Gentlemen all-good evening,Leon beer for all please,before I start-apologies to the company for leaving you all hanging last night-had fully intended to put up the schematic of the upper level of the layout as well-to make sense of it ,however events (well...beer) conspired against me-so in the interests of completeness-
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So then-there is the rest of it--trains come up the bank from the bottom right,cross down trains at Midsomer Norton,ease up through the `S` bend to the junction,get the green and cruise into the Bath arrival platform,new engine on the back and off to the staging yard at top left.....
Hope this answers some questions-other questions TOM-colours are the switchable sections-some of them can be switched to local cabs and one or two needing the switch on the `blue`(common return)side.....enough already..right -gonna drop thedime on this one and go check out the galley
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G'day Gents!
Feeling under the weather ‘n figured it best to get these out NOW, rather than wait . . . been a tough 4 nites . . . <groan>
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Thursday - March 13th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 197 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 12:35 PM: A "different" kinda visit from our Resident WVA Connection - actually ordered some chow ‘n a brew!
We're on "fucia alert" here upon notification of a coal miner bearing gifts! <uh oh>
Know what you mean about difficulty in getting there from here <or vice versa> - used to travel to all of the major river cities in the 22 states once under the control of the old 2nd USCG District. To fly to Huntingon required a change of planes in Atlanta or somewhere equally off the shortest distance between two points! So I drove . . . On the serious side, ever since TWA folded the tent, Lambert is a mere shadow of "back in the day" . . .<groan>
Mushy Peas are definitely NOT on the menu at my Haus for Rendezvous III. Live with it!
Ahhhhh song titles - enjoyed ‘em! Here's some from Herr Wurlitzer's limitless collection:
<press L14 - B28 - P32 - S9 - H42>
If You Can't Live Without Me, Why Aren't You Dead Yet?
I Sat Down On a Bear trap (Just This Morning)
Mama Get The Hammer (There's A Fly On Papa's Head)
Heaven's Just A Sin Away
She Made Toothpicks Out Of The Timber Of My Heart
Much appreciation for the chat ‘n visit!
Page 197 - Dave <West Coast S> at 12:59 PM: UTB sighting . . . Round appreciated.
Page 197 - Ron <DD1> at 1:40 PM: PG sighting <periphery guy> in with events from 1941 . . . ROUND appreciated.
Page 197 - Pete <pwolfe> at 6:19 PM: Your fone call was the bright note of the day - thanx!
Great shot of 45110! How long ago did you take that shot ‘n where
Liked the fotos of the two electrics!
Yes, it would make great sense to use II, III and so on if vessels are within the same company. Had the pleasure of getting a "tour" of QEII from one of the ship's officers while in Southampton many decades back . . .
Thanx for the < I3> Post, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND!
Page 197 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:27 PM: Many thanx for part deux of your track diagram . . . will give it the scrutiny deserved once whatever has gotten me abates . . .
Many thanx for the visit 'n ROUND!
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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Tom
Right back again-this time with pop-ups fully enabled (apparently )--O.K-tonight we are gonna have PROPER fish & chips-give me a moment or two to find some pix........img{}/img
Right then-tonight we are having an awayday and fish & chips are being served from a street hatch in one of the buildings next to the train-about 5 minutes walk from the camera,and ice cream from the booth by the underpass can be recommended-now the fish comes in batter so light and crisp its almost brittle,the chips are so hot that the vinegar is evaporating into fumes,the whole lot soused in coarse salt and wrapped in newspaper to go-take it down to a bench on the promenade here at Dawlish and sit back on one of the benches and enjoy:-the tide coming in,the sun going down,the trains going past and a deliciously unhealthy supper eaten out in the fresh air with friends............Enjoy
Hi Tom and all,
"HAPPY 35th MONTHIVERSARY TO ONE AND ALL"
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!
Pete. Never saw the Liverpool St pilot at all BITD, it would have looked nice in that blue paint job. Nice lot of pics of the Class 76 electric loco, the EMU set and No 45110 Stanier, and a nice shot of you operating Tom`s S-Capade model RR that Eric posted.
Rob. How do you start your car in the winter mornings? Do you have a sump and radiator heater set up to help at all? Enjoyed your Classic Juice write up`s on the Hamilton Electric Lines and the Santa Fe CF7`s, they had a very unusual looking cab on them.
Eric. Nice to read you are back into your routine at the Cracker Barrel now. NZ Railways will be run by a government department again, they now call them Crown Owned Enterprise`s, all the track is now owned by OnTrack, a COE as well, so it`s gone the full circle. Nice pics of the Baldwin steam loco and Tom`s S-Capades model RR.
CM#. Some very interesting info on the Mopac RR, and talking about Mushy Pea`s, it is a staple of the diet in the North East of England [Geordieland especially], they are also called Peas` Pudding in some places.
Dan. Nice to see you in, nice info on BTF and the Worlwide Short Film Festival in Rob`s home area.
Dave. Nice to see you in again.
Nick. Very interesting write up with the track diagram of your model railway layout, looking forward to seeing your photo`s of it.
Ron. A very interesting write up and list of Railway Events of 1941 and the info on the Indian National Railway Museum and the Monorail system, thanks for that.
Tom. Thanks for your very welcome e-mail and thoughts` in general. The NZ government needs to be congratulated in it`s move to take full control of the National railways`again, all the profits were going off shore! Really enjoyed the #6 series of colourful Drumhead pics, another great set of pics of your S-Capades model RR, [Eric`s pics fitted in well with yours], and the great Classic Transit #4 on the Toronto Transit System with pics. We have just had our first decent rainfall since before Christmas here, we`ve been on alternate hosing days for a couple of months now, no sprinklers allowed at all, our lawns look like a desert at the moment! Hows your snow situation going?
See ya, Allan
Good evening Leon , well the Fisn n Chips are there so I'll have a heapin helpin hold the mushy peas thoughI think a nice cold Keith's to wash it down with Round for the boyz as well.
Eric-Couple interesting shots was that trainee operating with or without the black bag. Sounds like you mad a good choice transportationwise four days in a coach is well Yes the HSR was part and parsel teh same company as the various Hamilton area radials
Tom-Wonderfull write up on the TTC. It's contract time again they have an Apirl 1 strike date set if they don't get the megabucks they want.Which is too bad it's an essential service and should be treated that way. Nice shot of Greenwood yard for teh Yonge University subway trains,I don't know if you remember or not but when we took our little Go train excursion to Pickering we passed it.
I'm with with the UTB nuff said. Hope your feeling better soon. Got your latest emails and I've sent a responce.
Yes I have a lawnmower. goats or any other farm animals are not allowed inside the city limits. the thought had occured though as my back 40's a pain to cut trailing all the extention cords .
Ron-Some intersting fact n figures for 1941, somewhere around here I think I have a poster for the Empire State express if I find it in the next few days I'll repost it.Hopefully it was not stored on railimages Interesting Monorail info as well
CM3-Glad you liked the re-post. That is a wonderfull picture. all those houses are still there but it's not the same type of affluent neighbourhood now. "Hood" describes it much more as the City of Hamilton has got two side the older lower part of the city is the well old dirty side and all the affluence has moved up ontop of the Mountain. Some intersting music picks I think you've been hanging out with the Brunette and Mountain man Mike <uh oh > I know know thine enemy,should make for a good round three of teh darts grudge match
Pete-No! No! NO! We've been burnt twice no more cheap barginns from Britain, the subs still aren't in the water and the less said the better about the chunnel chuggers Sell them to the French and I don't mean those ones that live one Province over.
Nick-Thanks for teh otehr half of teh track plan looks like it should be lots of giggles to operate once you've got it all up and running A topnotch waterfront shot as well
Allan-Las t but not least glad to see you in again and enjoying the write ups No I don't use a block heater,I've never had any difficulties getting any of are cars starting. It's never extremely cold long enough to cause difficulties ,now in Northern Ontario plug in block heaters are a necessity .
