Okay Leon set em up again.Thank-you. here are a few new found old pictures of mine.This is the first installment of six.These are all shots from the summer of 1995. I found a roll of slide film I took that year and I just had it developed yesterday pays to clean out desk drawers once in awhile
A CN GP40-2W leading a train past Robbins East ( rural Welland Ontario )
A couple rebuilt CN GP9's leading a train up the old canal subdivision towards Port Colbourne.This was th last summer CN operated this route now run by Trillium Rail.
A SOO Line SD60 leading a CP train out of the Welland Tunnel summer of 95 teh first time Soo units started seeing regular use on CP trains in Canada.
An ex Milwaukee road SD40 on the same train comming out of the Welland Tunnel
An ex MILW GP40 heading through Fenwick Ontario on a CP train a leased Boston and Main Geep is also in the consist.
A CP C424 in the consist of a train that has just left CP's Montrose yard in Niagara falls Ontario.The train is passing the Mount Carmel Cathedral on it's way to the International bridge,all this trackage was removed early in 2000 including the entire Montrose yard.
More next week
Rob
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I'll have a number 3 Super Special with all the extras! Keith's, please.
Not many here today, but a lot to read. I must say I found the article on Northern Pacific fascinating!
Tom – I guess what VIA is showing in that picture is a train from the all Budd days. I must say that changing from driving on one side of road to the other side was not that big deal. The first number of days they had very restrictive speed limits. But it certainly was different to drive the roads on the opposite side to what one was used to. I thought you were going to like that photo from north of the Arctic Circle. Plenty of snow. Interesting info on Northern Pacific! Bankrupt a few times and a lot of other mistakes. But they survived until they merged with Burlington. A lot of interesting reading! Interesting books! Nick – It seems like you have a tough job getting everything in order on your railroad. Good luck and don’t let Boris try to help you. Rob – No there was no training before we changed to right hand side driving. Just took it easy and drove carefully. Thanks for the photos! A real mix of locomotives! What was the reason for removing the trackage to the International Bridge and the Montrose Yard? Just going out of business?
Some randomly picked photos.
Point of Rocks, MD.
Some older Swedish electrics. Photo: Gustav Wadsten.
Quiz: Where?
Older narrow gauge (891 mm) car. Sweden 1968.
Old electric, narrow gauge (891 mm) from the 1890's. Stockholm Transit Museum.
Eric
"Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays
<but go ahead 'n slip your message thru the mail slots on the doors>
G'day Gents!
Yes, the bar is CLOSED on Sundays, but thought it a good time to catch up on the admin work ‘round here <alas, no more Lars ‘n <ahem> his efforts!> Anyway, noted a few nite time visitors on Saturday . . .
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Saturday - Mar 1st: <all times Central standard>
Page 191 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 9:10 PM: FIRST ONE "in" since opening up on Saturday - can you believe it My, my - how things have changed over these 3 years.
Sold a guitar Sounds like a serious transaction to me, for unless I've totally mischaracterized you, parting with a "friend" couldn't have been easy.
Your comments regarding dodging blobs of molten lead brought a smile ‘n some remembrance. Beneath the Can-Am Railway lies a ‘world' of wiring, solder joints ‘n assorted electrical gadgets. At a point of sheer frustration from getting burned and being unable to use my two hands to full advantage, a thought occurred. Why not use those solderless connectors I read about "somewhere." So off to our local Radio Shack <electronics> store I went and returned with a few score of ‘em . . . they worked! Took the pain away from trying to solder while on one's back in an area more comforting to a Lilleputian than not. <yikes>
I'm in the throws of constructing a subway system beneath Can-Am City . . . nothing super elaborate, just two ovals of track to accommodate those subway cars I displayed over on the Original Thread ‘n here as well. Anyway, the plan has been modified just a bit - instead of using ‘shadow boxes' to view the passing trains <4 cars to a consist> I've decided to construct one portion of it in the open <beneath the street of course> so that the station will be visible to those viewing the layout. Also have a device that will stop the trains for a set period of time <delay circuitry> then send ‘em on their merry way. Should be a fine addition to the set-up. I'm a looooooooong way from completion - but want to get it done before Rendezvous III <arrivals on May 14th>.
Anyway, the point of this diatribe is simply to say that working beneath the board <again> but with even less space, is a nightmare. The subway foundation is suspended from beneath the train board which makes the "crawl space" tighter. <Arrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.> Of course I'm trying to make it so that the majority of what I need to do can be accomplished in my work area - then slide the finished product into place. Easier said than done, Mate - easier said than done! <arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh>
There will be fotos . . . but all in good time - want to get ‘er completed before displaying ‘em.
Many thanx for stopping by ‘n sharing a thought or three with us. ROUND(s) appreciated as well!
Page 191 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:07 AM ‘n 10:21 AM: There's HOPE - I've got several rolls of film from my "former" life that I've never developed. So, all I need to do is drag my sorry butt over to the local establishment that still does this kind of thing ‘n get ‘er done!
Your foto spread is top drawer - nicely done!
Had a visitor in the Haus the other nite - neighbor lady ‘n her young daughter. Anyway, the bride took ‘em down stairs <for whatever the purpose> where of course the dominant feature is the Can-Am Trainroom ‘n layout(s). She was like a kid in a candy store - just briskly walking hither ‘n yon, exclaiming this ‘n that - leaving with "Thanx for sharing!"
That comment sent my hackles UP - why, I wonder do I dislike that saying so much I didn't ‘share' - that's a "newism" in the lexicon that I dislike - immensely. Must be teaching that nonsense in our schools these days, along with "conflict resolution" ‘n the like. <arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh> What was wrong with belting someone between the chops to get a point across Yeah, I know - it's me ‘n "my kind" who've made this old world such a terrible place . . . <barf>
Don't know if you've inhaled some of that "inflatable repair glue" from that kit Boris has - OR have been "into" the "funny stuff" <behind the bar> - BUT - that ENCORE! of mine was Northern Pacific - not Southern Pacific <Espee> . . . . <geesh>
Renaissance bedroom cars all have private toilet facilities. Only difference between ‘em is the "deluxe" has a shower whereas the other does not. The shower is a joke - an absolute joke. It's nothing but a hand held "thing" that turns the toilet area into a water fall <depending on where you point the spray head>. Then when done, if you were foolish enough to have any personal items in there with you - well, they got wet! Don't "spring" for the shower for a one night journey to Halifax . . . ain't worth the extra bucks.
Budd bedroom <Chateau ‘n Manor> cars all have private toilets and common area showers - which are spacious and very functional.
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . March 2nd thru 8th: Gods and Generals (2003) Starring: Jeff Daniels, Stephen Lang, Mark Aldrich, Robert Duvall & George Allen (III) - and - Heist (2001) Starring: Gene Hackman, Danny DeVito, Delroy Lindo, Sam Rockwell, Rebecca Pidgeon. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Uncivil War Brides (1946).
