G'day Gents!
Here's Part III of the Building of the S-Capades for this Wednesday's OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
S-Helper <ShowCase Line> MoPac F7A
Control center <note: wiring has been routed beneath the layout>
IC & MoPac
Landscaping begins with a tunnel <"blocked" to idle a complete train>
Completed structures from wood kits <hand painted>
More next week <maybe>!
Tom
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
DAVE Many thanks for the info on the Oregon electric cars. They certainly seem to be very well built cars.
ERIC I believe the Jubilee line got its name from the Queens Silver Jubilee of her reign in 1977 although I am not altogether certain.
Many thanks for the info on the DMUS; it is good that quite a few of those good-looking cars have been preserved. I hope some of the plain baggage cars were saved.
Surely you would come out in the snow to travel behind the steam locomotive in the photos later on in the post.
It seems the mystery of the Oregon Electric sleeping cars has been solved; it would be great to find out what happened to them in service with the Pacific Great Eastern Railway. I wonder if there are any photos existing of the sleeping cars in service with OE.
Thanks for photo of the PE car.
MIKE Many thanks for the link to that old British railway book. I will have a good look after I have posted this.
TOM Let me get this right, the double date with Helga and Rob with Hilda is on, and it will involve a disco.
Yes I was lucky to find that photo of # 8786 an old looking diesel to me, it was not running at the time and my guess it was being used by those who are working on the track in the area. I wonder if I can get the bride to go down to Pat's to see if it is still there.
I do enjoy traveling on the Underground when it runs overground away from Central London. Yes I have heard the Channel is one of the busiest waterways in the world.
Many thanks for the next installment of the building of the S-Capades. The locomotives and stock look good even on the bare boards. That is a great job with the hand painted kits especially when the photo is enlarged.
I hoped you would enjoy the photo of the Class 156 DMU in the snow. The 156s were built by Metro-Cammell and to me the best of the 2nd generation of BR DMUs, before the faster 158s came in. They must have been a good unit as they were trusted with the Kyle and the far north line in the highlands of Scotland.
The reason we were at Sheffield was we were on a steam tour. The tour was named The Yorkshireman and was on February 23rd 1994. The steam loco was Ex Southern Railway rebuilt West Country class 4-6-2 No 34027 TAW VALLEY. We traveled by service trains to Banbury where we picked up the special
34027 arriving at Banbury.
There was a problem with watering the locomotive at Derby and the snow was getting worse. An hour was allowed for watering so we went to the Brunswick Arms just down from Derby Station, we could see the loco in a bay being watered so as it got delayed we had more beer. After the loco moved off to rejoin the train we dashed off to catch it. In reaching Sheffield with the late running and the deteriorating weather it was decided to turn the train there instead of going on to Leeds as was the plan. The steam loco was due to come off at Leeds so we had a bit of a wait while the diesel came from Leeds. It was a wise decision as the weather was worst north of Sheffield
Well RUTH it is a bit quiet in the barso I 'll join you with another Bathams, I belive Eric is buying till this evening.
Pete.
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please.
Rob. It can be like living in a time warp down here in NZ, we are 17hrs ahead of US Eastern Standard Time so the time factor can be a bit confusing at times`. Sorry to hear you will not be making it to Rendezvous III, I would have loved to have made it there too. Enjoyed all the info and pics in your posts.
Eric. That diner at Eugene sounds a great place to visit. Thanks for that link to the Tornado loco site, it wiil be really great to see a brand new Pacific steam loco running again soon, Peppercorn was the last of the LNER engineers at the BR Nationalisation in 1948, he was a prodigy of Sir Nigel Gresley who produced the Flying Scotsman and the famous A4 streamlined Pacifics, the Tornado will be a very nostalgic loco. Nice pic and info on those DMU`s,, our local Tyneside electric trains were the same colour in the 50`s.
Mike. Was in with a great selection of URL`s on Abe Lincoln and NY pics and a great link to an old Brit railway book, thanks for that mate.
CM3. Was in with some interesting details on Mikes URL`s.
Pete. Will have a search to see if their`s a link to the "Locomotion" NRM outpost at all. Most of my old school mates ended up working at Swan Hunters or Parsons Steam Turbine works in Wallsend, their were also two other big yards in the local area, North Eastern Marine and Vickers Naval Yard, Swan Hunters is no more now! Enjoyed all your write up`s and pics, nice pics of West Country #34027 trip and the DMU with lots of Tom`s favourite snow.
Dave. Some very interesting info on the Oregon Electric that Eric mentioned, that`s what`s so great about "Our" place.
Fergie. Was back aboard, hope your weather is improving.
Tom. Enjoyed your comments about all the cars you`ve owned, even Jaguar is a Ford product now and Land Rover too, who`d have thought! Really enjoyed your very informative write up on the London Tube system, it was very comprehensive and full of detail, at Piccadilly Circus interchange you had to make real sure you followed the line colour code system or else you went around in ever decreasing circles! Nice lot of pics of your S-Capades RR, no wonder Pete loves coming to visit you so often, you must have a great time together at your place? You will be amazed to hear that 15yrs is the age you can get a driving licence in NZ, which is far to young in most peoples thinking, the farming lobby group in NZ, which is VERY strong politically, supports this age so their kids can drive themselves to High school from the rural areas` instead of hanging around for the school bus service. Hope you are going to get LOTS of that WHITE stuff!
See ya, Allan
Well good evening my lovelies and a happy valentines day to you all...hmmm-perhaps I should approach this a bit differently........well-you know what I mean.......................
Just passed Helga on the way in-assumed she was on her way to another modelling gig for a surgical appliance catalog until I read the last few days pages--TOM-you are turning down the chance of a lifetime there mate -however ,in deference to your finer feelings (coupled with my widely known willingness to *%$! a snake if I can find a way to prop open the jaws) I am more than happy to act as your champion in this matter ( to quote the ,sadly very mortal,Big Bopper-"Well helloooo BABY"...... )
O.K then-Leon a large and soothing bottle of Starop please dear boy,for `tis been a long few days-set `em up for the regular barflys and my hot date for the night (ooh-the anticipation....)will have the Keith Richards pre-show cocktail ( 8oz vodka,1oz cranberry juice) with her own personal twist-the faintest soupcon of methylated spirit.............and a bag of chilli chips to nibble on.
The highlight of the roadtrip was monday afternoon,when the girls(Missisnick,her mum & small Hannah) went ice skating after depositing me outside the main entrance to Guildford station,camera in hand.
Had assumed that this would be a fairly quiet outpost where I could wander onto the platform more or less unnoticed and take the odd snap of passing trains between chapters of an improving book (Bill Bryson`s "Notes from a small island"-as good this time round as on first reading ) however-this was not to be-the whole place is hyper security concious,all platform access is tightly controlled-enquiries to the ticket attendant resulted in calls to the station master and a reluctant issue of a pass on the condition that I make no pix of the South-west trains logo or any members of staff.........go figure...