Rob
Okay here's the "rest Of the story " on The Hamilton Radial Lines.CLASSIC JUICE # 25 HAMILTON'S RADIAL's PT 2 This is the next part covering the other two radial or interurban lines that fell under the auspices of the Cataract Traction Co. I will do a part three at a later date covering the HSR or Hamilton Street Railway, the city streetcar system thast was part of this conglomeration. Interestingly enough the HSR is still called the HSR today right down to the logo's on their all diesel bus transportation fleet of today. Hamilton Radial Electric Railway : Hamilton to Oakville This railway was the brainchild of John Patterson, his vision in 1893 was to build a radial electric network of 360km's (227 miles )linking Hamilton,Toronto,Niagara Falls,and even Woodstock and London.The first rails were laid in 1893 starting at James St in Hamilton to Hamilton Beach ( now Stelco on Burlington Bay ). In 1895, when the hoped for partner CPR pulled out of the plan, the ambitious scheme was cut back a tad,okay more than a tad. By 1898 it was only built as far as Burlington,and in 1905 to Oakville. From Hamilton the route went along James street, then Gore and Wilson (hwy 2 ) and Sherman St.Where it then took a private ROW which paralleled Sherman street. It then paralleled Barton St to Hamilton Beach.From there it ran alongside the GT entering Burlington at Maple St. In Burlington it ran along Elgin,James, and New St to Oakville where New St becomes Rebecca St and Randell Rd. This area is now called Lakeshore Road old hwy 2 and runs right into Lakeshore Ave in Toronto , all along the shore of Lake Ontario,you can drive this ROW today . Even in the 1920's some of the plans to expand this line continued. In an era when streetcars were rapdily being replaced by busses,the HRE still envisioned a line extending from Oakville to Port Credit and on into Toronto. Track was indeed laid along side the GT/CNR.The scheme finally collapsed in 1925,with the HRE cut back from Oakville to Port Nelson. Today's Go Transit Lakeshore Line encompases most of this plan so good things do come. The HRE's main facilities included a 17 stall carbarn in Burlington and a steam power plant on Burlington Beach.Separate wood stations were built on Hamilton Beach,in Oakville,and in Burlington.The latter was built in 1927 and served as a hydro office and store after the line quit in 1931.The Oakville station still surves today as a restuarant, the Beach station survived till 1980 when it was torn down for condos, the powerhouse was used for the city until 1947 when it was torn down. The carbarns servived as a busbarn in Burlington until 1962. Oddly enough this line was rebuilt and moved slightly in land in the late 60's and continues on as Go transits busy lakeshore line, running commuter trains 7 days a week between Hamilton and Toronto Union Station. The Brantford and Hamilton RY : Hamilton to Brantford Of all of the radial lines from Hamilton,thos one most resembled a regular railway.It ran accross country and for most of it's route travelled on a private ROW.First proposed in 1896 , it was not started or open till 10 years later.It's open route allowed for higher rates of speed and larger more comfortable cars. It's route took it from the terminal station in downtown Hamilton and west on Main st to Hess, where it headed south to Aberdeen. From Queen and Aberdeen it started on its private ROW and began to climbing the limestone face of the escarpment ( known locally as Hamilton Mountain ).Half way up the mountain was Sanitorium Station ( mental hospital there todays McMaster Hospital ), past this station it beagn to climb the cliff face. Today this is the route of HWY 403. Views of todays drivers were once enjoyed only by the passengers of highspeed electric streetcars.The view was of fields and forests not todays condo's and malls. Along the line stations were at ,Jame's St ( UPPER )Alberton,Summit,Langford,Cainsville,and Mowhawk Park.The line terminated at the Bi-level station built by the Lake Erie and Northern in 1915 in downtown Brantford . ( Today;s Brantford Casino occupies this spot ) In 1925 the line almalgamated with the HRE and ran through trains from Burlington to Brantford. After the auto age arrived in the early 20's the line began to operate at a loss. Following the start up of through bus service the ridership on the electric cars declined by half.In 1930 the HEPC bought out all the Hamilton Radials and instituited system wide bus runs. By 1931 service was ended on the HBG. After the shutdown some of the cars were aquired by Canada Crused stone of Dundas and were used till the electric portion of Canada Stone ended in 1971. None were preserved. The HGB ROW was torn up by 1935.All station were demolished at the same time acept for Brantfords LE&N station which the Lake Erie and Northern continued to use until it ended service in 1955. Then it too was torn down. The sight remained dormant till the late 80's when Brantford started to build a telephone museum on site which never took off , it then became the Brantford Charity casino which still operates today.
This is a shot of the Hamilton and Brantford side of the joint B&H and LE&N station in Brantford
Good evening Captain Tom and all!!
Leon, just a double cheeseburger! That is plenty for me tonight.
My Friday is gone and another Friday is here. In other words, two Fridays in a row!
Tom – Hope you will feel better very soon! I think it could be all that snow..., I mean lack of enough of snow.
Yeah, considering the heights the gas price is going to and I have another long trip in August to the old country, I decided to fly instead of driving. I would prefer to drive but with $4/gallon in sight I must admit that I am hesitating. I have to correct you though, the brunette is not traveling with Mountain Man Mike, it’s her older sister. I agree with you on everything you bring up about Amtrak.Most interesting article on Toronto’s Transit System! I certainly would like to go there again and check it out (in the summer time). We’ll see. CM3 – Mushy peas? I don’t know, I think I’ll pass. You are absolutley correct about the Master Mechanic. He is four-footed! A SP milepost.a – Good to see you again, Sir! Maxwell House is a good coffee, I’ll have a cup too. I’ve heard that there are still one or two wig-wags in service in Baraboo, WI. I found one just outside the town at Devil’s Park. See link.http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=197796&nseq=0Hope to see you again soon!Ron – Glad to hear that you are making progress building your class D locomotive! Looking forward to see some pictures soon! Railway Events 1941. Big Boy was “born”. I never heard about the German “V-8” steam locomotive. I have to see if I can find any info on it. Too bad they scrapped it. I have seen pictures of that single rail railroad before. A different design to say the least. Born 1941.Nick – Thanks for the missig part of your layout. After looking closer at the lower level last night I was wondering if the upper level was something that was planned for future. Thanks ofr the photo! I recognize the locomotive but don’t remember the class. Gray clouds in the sky, another storm approaching? Allan – Since I am only working a few days every week now the weekly number of visits to Cracker Barrel are down. But I have been promised a free lunch at my 2,500th visit. I find it most interesting that NZ government is “taking back” the railroads. I’ll see if I can find any more info on the subject. Rob – I really would prefer to drive but I am afraid the gas price is going to be way up there when it is time to take off. So I thought I better get an airline ticket while the price was right. I think that trainee was sitting on his black bag so we couldn’t see what was in it. Thanks for part 2 of the Hamilton Electric Railway! I wonder why the bus service was so attractive that it killed the rail service? Cheaper fares? More stops? That would have meant longer traveling times though.
A round for the house!
Eric
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Friday's Grin
Reason "things" happen!
Law of Shopping: As soon as you find a product that you really like, they will stop making it.
Not feeling up to par today - so this will pretty much be a "going thru the motions" for me . . . sorry. <frown> Thanx to all for the well wishes!
Check out the Menu Board, pastry case ‘n coffee . . . it's all there for YOU on this end of the work week <for many>!
Page 197 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:11 PM ‘n 8:19 PM: Guess there's a reason people get caught in the "grip" - surely has gripped me since Sunday . . .thanx for the well wishes.
Love that shot along the shoreline - I recall it from your past appearances - forgot where it was taken though . . . Dawlish, eh What a great setting for beer drinking, food eating ‘n train watching!
Thanx for the visits ‘n ROUND!
Page 197 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:23 PM: Belated 35th Monthiversary wishes are certainly better than none at all - thanx!
Don't quite know how to "drop" this info - but in my OH-PIN-YUN the person who decided that taking a perfectly good pea ‘n turning into mush needs lots of help . . . <ugh>
With spring just a week away, my guess is we've seen the last of any appreciable snow fall. Although I do remember some good ones into mid-April. Very hard to determine what the next day will bring <weather wise> ‘round these parts . . .
As an island nation it just seems astounding that the technology used aboard military vessels for decades <eons> to desalinate salt water hasn't been put to good use ashore. Same thing here where regions of the country are in perpetual drought . . . we have miles of shore line with only a handful of plants in operation. Yeah, if it ain't profit making "they" ain't gonna do it. <barf> This is where government should insert whatever clout they have to provide fresh water to the people, animals ‘n farmlands . . . ain't "rocket surgery" . . . Water is a necessity for life - any profiteering from it's delivery should be strictly controlled if it can't be eliminated.
Most appreciative of your efforts ‘n ROUND!
