to MLW's designers that so many of them still carry the mail as it were today.

I can't believe that someone actually responded to a Christmas card from you guys with an email ! Good gawd gertie is there anything ruder than that ?

Sven-Welcome aboard sir , as has been stated by the rest of the boyz any friend of Eric's is okay in my books, espeacially if he's a railroader to boot Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric-Perhaps you guys can offer to act as personal grooms and Butlers for Lars and his "guest" on the train, and work your way back into the area's from which you were banned. Just a thought, mind you I would offer to work for freeBig Smile [:D]

Those little inspection cars were wuite soemthing weren't they. Just a small rotory engine powered them no bigger than most lawnmowers. They were quick and upto 10  or so years ago they were the inspection vehicle of choice for most railroads, until finally being replaced by the high rail equiped trucks everyone use's today.Ther are people out there that collect and restore thease little machines, a hobby in itself.

Pete-Glad that you liked the shots.The OSR does pay particualar and pirdes themselves in clean servicable equipment. Much like the Wisconcin Central used to.They have kept alive the TH&B's marroon and creame and it looks just as good on their deisels as it did on the GP's and NW's of old.

Rob

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Posted by EricX2000 on Monday, December 10, 2007 10:42 PM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, I’ll have my weekly ham sandwich, please! You know, sugar cured ham on rye. Keith's!

Another week! But I don't care, just 10 more days! Received the Relay book today! Will be very interesting to read!

Tom –  I used to have boxes full of old and new vacuum tubes until the late 80’s. But now they are all gone. I kind of miss them.Smile [:)]

What I like about model railroading is that the only limitation is, as you said, your own imagination. You may want to concentrate on making everything 100% to scale, or maybe concentrate on traffic/timetables, etc, or running specific models, like big steam engines, diesels, or narrow gauge small trains. Or, like Ron, build a good size model from scratch and run it on your own track outside the house!. Smile [:)]


Pete –  Hope you made it through the day without any power outages.Smile [:)]

You are right, Manager Lars is... hmmm, kind of not so friendly when it comes to our offer to help him on the Observation Car trip. I don’t know why.Confused [%-)] He is hinting something about “glittering” as in gold.

I’ll let Gonzo know about future mice for Artie!Smile [:)]

Lars –  Hey, what’s up? No hard feelings, we just want to make your trip as comfortable and nice as possible!Yeah!! [yeah] Glitter as in gold? Hmmm, what could that be? No clue. Confused [%-)]

Some very interesting covers today!Thumbs Up [tup] Including traction!Thumbs Up [tup] I love the picture on the first cover, Shortline Railroads of Arkansas. Looks almost like a model train layout!

Sven –  Wow, glad to see you stopping by!Thumbs Up [tup] You don’t have to sneak out the back door, you already put the blame on me so I’ll take care of any problems that might occur! Wink [;)]

Hope to hear you clomping in here again soon!Smile [:)]

CM3 –  Received the book today, thank you!Thumbs Up [tup] Thanks for the round!

Refueling, Minot, ND. 

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, December 10, 2007 5:51 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams XXX please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

ALLAN Yes they will be a very special trip with the 3 A4s from London to Aberdeen.Approve [^] I think I am right in saying that steam trips across the Forth and the Tay bridges are very rare nowadays. I remember a two-day trip I went on in 1980 based in Glasgow. On the first day it was A4 No 60009 Union of South Africa from Stirling up to Dundee, where the loco turned and then back to the Glasgow area via both the Tay and Forth Bridges and the freight only line that leaves the main line south of the Forth Bridge and joins the Edinburgh to Glasgow line near Linlithgow. On the Sunday It was a trip round the Edinburgh area with the LNER 4-4-0 No 256 Morayshire and the ex North British 0-6-0 No 673 Maude.