Once inside the fence,the following discoveries were made-1-its a bloody big station-8 platforms (1 is a N. facing bay,2 is a thru road,although most services seem to be ex-london trains that terminate and reverse via a crossover at the N. end,3,4&5 are thru London -Portsmouth and return,6 is down Reading-Gatwick,7 is not used (the other side of a single track served by 6) and 8 is the return up Gatwick-Reading. 2-quiet-in the 2 hours i spent there there was a train at least every 5 minutes--the principal server is the above mentioned S.W.T whose trains wear a delightfully vivid range of liveries-a mix of candy-apple red,a rich mid blue or a startling white with blue trim in a variety of formations-either 3 car,5 car or multiples of 4 cars-the Gatwick services are run by First Great Western ( the franchise on the Paddington-Wales/West country lines) who favour a purple/pink livery not unlike the early GO Train colours,before they switched to the `toothpaste` mint green and white.
All trains run on 3rd rail electric and are clean,almost silent and have ferocious acceleration away from a stop.
Luckily it was one of those rare spring days when there was not a cloud in the sky and I`m hoping I have caught some good pix-the low angle of the sun was lighting the stock perfectly and once I`d figured this and got across to platform 7/8 I should have the light behind me-we shall see.....
To add some human interest ,when I first arrived and was checking out locations for pix ,I fell into conversation with the driver of the 13.45 up to Waterloo who allowed as he would be quite happy to spend a couple of hours sitting in the sun taking pix and would I like to take the train up to the smoke and back instead of him-Lordy,if I thought he had meant it.........(ok-push the lever forward for go and pull it back for stop,red means stop,yellow means slow down,green means line clear.............) was really helpful about where I might find some freight action (not there sadly) and I suspect,would have given me a ride in the cab up to wherever it was (gawd bless ya mate..) is nice to know that there is still a link between drivers and `anoraks` like myself -a pint for you mate anytime you are passing !!!!!!!
Well chaps-please excuse the rudeness but I am too spangled after spending all afternoon driving at 95 mph into the setting sun (and seeing the sun go down behind the Port Talbot steelworks thru a haze of pollution is like being on the set of Bladerunner) to do the proper I3 thing (although there is loads of good stuff there that I am determined to catch up on )-the one comment I will make is --V.W`s---just gotta love `em .................
Right-looks like my hot date has finished her drink(fancy a nightcap sweetie-what-just the meths then...whatya mean we are goin dancing-the Mentor Palace Ballroom-you mean it`s still open ?--Boris-follow at a distance -I may have need of you later-wish me luck chaps-TOM-remember-I`m doing this for you.....................................
Take care my darlings-speak soon,Nick
Good evening Leon , I think keith's will do me this evening I leave a bit extra should Nick survive his "date".
Tom-What's to say looks like we both have survived not having to go on that date. Bless Nick he should have free booze for at least a couple hours whatdyathink
Just a ton of good info in those three 20fingers- esk posts on the tube 5xI must admit I got a giggle from the bit about them finding parts on ebay. Imagine being paid by a major transit company to scour ebay for spare parts,a dream job for some I suppose.
When your in your LHS's look at the new model power cars in HO alot of what you once had are available accept for the Studebaker,though I'm sure that someone must make a Champion.Nice to see part three of the S-capades again,I'm still amazed at the neat wiring harnesses they have for them.BTW got teh emails responded to one already
Just wondering did you have the big afro perm to go along with the platform shoes and wide collored,polyester leisure suit from your disco days (daze)
Fergie-I hope you missd the worst of that filthy weather I know we got hammered pretty good again yesterday
Allan-I confuse easily at anyrate,must make travel abroad a nightmare with that much time difference,would make trip planning a bit of a logistical nightmare as well.
Eric-Again thanks for teh dmu info at least soem were saved for posterity. The Volvo plant that was in halifax/Dartmouth closed many years ago,Fergie could likely give you the exact date but it has to be 15 or twenty years now.I remeber the reasons given at teh time was lack of sales,that plant was supposed to supply the needs of the North American market,but it was actually overproducing for the demand so the production was moved back to Europe.The cars just alst too long. Funny story my Aunt had an ols 240 wagon bought it new in 1981 or 82.She had always maintained it to teh specs at teh dealership in Kingston where she lives. In 1994 she had a transmitiion failure an figured it was time to trade it in,it was a minor fix and they sent her on the way the salesman she spoke to at the time about the trade was the same guy she bought the car from in the first place. He told her why there was nothing wrong with her car so she drove it until last summer when she did trade it in on a new wagon ( yup same salesman )
Pete-That was an interesting engine in that photo. That company is called Larry's Truck Electric. They buy old loco's refurbish them and then lease them out to shortlines industries sometimes mainline rail companies as well. That particular loco is by the looks of it anyway an SW1200,probably built originally in the late 50's by EMD. great shots of that steam train in the snow,I'm sure it was a tough chore having to weather the weather in the pub while they serviced the loco
Dave-Good to see you back again. I wonder if any of those ugly GP40TR's still exist today,I ahd heard that a few of them had been sold to Boise/MPI for rebuilding into green goats or whatever else they are frankenbuilding at their plant.Thanks for the follow up info on those interurbans. I remeber seeing some photo's of those two sleeper ones after they were sold to PGE, their motors were removed and PGE used them as regular passenger cars for many years.
Nick-Sounds like you had an enjoyable week,no arrests and a date with Helga what more could one ask for.I do hope your photo's trun out and that you got an address or phone number for that wonderfull crewman sounds like you found that one in a million "old school" railroader
Rob
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, just a double cheeseburger, please.
Kind of quiet day today here at the bar! But still some interesting stuff to check out.
Fergie – Hope you made it back home from school before the storm hit. Tom – So you met Helga in Southamton???! Then you two have a lot to talk about on your date!!Volvo will very likely be bought by some Swedish investors pretty soon according to what I've heard. Some models are built in Ghent, Belgium, and some in Gothenburg, Sweden, where Volvo’s Headquarter is located. As a matter of fact, Volvo had an assembly plant in Halifax a number of years ago! Rob thinks it was closed 15-20 years ago. Volvo V70 is built both in Gothenburg and Ghent. More info on this link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_CarsInteresting to see how you built that S-gauge layout, especially since I have seen it finished and in operation. Looking forward to next week!