Gods and Generals (2003)
PLOT SUMMARY: The more you know about the Civil War, the more you'll appreciate Gods and Generals and the painstaking attention to detail that Gettysburg writer-director Ronald F. Maxwell has invested in this academically respectable 220-minute historical pageant. In adapting Jeffrey Shaara's 1996 novel (encompassing events of 1861-63, specifically the Virginian battles of Bull Run, Fredericksburg, and Chancellorsville), Maxwell sacrifices depth for scope while focusing on the devoutly religious "Stonewall" Jackson (Stephen Lang), whose Confederate campaigns endear him to Gen. Robert E. Lee (Robert Duvall, giving the film's most subtle performance). Battles are impeccably recreated using 7,500 Civil War re-enactors and sanitized PG-13 violence, their authenticity compromised by tasteful discretion and endless scenes of grandiloquent dialogue. Still, as the first part of a trilogy that ends with The Last Full Measure, this is a superbly crafted, instantly essential film for Civil War study. For all its misguided priorities, Gods and Generals is a noble effort, honoring faith and patriotism with the kind of reverence that has all but vanished from American film - but provides abundant proof that historical accuracy is no guarantee of great storytelling. --Jeff Shannon
The more you know about the Civil War, the more you'll appreciate Gods and Generals and the painstaking attention to detail that Gettysburg writer-director Ronald F. Maxwell has invested in this academically respectable 220-minute historical pageant. In adapting Jeffrey Shaara's 1996 novel (encompassing events of 1861-63, specifically the Virginian battles of Bull Run, Fredericksburg, and Chancellorsville), Maxwell sacrifices depth for scope while focusing on the devoutly religious "Stonewall" Jackson (Stephen Lang), whose Confederate campaigns endear him to Gen. Robert E. Lee (Robert Duvall, giving the film's most subtle performance). Battles are impeccably recreated using 7,500 Civil War re-enactors and sanitized PG-13 violence, their authenticity compromised by tasteful discretion and endless scenes of grandiloquent dialogue. Still, as the first part of a trilogy that ends with The Last Full Measure, this is a superbly crafted, instantly essential film for Civil War study. For all its misguided priorities, Gods and Generals is a noble effort, honoring faith and patriotism with the kind of reverence that has all but vanished from American film - but provides abundant proof that historical accuracy is no guarantee of great storytelling. --Jeff Shannon
<from: amazon.com>
Heist (2001)
PLOT SUMMARY: Gene Hackman plays the veteran ringleader of a gang of thieves (Delroy Lindo, Ricky Jay and Rebecca Pigeon as Hackman's youngish wife) that pulls off complex heists for a despicable fence (Danny DeVito). After stiffing the gang on a jewelry robbery, DeVito forces the gang to go after a Swiss gold shipment and to use his son (Sam Rockwell) in the crime. Mistrust runs rampant as double-crosses threaten the split-second operation.
Gene Hackman plays the veteran ringleader of a gang of thieves (Delroy Lindo, Ricky Jay and Rebecca Pigeon as Hackman's youngish wife) that pulls off complex heists for a despicable fence (Danny DeVito). After stiffing the gang on a jewelry robbery, DeVito forces the gang to go after a Swiss gold shipment and to use his son (Sam Rockwell) in the crime. Mistrust runs rampant as double-crosses threaten the split-second operation.
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Uncivil War Brides (1946)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges' wedding plans are interrupted by the Civil War, and the boys rush off to join the Army. The only problem is that Moe and Larry join the Union Army, while Curly joins the Confederates. When the opposing armies pass through, the Stooges take turns as each other's prisoners.
The Stooges' wedding plans are interrupted by the Civil War, and the boys rush off to join the Army. The only problem is that Moe and Larry join the Union Army, while Curly joins the Confederates. When the opposing armies pass through, the Stooges take turns as each other's prisoners.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
Good evening gents , just finished up the paperwork figured I'd sit down in the quiet baroom and relax for a bit.
Eric-The track was taken off CP's international bridge because the city of Niagara falls wanted it gone. The city is very yuppie like in it's tastes. the trackage ran from Welland accross to teh Montrose yard then out through teh city to teh bridge. Unfrotunatly teh bridge is located in the "tourist area" with teh trackage comming up behind Mount carmel and accross Clifton hill ( main touirst trap area where all the wax museum's & haunted huses and casino's are <barf> ) It's a traffic nightmare just with street traffic through in 100+ car feight trains several times aday and well the city wantd it gone so they bought all the land from CP and pulled up the tracks. The absolute ludicracy of it was that CP had just done 10 million in upgrades to the bridge ( which is still there unused )Now CP routes all there barder stuff accross at Buffalo on the CN's bridge that runs beside the Peace bridge ( which needs massive upgrading as it's not the most solid bridge ) so two class ones are shoving their tonnage accross the Niagara river at the worst bridge all so the Provincially owned casino's and all those crappy tourist traps don't have to deal with trains that were there a 100 years basically before they even existed.
Interesting shots, I liked the museum shot what a neat looking car
Tom-Yup obviously I was smoking my socks againFor some reason I thought I read SP don't know why
Sounds like you are making some headway on the subway,just watch the old noggin as your wiring it all up,don't want any beauty marks to remember the work by.Thanks for the info on the sleepers I figured that for the price, private rest room facilities were there. I don't think I'd want to use a shower at the best of times on a train but those units sound about as usefull as a three dollar bill.
Two more shots from the roll,I'm amazed that concidering the age of the film that there was no degradation from the time it waited to be developed.
A GT GP7 at Battlecreek.
A GT GP9 switching at Battlecreek. Note that it is one of teh passenegr ones and still has the roof mounted torpedo tube air tanks.
Hey guys take a peek at this website,found this link over on the trains forum.It's an interesting look at a factory a drive by quite often when I'm in Hamilton. The Herritage section is a quite intersting look and listen.
National Steel Car has updated their website.
http://www.steelcar.com/
This a great looking and great sounding website.
There are blueprint like drawings of all the equipment they manufacture at National Steel Car.
<personal foto>
A smile to begin the week!
I wish I had an answer to that, because I'm tired of answering that question.
<A Yogi-ism!>
I've come to the realization that the tempo at the bar AND the weather here in mid-continent USA is inextricably linked. Meaning: we've had so many periods of doldrums ‘round here, followed by upswings - then doldrums again that it reminds me of the weather patterns. Yesterday we reached 78 (F) - this morning for Juneau's first walk it was 37, blustery with a winter storm watch "up" beginning today at noon. Expecting 4 to 8 inches of snow tomorrow <I'll believe it when we tromp thru it!> as winter is hanging on the bitter end . . .
What better time to kick start the day, than with a hot mugga Joe Enjoy our freshly baked pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n of course order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while you're at it . . .
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March 5th (Nick - 48) - NEXT UP!!
MOON PIE (March 21 - April 20) You're the type that spends a lot of time on the front porch. A cinch to recognize the physical appearance of Moon Pies. Big and round are the key words here. You should marry anybody who you can get remotely interested in the idea. A Chitlin would be a good mate but it's not going to be easy. You always have a big smile and are happy. This might be the year to think about aerobics. Maybe not.
Comments from the Proprietor:
CONTEST UNDERWAY!
WHO will make the 4,000th reply at the bar AND when
It's a two-parter - so be sure to include the name of the person you think will make the Post along with the date!
Duplicate prizes WILL be awarded! Prizes also awarded for correctly naming only one of the parts . . . <whattaguy>
Some help in determining your guesstimates:
3,800th reply <Tom> on Feb 29th, Page 191
3,700th reply <Dan> on Feb 18th, Page 186
3,600th reply <Rob> on Feb 7th, Page 181
3,500th reply <Jan> on Jan 29th, Page 176
3,400th reply <Tom> on Jan 19th, Page 171
3,300th reply <Rob> on Jan 9th, Page 166
Participants thus far:
(1) Pete sez Rob on Mar 11th <you may wish to rethink that date . . . . check the help section . . .>
(2) Rob sez Pete on Mar 16th
(3) Eric sez Allan on Mar 21st
CONTEST CLOSES on Friday, March 7th. So let's get those cabooses in gear!