Page 197 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:10 PM ‘n 10:24 PM: Just read your incoming - fired off a response <'n the wheel keeps turnin'>
Absolutely remember passing Greenwood yard ‘n here's the foto from our westbound GO train . . .
Far more reading material than I can handle - but I'll get A-ROUNDTUIT once this malady passes . . . Liked that right-of-way shot!
Many thanx for the visits . . .
Friday - March 14th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 197 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:20 AM: That's a lonely SP right-of-way shot, fer sure, fer sure.
Nice shot of the "monster" too . . .
With airlines jacking up the fares to include fuel surcharges ‘n the like, one simply can't rely on "good prices." Seems that you found one - good for you! I don't think four dollar gasoline is going to keep this nation from rolling along the highways - five dollars, hmmmm - that might make a dent. Just my OH-PIN-YUN. There's far more expendable dollars in our land than you might imagine . . . indicators of things going bad would be casinos not drawing crowds - professional sports playing to half full stadiums - along with a host of unnecessary diversions. Again, just the way I see it . . .
Thanx for the inclusive comments - but my guess is some will NEVER be read much less responded to - that was the point.
A ROUND - someone must be in the "chips"! <'n I'm not talking about potatoes . . . > <grin>
TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. As OSP mentioned, a hint of spring in the air today and some birds have returned from southern climes. I know that we'll get at least one more snowstorm. The wife said she could only remember not wearing her winter coat at Easter once where she grew up.
Nick - I copied off the upper level print you posted. It makes sense now? Maximum grade is how much? And is the vertical distance between levels the same or does it vary (I know, it varies where the floor sags, right?) Fish and chips sounds good.
Pete was by with comments and pictures. Bet you can't buy just one item off the Vermont store website.
Allan - we used block heaters when I lived in the far north. You know that you are "up country" when motel ads proclaim that each parking space has a plug in for your vehicle. I had one car here which I fitted with a block heater because it simply WOULD NOT start when the temp got below zero (F). It does get cold here (well below zero F sometimes in the winter) but newer vehicles I have had all start well (I know, Boris, we do have to have a good battery) so I have not had a block heater on a vehicle in a long time. They are fairly straightforward to install, though.
Rob was by with more history and pictures. The station structure is reminiscent of buildings on the late, lamented NYW&B.
Eric- That track looks a little suspect but I think it'll hold. 1215 miles and we get to San Francisco. Does Pete keep the black bag chained to his wrist? Equiring minds want to know.
Dave stopped by.
DD1 provided some 1941 information. Intersting to see that UP scrapped their early streamliners at about the same time the 4-8-8-4s entered service. I am not syaing that there is a connection ther, but the dates and timeframes were interesting. Those early trains had a fair amount of miles on them. None of the picture links worked (but then, the computer is full of squirrels right now anyway.)
OSP - Hope you get to feeling better. Our Intrepid Reporter told Boris that the cure was to, "Drink a case of beer and stay in bed all day." I bet him that you couldn't. "Heaven's Just a Sin Away" is a great tune by the Kendalls, but it must be played with "Teach Me to Cheat." Fuschia alert indeed.
Here's some more agent copy from 1950. This is a good one - Enjoy! You can tell that trains are transitioning from HW to LW consists when you read the ad.
The Scenic Route offers More Genuine Travel Pleasure
If they're going South or North sell them a trip on one of these Great Trains
The Birmingham Special: A fast overnighter between New York and Birmingham with connections for Memphis, Nashville, New Orleans and the southwest. Bedrooms, roomettes, drawing rooms and sections. Modern coaches. Excellent dining service.
The Tennessean: A luxury train running between New York and Memphis with connections for Nashville, Dallas, Fort Worth and the southwest. De luxe tavern-observation car, modern coaches, fine dining service and sleepers with bedrooms and roomettes.
The Pelican: Fast, convenient service between New York and New Orleans and other southern cities. Roomettes, bedrooms, compartments, drawing rooms, sections, Modern coaches and excellent dining service
These famous trains, running over The scenic Route between the North and South via Lynchburg and Bristol, Va., serve a fascinating land east of the Mississippi. There are connections for Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas and other Southwest cities.
Norfolk and Western Railway
Work safe
Morning Ruth I see that you ahven't been completly without customers which is a good thing ( and for your tip jar ) The usual I think a large BK blast thermos and a number three. I'll leave a 20 spot for a round for the lunch crowd.
Eric-Yes the gas prices are spiking ( someone must have caught a cold or something ) been hovering arouns $1.08 a litre for the last week here.The scuttlebut is that by the end of summer if things stay the coarse it will be $1.40 a litre. Time to use our own oil I think let the guys bake but we all know that that won't happen
The switch to buses was for ther easons that you think cheaper more flexible ( they said )Odd most of the good roads were not completed till the 70's so the buses would have bumped the long way up the escarpment on old HWY 2. Not a fun trip today and the road is much better now, I can't even imagine what it would have been like in a 1930's era bus. You likely could have walked faster.
Interesting stretch of ROW, very lonely would hate to break down out there.So the black bag doubles as a seat cusion you say hmmm. Does the bags agent know this , if so it will start cahrging more royalties <uh Oh> no sequal to the black bag movie now for sure, as two rolls mean two salaries.
Are you going to get a professionally done photo for the grand 2500th trip to the CB, which should be displayed prominantly at the restaurant.I always entertain Toronto transit and travel fest. So if you do come up let me know ( we'll try to get a Cracker Barrel built for you )
Tom-Figured you remembered passing the Greenwood yard,I think your pictrue is better than the one from Wikipedia.Got your aletst email a response is floating out there somewhere.I'm guessing just in my head that the origine of Mushy Peas was likely a mistake. I figure some chef some where sat on a sack of peas and didn't have time to replace them so he / she concocted a resipe for mushy peas, and many people liked it. ( as I said just my thoughts, mental brain droppings if you will ) No Boris we don't want any mushy pickles get up.<sheesh>
Isn't it time that you fed the critters anyway, and instead of the PPF you get to eat those pickles you squashed can't leave him unattended for a minute.
Remeber should you need some Holistic healing H&H and Madame Gertrude offer various portions lotions and supplements,they also have a Shamen to perform various rattle dances for you ( Copperkettle ). They don't have the licence to perform excorcisms or sacrifices anymore so they claim that their cures take longer now than before. That or CM3's cure sounds just about as safe
CM3-Interesting N&W passeneger info. The neat thing about that station pictrue is that everything in the picture accept for teh station and the overhead is still there. CN usues that track as a spur to switch the Johnson Wax plant,the Lorne bridge over the Grand River is still there as a the major Brantford West Brantford connector along with a twinned hwy bridge. The old TH&B plate girder bridge is also still there though it's just a walking trail over the river now . Even the Forbes Bros car dealership is still in business though they have moved to the other side of the city, that old lot and sign are still there. Most of that stuff you have to blow the picture up to see.
Right okay Ruth I think i need a top up again before I head into work. ( will be a late night boys so I won't likley be in for the nightcap ) so I'll leave Ruth a bit extra for the afternoon and evening crowd.Here I found the Empire State Express bit that I posted so here it is.
CLASSIC AD'S # 4 THE EMPIRE STATE EXPRESS The New Empire State Express Again New York central makes transportation history with a new streamlined Empire State Express Her is really a new way to travel- new in luxury - new in the relaxation and pleasure it offers you. Built of stainles steel with interiors as comfortable as they are beautiful. smart solarium observation ; tavern lounge and dining cars. all seats reserved in Parlour Cars and Reclining Seat Coaches. Same low fares ! Westbound
This train travelled accross the TH&B in southern Ontario as a shortcut between Ny and Detroit. This was listed in the New york Central's/ michigan centrals time table dated November 30 1941. The service started in service westbound on Dec 7 1941 and eastbound Dec 8 1941. Note the start dates for the train. I imagine that it did not get much fanfare.
Hi Tom and all.
A round please RUTH..
TOM It was great to talk to you yesterday I hope you feel better real soon.
I had to go out this morning and we are going down to the bride's mom soon so I though I would post my photo- day photos today before I have a good read of the posts since I was last in the bar.
Part 2 of the Rocket 150 at Rainhill in 1980.
One of the stars of the West Coast 'Race to the North' in 1892, London & North Western Railway 2-4-0 No 790 'Hardewick' appeared as well as at Shildon, this time with some L&NWR coaches in tow.
A Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway 0-6-0 Saddle tank No 752. This locomotive carried the LMS number 11456.
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LMS 'Jinty' 0-6-0 tank No 7298.A 1924 post grouping developement of the Midland Raiway 3F of 1899. The standard LMS switching loco.
We talked about 0-6-0 tender locomotives at the bar recently, here are two examples..The first one is another development of a MR design the LMS 4F No 4027 the first locomotive in the LMS batch, a NRM loco.
Great Western 0-6-0 No 3205 a Collett 1930 design.The only survivor of a class of 120 locomotives.
Nick should like this one. Somerset & Dorset 2-8-0 wearing its LMS livery and number 13809 wearing a Pines Express headboard.
Well RUTH sorry about the quick visit so another round please, have a good weekend all..
Pete.
Good evening Leon , yes I did make it back in didn't think I would originally.I see that with dabossman under the weather it's been a dismal day here at the bar by the sidng. I think just a small personal pizza tonight with a plain Jane Canadian. I'll save round money for another day when there will be more folks stopping in.
Pete- Some nice shots today all good looking loco's. Nice to see some ones with tenders on board.What's this about you not being around for another weekend . I don't know,we'll have to consultthe employee handbook reguarding the amount of weekend days off. Guy must think he's retired or something
Well since it's a bit slow here's a couple more shots from the lost roll for everyone.
CN GP40-2's laying over at Battlecreek
A CN train on the move through Aurora Ill
GT train at Delray JCT in Detroit
enjoy
All right Leon another Canadian please. Here is another re-roll for an early start to encore saturday. It's already Saturday here.Some more local to me train stuff, hope everyone enjoys it.
CLASSIC STEAM # 31 THE TH&B's WATERFORD SUBDIVISION The original concept of the Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Railway was to serve American Intrests by building a link between Buffalo via Hamilton into Toronto.The line would start from a juntion point with the Michigan Central in Welland Ontario.From there it would run through Hamilton and onto Toronto via running rights on the GT at Bayview jct in Burlington Ontario ( known as Hamilton West by the CPR/TH&B ). This is a bit ironic as the TH&B was bult to break the GT's monopoly on traffic through Hamilton.Another branch of the TH&B would lead west of Hamilton, pass through Brantford, and conect back to the Michigan Central at Waterford Ontario, thus tapping the farm and industrial traffic of this area as well, also challenging the might of the GT in that part of the province. No fewer than four existing railway companies had their fingers in the TH&B pie from the beginning. These were the New York Central,Michigan Central, The Canada Southern( both NYC subsidiaries ) and the Canadian Pacific, the CPR's chunk was 27% of the TH&B.Whereas the two American controlled companies the MC and the CASO, cut accross southern Ontario from Buffalo to Detroit,neither had access to the large urban markets of Toronto or Hamilton.The TH&B would provide them that access.In the peninsular part of Niagara, the TH&B became the shortest route between Toronto and Buffalo.Today that section of the TH&B remains in use as the CPR's Welland and Hamilton subdivisions.The line west of Hamilton to Waterford is no longer in use by the original company. It was in 1892, that the TH&B purchased the existing route of the Brantford Waterloo & Lake Erie Railway which had been completed in 1885 to link Brantford and Waterford. Three years later it was extended into Hamilton. From the TH&B's main facility at Aberdeen yard in Hamilton ( still used today by the CPR ) the train left Hamiltion rumbled accross the tressle at Binkley Hollow and climbed up the 1.5% grade up the forested face of the Niagara escarpment through the Dundas valley to the aptly named Summit Station ( flag stop shelter only ). From here the tracks emerged from the valley onto the gently rolling farmlands on there way to Jerseyville. A MC style station was built here complete with a frieght shed and combination depot waiting room. After passing over several more bridges, and then under the GT at Cainsville the TH&B entered Brantford, where a modern brick CPR style depot waited for them ( still in Brantford now a steakhouse by the casino ).After taking on water the trains would head out along the Grand river through ,more rolling farmlands to Scotland. Between Scotland and Waterford the trains would cross more farmland and cross beneath the hight steel tressel of the Lake Erie and Northern Interurban.Finally stopping at the frame station of the MC on the old CASO ROW.Unlike the eight passenger train a day the TH&B ran on the Peninsula to Toronto line,only two trains served the Waterford branch. In edition to the few carloads of produce and the passengers this line served the heavy industries in and around Brantford, York farm Implements, Cockshutt tractors, Massy Fergusson, White Tractors, a CIL plant in Scotland and many lumber yards and coal dealers.As roads were improved through the area and car travel became more of the norm the passenger trains were withdrawn and ended in 1960.Freight service lasted until 1989 when the route was abandonned.Not entirly due to traffic downturns either, some of the farm equipment plants did close but other industries had oppened in it's their place.A land slippage along a section of fill ( caused by farm run off and the run off from a large carwash ) washed out the fill along the Grand River near Waterford. The CPR who now 100% owned the TH&B ( this occured in the 60's when the NYC was in it's death throws )felt that it wasn't worth repairing the line due to it's lower traffic density.The trackage in Brantford was connected to the CN yard at their Station ( VIA Station ) and CN and local railink continue the service to the plants,still several thousand carloads a year !Trackage through Jerseyville and Cainsville are still operated by Railink who run the steel slab trains to and from Stelco's Nanticoke Plant. The Jerseyville and Summit stations have been moved to Westfield Pioneer Village where they have been restored as part of that historic site in the villiage of Rockton.
Two shots of the preserved TH&B Concolidation 103 at Westerfield Pioneer Villiage.It's displayed in front of the old Jersyville Station.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, a #3 special, please! Curly fries would taste good.
Nice day here in the desert. Maybe a little bit too windy, but... Kind of slow day at the Bar by the Siding.
Tom – I am sure you are right about $4 gasoline and people’s driving habits. But I thought 3,200 miles would make a pretty bad dent in my wallet considering my trip to the old country in August. Being in the “chips” and you are not talking about potaoes? Hmm, I wonder what the heck you are talking about? Hmm. I know I have shown this picture before,but maybe all the snow will make you feel a little bit better!?!In the 1920’s.
Sent a mail.CM3 – They are running freight trains every day on that track but at a very low rate of speed. I have never seen the black bag being chained to Pete’s wrist. maybe he has some kind of an electronic device sounding an alarm in case it gets more than 5 inches from him. Rob – I thought the roads in the 30’s were not like they are today. It was probably much cheaper to take the bus than the interurban. The gas price is going up 2-4 cents/gallon every day now. It is crazy. I don’t know how much the bag agent knows about Pete’s use of the bag as a seat cushion. I don’t want him to get into any trouble so I am not going to say anything. No professionally done photo for my 2500th trip to Cracker Barrel. I was feautured on their website for 3 years starting in 2003. That is enough. A free meal is better. Empire State Express was still running in 1954. Left Grand Central Terminal at 9:00 AM every day. In the opposite direction it arrived to the same station at 9:30 PM.Thanks for the photos from the lost roll! The TH&B’s Waterford Subdivision, partly owned by NYC and Michigan Central!?! So that is how they (NYC and MC) made it possible to run Empire Express to Toronto? Interesting! Nice looking locomotive, #103! Pete – A nice collection of steam locomotives! 1980, that is 28 years ago! I noticed that the top locomotive was equipped with four signal lights, but the rest had only one each (in different positions). What decided what number of lights to use and the positions of them? C&NW class R-1, #1385 , 4-6-0. Mid-Continent Railway Museum, North Freedom, WI.
Well good day and top o` the mornin to yez-just a quick first post to put up the set list for tonights show-the band are in fine fettle and the big amplifiers have been dusted down ready.
Right-off with Boris,copperkettle and the girls to deck the streets with green & orange bunting-back for a spot of lunch and a pint hopefully...
Cracking pix yesterday everybody-will settle down for a proper browse later when the small one is packed off to a party
P.S-TOM-hope you`re feeling better old mate.........
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Still feeling like a penny waiting for change . . . but figured I'd best put my best foot forward ‘n get this out <yes, Boris - I type with my toes!> <geesh>
Help yourself to the breakfast buffet - coffee 'n pastries!
TWO CONTESTs UNDERWAY - Both CLOSED for entries!!