Received email, thank you!Mike – You are right about Volvo! Very Swedish.Pete – Yes, now I remember. The Jubilee Line got its name from the Queen’s Silver Jubilee! http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/jubilee/I took a quick look but could not find ny pictures of OE sleeping cars. I will try again later. In the book I have, I found a picture of a sleeping car of the Interstate Public Service Company. They had three sleeping cars that operated between Louisville and Indianapolis for eight years. Illinois Railway Museum has an interurban sleeping car from Illinois Terminal. Wish Doug was here to tell us more about it. More snowy photos! Thanks for showing!Allan – I agree, that restaurant is a great place to visit! I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again, I have to check if I can find any photos from my visit. I will keep an eye on that Tornado site to see when things are starting to happen! Nick – Seems like you had a pretty nice and interesting Monday afternoon at Guildford station! Ferocious acceleration? Electrics usually have a good acceleration. As an instructor I used to demonstrate max acceleration of a Class Rc1 electric locomotive when we were doing the ATC-training. Just the loco and starting from 0 with full power was like getting a very hard kick in the back. 0-100 km’h took just a few seconds. Very impressive (and fun)! Thanks for your report! Class Rc1, Swedish State Railways. The more modern Rc2-Rc6 (look the same) have anti-spin curcuits that will limit the acceleration.
Rob – Thanks for the info on the Volvo assembly plant in Halifax! Yeah, they (the Volvos) tend to last. I bought a brand new Volvo 740 in 1985, drove it for ten years, sold it to my boss and he is still driving it. Eric
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Page 183 - Mike (wanswheel) at 7:53 AM: VW Beetle heat was never a problem - even in summer. <ugh> Volvo is as Swedish as Eric - just doesn't say so anymore.
Round appreciated.
Page 184 - Pete (pwolfe) at 4:03 PM: Two days with long periods of drought - this keeps up ‘n I'm gonna go back to every other day with the acknowledgments . . .
NO, NO, NO - I'm not going anywhere tonite other than "out" with my bride . . . H&H can "use" Rob as they see fit. <yikes> To do otherwise is to lend credibility to being SNOOKERED - by YOU ‘n Rob.
In my experiences the only other body of water that might rival the Channel might be the Florida Straits - extremely crowded ‘n one needs many "eyes" to navigate it safely . . .
You've got some Email . . . One received from you - thanx!
Nice fotos with narratives!
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
First car was a '56 Dodge 2-door hardtop. Hardtop. That's what they called a car without pillars.
It was always the first thing to move when the light turned green. Radio played Motown, 4 Seasons
Beach Boys, Roger Miller and British invasion stuff . I can't get no Satisfaction.
Oregon Electric page shows a sleeping car there
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Speaking of restaurants...
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Happy Valentines Day
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Finally caught up with the Posts from last nite ‘n early this AM . . . so, where were we
Page 184 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:55 PM: No doubt that the Oregon Electric Railway restaurant is indeed a fine place to dine - first time for me was in 1987. The bride has never been there, so when we are in Eugene this spring, we'll be sure to take it in - most probably twice.
Yes, when Ford acquired Jaguar <and Land Rover>, I'm sure it shook the national psyche in the UK pretty much the way it must've happened in Sweden in Jan 1998 when Volvo cars was bought out. An American company actually OWNING those "standards" of the Euro auto industry. But nothing remains the same in this old world of ours ‘n now as the tides have gone out on the U.S. auto manufacturers, there's talk of "sell" in the air. Ford has announced that it will divest itself of those Euro cars once a suitable buyer can be found.
An aspect of the Can-Am trainroom ‘n layouts is that they've all been melded into what we say ‘n do at "Our" Place. So that when any of the guys visit, well - it's almost like an extension of what we do here. Pretty unique, I'd say - but great fun. I'm sure you'd get a kick out of it. Of course, one can't really take in all of the sights ‘n sounds without visiting the beer fridge . . . <uh oh>
Fifteen is no way, no how justified for personal responsibility when behind the wheel of a car. Crazy - absolutely crazy. Shame on those who came up with that hair brained idea . . . <barf> Let ‘em ride the buses - after all you're paying taxes to run ‘em! <geesh> When I see lines ‘n lines of traffic in the AM ‘round here, mostly driven by kids going to school it occurs to me that we the taxpayers are getting ripped off, big time. We pay for the roads - we pay for the schools - we pay for the EXTRA parking lots required to hold the cars of the "little darlings" ‘n of course pay for the half-full school buses burning all of that expensive petrol. <triple barf>
Well, I'm WOUND TIGHT this day! <grin> So, best knock it off . . .
Email received 'n chin is UP! <grin> Thanx . . .
Thanx for the visit, < I3 > Post ‘n ROUND!
Page 184 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 8:04 PM: Not complaining, but surprised at the vigor of your visits to the Bar by the Ballast. You're back in full-form, so it seems.
WHAT A MAN! Kinda hoped you'd "jump" at the opportunity to escort Helga to The Second Class Saloon for a "big <understatement> nite out! I hear Spyrogira ‘n the Green Slugs are performing tonite . . .
The saying goes ‘round here is somewhat similar - ". . . . if it doesn't wiggle." <grin>
Mere mention of the Big Bopper brings to mind some happy thoughts from my early adulthood . . . saw J.P. Richardson perform at a few New York City Rock ‘n Roll shows, hosted by Alan Freed <NY DJ supreme of the day>
Guess he's <Big Bopper> more known for two things: Chantilly Lace <1958 song> and being one of several victims in a 1959 plane crash <Buddy Holly ‘n Ritchie Valens died that day too>. Which of course some say became immortalized in lyrics when Don McLean came up with American Pie, which was rumored to be the name of the plane that went down. The song was a tribute to those three perfomers - Buddy Holly being the most notable. Yeah, you flicked a switch with that one . . .
Many thanx for your "report" on your brief holiday with loved ones . . . those have to be the best of times. Cherish ‘em Mate, time has a way of movin' on . . .
Can only imagine the exhilaration of just thinking about being in the cab - in control - and so forth. Yeah, there still are some decent chaps about - just have to seek ‘em out, or they you. Too many people cluttering up the opportunities, methinks. <groan>
So you're a 2nd time book reader too, eh I really "dig" reading ‘em again - not all mind you, but those that have a certain "captivation" of mind ‘n spirit. Let a bunch of years pass by ‘n it's almost as if you're reading it for the first time. Wonder if it's like that with old flames . . . <uh oh> Just wondering - nothing more! <geesh>
Looking forward to the "report" of the "date" - whataguy!
Many thanx for the fine contribution to the day's material - really a "positive" having you back - ROUND appreciated, as always! ]
Page 184 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:09 PM:
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Ruth my deAH, a Happy Valentines Day to all with sweethearts ‘n wives. A toast: May they nevAH meet! CHEERS!
So, you radiant beauty, let's get on with where we left off, shall we <blush> Of course I'm talking about a Larsman hero sandwich of ham, Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH with two extra large ‘n crunchy pickles from the barrel. Treats for the crittAHs ‘n when you're done feedin' ‘em Boris, take that LARGE jar of PPF back to your shed ‘n "go for it"!!