A photo of Alan's showing A4 No 60009 Union of South Africa arriving at York from Scarborough on 8th of August this year.They are great locomotives.Approve [^]

Glad you liked Alan's photosThumbs Up [tup] the next few I will show will be from The Foxfield Railway gala featuring industrial tank locomotives. Hope you friends at the Ex Serviceman's lunch enjoy the ‘radar' taleYeah!! [yeah]

I think the ones who ran the GNER franchise before ran about the best service in privatizationBow [bow], I hope National Express can keep up the same standard.Yeah!! [yeah]

ROB Glad you enjoyed Alan's photos, thanks for the drink.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the Ontario Southlands locomotive photosThumbs Up [tup] the NW2 # 51 looks in great conditionApprove [^] as well as indeed does that interesting speeder.Yeah!! [yeah]

JAN Many thanks for those great photos of those East Coast Railroads steam locomotives hard at workThumbs Up [tup]. As Rob says they are indeed good cameramen who can capture a locomotive at speed, especially with the cameras when those photos were taken in 1930s.Bow [bow]

ERIC Glad you had a good weekend.Thumbs Up [tup]

 I think we are banned from the Observation Car on Manager Lars trip as wellSad [:(]; it will be interesting to see who will do the serving on the train.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] ARTIE says to pass on his thanks to Gonzo for the mouseThumbs Up [tup] any more will be gratefully received.Smile [:)]

Many thanks for the great photo of the Shay's cylindersThumbs Up [tup]; the one at Jamestown was inside the shed so it was not possible to get a good photoSigh [sigh]. I have a DVD set that includes the Cass Scenic Railroad and it is great to see those Shays working hardApprove [^].

LARS Yes Tom and I were supposed to meet up tomorrow, but owing to the conditions we have postponed it a week, it would have been OK if we had got stranded in the Train wreck saloon.Whistling [:-^]

That is a great link to the GG1s paint schemesApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], even has the silver color CM3 talked about.Yeah!! [yeah] The earlier schemes seem to suit the GG1s really well especially the Tuscan Red although I thought some of the later ones did not suit the locomotives at all. Many thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Great set of books from the Larsman Mobile todayApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Short Lines in Arkansas and the book on Bradford Ohio look well worth a readYeah!! [yeah]. Then three great trolley books in color.Thumbs Up [tup]

SVEN May I add mySign - Welcome [#welcome] to those of Lars and Tom. As Manager Lars says any friend of Eric will be a friend of ours.Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 will look forward to your post tomorrowThumbs Up [tup].

TOM Well so far so good with the power situation here, I though it was thawing a bit but just now some large branches came down along the streetShock [:O], really hope that forecast of more freezing rain and ice build up is wrongYeah!! [yeah].

As you say it as not been a good year for the Missouri NFL teamsSad [:(], the bride could not bear to watch any more of the Chiefs yesterdayBanged Head [banghead], I think she was hoping the power had not come back on until the game had finishedBig Smile [:D]

Yes it looks as like the nearest Eric and I will get to the Trans Mentor Limited is waving ‘Bon Voyage' to Lars and his mystery guest from Mentor station.

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, December 10, 2007 3:02 PM

NOTICE!     NOTICE!     NOTICE!

The RR BOOK RELAY 2007 is underway!

 

  

Pete (pwolfe) has a book that he's sharing with the boyz - it's called Red for Danger. 

  

  

 

 

  

So what's a RR BOOK RELAY Question [?]

The book gets mailed from person to person, with comments made by the reader on the forms provided. At the conclusion, all comments will be put into an Email "report" 'n sent to the participants.

Simple enough Question [?]

 

 

Signed up are:

(1) Lars (LoveDomes - New York City) - (2) CM3 Shane (coalminer3 - West Virginia) -

(3) Eric (EricX2000 - Arizona) - (4) Allan (Gunneral - New Zealand) - (5) Tom (siberianmo - Missouri) 

 

Journey of the book:

I received it from Pete <Jefferson City, MO> on Aug 28th 

Mailed to Lars on Sep 1st

Mailed to CM3 Shane on Sep 14th

Mailed to Eric on Dec 8th

 

  

Now WHO ELSE wants "in" Question [?]

Let me know by EMAIL because sometimes things Posted at the bar have a way of getting misplaced (ie: not read)!!

We're having fun with this! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] 

  

  

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, December 10, 2007 2:33 PM

Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffe, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  'Nother one of "them days" as we are just back from the outside which is warm today for a change - just ne3eded the field coat not the down vest and the heavy Carhartt monster like we did last week.

Needless to say this is just a quick one, but we will be back tomorrow at our usual time. 

Note to OSP and Eric - book was mailed from here (1st Class) on Saturday.

Work safe

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, December 10, 2007 1:53 PM

G'day Gents!

I see we've been visited by a newcomer to the bar, a friend of Eric's - named Sven! While I generally refrain from our OH-FISH-UL welcome until the 2nd visit - I think an exception may surely be made in your case.

So, Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Aboard, Sven! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

First drink is on the house - after that, well it's just like any other tavern - pay as you go! But not to fret, we have many opportunities for drinks on the house - just take advantage of 'em! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Manager Lars covered what I would've have said - so I also recommend you take a look at our FIRST PAGE for the <groundrules> then the final several, just to see who is who along with what's being said.

The distinction between this Thread <site> and those found elsewhere is we are interactive and pride ourselves on ensuring that the other guy gets recognized. But I have a feeling you already know that . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Surely hope we'll be hearing from you regularly and we're looking forward to your offerings on Classic Trains <north America or Europe or . . . . >

Oh yes, you'll probably find that there are some "characters" around here that may require some clarification. For example, RUTH is our daytime bartender - BORIS is our resident Cyclops <?> and man <?> about the bar. LEON is our night bartender. We have mascots too. And CINDY is our Saturday daytime bartender AND she's MINE, MINE, MINE!  <grin> You'll see references to them as you progress through the Pages.

Awk is our Parrot - Tex is our Armadillo - Artie is our Owl - Frostbite is our Penguin and Juneau is our Siberian Husky. Clear enough Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

There's much more, but in time you'll find that it all will appear "normal" to you! <grin>

Again, most happy to have you join us! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:53 AM

Ahoy Sven!

Just caught your post as I was about to check out!

Stealing Cap'n Tom's thundAH a bit <he's Bossman 'round here> let me jump on the occasion to say that any friend of Eric's is a friend of ours! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

There's all kinds of "stuff" to learn about what we do here 'n how we do it. Don't let any of that confuse you - we're all confused enough! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I suggest that you begin at the beginning - check out page one - it contains all you'll need to understand the premise <ground rules> of this cyber space adult bar 'n grill . . . then as Cap'n Tom will surely tell you, read through the last 5 or 6 pages of material. That will get you up to speed on who the customers are 'round here 'n what they have to say.

You'll surely fit in here as we've got an international group with the UK - Sweden - New Zealand -Canada 'n the U.S. well represented. Thumbs Up [tup] Me Question [?] My heritage is Norwegian - I'm 2nd generation American.

Your "official" welcome comes from our Proprietor <Cap'n Tom> HOWEVER, I'm the Manager, so have one on me! <grin> Ruth, pour the man a drink! Thumbs Up [tup]

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:44 AM

Good Afternoon, all.

Sorry for clomping in like this, but I need a cup of strong! coffe. May i join you?

Blame it on Eric, that I am here. I, as he, have spent time at the Swedish State Railroads (1962-1982) in warious positions. I live since 1983 in the States, Upper Midwest.

I will try to learn how to handle this format, and how to brighten my dull writing up with symbols, as I go. I will mainly visit at my breaks and lunch hour at work.

I stop here for my first visit, and humbly sneak out the back door, as I do not know what I just did, and how, and where it will appear.

Sven 

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:38 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!

Ruth my deAH, just a mugga Joe with a jolt for now . . . Any pastries left Question [?] A couple of crullers will do! A round for the house, treats for the crittAHs, the small jar of PPF for Boris ‘n the change for YOU! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Kinda <gloomy> ‘round here too - temperatures aren't supposed to get out of the low-40's . . . chance of rain pretty much all week. Gasoline is at $3.29 at our "favorite" station . . . <ugh>

My JINTS WON! They are now sitting pretty good for a wild card spot, but we can't count our chickens yet. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Logged some football on the tube yesterday . . . too much in fact. Fortunately, the Mrs. likes watching it - she says it helps her sleep bettAH! <huh?>

My Rangers are suddenly behind the Devils - beat ‘em last nite, but fell out of 1st place . . . <groan>

What's this about the Knicks???? Is trolleyMAN trying to sell somebody a "bill of goods"??? The Lakers ‘n Knicks have been one ‘n two as the MFF <most valuable franchise> for years . . . just read where the Knicks overtook the Lakers for the "honor." Don't know, or really don't care about that kinda stuff - but it doesn't surprise me. I'm amazed - truly amazed - that the NBA can survive outside of the U.S. . . . just my two cents.