When will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post
Participants:
(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)
(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)
(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)
(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)
(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)
(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)
(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)
WHO will make the 4,000th reply at the bar AND when
(1) Pete sez Rob on Mar 22nd
(2) Rob sez Pete on Mar 16th
(3) Eric sez Allan on Mar 21st
(4) CM3 Shane sez Rob on Mar 13th
(5) Ron sez Rob on Mar 10th
(6) Allan sez Pete on Mar 15th
Comments from the Proprietor
For anyone interested in the cyber whereabouts of some of our PG <periphery guys> - do a SEARCH. You may be surprised . . . but then again, probably not. "Our" Place is first ‘n foremost with our regulars, but not so with those who zip in ‘n out . . . Fergie is back at sea, by the by.
Page 197 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:46 AM: You WIN the bet! I couldn't look a beer in the "eye," much less a case. Did take a belt of ‘something warm' the other evening - stopped the coughing spasms - but then made me feel even worse <probably a reaction with the meds>. <arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh> Thanx for the well wishes . . . Figure I'll be okay by the Rendezvous <grin>!
Scenic Route info conjures up images - lots of images of great looking streamliners, loaded with passengers heading to hither ‘n yon - ahhhhhh, if only . . .
Appreciate the visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 198 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:34 AM ‘n 10:44 AM: In with a twofer to help keep things alive here at the Saloon by the Siding! Way to go!
Responded to your Email response to my response . . . <huh> Will say this up front - from mid-August on, the bride is back in class . . . <barf>
Now wait a minute - I've traveled with Wolfman Pete on several occasions ‘n NEVER saw him SIT on his "black bag." Good Gawd Gertie - with what he's got inside <imagination takes hold> sitting on "it" would be the last thing to do. No, one does NOT sit on those things one cherishes! <hmmmmmm> Gotta work on that phraseology . . . .
Seems like yesterday when the cry went out - let's keep "our oil" for ourselves. Can't fault Canadians for feeling the same way. The natural resources of one's land first "belong" to the people of that land <I know that would most certainly spur an opposite point of view - but here at the bar, it's just my OH-PIN-YUN!> So anyway, the U.S. capped its wells . . . we can't get Congress to authorize drilling here or there ‘n meanwhile the rest of the world has us over a barrel <no pun intended>. Makes me wonder if someone has been asleep at the wheel since the FIRST oil embargo in the 1970s . . . . <arrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh>
Greenwood foto was the result of luck . . . couldn't have planned for that one, eh So sorry that the "one" I took in the subway came out so blurry - that was one where I snapped it off as a train was coming in - looked great on the view finder, but when viewed on the ‘puter, looked horrible. Tried all sorts of remedies, but nothing worked. <groan>
Holistic healing, eh About this point, a dancer rattling this ‘n that would do me in. The bride tried it . . . <uh oh>
Oh yeah, that Empire State Express looks a bit familiar . . . . wonderin' if I did one of those in my Nostalgia Passenger Trains series . . . will have to check. At any rate, nicely done ‘n makes one wish for a return to those times, eh
Most kind of you to drop that twenty on us . . . I think Ruth put it in the "box" as we've had so few at the bar . . . Many thanx for the Posts ‘n chat!
Page 198 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:59 PM: "In" with CHEERS for the gang <so few of us that there are>.
Spate of 6 fotos very well done ‘n will tide us over ‘til your return . . . which BETTER not be late Monday! <uh oh> By the by, when did you take those photos
Well wishes ‘n ROUND most appreciated!
Page 198 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:01 PM ‘n 11:31 PM: Back with yet another twofer - what are you trying do Become another "20 fingers" Good start to the ENCORE! Saturday though . . .
Nice spate of "lost roll" fotos . . .
So at least Lars wasn't the only Manager we've had who was "on" to Wolfman Pete, eh To hear him explain it <every 3rd word intelligible, mind ya> he makes it appear as if WE are making this up. <yikes> Go for it, Rob - the resources of Inspector Clueless of the local constabulary‘n Mr. Doyle <PI> are yours when needed . . .
Many thanx for the outstanding support . . . your larger dipper is hangin' on your "hook" - go fer it!
Saturday - March 15th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 198 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1 AM: Your Email with flight data received ‘n responded to . . . thanx!
I don't believe any of us needs to be an economist to at least put a finger on part of the problem with petrol prices: Speculators ‘n the falling value of the dollar <US> . . . so "they" will get what "they" can ‘n "we'll" pony up . . . <barf>
Perhaps it's just me this day, but I can't make heads or tails out of that winter foto . . .
Never heard of North Freedom, WI - but like the foto!
You just have to witness Wolfman Pete's "attachment" to the "black bag." It's almost compulsive in nature . . . can't seem to carry on without it. Hmmmmmm, I wonder what he keeps in it that is sooooooooooo important ‘n precious Little kids have their "blankey" - big kids have their . . . <ooooooops, this is a family site, eh> ‘n Juneau has his squeaky toys. Something for everyone . . .
Many thanx for the visit ‘n good cheer!
Page 198 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:18 AM: Youse guyz are gonna play ALL of those Sounds like a great time in the offing . . .
I put up a link for Whiskey in the Jar some Pages ago <you didn't pick up on it> - never mind - just one of my favorites. Don't like the ruination of it by the modern groups - like it the way it was meant to be done . . . Just my two cents
Well wishes appreciated along with your visit 'n good CHEER!
Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Not sure I'll be back this day . . .
Well back for lunch-I`ll try a Belfast fry with all the trimmings & a pint of green dyed Harp lager to chase it down please (experiments with green Guinness proved both messy & unpleasant )
Looks like Mentor is brimfull of happy revellers even at this early hour-The Mentor Hibernians apprentices pipe band are marching south whilst the Sons of Maeve silver marching band are heading north-careful management should see all parties at the zeppelin field in time for the annual Hurley match ( a sport so violent that it has been incorporated into special forces basic training programmes ).
O.K-looks like about time to fire up the spit-roast -looking at the size of that pig it could take a while................
TOM-sorry you are still under the cosh old friend-sounds like one of those viral `flu kinda things--NO FUN -Hadn`t meant to overlook your mention of `Whiskey`-it was on my list but slipped through the net-like you,I prefer the less messed with versions-Thin Lizzy`s `60`s classic is about as far from the original as it should go-we stick to a more traditional 2/4 time signature..
ROB- A grand spread of C.N/G.T power
PETE-Likewise with the Shildon collection-yes that 7f does look rather fine
ERIC-That winter shot has me shivering...............
Right-back to it-will work backwards through post as the day progresses-time to light a fire under that pig (and one under Boris,on general principle..)
Heres a 20 to cover beers for the boys as they arrive (and a medicinal brandy or two for the guvnor )-enjoy the day !
Later,
Mallow-Tralee trains cross at Killarney,Co Kerry-a typical piece of Irish whimsy-one train has to back out onto a long headshunt before reversing ...........enjoy
Just a quick update-apparently the O`Clancy brothers (Liam,Donal,Eammon,Liam & Mikey) have crawled out of their hovel and come to party-hopefully they will follow the trail of pork rinds and Guinness bottles straight to the lock-up (One of the better integrated Mentor families-they made the transition from the squalid bogs of Munster to the equally foetid depths of Mentor Hollow with enviable ease.....).
Wont attempt a match commentary as this k/board not equipped for Gaelic........stay loose
Good day to all. A round of drinks on me. Due to differences of opinion between the management, and me this will be my final visit to the tavern by the tracks. My agenda is much different from that presented on this site. I am not a trolley kind of guy, but there are segments that I find most interesting never the less. The same can be said about classic trains. To me, a little goes a long way. I'm not into old timetables, three stooges, inanimate characters like Leon and Boris or classic trains of the past. My biggest interest is electric engines, past present and future. Steam is second followed in no particular order by bridges, unusual trains and general topics of interest. The latter may not have anything to do with classic trains, but in a real world bar setting, many other topics other than trains would be discussed.