A round on the Manager ‘n of course keep the change!
A bit too much material for me to make any meaningful comment on since my last visit. Let me just offer that many thanks go out to the "core - plus one" of this fine establishment for keeping on keeping on - that's Pete - Rob - Eric - Shane ‘n Allan with honorable mention to the periphery guys, who know who they are.
Did pick up on the "Contest" so let me submit my guesstimate: March 21st for Cap'n Tom . . . Sorry Fergie, you gotta READ all the woIds in ordAH to play the game!
Of course couldn't help but notice some fine material from Cap'n Tom (surprise of suprises!) That was some effort with the London subway series, along with so many, many othAHs! Also another fine S-Capades post! And can't forget the drumheads - it goes on ‘n on!
Still irks me a lot to notice the ignorance-factAH still alive ‘n well at the bar when some just refuse to make mention of your efforts.
I'm going to drop off another round of book covAHs from the Larsman Mobile, then get going with the mattAHs that require my attention. Sarge The Mrs. is barking ordAHs as I type . . . <groan>
Union Pacific and Omaha Union Station
Twin Cities by Trolley
Lima - The History
Southern Railway, Vol 2
Southern Pacific Historic Diesels
Soo Line - From Michigan to Montana
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And now for the "other shoe" - this is my final post at the bar, at least for the foreseeable futAH. As explained to Cap'n Tom over the phone ‘n by email (which probably has been forwarded to the "core group"), circumstances have ganged up on me ‘n I'm simply no longAH able to devote the time it takes for full participation ‘round here.
Best to the gang at "Our" Place, MOST ESPECIALLY to all who have stuck it out thru thick ‘n thin over the two-plus years since I first walked through those doors. Many have come ‘n gone, but guys like Pete, Eric ‘n Shane have nevAH given up on the place - not evAH. They've NEVAH been rude, ignorant or lacking in the social graces to ACKNOWLEDGE the works of othAHs - especially the efforts of our leader, Cap'n Tom! A GOLD 5- to youse guyz!
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We had about one inch of "passing clouds" last night - love it when the Weather Channel gets poetic - which made for some interesting driving. It's all gone now and the temperature has rebounded into the 40s - it was between +12 and +15 this a.m.
Let's see what's on the table today.
Contest enry - March 8 - Rob
Nick was by with an interesting description of his "day out." I always take reading material with me for times between rail activity.
Allan stopped in with comments.
Eric - I appreciated your comment about training demos - we did similar things with Detcord. Now there's another story for the Rendezvous.
Pete was by with information. I enjoyed the picture of the 156 DMU
Dave - Good afternoon, sir.
Mike - There he is! Ol' Sandow himself! A good combination of speed and some power for the dead ball era - somebody like that would earn a pretty fair chunk of change today. Would be an ideal #2 hitter.
There were some good B&A shots (then and now) in the links that you forwarded. The B&A a1 shows a Berkshire in its native habitat. The track layout at Palmer was a little more complicated back then.
The 1950s pictures were a time machine back to my formative days of following the railroad. The RS3 with the air tank on the top of the hood - my, my!
Check out the picture of CV4551 - let's see we have two CV color schemes. Look closer - every piece of power and rolling stock in the photo is a fallen flag.
The CV cabs are the last type they had - Canadian design, for certain.
Last - a nice selection of advertising.
Lars - Take it easy, friend.
OSPs postings should be called "Notes From the Underground," But I believe that the title is already taken. Interesting reading about the tunnels and their impact on equipment - somewhat similar to Boston - as different lines have somewhat different sized equipment. Man, you could spend a ton of cash riding that system if you didn't know how the fare system worked. I appreciated the comment about the Orient Express - however, I'll bet the Orient has a better diner (lol). Also enjoyed the construction pictures for your S scale system. It's always interesting to see how folks put layouts together; 4.0 job on the structures, too.
Well, I better get out of here. Lateness of this post reminds me of the old guy who went to the Post Office to pick up his mail. Postmaster told him, "The train was late so yesterday's mail wasn't delivered until today, and today's mail will be delivered tomorrow - maybe."
Work safe
To say that a "star" has diminished in intensity here in cyber space would be an understatement. The withdrawal of Lars as an active participant in the daily shenanigans at "Our" Place is a loss that perhaps will never fully be recouped for however many months we have remaining . . . CHEERS to the Larsman! <clink> Five- to you, Mate! We wish you 'n your Mrs. fair winds 'n following seas . . .
Here's a rare mid-week ENCORE! presentation - this one initially Posted by Lars, the man called LoveDomes, on Page 90, Aug 2nd, 2007 . . . .
Dome carFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Former California Zephyr dome car in excursion train service with the Inland Lakes Railway -- Plymouth, Florida.A dome car is a type of railway passenger car that can include features of a lounge car, dining car and an observation. Its primary feature is a glass dome on the top of the car where passengers can ride and see in all directions around the train. Seats in the dome were considered "non-revenue" like lounge car seats. When dome cars operate today in excursion trains, the dome seats often command a premium fare.ConfigurationA plan view diagram of the Challenger dome car, built in 1958 by Pullman-Standard as Union Pacific Dome Coach #7015, the last such car built.A portion of the car, usually in the center of the car, is split between two levels, with stairs leading both up and down from the train's regular passenger car floor level. The lower level of the dome usually contained the car's restrooms or a small lounge area, while the upper portion was usually coach or lounge seating within a "bubble" of glass on the car's roof. Passengers in the upper portion of the dome were able to see in all directions from a vantage point above the train's roofline.On some dome cars, the lower portion was outfitted with a galley, where car attendants used dumbwaiters to transfer items between the galley and a dining area in the dome portion of the car.HistoryThe upper level interior of a dome car that has been configured as a dining area, on display at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin.Although the design of a dome car can be likened to a cupola caboose, the dome car's development is not directly related. The earliest documented predecessor of the dome car was first developed in the 1880s; known at the time as the "birdcage car", it was used on an 1882 sightseeing tour on the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad. In 1891, T. J. McBride received a patent for a car design called an "observation-sleeper"; illustrations of the design in Scientific American at the time showed a car with three observation domes. Canadian Pacific Railway used "tourist cars" with raised, glass-sided viewing cupolas on their trains through the Canadian Rocky Mountains in the 1920s.These dome car designs did not prove successful, and further refinements to the idea didn't come for a few decades. The first successful dome cars were conceived by Cyrus Osborn of General Motors Electro-Motive Division (EMD). In 1944, while traveling in an EMD-built Rio Grande locomotive through Glenwood Canyon in Colorado, Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:46 PM Hi Tom and allA pint of Bathams please RUTH.ALLAN It really is sad to think of those once great shipyards