Sunday - Mar 2nd: <all times Central standard>
Page 191 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11 PM ‘n 11:57 PM: A two-fer from our Resident Ontario Connection ‘n Manager!
Really enjoyed the link on National Steel Car - different fer sure, fer sure - good looking logo.
I do think that Ruth or Cindy could've done a far better job at the narration! <grin> Anyway, appreciate your providing it for the crew . . .
Yeah - I've already <dinged the noggi
Morning Ruth , good to see you i think I need a bit of an eye openner, a large thermos of the BK splash ( high octane ) and you know just french toast today witha generous helping of the maple syrup I had brought in. ( yes it's almost tree tapping time ) Yes Boris you may have some for your PPF obviously he is without tastebudds just make sure the critters get their treats first and please please feed Artie outside , Helga eyes the leftovers as a good filler for the saussage mosheen
Tom-Morning sir, I talked with my sister in Colorado spruings yesterday and while we were on the phone the snow started up and she couldn't see the neighbours accross the street,after two days of high 60's !Now I've always noted however that the worst snowstorms and blizzards here in Ontario have always come in March, dump a ton and melt fast 1977 comes to mind,my hometown got close to three feet, it ws gone inside of a week though.We are schedualed for about 47-50 degrees here and rain all day ( oh joy ) the foot of snow we have will soon be running down the street.
Interesting link,imagine that a major city with a transit hub connecting the downtown to the airport.Now why would that "fly" even more amazing is that it's on scheduale and apparently on budget Amazing what an Olympic Game's does price is no object.
National Steel cars an intersting place,did you feel like ordering some freight cars after you sat through some of those video clips heck of a sales pitch,at least she wasn't wearing a used car salesman's green checked suitAll kidding aside they did do a nice job on that website
More later.
Here's another Classic Juice piece reserected from the old thread.
CLASSIC JUICE #34 THE CHICAGO & NEW YORK AIRLINE
The ambition and vitality of the interurban reached a kind of pinacle when the Chicago-New York Air Line RR was first contemplated and construction started. It was a magnificent dream that was an on and off affair between 1906-1913.This was to have been a breathtaking piece of engineering and construction. It's charter and designers called for a high speed double track mainline that was to travel a direct 750 mile route between Chicago and New York City.A distance designed to be hundreds of miles shorter than the steam railroads required for the same trip.It was designed to plunge through the Pennsylvania Mountains in a series of dramatic tunnels and fills.There was to be no curve that couldn't be taken at the high speed of 90mph, nor any grade larger than one half of one percent !Streamlined electric locomotives were called for to pull luxurious cars between the cities in 10 hours, averaging 75mph over the length of the run. All this was theoretically possible,even for the time and with the current 1500v DC overhead technologies.
When in 1906 ground was first broken for the construction of the first leg of the road,thousands of Airline stockholders felt that the world's most ambitious interurban would soon become the worlds most profitable one.There were aspects of a crusade , or even an almost cult like following with the shareholders of the "airline".Each month they recieved the periodical "The Air Line News ".it reported on how wonderfully the construction was progressing. It printed the steel girders that had already been rcieved to span creeks and build bridges, and showed shots of the huge Vulcan Steam crane already on the job grading the ROW.They ran letters from enthusiastic sharholders, and coupons in each issue by which the readers or their friends could apply for more stock, purchasable in installments !
In four or five sections of the country, airline stockholders formed into local clubs so they could get to know each other and hear speeches about "their"wonderfull railroad. The land aquisition program in Indiana, where the initial construction took place was also marked with almost evangelical fervor.Colonel Hord, the main option selling man, would approach farmers along the route who's labds needed to be appropriated and he would talk them into selling their piece for a handfull of shares,sometimes even getting them to get on board and buy more. ( original used car salesman ).
The Air Line, was not just a mere hot air and mirrors promotion. Alexander C Miller, the guiding spirit of the line, and J D Price, the president of the line and construction company were substantial citizens with a back ground in railroading.Miller was a dedicated believer in the whole plan.The company used high pressure promotion methods, because conventional financing for such a huge plan was unavailable as the banks were heavily involved in the existing steam roads and competeing interurbans.
Nevertheless, a dismal sequence of troubles began to tarnish "the dream".Enough stock was sold in installments, to pay for the first 100 mile division east from Chicago.It was anticipated that as soon as this division began to make money, new investors would flock in to provide capitol to build the other divisions.A sharpe busieness depression in 1907 and 1908 cut off the sale of stock, and brought widespread defaulting on installment payments for stock already sold.
By the time money began to run out, some miles of mainline had been built westward from La Porte, Indiana. The Air Line found itself in possession of some magnificent track that led in terms of revenue traffic, from Nowhere to West Nowhere.Belatedly the company bent it's efforts in connecting links to nearby towns.It built an amusement park just outside La Porte that generated some travel, and it fought fierce battles to obtain feeder franchises in Gary and elsewhere.
The worst headache for the Air Line by far was the impractically high construction specifications.To keep within the maximum grade limitation each overpass that bridged a steam railroad had to be flanked by enormous ramps that started almost a mile on either side of the crossing. They actually built several of these titanic embankments.Elsewhere across the gently rolling northern Indiana, even minor terrain undulations created enormous difficulties.The worst trouble was at a place called Coffee Creek, about a dozen miles from Gary. Here the adherance to specifications involved both a deep cut and a huge fill, 180 feet wide at the bottom, that marched accross 2 miles of valley! The power shovles and dump cars worked month after month at this grand crossing steadlily pouring stockholders money into a mound of earth of enormous proportions.
Even with the Coffee Creek bypass completed, it was the ultimate undoing of the Air Line.By 1913 a kind of misshappen and unpromissing interurban system was patched together between La Porte, Valparisso,Gary,and Chicago.Less than 30 miles of it was the dead straight track built to Air Line standards.The rest was ordinary winding track.Amoung the cars operated by the company were two handsome Niles Cars with "NEW YORK "lettered in gold on the eastern end and "CHICAGO" at the other. These two and 30 miles of arrow strait trackreaching towards the horrizon were all that remained of the dream.By 1926 this line folded some of it being taken up by the rival interurbans of the midwest.
Many thanx to Rob for dropping by this AM with a two-fer along with a visit to "my other Thread"! Appears as if only you 'n I are "into" multiple Posts these days <daze> . . . one per day is fine, except when that "one" is spaced so far between the most recent activity. <yuck> But, such is life 'round here, eh
"Dropped a dime" on ya, but just got the MoSheen - no problem-O - just thought we could chat . . .
CONTEST underway . . . <this is NOT the same one as in the AM summary!!>
When will we reach Page 200
Bonus: Who will make that Post
Participants:
(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)
(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)
(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)
(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)
(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)
(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)
(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)
Contest CLOSED!
CN 371732 Cylindrical Covered Hopper <from: trainweb.org>
CN 79824 Steel Caboose <from: trainweb.org>
Later <maybe>!
Tom
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Just a quick stop today as I have been busy since early this a.m. Then we have been having computer issues. Anyway, I'll be by at the usual time tomorrow (if the truck don't burn up).
Work safe
Hi Tom and all.
A round please RUTH
Well finally the wireless modem thingy packed up all together so no computer . We got a replacement part, loaded it up but had a problem with the computer recognizing it to connect to the Internet anyway finally figured it out and (touch wood) it seems to be working.