I must thank Eric for turning me on to the Swedish electric engine, which I am now constructing a 1/8 scale model. I also want to thank all who contributed much needed data about the engine. I could not have gotten as far as I have without their help. I also want to thank all those from across the oceans who provided us all with the "other" side of railroading, not just the "American" view. I want to thank Tom for his diligent work to keep this tavern going. He makes a valid point about participation, but in my defense, I view the site as I would a real world bar. I come in, spread a few greetings, buy a round and sit on my stool. There's no time limit, no pressure to chat. I listen and if appropriate, chime in with my own views. I'm not pressured to return every day or to explain my absence. If a comment is directed toward me, I'm obliged to answer, but I don't acknowledge general comments directed toward any one in particular. I try to research topics, not necessarily railroad related, that I think would be of interest, based on comments made by others regarding such things as food, cars, ships, music, etc. This research sometimes takes me several hours to dig up and present, hence the long absences. I do have a life other than on the computer. I have household chores, model building and many other things that a retired person has to do in his daily life.
Lastly, let me just say, due to my age, (73), I don't take kindly to criticism. It would not be tolerated in a real world bar and it will not be tolerated here. As I see it, "Our place" is being run by one person's rules and that doesn't fly with me. I demand the freedom to say what I think whether anyone agrees with me or not. Over and OUT.
DD1
I've had some STRANGE things happen on these Forums but this is a first . . .
Just Posted 12 fotos - got "credit" for it as my cyber name 'n time of Post appeared. But the area where the Post should be is totally BLANK.
As stated earlier, NOTHING is going right for me today - 'n feeling as I do, well perhaps a sledge hammer . . . <nah> <groan>
So, I'll try one more time - if that doesn't work - see y'all on Monday!
Here it comes - one more time - my ENCORE foto display for this Photo Posting Saturday! All of these have been seen before - but thought you might enjoy 'em again!
(3) Toronto bound! <Rendezvous I>
(4) Rob 'n Ted at Toronto's Union Station <Rendezvous I>
(5) Doug arriving downtown St. Louis <Rendezvous II>
(6) Doug 'n Pete <Rendezvous II>
(7) Doug <background> 'n Eric <foreground> checking out the Can-Am Railway's Mountain Village <Rendezvous II>
(8) Pete is <or isn't> at the throttles of the S-Capades! <Rendezvous II>
(9) VIA Rail Renaissance Sleeper at Montreal, QC, Canada <Canadian Rail Adventure 2007>
(10) That's stealthy Pete! <Canadian Rail Adventure 2007>
(11) Narrow passageway in the Renaissance sleeper! <Canadian Rail Adventure 2007>
(12) A blurry ending to day one! <Canadian Rail Adventue 2007>
Now, if the first batch should mysterioulsy appear - I'll try to delete 'em . . . which they have 'n I did! <crazy>
EMPORIUM Theatre listings tomorrow . . .
See y'all on Monday!
G'day <again> Gents!
Yeah, I know I said no more for this day . . . however, that problem was driving me nuts. I believe I figured it out . . . things look okay now with my 12 foto spate . . . surely didn't the 1st or 2nd times . . .
Problem was with a PREVIOUS Post of mine that had formatting errors - I couldn't find 'em, but there was a message stating this each time I tried to send it. I finally retyped it over again in my WP 'n it went out - BUT it was a WIDE-PAGE-PHENOM. Once I deleted that Post - the following ones cleared up. Meaning my 1st foto spate magically appeared - along with the 2nd one with all fotos looking as they should. Confused Don't be . . . just thought I'd share this with any of you who find these things challenging!
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So, here's the Post that I deleted which was prior to the foto spate . . . .
It appears an appropriate time to ENCORE! some info from Page 1 of this Thread. Information that is germaine to the way we do things 'round here 'n have done 'em that way since the inception of "Our" Place on 12 Apr 2005.
Anyway, "count it" as an ENCORE! from me . . . <grin>
As requested by Kalmbach, the old Thread has been shut down and the new begins today, January 1st, 2007.What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains." The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains. All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.Objective: Have fun!Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch. Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh Final "stats" for the "old" Thread at mid-night!Replies: 9,013Views: 163,151 Pages: 451 For those who may require it, the link to the "old" Thread is:http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587 Tom (siberianmo) Proprietor, "Our" Place
As requested by Kalmbach, the old Thread has been shut down and the new begins today, January 1st, 2007.
What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.
History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.
Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains."
The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains.
All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.
Objective: Have fun!
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch.
Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.
Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Final "stats" for the "old" Thread at mid-night!
Replies: 9,013
Views: 163,151
Pages: 451
For those who may require it, the link to the "old" Thread is:
http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
Tom (siberianmo)
Proprietor, "Our" Place
AWWWWRIGHHHTTTTT-Well Hello baby.......................................................what cho doin later sweet thang.....ah Jaysus,wheres me feckin glasses,I cant see a dam ting in here-roight-dis is me band-We`re called Big River and so is dis song----3,4-go
O.K guys brace yourselves-we just had a real strange one for our first booking of the night so the guys are all ready to be let out of the cage-oh lord theres gonna be some strangeness tonight-I think I may have hit the ceiling for weirdness tonight already-there was a wee old lady there tonight-sat at the back for a few songs,then got up to dance,threw off her jacket and was on the floor with the skin tight leather strides,translucent blouse and hunch back-also the yellow skin tone of somebody with nothing to lose-great to see people letting go
Although,that said-on this particular night,when Wales have just won the most important possible trophy,outside of the world cup,in international rugby,I fully expect to be kept awake all night by various sons of the village trying to get home-and why not-PARTY TIME-"Dis one`s called `Mean eyed cat`"
So-would yez like a few songs from the old country ??-steady now....jaysus,watch me guitar there..............who let him in here ?...............
Right -Tony is gonna play some wonderful Irish songs now-the rest of us are going for a quick pint,a wee and a crafty smoke.............
O.K-playtime-This is where Simon and myself swap instruments for a song-a special request for our ever genial host-as good a cover version as we can manage of "Whiskey in the jar"---
da da da-dada (dadaladadadada) da dada (dadaladadadadada).....................................
As I was walking over,the Cork and Kerry mountains....................................
Wait for my daddyo,wait for my daddyo theres whiskey in the jar...
That first line just cries out to have Phil Lynott singing it...........bless his memory-another lost talent-so many gone.....
O.K boys-its country time,lets turn them amps up `til they squeal and see if we cant find that front of the beat 2/4 groove we had going last time..
O.K-Blue Train-in `A`---lovely -1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & :-check the you tube video
Ah-looks like Tony needs to sit down for a minute or two so we will have a few minutes of free-form jazz-just to shake people up..O.K guys -so what?. . . . . . . . come on then Simon-yeah,so what,from the top.............go
Well good evening Leon made it in just before H&H took to their favourite mode of transportation at any rate I'll snag a small steak and a regularly coloured guiness I can't imagine the failed green concotion Nick alluded to
Eric-I have to say that is a cold looking and feeling picture , liked it though Those early roads in the 30's were barley passable oil sprayed rutted affairs , likely more passable in winter when they were frozen . Any timetables I've seen from the time's were showing prices not all that different between the modes , the buses were about a dollar cheaper but ran less often and carried less passengers.
So you were an internet star for CB were you , I guess then the free lunch is a good thing
Nick- That's quite the play list,should be a good concert however. I've noted that the Mentor fusliers will be on hand in case the "games" get out of hand. Why does the roast pig bare an unsettling resemblance to Boris's clan ( possibly why he's hiding in his shed )
Nice picture sir loved it
Glad you enjoyed the GT stuff 've found a few more that were on the railimages account that was lost so hopefully I can get them loaded up to the "bucket" sooner as oposed to later.
Tom-Well not to worry we can work exporail in when and where it fits all skeds Great pictures even if they didn't behave the first time you attempted to post them. that sort of thing used to happen to me before I switched over to the higher speed internet,still does occationally. I wonder if it's a comaptibility issue in the forums software, a random glitch as it were.
Thanks for the use of the large gold plated dipper, I shall dip once a month for the next while.Inspector Clueless has his crack servailance team on the stealthy one <uh oh> if nothing else it will give them practice,No Boris they are not here to fix the cracks in the plaster he comes out of his shed for that
Seeing the "ground rules " again is not neccessaritly a bad thing Did Fergie say how long he will be out on the briny tossed
Well well looks like Nick and the boyz have the place jumping, that or the Mentor narrow guage either derailed or at least suffered a boiler explosion At least the crowds happy including that rather frightfull women grinding against the mike stand <uh oh >Anywho I think I'll grab another guiness and hangout near the back to escape any potential tear gas or water cannon barrages should the concert kick up another notch.