especially those on the Clyde and the Tyne that are no more.I wonder if the Parson's turbine manufacturers are still in business I bet at one time there was a Parson's Turbine in Power Stations all over the world.Glad you are enjoying the photos. On that day with Taw Valley we were starting to worry a bit if we would be able to get home, I think if we had gone much father north we would have been in trouble.NICK Helga is over the moon with her new date I think Tom owes you big.Enjoyed reading about your time at Guildford station, one that seemed to have a ‘funny' atmosphere the very few times I have been there, no idea why though. Glad you met a friendly train driver it is good to know they are still about.Looking through my photo album I never once had anyone say anything about taking photos from the stations, it seems all that as changed nowadays sadly. I will look forward to your photos..I have not found the photo of 53809the 2-8-0 Midland railway design for the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway on the main line, but some on the Midland Railway Centre. The loco is wearing its LMS number of 13809The first two photos are a Hammersmith at the west end of the preserved line.This next photo is at Swanwick Junction the site of the museum and engine sheds on the MRC. They should enlargeROB Many thanks for the info on 8786 owned by Larry's. So the loco is 50 years old now it looked like it I really liked the head light with the locos number on it.Glad you enjoyed the photo of 34027 in the snow. Yes the Brunswick Arms in Derby is a great real ale pub in an old railway institute building with small rooms. A short walk from Derby station. It was great watching steam drifting from the engine while enjoying good ale.Good luck with HILDA tonightERIC Thanks for the link to the Jubilee line, I see the cars were built at the same factory as the 156 units in my recent photo, the ex Metro-Cammell factory in Birmingham now sadly closed. I will have to travel on the line when I am over there if I can, as the overground part of the line sounds interesting.I am finding it fascinating about these interurban sleeping cars many thanks for finding out the info on them, I wonder if any got preserved.I bet it was a good experience during the trials with the Rc1 and the rapid acceleration. Thanks for the photo.MIKE Many thanks for that great link to the Oregon Electric with a photo of their sleeping car #1010 and the Champoeg car is very elegant.I wonder what that machine is in the first link showing Amtrak #4.Great ‘heart' railway ads for today. CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos.Many thanks for the info on Mikes links, did you notice what looks like a portable steam engine in the link with Amtrak #4. LARS You will be very much missed at the bar, I know I shall miss the posts, with the comments always worth reading and the great ideas like the Larsman Mobile and the wonderful kn trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:58 PM Good evening Leon my good man.Nice heart shaped bowtie and matching cumberbun a gift from Hilda you say,your a luckey man she isn't always that giving. I think I'll sample some of Copperkettles fish n chips what the heck some mushy peas as well Boris likes it when I give mine to him,I think a nice Keith's to wash it down with. Here's some extra for a round for the rest of Daboyz as well First off a hearty good bye and god speed for the Larsman and his family. I can only barely fill his slippers, never his shoes. It's been an honour to interact with you,I wish we coulda met,might still Anytime that you have for us will be well welcomed and anticipated when you can. A five salute for you da bars greatest customer.Tom-What can I say you were able to manouver outta the date,howeevr as Pete has noticed the girls think they are more sought after now than ever. I just have to say that the second calss will no longer be the same,not a dry eye left in that house ( Helga's new perfume O'de pepper spray )Not many left standing a swell. typical for the girls they satyrted and finished a brawl,even Mountain man Mike was in tears. I had lost sight of Nick in the melee last I saw him he was flying towards the fire exit amidst the debris and tangled limbs,still clutching his pint which was amazingly unspilled Looks as though Vito and his Boyz may be buying and renovating the second class,that's the word in the alley anyway. I'm glad to see Lar's dome post again today a fitting tribute to he who loves the domes the most In an completely unrealated note,I heard today that teh NHL is contemplating another big outdoor game next year. The odd's on favourite is to put ice into Soldier field in Chicago and teh game wll be the Blackhawks and the Redwings , won't that be a sight if it happens.Pete-I think you will find alot of those old SW's had those leftover from steam days style headlights with the loco number on them. theer was that timeframe when the railroad pundits deemed that switchers were the only viable use for diesel engines ,times do change.As rough as that unit looks those old 567 series diesels were tough nuts to crack,properly maintained they will out last the locomotive. I can't imagine what Liverpool and the other big shipbuilding centre in the UK must be like now.Amazing as to how many of those old firms are gone or drastically smaller scale than they were not sixty years ago. When you think that in the earlier part of the century those slipways were turning out Battleships and ocean liners faster than they could be crewed. I suppose alot like parts of Pennsylvania where the steel mills have come and gone,at one point with those industries it ws unthinkable that they could fail and fade away.great dome shot BTW Eric-Thanks for the info on those Swedish state railway electrics,not at all supprising the speed at which they do pick up speed. Even operating our cars at the museum it's amazing as to how fast they get up and go.Mike-Some good and on side urls as always Cm3-What ho, isn't just neat how Mike was able to pull those old baseball urls out of his magic bag of urls.Rob EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, February 15, 2008 12:43 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, a number 5 Special Dual Double Combo and a cold Keith's, please! Round for the house!Some things to study and discuss here tonight.Tom – I’ve had about 30 different cars in my life and my very favorite was my Pontiac Grand Prix SE, 1989. It had everything!!! I had it for two years, but sold it when I moved here. Hope you had a wonderful date with Helga!!! Did she come along to Oslo? Did you tell Manager Lars? This is getting more and more interesting!Thanks for re-posting Lars’ old post with the article on Dome cars and their history! I can understand that the dome area was regarded a non-revenue area. Interesting!Email received and responded to.Mike – ‘56 Dodge hardtop were very good looking cars! My very favorite when it comes to good looking cars is De Soto hardtop 1958!!! Thanks for all links! Older photos of regular trains and Valentine railroad ads! Lars – It is a sad day here at the bar today! No matter what, you will always be the Manager! And I hope we will see you every now and then even in the future!A bunch of interesting books, as usual! I’ll pick Southern Pacific Historic Diesels. I think it says volume 6. It is sad to read the second part of your post but I understand that you have to do what you have to do. Thanks for the nice words! We will do our best to train the new Manager, but you will always be the Senior Manager of this place! I am sure Rob will do a great job though. Looking forward to see you as often as possible in the future! My best to you and the Mrs! Ruth just told me that she has asked for a raise so she can fly out to the east coast more often! I wonder why? Hmmm. By the way, you have to keep an eye on the number of pages and post when page #200 is