ROB I must admit that I did no pay much attention to the movies playing in the service cars on the Ocean. A though suddenly occurred did you notice if the English and French language films have sub titles in the other language.
I guess one good thing with the puter being down I missed HELGA winning the wet T-shirt contest.
Great find that roll of film from 1995 and in great condition, many thanks for showing them at the bar. The CN track that is now run by Trillium Rail looks as though it had just been re ballasted. It is sad that the line in the last photo is no longer there.
That is a good website from National Steel Car, I particularly liked the Heritage section, I though the ‘In Memoriam' was very tastefully done.
I remember The Chicago and New York Airline brought about a lot of conversation at the bar when it was first posted. If the line could have been built with the original gentle curves, it is interesting to think what speeds the trains would be running at today and what time the New York to Chicago run would take today.
ERIC I guess it took a lot of money to replace the road signs etc in the switch to right hand running on Sweden's roads, but were the left hand drive cars cheaper to buy than the right hand drive ones do you remember.
It would be interesting to know why the British railways kept on with the 0-6-0 locomotives so long while most others preferred the 2-6-0s or the 4-6-0s.
Many tanks for the great photo from the cab north of the Arctic Circle and the photos on Sunday morning. I like the style of those older Swedish electric locomotives and the narrow gauge electric car in Stockholm Transit Museum is a classic.
I'm afraid all I can say about the station is that is in the U.S.A.
NICK I see the re wiring has begun on the S&D and the first train has run over the new section.
Glad you were able to get your photobucket file back up and I shall look forward to the photos.
CM3 Sorry about the computer problems, looking forward to seeing you tomorrow
TOM Yes My contest entry should have read March 21 (I pressed the wrong key), but seeing as Eric has chosen March 21 can I have March 22, still Rob to make it though.
Thanks for the meaning of Coulee
Many thanks for the info on the Via Rail cars $5 million Canadian dollars seems a great deal of money for a Passenger Car, no wonder the ‘Chuggers' looked a great deal at the time. Thinking about it there must be quite a few Budd cars left on Via Rail as when they cannot use the Renaissance cars for whatever reason, they have some they can use on the Halifax run, as well as the Budd cars used on the Gaspe run. I agree with what you say about the showers in the Renaissance cars.
Very much enjoyed the Northern Pacific railway re-run. A railroad that had many money troubles and even involved General Custer during its construction. I wonder what the railway map would have looked like if those mergers had been allowed in the early 1900s. I see it was to be in 1970 that the Northern Pacific would join with its rival the Great Northern to be come what is now BNSF.
Great NP Drumheads and book covers as well.
Gods and Generals seems an interesting film and with Robert Duvall in it and Heist looks another good Gene Hackman film. I see the Stooges are causing their usual mayhem.
Good day Tom and all at the bar. A round on me. I've been working furiously on my engine and now have it about 70% complete. I tried to take some pictures yesterday, but wouldn't you know, the digital camera was dead. I've since taken the engine apart again to work out some of the bugs affecting the quartering of the drivers.
Mike: I fully enjoyed the pictures of New York. Having been born and raised in New York, those pictures were nostalgic. Although they were a bit before my time, I enjoy old pictures of N.Y. I still remember the Mack REA trucks and railroad cars and the cobblestone streets of lower Manhattan.
Allan: I was only five in 1939, so the image of the world's fair is a faint blur. Yes, my parents took me to the fair and the only thing I remember of it was the model train display. I believe it was of the N.Y.C. subway system.
Pete: No I don't have the Reynolds Rocket pen any longer. It was just one of the valuable keepsakes I didn't keep. I could kick myself for all the things I parted with that are valuable today. Some of them include: a 1952 MG TD, a 1962, VW 23 window/sunroof micro bus, an RCA 6 tube portable radio, vintage early 1920's that was powered by A, B and C batteries, two old microphones (the type with the carbon element suspended from a hoop by coil springs), a personal Babe Ruth autograph, the first all transistor portable FM radio (Sony), one of the first tube/battery radios small enough to be held in your hand by Westinghouse, etc, etc.
Eric: My son was working on the Global Hawk UAV while at Northrop Grumman. He took me on a tour of the facilities and showed me how it was put together.
Rob: I think there may be an Aero train in some museum, but not sure. I'll try to find out. Enjoyed the National Steel Car web site.
Nick: Next time you're in New York, stop by the Stage Deli or Carnegie deli for a corn beef or pastrami on rye. It's good enough to die for.
Tom: Good coverage of bridges. Those spindlely trestles are fasinating to look at, especially when a 2000 ton train is crossing it.
P.S. Check out this link to the Aero train http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/01/jet-powered-other-futuristic-trains.html
June 30 - Last day archbar freight trucks can legally operate in U.S. Interchange service (and then only on empty cars returning to their home roads).
Courtesy of Wikipedia.
June 16 : The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is held for the first time in Sturgis, SD
There weren't many events happening in 1940 due to the 2nd world war. It is something we would like to forget and not dwell upon.
Appears we've been 'saved' by CM3 Shane 'n Wolfman Pete this afternoon - beginning to wonder whether I'd be doing a solo for the remainder of this wet, windy 'n cold day in east central MO . . . Thanx lads!
An interesting thing about the list of participants in the "when will we reach Page 200" contest is that if just a few of those guys would show up regularly - we'd be in good shape.
Do appreciate the extra efforts put forth by Rob along with the visits from the guys who are many time zones away - without you <Allan 'n Nick> things would be far worse than we've experienced. THANX!
Something to keep us "up" on the Page - an ENCORE! with a bit of rework
Theme for the Day #3
New York, New Haven & Hartford (NYNH&H) (NH)
Headquarters: New Haven, CT
Mileage in 1950: 1,800
Locomotives in 1963:
Diesel: 381 - Electric: 22
Rolling stock in 1963:
Freight cars: 6,925 - Passenger cars: 1,055 (including self-propelled)
Principal routes in 1950:
New York City (Grand Central)-New Haven-New London, CT-Providence, RI-Boston, MA
New York City (Pennsylvania Station)-New Rochelle, NY
New Haven-Hartford, CT-Springfield, MA
New Haven-Middletown-Putnam, CT-Boston (Readville)
New Haven-Northhampton & Holyoke, MA
Devon-Winsted, CT
Waterbury-Hartford-Plainfield, CT-Providence
Providence (Valley Falls)-Worcester, MA
Norwalk, CT-Pittsfield & Station Line, MA
Derby, CT-Campbell Hall & Beacon, NY
New London-Worcester
New Bedford & Fall River-Framingham-Lowell & Fitchburg, MA
Boston-Brocton-Provincetown & Hyannis & Woods Hole, MA
Attleboro-Taunton-Middleboro, MA
South Braintree-Plymouth, MA
Passenger trains of note:
NEW YORK-BOSTON
Hell Gate Express - Merchants Limited - Murray Hill - Narragansett -
New Yorker - Owl - Puritan - Roger Williams - Shoreliner - Yankee Clipper
BOSTON-PHILADELPHIA-WASHINGTON
(operated by PRR west of NYC (Penn Station)
Colonial - Federal - Patriot - Pilgrim - Quaker - Senator - William Penn
OTHER RUNS
Bankers (New York-Springfield)
Berkshires (New York-Pittsfield)
Connecticut Yankee (New York-Springfield)
Day Cape Codder (New York-Hyannis & Woods Hole
Day White Mountain (New York-Berlin, NH; operated by B&M north of Springfield)
Montrealer (New York-to-Montreal, operated by B&M, CV & CN north of Springfield)
Nathan Hale (New York-Springfield)
Naugatuck (New York-Winsted)
Night Cap (New York-Stamford, CT
State of Maine (New York-Portland, ME via Providence & Worcester; B&M beyond
Washingtonian (Montreal-to-Washington counterpart to Montrealer
Provided by BK <BudKarr> on Page 388 of the Original Thread . . .