Another encore to end my Saturday participation, a third and final TH&B bit
Berkshire's In Ontario Classic Steam #25 As stated before the Berkshire class steam locomotive was the NKP's steam era claim to fame. The unusual on the fairly regular steam roster upto that point. It was a wheel arrangement that did not see wide spread use, but it did however make it up accross the boarder on another anachronistic RR the Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo RY itself a NYC controlled company. In feb, 1928 , the TH&B placed its order with the Montreal Locomotive Works for locomotives #201 and 202, 2-8-4 Berkshire Class locomotives.With their frieght tonnage increasing during the roaring 20's the TH&B's standard 100 series Consolidations were straining to keep up the fast freight schedules, and the Railway was desperatly seeking suitable power for it's "mountain district " ( Niagara Escarpment ). The TH&B's steam philosophy never wandered too far from that of it's parent co the NYC.It was the NYC that had ordered a new type of locomotive from Lima with the 2-8-4 config for trials on their Bostan and Albany Railroad where they would face the heavy twisting mountain grades through the Berkshire MTN's, and thus giving the locomotive type it's name.In 1926 the NYC placed it's order for 45 of these monsters and assigned them to its B&A railroad. They became classes A-1a and A-1b, with the road numbers 1400-1444 inclusive. Then along came the TH&B. The problem for them, of coarse was to reduce the times taken to get freight up the Niagara escarpment between Kinnear Yard and Vinemount. A grade of only 1.04% but a rise of 216 feet in only 4.41 miles. The existing Consolidations with a starting tractive effort of 45,780lbs were being quickly outclassed by the loads. In July of 1927 the TH&B rented a NYC H-10b Mikado 335 to test on this route. Between Sept and October they rented B&A 1433 a two month old Berk to also test on this route. It was decided that the Berks were the right fit and two were promptly ordered.For reasons of economy it was decided to build the locomotives in Canada, Lima had no Canadian subsidiary so tooling would have been prohibitivly expensive for such a small order. As luck would have it Alco had just finished an order for 12 Berks of their design for the C&NW so the patterns were promptly rushed to MLW Alco's Canadian wing . On July 8th and 12th 1928,201, and 202 arrived on the property. 201 going immediatly into service and 202 did a public display for the company for a few days. The Berks regular assignment was the starlight freight run between Hamilton and Michigan Centrals Victoria Yard in Fort Erie Ontario, a 50 mile run. In 1931 the eastern terminus for this run was the TH&B / NYC Montrose Yard in Niagara falls Ontario ( Now a casino )They were run steadily for 25 years ending up being scrapped in 1953 with only the bell from 201 surving and on display in the Steam and tech museum in Ottawa. Specs on TH&B 201, 202 L - 87 feet 51/4 inches in overall length 621,000 lbs at full load 393.000 lbs just locomotive weight 150 long inch fire box 96 inches wide 7,323 sq ft of heating surface 4,742 sq inches was the heating tubes 2,243 sq inches of super heating flues 240psi tractive effort of 69,000lbs 63 inch drivers with Baker valve gear driving 14" cylnders In 1946 they were rebuilt with D2 duplex stokers to get the 16t of coal from the tender into that huge firebox. The locomotive was capable of 65 miles per hour and they did handle passenger trains on the escarpment when the mikes or pacifics were unavailable. Rob
Wow, a lot of nois... sorry, music tonight! Leon, Saturday night, time for my Filet Mignon with mushrooms! Keith's!
A lot of people and the entire track gang here. I saw Boris' shed has only three walls standing tonight!
Nick – I am just back from tonight’s show! Well done! Good songs! Will this be a weekly tradition? Same about me, I can’t stand snow. But I wanted to make the boss happy, he (and Juneau) loves it. Nice photo from Killarney. At least I have heard the name of that town before! Tom – You don’t know where to find North Freedom, WI? Where have you been all your life? North Freedom is 6-7 miles west of Baraboo and Baraboo is 40 some miles north of Madison. The winter photo shows military personnel helping digging out that steam locomotive stuck in the snow. Rendezvous photos! Reminds me there is only 60 days to Our Place’s 3rd Annual Rendezvous!! Photo 8, Pete at the throttles of the S-Capades! He is at the throttles and I remember he was saying over and over again, “Look, no hands! No hands!”The passageway in the Renaissance sleeper is really very narrow. I guess one almost has to walk sideways. Blurry ending?!? Hmmm. Ron – Very sad to hear your decision to leave the bar. I think you and I have at least one thing in common, electric locomotives! I hope I’ll get a chance one day to see a photo of your class D locomotive. Rob – That snowy picture was taken by my grampa in the 1920’s. I am glad I wasn’t there. I wouldn’t call it being a star but after being interviewed in the local paper there were a few people that actually recognized me. Unbeliveable. Thanks for the article on TH&B’s Berkshires! Interesting! So they had only two of them? Maybe CM3 knows where this is? Somewhere south of Boston. Don’t remember the name of the tower. South Station, Boston. May 1993.Trondheim, Norway. 1968.
Reminder: "Our: Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Another day of rest is upon us ‘n one with a religious significance to many ‘round the world. Good day to reflect . . . not a bad time to get a leg up on the Saturday activity as well!
Page 198 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 10:01 AM ‘n 10:58AM: I cannot recall the last time our Resident Londoner in Wales appeared THRICE on a Saturday morning at the Bar by the Ballast!
From cosh to time zones to hurling:
Never heard of the expression "under the cosh," so I looked it up. Check out this link:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=under+the+cosh
Hmmmmmmmmm, really not ME! <yikes> That ain't ME! <ugh> However, I do know a guy or three who is precisely like that . . . you'd think - oh never mind! <grin>
But then I came up with this link:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/40/messages/646.html
That's more like it!
Hey Nick! Why does your profile indicate your time zone as -6 ???? You're a GMT sorta guy, Mate - go for it! <grin>
Amazing what one picks up from our friend, Nick:
http://www.tompgalvin.com/features/hurling.htm
Never heard of it! Really - ‘n here "me maternal grandma" was from the olde sod . . .
Situation with the "bug" has really had me down - began Sunday <last> but got into full swing by mid-week. Coughing spasms, sneezing, wheezing - you name it. Just a loveRly situation - I'd make a great date! Doc prescribed a couple of meds - just when I think the corner has been turned, along comes another "fit." Even tried a belt of "something warm," but it was only good for a short period - then made me feel worse than before. Can't win for losing . . . Poor Juneau, he just doesn't know what's going on with his "daddy." Funny how animals can pick up on human situations, eh
Liked the train station shot - that has to be your bride ‘n daughter <yes?> Good that they don't let you go off by yourself, otherwise you'd be spending the remainder of your days snapping shots of trains, traveling trains, picking up a living in a club here ‘n there ‘n having a blast. Hmmmmmm, need a Mate ‘Bout the only instrument I can handle is a rubber band stretched between two fixed points. <uh oh> Not really bad at finger-tapping, though - perhaps a latent drummer is "calling" to come out. <nah>
St. Pat's on this side of the pond is Monday - but it has set up a dilemma between the church ‘n the revelers. Seems that holy week has gotten in the way this year, so the "edicts" have been Posted. Here in St. Louis there are TWO parades - one is always on the Saturday before the 17th <going on as I type this> ‘n the other on "the" day - in an area known for Irish heritage <called Dog Town>. Ancient Order of Hibernians makes it a huge event each year ‘n I guess they're unafraid to tackle the "edicts" . . . We'll see if their names appear on the "list" at the Gate to Heaven, eh <grin>
For anyone unfamiliar with the term, "headshunt" - check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headshunt
Many thanx for the 2nd visit - didn't really expect any action on Saturday, much less the morning. Always appreciate your visits ‘n generosity <of course>!
Ah, I see visit #3 has taken place: O'Clancy Brothers you say The only Clancy's I'm familiar with are well known in the U.S. We hear their <early> music all over the dial at this time of year. Check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clancy_Brothers#The_Early_Years
Shine on Brighter was always a favorite of mine . . . If I hear Brennan on the Moor one more time, I'll . . . . <grimace>
Cheers, Mate!