due, so I’ll win the contest. CM3 – Interesting driving? I guess that is one way to say it. One inch of snow is not bad though. Detcord? I’ll remember to ask about it in May. Pete – As I mentioned yesterday, IRM has one interurban sleeping car. I think that is the only one left. The acceleration demonstrations with the Rc1 was fun. It is amazing how fast those locomotives can accelerate! Nice photos! Where did you take the picture of the UP Dome car?Rob – Seems like you had a good time at the Second Class Saloon! I heard that Vito would like to hire Manager Lars as the new Second Class Saloon manager! Heading for Albany, NY.Eric Fergmiester Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Out on the Briny Ocean Tossed 4,240 posts Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, February 15, 2008 5:13 AM Good Morning Captain Tom and Sundry!I'll have a Western to go please and thanksLarsman... What can I say... Though short our relationship I have noticed you have been a major contributor in this here fine establishment and I know your absence will have a major impact. So sir my hat is off to you! And a hefty round of Kieth's to all so we may raise a toast in your honour.Well this is exam day for me as I finish up my 2 week Rescue Specialist course which will free up a whole lotta time for ... dare I say it... house painting #%$&^ I hate to paint!!!Anyway after studying the body's circulatory system yet again I am now wondering (once again) on how I can re-arrange the the MESS. If I do so it will no longer be the MESS it will be the Super MESS!And Finally put me down for March 21st and I believe it to be our beloved Capt'n Tom who will hit our Milestone.Later AllFergie http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959 If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007 siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Friday, February 15, 2008 6:49 AM <personal foto> Friday's GrinReason "things" happen!Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are. G'day Gents!Not much to say - you know the "drill" . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *CONTEST Participants thus far: (1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)CONTEST closes on Monday . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Thursday - Feb 14th: <all times Central standard>Page 184 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:46 AM: Adieu, mon ami! Page 184 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:58 PM.Page 184 - Pete (pwolfe) at 4:46 PM.Page 184 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:58 PM.Friday - Feb 15th: Page 184 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:43 A.M. Page 184 - Fergie (Fergmiester) at 5:13 AM.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Friday, February 15, 2008 10:29 AM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the houseGood old Lars. He puts so much energy into everything he does. Came in loaded for bear and true to character went out with a bang. One thing for certain though, he's going to continue to monitor the thread. Betcha a million bucks he's reading this right now. Hi Lars. You haven't been gone long enough for me to miss you yet but Tom seems to kind of got the blues already. Take your time, but hurry back. By the way, thank you for supporting the troops with the ribbon in your signature line. One of them is my nephew-in-law, married to my niece, serving in Iraq with the Maryland National Guard. They got little kids who can't quite figure out where Daddy disappeared to. Here's a video clip about Domeshttp://www.chinaconcepts.net/video/domecarmagic01op.jpghttp://youtube.com/watch?v=2baVBWMJ0OsMike JanOlov Member sinceDecember 2001 From: GB 376 posts Posted by JanOlov on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:49 AM Salutations Tom and fellow Bar enthusiasts.... I hope that all with all and everybody here....May I have an extra cold Guinness please and a Laphroaig...? Work has been unussually busy this time of year so I DO apologise for my AWOL...I'll take it that it's just for me to grab the cleaning materiel and start on the brass, spitoons, light fixtures and everything else...$$$$, $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad train No. 4, the Pioneer Limited, passes near Deerfield, Illinois on June 22, 1946.siberianmo 01-29-2008, 8:29 PM: 3,500th reply...!? Woohooo! I totally missed that..! Sorry about that....THAT is some beautiful SP heralds...! Classy....!MopacBarrettTunnel 01-29-2008, 9:38 PM: Tell me about it....Been travelling so much on the "Beer Line", that they decided to give me a special ticket....Great pics...!pwolfe 01-29-2008, 10:00: BR diesleshave their unique looks, that's for sure, but WHAT is that thing on the nose??Another great set of pics..!EricX2000 01-30-2008, 1:20 AM: True indeed mate, cars and trains and what not that was designed back then, some of them still look modern today....Not to mention this lovely lassie, great pics!Second No. 2, the Empire Builder glides through Summit, Montana on August 5, 1938. siberianmo 01-30-2008, 12:30 PM: What is that CN machine...a diesel?siberianmo 01-30-2008, 3:32 PM: GREAT post...!Da Larsman 01-30-2008, 5:20 PM: Never get tired of your covers....WP=tasty..!wanswheel 01-30-2008, 9:46 PM: Great post and links..!A Northern Pacific train travels over Bozeman Pass, June 1939.pwolfe 01-31-2008, 3:43 AM: Imformative post indeed...I've always wondered about the signals etc put up at the front of the locomotives here on the islands...EricX2000 01-31-2008, 5:50 AM: Is that your machines and layout Eric?trolleyboy 01-31-2008, 2:37 PM: Is there any of those great old RS diesles still in use in Canada, museums or shortlines etc.?? siberianmo 01-31-2008, 4:28 PM: Now we're talking real trolleys here....great pics!Map of Northern Pacific's route circa 1900.pwolfe 01-31-2008, 8:51 PM: So the locomotives in these fine pics are American built then?EricX2000 02-01-2008, 1:11 AM: Who was that had that train The Greatest Show On Earth??trolleyboy 02-01-2008, 3:15 AM: NICE pics of those locos TB...DL&W and Erie-Lackawanna, eh? coalminer3 02-01-2008, 3:58 PM: Great post mate!<<<<<<------ Having a short break here------>>>>>>The Southern Pacific Company's Bay City ferry plies the waters of San Francisco Bay in the late 19th century.DL - UK 02-01-2008, 6:27 PM: Trying my very best, even though when I write this one, I'm totally knackered...people off sick and on holiday's and short staffed that still nothing has been done about..... Tom and you guys deserve that much when I'm gone for a week or two, to know that I'm still thinking about you all....but 24 hours isn't enough hours for a day...siberianmo 02-01-2008, 8:50 PM: Timeless and classic railroad ads.....YUMMY!!More please!pwolfe 02-02-2008, 5:00 PM: Great post with some niiiice pics...!siberianmo 02-02-2008, 8:44 PM: Woow! Some really colorful passenger cars....Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD F3 #881A hauling a 4-car passenger train. Photographed at Mitchell, Illinois, June 30, 1951. This is an early F3 with Type I side panels. It is fitted with a steam generator for passenger-car heating, a freight pilot, and only a single headlight.trolleyboy 02-03-2008, 1:53 AM and 02-03-2008, 2:00 AM: Darn...! I missed the pics! Only wee red crosses now.EricX2000 02-03-2008, 6:20 AM: Interesting pics indeed!trolleyboy 02-04-2008, 3:54 AM: Interesting pics, what are they doing and where AND why?DL - UK 02-04-2008, 6:17 PM: Excellent post!1884 map of the Pennsylvania, Reading and Lehigh Valley RailroadsDD1 02-04-2008, 6:24 PM: Great post!