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Tom. Congratulations on making the 3,800th post, what sort of prize did Boris come up with? Enjoyed your very interesting re-post of the Great RR Bridges #3 on the Lethbridge Viaduct with pics, the comprehensive write up on the Northern Pacific RR with the Drumheads and pics, and the very interesting info inThe Theme for the Day #3 on the New Haven RR with the posters and pics. Nice choice of flicks for the weekend, and the description of your tribulations during the wiring of your S_Capades RR was really humerous to read.
Nick. Wishing you a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY for tomorrow mate, have a good one! Your latest menu was very tempting indeed, and you are so right about drops of molten solder being so hazardous.
Rob. You were so right about both parents having to work these days to make a decent crust, we can thank all the "futures" and mortgage speculators for all that! Very interesting Classic Juice #37 on the Halifax streetcar system, did`nt realise that their were some areas of Canada with right hand drive road systems as well. Nice Classic Juice #34 on the C&NY Airline and a great set of diesel loco`s and train shots you posted, many thanks, and the link to the National Steel Car site as well.
CM3. That was a quick turn-around for the Blue Bird lash up seeing their was only the one set of equipment. Will let you know what my thoughts of Pete`s book are ASAP.
Pete. Am enjoying reading your book, boy were`nt their a lot of boiler blow up`s in the early days? Thanks for the great set of Shildon loco parade pics, you are doing a great job with that new scanner of yours! Just saw on Sky TV that the Toon management still have complete faith in Kevin Keagan, they`ve got to give him some leaway to get the team performing as a TEAM!
Eric. We very rarely get snow here but we can see all the snow on the Ruahine Ranges during the winter, it`s a great sight from home with the woodburner going flat stick inside, they are about 15 miles west of us, we get a few frosts in the winter usually followed by nice sunny days. Very interesting set of pics you posted of the electric loco`s and the narrow guage passenger cars.
Ron. Nice link to the Aero train and that list of the Events of 1940 was very interesting. You have a great memory of around 1939-40, my first train memory was about the same age in 1939 when I saw a military railway loco [a saddle tank] at Shoeburyness where my father was stationed at the Artillery Proof and Experimental Ranges there.
See ya, Allan
Well please excuse me gents-I shall be mostly lurking at the back this evening,trying out various ways of pasting pix,so they enlarge-but please-carry on as you were -TOM,ROB & ERIC-if you are all naive enough to play PETE at dominoes for `nominal ` sums whilst sitting around a warm fire with a bottle or two on a winters evening then I can only cherish your innocence-before the first darts tournament he beat me 5-0,using the 2nd class`s dominoes-I swear that man can see all the sixes with his eyes closed.............
Leon-Beer and winter warmers for the gents please-and a large drink or two for yourself for taking care of Boris & his friends and relations-apparently it wasn`t a family row per se....It seems that every 4 years his extended tribal and family network elect a new tribal leader to sit in the European parliament and plead the cause of the old country
Right-see you all in a bit......
Good evening Leon , I see that Boris has the fire blazing. He what ? Oh yes I'll talk to him and H&H about that. ( note to self , show H&H and Boris how to properly dry out their knickers in front of a fire )I suppose the smell will disapate eventually Right Leon I think a Guiness and a round for the boys, two or three for Nick as he struggles with the ole cut n paste.
Tom-I must have just missed you this morning, by the time code on the message I'd just gone out the door to work,catch you later,I'm off thursday if it was important,chats are a good thing
Liked the pictures and the NYNH write up I hope the weather wasn't too awfull for you guys today,rained all day here still around 45 degrees, talk about slop as it's rained all day on top of the what was foot of snow,the water on teh road was over my boot top this morning, the nice thing was the city crews were out making sure no snow or ice was clogging the storm sewer inlets otherwise I'm sure that there could have been a lot of swamped basements.
Pete-Great pictures in your post today,I think you've gone mad with your new found scanner. keep them comming they've all been great shots.Good to hear that the 'ole puter is back up and firing on all cylinders.
I do remember the discussions we had on that interurban. I would imagine that had it survived to the modern day intact, it likely would have been a extreme high speed transit system similar o some of those in Continental Europe.
I actually don't recall if the movies in the service car were subtitled. If Heather and I went back there , we tended to grab a beverage and head back to our seats as it was quieter too many screaming yuppie spawn ( kids )I would think that they were not subtitled as they made announcements over the trains PA system on what movies were playing, and in which service car and in whick language.
You are right the memorial parts of NSC's website were very tastefully done
Ron-Another fine monday post sir Hope to see some photo's of your loco once you get the ole camera working Lots of good stuff in 1940's rail history.Another fine deli to visit is Swartz's in Montreal if you ever get there. Once you get a taste of authentic Montreal smoked meat you won't go back ( accept for seconds and thirds and ... oh my )
Allan-Yes we had several right hand drive spots here over the years. Nova Scotia New Brunswick and Newfoundland were all right handed at some points . The last to change over was Newfoundland as it only joined Canada in 1949.My wife and I don't even have kids and we need the two incomes to have enough scratch to live on it's sad, I can't imagine how people afford families anymore.
Nick-I wait with baited breath for the photo's,hopefully you didn't catch any of last nights fashion feux pas in which saw Helga triumphant
CM3-I'm glad you were able to pop in, even if only for a moment.Hopefully the puter issues will be resolved quickly
Another Classic Juice encore to provide some morning reading this one from way back in the old thread page 163 over there
Mind the doors please, and move to the back of the car.
Leon, give me a ham sandwich and a Keith's, please!
More activities here today than the last few days!
Tom – The station in my photo is located along the NEC, in a city with some Swedish ties. Nice looking locomotives in the photos from Australia and Brazil! Two interesting movies this week at the Emporium! Gods and Generals is a long one! More than 3 1/2 hours! Heist must be a good movie! Gene Hackman is one of my favorite actors. Hew Haven! Hell Gate Express, from where to where did it run? I can imagine New York City (Penn Station) was one end of the run. Nice photos of those RDC’s! Rob – Sounds strange to me that the city of Niagara Falls could buy the land and remove the tracks! Just like that? It doesn’t make sense at all. I guess the city forgot that a lot of people like railroads. Why does the GT GP9 has air tanks on the roof? No room underneath? Thanks for the photos!Thanks for the link to National Steel Car! It is a very interesting site with nice presentations of their different freight cars!Interesting story on the Chicago & New York Airline! It certainly would have been interesting to see what had happened if they had been able to build that line the way they planned. Kind of sad story about CN’s Electric lines. At least one of them is still running under wire! The four miles of electric track through the St. Clair Tunnel certainly didn’t make much sense. They should have extended the electric zone much longer. CM3 – Hope your truck didn’t burn at all!Pete – Trucks and cars sold in Sweden have always had the driver sitting to the left, even when it was left hand traffic. So the change to right hand traffic just made it better for all drivers. Buses were a different story. The driver was always on the right hand side when it was left hand traffic. It changed to the left side when the right hand traffic started. The station is in the USA!!! As a matter of fact, it is in state #1, in a city along the NEC. Thanks for the photos (and info) of the locomotives and the HST! I guess the electric locmotive was pulled by a steam locomotive when you took the picture. Ron – There is an Aerotrain at St. Louis Museum of Transportation. It is not complete though, just a locomotive and a couple of cars. See picture below.I guess all the events listed happened in 1940. Chicago Bears defeated Washington Redskins 73-0!!! Wow. Allan – It seems like you have the same kind of feelings about snow as I do. Nice to look at from a warm place! 15 miles is a good distance when it comes to snow watching. Nick – Thank you for the info on Pete’s skills! I noticed last May that he tried to behave and look innocent all the time. Hmmm.