Don't suppose anyone took notice, for not very many of "us" stop by on Sundays, but I didn't "show" yesterday. I'm back to taking that day "off," as intended by Da Bossman here ‘n "upstairs." <grin> May even go to alternate days during the week. Things are beginning to mount up for me too. <groan>

Cap'n Tom came through with a whole bunch of French TGV "stuff" on Saturday - looks like it was updated - all read, all digested <burp> ‘n all I need to do is speak a bit of du lange . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] <I think that's how it is phrased!>

Some support from Fergie - Pete - Allan ‘n Rob too! Thumbs Up [tup] Made for a quiet, but interesting day . . . Noticed Jan showed up on Sunday with an offering of photos - guduns too. Thumbs Up [tup]

For Eric 'n Pete: Look you guyz, it's pretty simple. Youse have been trying to get "the goods" on me for months. Angry [:(!] So, WHY would I want any part of youse aboard the Can-Am Trans Mentor Limited Question [?] My daddy didn't raise a fool <dontchano!> Grumpy [|(]

Fair - shmare. Banned is what youse are! PERIOD . . . unless of course a bit of "somethng" crosses the palm of my hand <and it better "glitter" as in gold!> Shock [:O]

For Allan: Glad you're enjoying the book covAHs . . . and no, I'm unfamiliar with that writer or the museum you mentioned.

Couple of funnies at the Emporium - the Santa Clause is a gudun . . . Kranks is awright too. Tim Allen is great in the Santa Clause movies . . . part was made for him. Thumbs Up [tup]

Just noticed Pete's on board! Thumbs Up [tup] Have a "hot toddy" on me, mate! <double jigger> should warm you up right well! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Weren't you 'n Cap'n Tom supposed to rendezvous this week Question [?] Looks like the icing gotcha both. Hope there's a "do ovAH" in the works! Thumbs Up [tup]

You had asked a question regarding the ORIGINAL color of the Pennsy GG1's . . . here's a Url that may help . . . http://www.spikesys.com/GG1/paint.html Thumbs Up [tup]

Ok, time once more for the Larsman Mobile ‘n the daily book covAHs . . .

Short Line Railroads of Arkansas

  

Bradford the Railroad Town

  

Southern States Trolleys in Color

Ohio Valley Trolleys in Color

Streetcar Scenes of the 1950s in Color

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:05 AM

Hi Tom and all.

A cup of your steaming hot cup of 'Joe' and a bacon and egg sarnie please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup].

It was good to talk to you this morning Tom.Thumbs Up [tup]

Just a quick note to say we are in, what the weather people rather quaintly call, an 'ice event' here in Mid MoThumbs Down [tdn]. We have had a bout of freezing rain and it has brought down trees and branches. We had two power outages yesterday and unfortunatly we are do for some more bad icing today and tomorrow, so if I am not at the bar it will be because we have lost power againSad [:(]. The electricity guys are working real hard Bow [bow]but if it gets worse they wont have a chance.

Hopefully I shall be back later todayThumbs Up [tup].I am going to try to get the laundry done while we still have power

So can you get a round in please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup].

Pete.   

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" Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, December 10, 2007 6:37 AM

<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>

A smile to begin the week!

Asking his wife where has she been, she responded, "I took Tim to see Dr. Zhivago." Yogi's replied, "What the H's wrong with him now?

<A Yogi-ism!>

G'day Gents!

We have ice all around us this morning - been pretty much that way all weekend 'n is projected to continue on thru Wednesday with rain 'n freezing rain. <ugh> About the only thing "good" to say is that the trees 'n shrubs all look quite "wintry" with their coats of ice . . . Juneau is rarin' to GO! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

It's THAT day again - MONDAY <ugh> - but on the bright side, there's BREAKFAST waitin' for ya at the Tavern by the Tracks Yeah!! [yeah] - so order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board. Grab a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n draw a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee while you're waiting! Thumbs Up [tup]

Working on the Christmas card list this weekend ‘n decided that it's time to trim ship. Been sending out cards to hither ‘n yon with little or no annual responses. And can you imagine getting an Email response to card Question [?] Happens too often . . . <tacky> in my book . . . <bah humbug> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Just another indicator of changing times, social graces, et al . . . Thumbs Down [tdn]

<Don't get me wrong - Email greetings are fine, but not in response to someone who has taken the time 'n made the effort to send a card by mail.>

Figure I'll save enough to buy a six pack of Keiths next time I'm in Canada! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Saturday - Dec 8th:

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 11:13 AM: Good to see our sailorman again! Thumbs Up [tup]

Those Forum's Gremlins do NOT discriminate, for they <attack> Posts ashore ‘n at sea with impunity! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

And to think I thought the MESS was strictly an imaginary railway conjured up in the mind of our Canadian Maritime Mariner. Stick around boyz, we live ‘n learn! Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for swinging by . . . you should be getting close to heading back home, eh Question [?]