< All the best! Jan DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Friday, February 15, 2008 12:29 PM Hello Tom and all I'll have a beer and a round for the house, plus check the menu.Been one heck of a week here busy wise - hence not been in so just catch up looking at the mo - just to call in to say hi to all and read through the pics etc - hopefully more time soon. Our place certainly not forgotten!Have a good week endDL coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, February 15, 2008 2:11 PM Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Here's my thought for the day. "If you can keep your wits about you while everyone else panics, you obviously don't appreciate the gravity of the situation." Just a short visit today as we started REAL early this a.m. Pete was by with comments and pictures.Rob - Another outdoor game? Too much, too soon, IMHO - NHL has never figured out this "marketing thing." Anyway, I'll take the Redwings by at least three goals.Eric - Nice shot of a r/b FL9. My first thought was that it might be train 449, but it may be 49 instead, given the cars. FL9s did not appear in Boston too often in later years although they were a fixture there when I was a pup. What's throwing me a little in the picture is the terrain, although there is some that looks like it between New York and Albany.DL and JanOlov were both in as well. OSP - Tough slot to fill, for sure - You put together a thoughtful tribute to the Larsman; good work, sir!Well. Better clean up (and put away) the equipment so we'll be ready for next time.Have a good weekend.Work safe pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Friday, February 15, 2008 2:56 PM Hi Tom and all.A pint of Bathams please RUTH.ROB Good words for Lars.It would have been good if that old SW had been running at the time, it really looked in great condition though.It is a very sad and a sobering thought about all the heavy industry that as disappeared. I think the worst thing is that the amount of money it would cost to re build, say a large steelworks, shipyard or engineering factory, would be tremendous and where they would get the skilled men from God only knows. I think we will pay for this in the future. Off to the Rat's Patoot Room for me for a while.So H&H had another great night out, what with their visit and the Darts Matches the poor old Second Class Saloon will never be the same, if Vito does buy it we will have to look out though.ERIC The dome cars were on the Wye that connects the main line to a branch that runs alongside Industrial Drive to serve some factories and warehouses here in Jefferson City. The bride spotted the cars as she came home from work; so we went down to see them. I believe the train was here to promote rail safety on grade crossings but was not open to the public. Heritage units did not haul the train though.I mis-read about the Interurban Sleeping Car at the IRM, they have got some really good exhibits there.I guess with the older electric locomotives the driver had a good deal more control over the acceleration than with the newer locos with their traction control.Great photo of the Amtrak GMD # 489.FERGIE I'll join in the toast to Lars if I may, good luck with the house painting.MIKE Many Thanks for the great video on U-Tube on the Dome Cars, really great photography with even some classic shots in color. Good piece on the Train of Tomorrow as well. I am sure Lars will enjoy it. JAN Good to see you in, sorry to hear that things are still very busy at your work.Glad you enjoyed my photos and posts. Really enjoyed the photos maps and posters, thanks for sharingDL I will look forward to your post, hopefully the work will ease a bit for you soon.CM3 Thanks for the info on the FP9 in Erics photo. Hope you enjoy the photos of one of the LMS's finest later in the post.TOM A while back we were talking about a steam hauled special train that was run to help raise funds for the Royal British Legion. I was lucky enough to be able to travel on the train. The steam locomotive was Sir William A. Stanier's Princess Royal class Pacific No 6201 Princess Elizabeth. The train ran along the North Wales coast with the steam locomotive running from Crewe to Holyhead and back.A photo of 6201 carrying the special headboard. These two photos were taken at Llandudno Junction, about half way along the coast line where 6201 took water. The first was on the outward run and this next one on the return.Before the special left Crewe the original destinctive nameplate 'British Legion' was on display the other nameplate s at the National Railway Museum at York. The locomotive that carried the name was Stanier's re-build of the high pressure compound locomotive Fury.It was placed in the Royal Scot class and numbered 46170 The rest of the Royal Scots were rebuilt the same as 46170. Well Ruth a round please and the Steak and Fries if H&H are fit enough to make itPete. siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Friday, February 15, 2008 3:11 PM G'day Gents!A far busier Friday than I would've imagined - has kept Ruth ‘n Boris busy, which all means <KaChing> <KaChing> for Tilla ‘n Cashinator! <grin>Some catch-ups in the Acknowledgment Department . . .Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>Page 184 - Mike (wanswheel) at 10:29 AM: Never knew of a guy who lost a million - but now I do! I KNOW what Lars is doing ‘n where's he's doing it at . . . the absolute last thing on his mind or within his ability to handle is the internet. Suggest you apply for a loan from the Mentor Village Second National Bank ‘n Not-so-Trust <Vito the Hit, President>. <uh oh>Enjoyed the dome link - very much! 4.0 "find" ‘n a <keeper> for "Our" Place! [tup ] Round appreciated! Page 184 - Jan (JanOlov) at 11:49 AM: A "voice" from the past <well not that far back . . .> as our Resident Swede in Scotland has returned with a Herculian effort of a catch-up acknowledgment. <triple wow> Takes quite a bit of time to go thru ‘em all . . . Answers: Yes - no - maybe - uhhhhhhh - don't know ‘n <geesh> Entry for the Contest noted - and I'm assuming you selected me as the person to get to Page 200. So you're "in" . . . .No <tweetable> OH-FEN-SEZ, however <tweekable> applies to the inflatables in Boris' Shed. <uh oh> <grin>Thoroughly AMAZED that you missed the most notable of news . . . <quadruple geesh>Thanx for Post, chock full ‘o fotos - generosities too! Page 184 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:29 PM: In for a penny . . . what's the diff It's the thought that counts! Great knowing you're still with us . . . bon weekend, Mate! [tup ]tup]Page 185 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:11 PM: A most profound "Thought for the day," wish I had said something like that "back in the day." <grin> There were so many opportunities . . . Many thanx for thinking ‘bout the bar in spite of the heavy work load . . . means a lot - as do the quarters ‘n ROUND! Relaxing weekend to ya, Mate! Page 185 - Pete (pwolfe) at 2:56 PM: An excellent <I3 > Post from the guy who knows HOW! Splendid fotos with descriptions - getting even better since your new scanner arrived! No stopping you now, eh Vito CAN'T buy the Second Class Saloon. There's a warrant out for him in that township - which isn't Mentor Village - it's Mountain Village ‘n he's persona non grata there. Translation: they don't like him. <uh oh>Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Have a great weekend . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Some one-liners:Pete: Love that "dome on dome" shot! Why is it "Fish & Chip" as opposed to chipS Don't get it . . . but at least you DO! <grin>Email received ‘n responded to . . . Thanx!Still baffled about your so-called "Contest" that you now say Nick has won. What in the world are you SMOKING <geesh> Rob: Happy Railroading! Siberianmo nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, February 15, 2008 7:58 PM Well gentlemen all-how are we this fine crisp day ?-Leon,it`s friday night and I am most definately in the chair-a close relative has been waiting on some test results which came back clear today so a little quiet satisfaction is in order I feel-Therefore I will have a large glass of the special rum-as I also have a stinker of a cold perhaps another large rum might help .??