Goood Morning Captain Tom and Company
I'll have a bowl of Chicken Soup and a Dram of Scotch with Honey and Lemon please, Oh and pass the Tylenol and a body bag... Ya I is nailed so keep you distance, maybe a 50' exclusion zone would be in order.
Rob! Excellent article regarding the Halifax Trolley system. I take it you have a copy of
Canadian Trolleys, Volume 1-Eastern Canada by R. Halperin (Morning Sun Books)
&
Halifax-City of Trolleycoaches, by P. Leger and L Lawrence
On a side note come spring you can see old track peaking through the asphalt on the older roads in the core of the city.
Tom: Thankyou for the expose on the Lethbridge Viaduct. Looking at these Bridge pictures it amazes me how so little steel work can support such a weight! Engineering at it's finest.
Allan: Your assumption regarding me in front of the 0-6-0 is correct.
Peter: thank you for the Kudo's once again. I now regret not taking the time in Conway to vist the Museum and see the engines. Unfortunately February is a bad time of year to take in the sites as they are all closed.
Well I have three projects on the go today... 1. Incorporate Dad's Nautical library into mine (lots and lots of books on Paddle Wheelers and Passenger ships)
2. Go to Doctor for check up
3. Go to LHS and pick up 3rd CPR caboose in original colours.
Coalminer: As to the question about the red "Cabeese". Well I hauled out one or two books on CPR and by the looks of it Standardization of Colours is iffy. I know some railways were making several changes during the late 50's into the 60's just to "modernize". Haven't seen anyphotos of the yellow ends though... I will make an inquiry rgarding this at the LHS later today.
Anyway must run
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Morning folks , interestingnlooks like I beat the in this morning. That's fine he needs the sleep in time more likely is that Juneau has taken him on an extended run,it's good cardio I hear. Well Ruth a big thermos of the high octane BK splash coffee and a number three,hold the hash browns today though,I saw Hilda at the potato chopper
Eric-Yes the city of Niagara Falls was more interested in listening to the casino management,and trafic snarls are not good for business that and alot of the usual we want our city clean free of big old noisy trains groups actually were listened to. <barf>A four mile electric system was a bit of a waste , but hey it's what they did.
Fergie-I figured the Halifax story would catch your eye,and yes that book is part of my refernce collection amoung others.My understanding is that the yellow ended CPR cabooses, were an Ontario district thing,once crews ddin't keep their caboose as the crews personal home away from home they would spread all over the eastern part of the couintry at any rate,from what I agther the yellow ends were originally from the "electric lines" GRR LE&N districts in southwestern Ontario. The Grand River railway operated three or four of those caboose's lettered for them. As an aside I was a bit miffed,trueline was supposed to release the GRR lettered one's with the CPR ones,but they did not come out ( I'm guessing lack of intereest during the pre-order stages )
I didn't notice the track poking up when I was out there this summer ( mind you that would ahve been the last thing I was looking for )Not all that unusual for cities to bury streetcar trackage ,as it's not as heavy and large as traditional railway track,eventually it does have to be removed though, as in areas with any sort of winter will get quite bad fraost heaves because of the "burried treasure"I know that my home town of St Catharines is still lifting long burried NS&T trackage.
Morning again Ruth another top up of teh thermos before I wander out,oh what the heck the apple turnovers look good so I'll grab one of them out of the case as well.
Eric- Missed your second question during my first post. EMD put tanks up on the roof of many GP9's as they had extended range fuel tanks with large water resivoirs for the steam generator equipment that was mounted in the short hood,so no room for the tanks underneath so they stuck them up on the roof.This practice earmned them the unofficial railfan name of torpedo boats as the roof airtanks looked like the torpedo tubes on old destroyerescorts.After the steam gen equiment was removed most railroads didn't bother putting on smaller fuel tanks or relocating the airtanks as it cost more to do than what was really required, as having the tanks theer didn't hamper the operation of the locomotive.
Couple more shots from Battlecreek from '95
ex DT&I unit resting between runs
A mix of power on the ready tracks by the Battlecreeks shops
More later work calls.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please ; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
We are waiting for wind, rain, thunder and then maybe some snow; none of which has happened yet. Gas is at $3.29 (for now) .
Computer situation has seemed to improve although I could not log onto our LAN yesterday - this, of course, happened because I had a class to present. I use a lot of visuals, etc. to do stuff as people "'lern better with ‘pichers." Tech Support arrived after awhile and said, "Maybe we should do a restart and see what happens." A little more consideration and he said, "If that doesn't work, then you've got a problem." Like that kinds of shift. Anyway, it worked.
4000th post contest - My guess in March 13, posted by Rob.
Let's see there ‘s all kinds of things to talk about.
Eric - Enjoyed the pictures and comments - Rocks Tunnel - know it well. I can't believe that nobody answered your quiz. The station is Wilmington, DE. IIRC, the renovation was done before you took the picture. It was a real mess when I used to ride in and out of there.
Here's some information on the "Hell Gate Express" from 1950 Official Guide.
This train picked up short sleepers at Providence and handed off cars en route as described below.
Train 179 "Hell Gate Express"
Lv. Boston 9:15 p.m.
Lv. NY 4:02 a.m.
Arr. Washington 8:20 a.m.
Train 179 ran with Train 173 "Federal" between New Haven and Washington
Sleeping Cars
Providence-Washington (roomettes/double bedrooms) to train 173 @ New Haven on weekday nights except Saturday); to PRR train 119 at New York on Sunday nights
Providence-Philadelphia (Berths, drawing rooms) Sunday nights only to Train 187 "Quaker" @ New Haven.
Springfield-Washington (Berths, drawing rooms, double bedroom, roomette Sunday nights only from Train 49 @ New Haven to PRR 119 @ New York. NOTE: Handled in NYNH&H Train 173 on week nights
Coaches" Boston-Washington
Fergie was by with comments - I remember riding CP cabs like that, in Ontario, as Rob suggests. As somebody said, "Look hard enough and you can find a prototype for about anything."
Rob - Great pictures, sir. That's sort of like finding money inside a book. Clean out the desk? Clean out the desk? I can't even see the desk. Your comments about bridges in Buffalo were on target - scary, in eed. IMHO, it's only going to get more interesting when they tighten up crossing rules which I guess is going to happen. Track is all gone as you said. The GT power, not all that long ago, was certainly nice to see, even though I am not overly fond of the blue and orange, a torpedo tube geep is still a pleasant surprise. L&N had a few of those running when I lived in Nashville. I have saved the steelcar site and will look at it as soon as I can.
Nick - At least you have trains running which is better than I am doing although I am still working on structures. You played with Second Class's dominoes - you, of all people, should know better - their dominoes are almost as famous as their dice and cards. Our Intrepid Reporter is the only one I know of who has been able to outsmart them. Of course, the loaded .45 on the table might have had something to do with it, although he told me, ‘Weapons, I don't need weapons, I just have a keen eye for the cards." Then he returned my wallet - I never even knew it was gone. He's that good, really!