Lars (LoveDomes) at 11:54 AM: Not to disappoint, our Manager came through <again> with an excellent offering for Saturday! Thumbs Up [tup] As you KNOW, anything to do with GG1s definitely "flicks my switch," so keep ‘em coming! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Yeah, I recall that Post of yours for my B'day back in 2006. I checked back on those Pages <several!> and it was quite a turnout. Really brought back some memories of days <daze> gone by . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Received your Email ‘n not to worry. As I've said - the bar WILL survive. Of course if you cannot be here daily, we'll try to plug the gap as best we can . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Congrats on the CONTEST win <again> - you definitely are the ONLY person to not only pick the winner, but to do so on the first entry. Wow!! [wow] So WHO is going to accompany you in the obs dome drawing room suite Question [?] Hmmmmmmmmm. <grin>

Your JINTS won! So that should put a smile on your mug . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Round, visit ‘n great ENCORE! material ‘n fotos appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete (pwolfe) at 4:34 PM: Long time between "regulars," but I'm glad you made it "in." Figured you would, but one never knows when it's Saturday ‘n there's a wife around with a "things to do list"!! <uh oh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Try as you may to get you <'n Eric> on board the Can-Am Railway's Trans Mentor Limited, I doubt it will happen! Last thing Lars needs are FOUR eyes checking out his every move . . . <well, maybe not EVERY!> <grin> I just can't imagine WHO is traveling companion might be . . . hmmmmmmmm.

Artie would dearly love a "fresh" mouse . . . just let Boris take it ‘n Artie outback! <ugh>

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, December 9, 2007 11:02 PM

It is so dark here this time of the year! Where is that slot... here. I just noticed that Rob sneaked in here a little while ago. Hmm. Bottles?! Hmmm. I better get away from here before it is too late.

JanOlov –   Nice pictures from days long gone!Thumbs Up [tup] I especially like the photo of train #1 at Muir, MT.

Also interesting to see the pictures from the East coast! Okay, Ohio and Chicago too! Smile [:)]

Tom –  I run my first model electrics like you did.Wink [;)] Pantographs down and no catenary. Worked just fine. But later I built my own catenary.

I remember those giant vacuum tubes!Smile [:)] And the older tubes of all different kinds and sizes. Built my own tube tester. That saved a lot of time trouble shooting.

Pete and I was scheming to find this ’n that about Manager Lars and Ruth?? No, must be a misunderstanding. But we found out a lot!! Mischief [:-,]

Thanks for all the articles on TGV!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] I am not a big fan of French railroads but I must admit they certainly did a good job developing and building TGV plus all the new infrastructure! They really believed in what they were doing and things turned out great. I have never been on a TGV, but I have seen them from the outside.Smile [:)]

I did not know there had been so many protests against building the new lines for TGV.

Christmas is almost here! Now it shows even at the Emporium! Two Santa Claus movies! Both starring Tim Allen! Looking forward to see them!

Just 157 days until the 3rd Annual Rendezvous!! 

Fergie –  I can imagine winds 40 is more than enough.Oops [oops] I think you mentioned once that the sea is pretty shallow in the area where you spend most of the time.

Lars –  It is pretty cold here in the sand box right now. I don’t think anything will happen before the end of this year. Which is fine with me. I just have to be careful about what I eat.Smile [:)]

Banned?? From the Penthouse Suite?? That is not fair. Apology (payoff)?? We have been so discrete. I don’t think you are fair!Confused [%-)]

Nice pictures of nice locomotives, GG1’s! Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete –  You are right, there would be some problems converting the wine tank car and fill it with beer for the track gang. Something to think about.

This weekend has been much better than the two previous ones from my point of view. I even managed to replace the kitchen faucet today! Smile [:)]

Gonzo said it is perfectly okay to give the mouse to Artie!Wink [;)]

I am not sure what manager Lars wants. He certainly will need two waiters for his up coming trip. Mischief [:-,]

Nice pictures from Alan!Thumbs Up [tup] Sad looking station building though. Maybe there are no train stops on the main line at that place.