Page 198 - Ron <DD1> at 11:29 AM: "Our" Place visitor - 12 Jul 2007 thru 15 Mar 2008:
Page 198 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 10:39 PM: Live from the Pool Room at "Our" Place - Nick ‘n his Big River Band . . . . let ‘er rip guys <oh, I see you have!>
Page 198 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:54 PM ‘n 11:19 PM: Still not giving up on the April-May timeframe . . . as long as you remain flexible, perhaps something will shake loose. Been thinking of a thing or two ‘n will get an Email off once I begin to feel better. Still pretty much same-ole, same-ole in that department. <groan>
That problem with the Forums I encountered had everything to do with the wide-page-phenom. In my case it happened because I copied directly from a Post of mine RATHER than going to "edit" then copying it. <That's why some Posts from the old Thread come out with the WPP because you cannot use edit since they locked that Thread>. Anyway, in this instance, everything that followed was skewed - can't explain it, but that's what happened. So, when I deleted the Post with the WPP, everything cleared up. Not saying that's the ONLY way to get a WPP, but this time it really caused problems . . . I guess if someone else had Posted after my WPP Post, perhaps it would have shown up - but in my follow-up, all I got was a long, vertical BLANK space <where the 12 fotos should've been>. Strange . . .
Even sent a "heads up" to our Forum's "hall monitor" - but as expected, never did get an acknowledgment . . .
Fergie Nah, I hadn't heard from him - just picked up something he had Posted elsewhere . . . saw him logged in a few times lately 'n got curious.
As always appreciate the reading matter - however, I'm in no shape to tackle it yet, so it's on my "stack o' stuff" for later on . . . thanx, though!
Sunday - March 16th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 198 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2:26 AM: Don't know how or why you've elected to become the night owls of night owls - but you WIN, hands down! <geesh> Good thing Leon has such a mild disposition, along with the galley crew . . . You picked a great nite, though - as Nick ‘n his Marauders <uh oh> were performing to a packed pool room - all the Gentry had found niches for themselves ‘n we spotted quite a few of the Mentor Village notables dancing ‘til the wee hours. I believe Nick described at least one . . .
Interesting spate of fotos. Must say that the shot from the cab of that tower on the left looks to me like so many New England scenes from "back in the day." Majority of my travels were on the New Haven between Grand Central Terminal ‘n New London, CT . . . so, I'm no help. Undoubtedly the coalminer will come forward with an answer!
Liked the Trondheim, Norway shot - very clean station <except for one piece of paper> . . . doubt you'd see anything like that in too many places. Also liked the Kalamazoo foto - what else do they have to welcome <grin>
So why didn't you SAY so Now that you've EXPLAINED it a bit, sure - I'm familiar with North Freedom, WI. <yeah, right>
Thanx for the elaboration on that winter foto from the other day - military personnel, eh Not RR personnel. Hmmmmmmm.
While passageways aboard sleeper cars of "normal size" are a bit tight when two try to pass one another - it's a totally different experience aboard Renaissance. A most interesting way to meet people. <grin>
We'll have to keep any eye on Wolfman Pete <at Rendezvous III> as he sits for his recertification for "Throttleman" of the S-Capades. Glad you let me know . . . <uh oh> And to think Pete thinks so highly of YOU!
Oh, received 'n responded to your Email - thanx! After 5 successive nights in the reclining chair, managed to get into bed for the past two . . . slow progress. <arrrrgggghhhh>
Thanx for the visit, chat, fotos ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Emporium Theatre listings a bit later . . .
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . March 16th thru 22nd: Sweeney Todd (1982) Starring: Angela Lansbury, George Hearn, Cris Groenendaal, Sara Woods & Edmund Lyndeck - and - ENCORE PRESENTATION of Major League (1989) starring Tom Beringer, Charlie Sheen, Margaret Whitton, James Gammon & Corbin Bernson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - A Bird In The Head (1946).
<Note: Major League first shown on Sunday March 26th thru April 1st, 2006>
Sweeney Todd - The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (1982)
PLOT SUMMARY: Times are hard in 1846 London and one must make do. So Nellie Lovett adds something extra to the meat pies she peddles on Fleet Street. The secret ingredient: freshly murdered victims of her partner in crime, barber Sweeney Todd. Composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim refashions a macabre tale into a musical masterwork in this dazzling performance of the 1979 Broadway hit originally staged by Harold Prince. In her Tony-winning role (one of eight the show earned, including Best Musical), Angela Lansbury plays Nellie. George Hearn turns his stage role of twisted Sweeney into an Emmy-winning triumph. The score coils around itself in ever-tightening spirals. The lines ripple with black humor and madness. Enter Sweeney's tonsorial parlor. Attend the tale.
Times are hard in 1846 London and one must make do. So Nellie Lovett adds something extra to the meat pies she peddles on Fleet Street. The secret ingredient: freshly murdered victims of her partner in crime, barber Sweeney Todd. Composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim refashions a macabre tale into a musical masterwork in this dazzling performance of the 1979 Broadway hit originally staged by Harold Prince. In her Tony-winning role (one of eight the show earned, including Best Musical), Angela Lansbury plays Nellie. George Hearn turns his stage role of twisted Sweeney into an Emmy-winning triumph. The score coils around itself in ever-tightening spirals. The lines ripple with black humor and madness. Enter Sweeney's tonsorial parlor. Attend the tale.
<from: amazon.com>
Major League (1989)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Cleveland Indians have gone 34 years without a division title. Team owner Donald Phelps has died, and his snobby wife Rachel Phelps, a former showgirl, has taken over as the new owner. Some in the media think Rachel shouldn't be the owner of a baseball team. Rachel hates Cleveland, so she makes plans to move the Indians to the warmer climate of Miami, Florida, but she can't break the team's lease with Cleveland unless the team's attendance for the season is below 800,000. Rachel's plan is to put together a team so awful that the season attendance will be lower than 800,000. Rachel and general manager Charlie Donovan hire a manager for the Indians Lou Brown, who has been the manager of the minor league Toledo Mud Hens for the past 30 years. Charlie then recruits some misfit players catcher Jake Taylor, who is a major league standout with knee problems, Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn, who is a pitcher who throws wildly, third baseman Roger Dorn, who is a product endorser and former major league star who will do anything to avoid injury, outfielder Willie Mays Hayes, who runs fast enough to steal a lot of bases but can't hit very well, and Pedro Cerrano, who is an outfielder who practices voodoo. As expected, the Indians get off to a slow start, but when they discover that Rachel wants the team to lose so she can move the team, the Indians get their act together and start winning games and raising their attendance, as Jake tries to win back his ex-girlfriend Lynn Wells, and the Indians do what they can to win the division title. Written by Todd Baldridge
The Cleveland Indians have gone 34 years without a division title. Team owner Donald Phelps has died, and his snobby wife Rachel Phelps, a former showgirl, has taken over as the new owner. Some in the media think Rachel shouldn't be the owner of a baseball team. Rachel hates Cleveland, so she makes plans to move the Indians to the warmer climate of Miami, Florida, but she can't break the team's lease with Cleveland unless the team's attendance for the season is below 800,000. Rachel's plan is to put together a team so awful that the season attendance will be lower than 800,000. Rachel and general manager Charlie Donovan hire a manager for the Indians Lou Brown, who has been the manager of the minor league Toledo Mud Hens for the past 30 years. Charlie then recruits some misfit players catcher Jake Taylor, who is a major league standout with knee problems, Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn, who is a pitcher who throws wildly, third baseman Roger Dorn, who is a product endorser and former major league star who will do anything to avoid injury, outfielder Willie Mays Hayes, who runs fast enough to steal a lot of bases but can't hit very well, and Pedro Cerrano, who is an outfielder who practices voodoo. As expected, the Indians get off to a slow start, but when they discover that Rachel wants the team to lose so she can move the team, the Indians get their act together and start winning games and raising their attendance, as Jake tries to win back his ex-girlfriend Lynn Wells, and the Indians do what they can to win the division title. Written by Todd Baldridge
<from: imdb.com>
SHORT: The Three Stooges - A Bird In The Head (1946)
PLOT SUMMARY: Moe, Larry and Curly are three paperhangers who are out of a job after they wreck Mr. Beedle's apartment, but Prof. Panzer offers to take care of them for the rest of their lives. He wants to transplant Curly's brain into Igor, his gorilla!
Moe, Larry and Curly are three paperhangers who are out of a job after they wreck Mr. Beedle's apartment, but Prof. Panzer offers to take care of them for the rest of their lives. He wants to transplant Curly's brain into Igor, his gorilla!
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
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