Pete - Nice 2-10-0 pictures.
DD1 - Good to hear from you. Carnegie Deli? When do we leave? I have not been there in a loooong time.
OSP provided a nice rerun on the NP with some books I have note seen. Also enjoyed the bridge material as well. Then we had some New Haven material from the vault. Both the B&M and the NYNH&H ran ski trains back then. Former from Boston and the latter from New York up to the Berkshires. Yes, Boris, the ski trains had diners, too.
Good movies this week. I have not seen Heist. Gods and Generals is not bad as Lang's portrayal of "Old Blue Light," IMHO, stole the show. Duvall is also a better Lee than Martin Sheen who played him in "Gettysburg."
work safe
Went to bed after listening to the forecast - 6 to 10 inches expected thru Tuesday <today> late afternoon. Awoke to nothing but wet ‘n chilly. Supposedly the storm system is still on the way, but downgraded . . . <figures>! There are places not that far from us where the snow ‘n ice has forced zillions of cancellations - in this immediate area, same-ole, same-ole. <arrrrrggggghhhhhh>
Coffee ‘n pastries are ready! Breakfasts to order are as well - so belly up, gents!
March 5th (Nick - 48) Next Up!
(1) Pete sez Rob on Mar 22nd
(4) CM3 Shane sez Rob on Mar 13th
Monday - Mar 3rd: <all times Central standard>
Page 191 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:06 AM ‘n 9:24 AM: A two-fer once again from our Resident Ontario Connection ‘n Manager!
That's a good read regarding the ill-conceived link between New York City ‘n Chicago . . . Perhaps a bit of U.S. railroading history long lost to the dusty shelves of libraries . . . <You first Posted it on Page 388, Sep 5th, 2006, over on the Original Thread . . . >
Figured you'd appreciate the news story regarding the SkyTrain link-up between downtown ‘n the airport in Vancouver, BC. Amazing work, fer sure, fer sure.
Have read some horror stories about businesses in downtown that have been pretty much ruined because of it . . . always some losers when projects like this overtake the landscape <or sub terrain in this case!>.
Wonder if the Olympics really was the driving force behind the project Surely didn't hurt it any though . . . Gotta hand it to those who had the foresight - a great
And it is a GOOD day with the snow falling in heavy amounts. All began in earnest around 10 AM 'n before noon we had at least 4 inches - at this writing we're approaching 7 with a bit more to come before it ends. Juneau has been in Husky Heaven - just luvs it, as do we.
Fired up the snow blower 'n made the first pass at clearing the parking lot <aka: driveway> and sidewalks . . . most definitely will have to do it again. Sure beats shoveling - plus I'm told that someone my age shouldn't be shoveling. <grin> That's what MoSheens are for.
So, not much daytime activity since the early AM flurry of activity. Strange day at the bar, but most pleased to see so many faces since yesterday at this time . . . just hard to figure the Feast or Famine bar 'n grill, eh
A little something for this day . . . kinda staying away from "heavy" reading, for what's the point Methinks the guys would much rather have some fotos with descriptions, or "light" stuff . . .
Try this one from the archives:
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #69
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 254, Feb 22nd, 2006 on the Original Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the RAILWAYS OF FRANCE from a 1933 advertisement in my personal collection.
France
for new scenes and new interests . . . not the usual faces and amusements of your favorite resort . . . but PARIS Your aperitif at a tiny sidewalk table, a book mart along the Seine, Versailles and its glamorous past . . . Le Touquet and La Braule for week-ends. Rouen with its blue roofs massing under pointed Gothic towers and silver-toned bells . . . the fashionable seaside resorts of Deauville, Dinard and Biarritz . . . curious Carnae of the Druid stones Down the Loire to Chambord, an architectural marvel of the renaissance . . . Orleans, of the time of Caesar, the capital of the Carnute people where centuries later Jeanne d'arc met her King. Renew your strength and youth at the Spas of Vichy, Aix les Bains and Vittel . . . the majestic forests of Voeges . . . Alsace, land of storks Cannes, Monte Carlo flaunt a luxurious sub-tropical beauty along that Azure Sea with Corsica situating under a cloudless sky . . . and far above, rugged mountains tower into sparkling Alpine glaciers The finest and fastest trains with tariffs of less than two cents a mile through roads our ancestors traveled when the middle ages were young . . . hotels and pensions cheaper than ever before . . . villas, garlanded with roses and honeysuckle Your travel agency has brochures that are little journeys in themselves,
RAILWAYS of FRANCE1 EAST 57TH STREET NEW YORK
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Enjoy! Tom
Hi Tom and all
A pint of Winter Ale on this return to the colder weather please RUTH.
TOM Many thanks for BK's New York, New Haven and Hartford encore. I see the NH had as many as 15 named trains between New York and Boston, I guess the only unnamed trains between the two cities would be the stopping trains. Great photos of the NH RDCs.
I guess I will have to wait a long time before seeing KCI connected to Downtown by light rail, what you say makes a lot of sense. I read recently that the sewer system there needs a lot of money spending on it so I guess there won't be any tax dollars for a rail system.
Enjoyed reading the Railways of France ad from 1933. I see they advertised the overnight train from Paris to London with the Wagons-Lits sleeping cars. It must have been when the service was re-introduced after the war that that train got its Night Ferry name.
They were forecasting some measurable snow for us today its seems here was the dividing point as all we got a very light snow shower but it was heavier on the east side of town, it is sunny here now.
RON If we could see in the future, some of the things we have had in the past and did not keep are now worth a fair bit of money.
Many thanks for the events of 1940 and that great link to the Aerotrain and the Jet train.
ALLAN Glad you enjoyed the Shildon slides, I will have a look through some of my other slides and see what is there. Those ones were Agfa slides I have some which are Kodak and I will have to see what they are like, all the other photos I have posted lately have been from my prints.
Oh Dear, when a football board say they have ‘complete faith' in a manager, usually the end is not far off. Still a couple of good wins will change that.
NICK I have not had a game of 5 and 3s since I came here, I played in the league for many years back in England. The bride and I often play Crib for the tab when we go to Pat's Place, the local Irish Pub. I have not had a chance to play Tom at Crib yet, perhaps at the Rendezvous.
BORIS is getting very good at making sure the Mascots get their daily treats and the effects are not too bad if we keep him on the ‘small' jar of the Pickled Pig's Feet.
ROB I have got to load up some more photos using the scanner as I am running out. Yes the puter is a lot easier now it does not take a lot of goes to get the wireless connected, it was strange how it connected sometimes quickly and other times took many restarts. I would have thought when I contacted the ‘help line' and told them the symptoms they could have told me the link part was faulty.
To think if the New York to Chicago Airline high-speed link had been built there would have been some very impressive North American high speed electric trains, like a 200 MPH electric Aerotrain perhaps.
I must admit I had not thought about the two service cars showing a different language film at the same time.
Many thanks for the CN's Electric Lines Classic Juice encore. It is sad to see all those lines dieselized or even worse abandoned that were once electric. It is good, though, to see that the Mount Royal line is still electric and part of the TSR electric line lives on in your museum.
Thanks for the photos from Battlecreek. I have not seen a MPI locomotive before, it looks a very smart livery on # 9006.