Allan –  Yes, this weekend was not bad, just a little bit of pain tonight. I will know on Tuesday when I will have my surgery. Probably early next year.Smile [:)]

What is the name of that book with the picture of the X2000?Question [?]

Rob –  Thanks for the pictures of the Canadian locomotives!Thumbs Up [tup] I love the picture of that tiny inspection speeder! Not much of protection if anything goes wrong though.


Interesting kind of locomotive, a Shay, at IRM.

 

 

Eric 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, December 9, 2007 10:47 PM

Howdy Leon ,figured I would come in and help you count the bottles for the next return.A slow closed Sunday , which is of coarse agood thing.

jan-Some mighty fine steam selections, thanks for bringing them in. I've always prefered the "action" shots. Some photographers just get it right. Thumbs Up [tup] to those who can.

Pete-Sorry I forgot all about mentioning your saturday selections from Alan.Banged Head [banghead] allow me to buy you your next beverage when you come in tomorrow afternoon.Well folks I'm off see everyone tomorrow.

Rob

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Posted by JanOlov on Sunday, December 9, 2007 12:03 PM

Greetings Tom and gentlemen...

Just thought that stop by to drop off a few pics and some $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.... I hope that you all enjoy a quiet Sunday. 

NYNH&H 4-6-2 #1368 with #23, Yankee Clipper, at Westbrook, Conn., August 18, 1937. Photo by Otto Perry.

NYNH&H 4-6-2 #1025 with "Fall River Boat Express", near Boston, Mass., October 11, 1930. Photo by Otto Perry.

NYC 4-6-4 #5310 with #50, Empire State Express, near Syracuse, N.Y., August 23, 1933. Photo by Otto Perry.

B&A 4-6-4 #619 with #25, The 20th Century Limited, leaving Springfield, Mass., August 22, 1933. Photo by Otto Perry.

NYC 4-6-2 4915 Mercury near Olmsted Falls, Ohio, August 9, 1937. Photo by Otto Perry.

NYC 4-6-4 #5291 with #26, 20th Century Ltd, near Chicago, Ill., August 7, 1937. Photo by Otto Perry.

Credit: Photoswest

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket All the best! Jan
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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 8, 2007 9:26 PM

  Well here's a couple late saturday pics for everyone. Oh Leon another Guiness as well sir and here's a 20 for a round for any late stragglers.

The lone survivor of the TH&B's NW2's , still in its TH&B paint as lovingly preserved and still used by the Ontario Southland railway.

One of the Ontario Southlands ex CP Rail RS18u's at St Thomas Ontario.

To of The Ontario Southlands ex CP Rail RS23's at Guelph JCT Ontario

The Southlands track inspection speeder also at Guelph JCT

enjoy  Rob

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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 8, 2007 9:18 PM

Good evening folks Leon I think a guiness tonight ( I need a beer with some body ) this Censored [censored] cold is back again with a vengence , most like because just about everyone a work has it in one form or another , modern buildingsThumbs Down [tdn] just are not healthy.

Tom-Wow you were a busy beaver today , loved re-reading the three parter on the TGV. If only such trains would be brought to fruition in our contries , down with cars I sayWink [;)] just kidding , but we North Americans do like the automobile way to much.I'm supprised that you hadn't heard that saying <tighter than tree bark> I remember my grandmother using it ever since I could well remember.

  The Raptors thing was of coarse refering to last year when they won their division, I don't think they'll be remotely close this year, Boston seems unbeatable at least so far.

 Lots 'o' shots and info on GG1's the last couple of days ( daze ) you most be in PRR heavenBig Smile [:D] don't worry 'bout I'm going to pace myself so I don't burn out again. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the 10+ years I was part of that train club , but unfortunatly as with anything in life, it only takes a couple JO's to ruin it for everyone.

Lars-Congrats on winning the prize, you nailed it sir right on both accounts Bow [bow]Loved the GG1 right up and photo's, it flicked dabossman's switch as well Thumbs Up [tup]Nice to see also that the larsmobile hasn't run out of titles yet as well. Thumbs Up [tup] 

Ron-That's some impressive work that's taking shape on your work bench,good luck on getting the 'ole kitchen cabinnets completed  on time as well.

Allan-I'm glad that you liked the website,I'll have to post some of teh pictures I've taken of some of their birds over the years again for everyone.

Rob

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