ERIC I did not know the Swedish cars were left hand drive before the roads changed, perhaps one day the extra cost of right hand drive cars will make all countries drive on the right.
It was the Longmoor Military Railway 2-10-0 ‘Gordon' that towed the Metropolitan electric. After the electrics ended their service on London Transport there was a number of them in a siding at Rugby. I guess on their way to a West Midlands scrapyard, although I cannot recall reading about them or seeing photos.
I see there is a photo of the Aerotrain t
Good evening Leon, I see that you've restacked all the beer bottles and kegs in the storeroom,I know gotta keep yourself busy ( I love to see a self starter ) I think a Keith's sir and a splashed coffee to wash it down with.
CM3-Figured that you would pick up on the sad state of affairs with those Buffalo bridges. I'm guessing ( don't know for sure ) but that the old GT now CN bridge has had alot of necessary maintenance done.You hear them still arguing about twinning the Peace Bridge adn adding the rail line to it as well. Time will tell. I haven't lived in St Catharines for seven years , and they hadn't decided what they were doing then,and they were kicking ideas around the twenty yeasr before I moved,hope3fully teh figure it out before a freight train falls off the bridge and gets washed down the Niagara river and over the falls.
Do you remember the old CP line when it ran accross the top of Clifton Hill and then down Victoria avenue infront of what was maple Leaf Viliage and it's midway to the CP international bridge at bridge street You wouldn't recognize it now. maple Leaf Village and it's midway are gone ( it became the first casino )They removed the raised fill the line ran along on Victoria Ave and have left the old Int bridge high and dry,what a waste.
I was supprised at how many old Geeps weer still around on tehat trip through Michigan and Ill. We found high hood GP's on the C&NW the Soo and the GT,we even got to see SP and D&RGW equipment even a few old Uboats that nowaday's all long gone to the locomotive yard in the sky.
Tom-Loved the railways of Farnce piece again,I'm glad that you aer enjoying your weather. We are getting the ahrd sleet snow today gonna get pounded all night apparently,this after an almost 60 degree day yesterdayI'll keep an ear out for you on thursday
My guess is that vancouver had those plans in the works for years and yes there is alot of money in the "Van"The BC Provincial,govt has put up alot of cash for projects since the Olympics were anounsed. The airport link , clean up of Stanley park,the widening of the Sea to Sky Highway from Vancouver upto Whistler you name it.The Olympics are a big big business the sports are lost in the feeding frenzy of cash.
I'm glad that you're enjoying the pictures , helps us dawdle along here at the bar by the ballast eh
Pete-The pictures are good sir as Tom said keep em comming,your retired uploading and scanning them should be no problem My dad an I have long bout's of crib quite often,I actually win now once in a while,
Your probably right,about the airline. If they had followed through with that perfect trackwork plan they envisioned that I'm sure they would have been upto a TGV type standard today.
Thye MPI unit was part of a lease fleet( Motive Power Industries ),at the time I took teh shots they were quite common,I don't see them often anymore coarse it's twelve years on so god knows if the company stills around.
Leon, my friend, a number 2 with curly fries and an ice cold Tui would be great! Thank you! Oh, don't forget a round for the house!
Tuesday and snow in some parts, but not here. Instead we had a sunny, kind of warm day.
Fergie – Thanks for the answer on the paint scheme for the red “Cabeese”. Hope everything went well at the doctor’s office!Rob – Thanks for the answer to my question about the City of Niagara Falls! Four mile electric system is indeed a waste. Well, it doesn’t matter now anyway, it's all gone.Thanks for the explanation of the position of the air tanks. I never thought about the steam generator. Do they still use steam generators on any railroad in Canada? Nice photos from Battlecreek! Is that a friend of yours taking a picture? CM3 – Congratulations, Wilmington it is! I knew you would recognize it! Rocks Tunnel is also a well known place. Harpers Ferry and Point of Rocks. I am glad I got a chance to travel along those tracks.
Point of Rocks.Thanks for the “Hell Gate Express” info! So I was wrong, New York was not the end of the line, Boston - Washington. Not a bad trip. A good night’s sleep! Which way did it run through New York City? Grand Central Terminal or Penn Station? I guess PRR operated the train from New York to Washington. Tom – Are you snowed in now?The station is Wilmington, DE. Very close to present downtown was the first Swedish settlement in North America. See link below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_ChristinaI certainly would see that movie, God and Generals, just to learn about the Civil War. I must admit I don’t know much about French railroads. TGV and the Chunnel trains, that is about it! And this Michelin motorcar on rubber tires! My grandpa took the picture of it when it was on a tour in Sweden in the 1930’s. Nice posters! London Overnight Express must have included a ferry ride across the channel. Pete – Thanks for the info on the towed electric! Why did London Transport skip them? Were they worn out? There was a few cars in Sweden with right hand drive but 99% were left hand drive even before the switch to right hand traffic.
Wednesday's Witticism
Don't leave a traveled road to follow a trail.
It's a winter wonderland here in Juneauville as we finally got a decent snowfall - nearly a foot <30 cm for those using that "funny" measurement>, but more importantly it's the heavy stuff - great for snow balls ‘n the like! <grin> Anyway, this morning is a bright, blue sky day - temps around 15 (F) but expected to rise above freezing as the day progresses. Undoubtedly Juneau will determine just how much time we spend outdoors! Luv it!
Apparently the storm system carved a narrow swarth through east central Missouri with perhaps a 40 mile radius on either side of the center - FINALLY "hit" us!
Coffee, pastries ‘n breakfasts are all ready - are you
March 5th (Nick - 48) To Nick
CHEERS to Nick <clink>!!
Tuesday - March 4th <all times Central standard>
Page 192 - Pete <pwolfe> at 5:20 PM: Must cite you for something GOOD - another outstanding effort in showing us all what an interactive Post ought to be like! Five Salute to the Wolfman <and Bar Chandler Supreme>!
Gotta correct you on a small matter - that New Haven offering was NOT the work of BK <BudKarr> - ONLY the posters ‘n fotos were "lifted" from one of his offerings over on the Original Thread . . . glad you enjoyed it all though!
Looking at the progress of that winter storm we had, it didn't appear that your area was even in the "mix." Perhaps whatever "gotcha" was either residual or a totally different weather system. At any rate, WE LUV IT!
Morning Ruth,I see that the and Juneau have tracked all sorts of snow into the abrroom oh well frostbite likes it, he's licking the floor.We ended up getting about half a foot possibly a bit more,the snowbanks are back up and white again after the last two or three days of melting.Well Ruth I think a number 3 and a lagrge thermos of the BK high octane blend the hour of shovelling has kinda done me in,good thing I don't have to be into work till one,
felicitations to our good friend Nick from over'ome I imagine he is already well into teh party mood at this point ( gotta be noon somewhere )
Eric-Nice picture sir I love the old depot with it's tower It has a European look to it Interesting info on Ft Christina,I aggree with Tom only one in the know would know.I can't think of any steam gen ops in Canada now other than on museum's, Even the Algoma Central and the Ontario Northland passenger trains are HEP equiped now,VIA certainly is unled the Churchill run is still steam heated.Yes that was afriend of mine that got himself in the picture, he's one of those oblivious to anything but himself types.( He works in IT )
here's a couple more photo's fom the "roll" for this morning.
A CSX train powered by a set of U23's at Blue Island
More CSX Uboats
Tom-Nice to see that you got your winterb wonderland for however long it lasts.That's the thing about march snowstorms they hit hard and fast but retreat justa s quickly.
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