-and better have a bottle of Starop as well please old thing,just to wash it down with........Right then chaps-just been backtracking and worked out I havn`t interacted since last sat.,so will attempt a bullet-point type catch up:-SAT:-TOM-Yes indeed mate,the BNSF surely echoes the G.N livery-although for my money the BNSF always looks a touch `brash`-possibly the greater amount of orange-my Brit sensbilities are attuned to more muted combinations.....BTW-you do me too much credit R.E-FP40/59-I didn`t spot the difference-merely suggested the possibility,based on something I`d read--Oh Mr Porter:-I do indeed recall this gem at the Emporium but I`ve always felt that this film,with it`s many small sets,close camera work and the whole atmosphere that B&W film creates works best on a small screen for a select audience...ROB-Nice pix of work vehicles & #8-that first one -I`m sure The Manx Electric Rly on the Isle of Man have a very similar unit -will have a look about...LARS-Not sure if you will read this or not mate-Glad I made it back to shake hands and raise a glass before you hit the road ........touched by your words-my door is always open to friends,would be delighted to take you to some gigs,ride the few local trains and turn you onto the local scenery-along with the rest of the crew....Drop us all a line as soon as you are settled and we can have a housewarming party for you..PETE-Yes indeed -the Double Dragon is the flagship brew of the Felinfoel brewery located in the eponymous village just outside Llanelli-although that said,it`s entirely possible that the place has been bought out-I have a ghost of a memory here..........................hmmmmm-nice work with the heads up & pix of the S&D 7f`s-looked really well with those coaches ...Irish matters:-I finally hd to give up and check the inter-web thingy for those Swilly engines -they were from Hudswell-Clarke and were (I think) poss. the only narrow gauge tender locos to run in Ireland--Rosslare services-Last time I was there,the only `spot` I had on that section was the evening Rosslare-Waterford service which was a 4 car DMU,identical to the units I had seen over in Co. Kerry earlier that week,arriving at Waterford-there were also a pair of very scruffy G.M units in black/orange down on the quay tracks......U-Tube-don`t be deceived dear boy-what you hear isn`t always what happened-in this instance it was,although not the `Blair witch` hand held camera thing that appears-the music was all being recorded onto a hard drive via a 16 track desk (you can see some of the mics in the video) and was synched in to the film afterwards (and is still about 1/64th of a beat out-irritates me every time I see itLive at Leeds-now theres an album-how could they go from a standing start straight into "Heaven & Hell" like that ??-will check with the boys -I`m sure there must be some way I can send you the `Tommy` show-might have to do it in bits.....Right -thats last sat.-bear with me here-it might take a while.................... trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:55 PM Good evening Leon I see that you've had the less busy shift for the day but that's okay between you and Boris the bar room looks wells wept and Boris and the umm Girls have got the pans and the kitchen sparkling.Nice to see all the critters are tucked in for the night all in all a good day yes Boris you can have a small PPF.So since all is happy i think I'll have a nice Guiness and here's some for a round for the morning partakers Tom-G'day sir looks like a nice busy day not so much tonight but hey most of the cast 'o' characters 'n' customers were in today so alls good Looks like the NHL is going to make the outside games a yearly tradition on New years day,going to have to stay to the colder cities.Chicago should be a good choice , I'd still like to see an outdoor one in Montreal with Toronto and Montreal but that wouldn't sell well SOTB so likely won't happen at least not as long as the league is rulled by the suits in NYC I think that Vito will find a way around buying the second class,he'll likely get one of his boyz or a "second cousin" to but it.He'll probably pay off teh judge in the mountain village at any rate so I don't think he's to worried about his persona non grata status.Pete-Yup I'll join you in the patoot room,I think we are sadly mistaken in our move to the cheaper,once all the heavy industry is gone I think we will be over a barrel I liked the pictures,nice add on decorations onn that loco,was it common for them to change those smokebox decorations or was that just a speacial made piece for that particular trip Jan-Wow visual overload I don't think I can answer all your queries but I'll give a couple of them a go.yes VIA had at least two other paint schemes beyond teh old Clasic yellow and blue which was the first paint scheme. A grey with yellow nnose and blue yellow stripes in severl configurations has been teh norm the last almost twenty years. the first P42's brought in the new scheme with the teal green/blue and yellow body matching the renasance cars. The F40's are now being painted in a similar paint scheme as they go in for rebuilds.If the pictures you are refering to are the soldiers that was a war of 1812 re-enactment at Fort George in Niagara on The Lake.The red cross pictures are the old railimages photo's I had looks like they've folded their tents so I'll have to rescan those one's onto my photobucket accountCM3-I'm guessing that yes the NHL will likely mess up the outdoor tradition somehow,done properly it should be a boon for them but I guess time will tell.Eric-Nice Amtrak shot, a real locomotive was leading that train Nick-I'm glad that you survived the shindig at the Second Class,it was touch and go there for a while.Rob EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:55 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Hello Leon, an early Saturday morning breakfast, please. French toast with all that extra stuff including powder sugar and a large, spiked, OJ! Friday came and went and now it's Saturday! Fergie – Congratulations for finsihing the 2 week Rescue Specialist course! And good luck with the Super MESS!Tom – I am not snorting any stuff! I am enjoying my retirement! Too bad I promised to work part time this year. Sent the mail again. Something went wrong last night. Mike – I agree with what you wrote about Manager Lars reading this. Thank you for the links! Interesting dome car video!Best luck and thank you to your nephew-in-law!JanOlov – Long time, no see! Welcome back! No, it is Tom’s layout and trains! The Greatest Show on Earth? It must have been Ringling Brothers Circus. The largets rail shop complex in the world was PRR’s Altoona Railroad Works!Shown with permission from Wikipedia. The photo of those DMUs was taken in Lidköping.DL – You have a nice weekend too!!CM3 – The shot of the FL9 was taken along the line between New York and Albany. Pete – So you had the dome cars in Jefferson City?! Just for a day, or what? IRM has a lot of interesting stuff. You are correct about older electrics. Not that much was automated or limited/controlled by computers. Nice photos! I like the paint scheme on #6201! What year was that special? Nick – Hope you got rid of the cold before it really started! Have another glass of the special rum, it’s on me!Rob – I am sure you are right about Vito buying the Second Class Saloon! He’ll find a way to do it. Eric siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:51 AM <personal foto>This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!The weekend has arrived ‘n with it a chance to kick back with us. Order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - select a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n fill up that coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comments from the Proprietor:The Larsman: Our SENIOR MANAGER <emeritus> said he'd give me a call once back home in NY. So, in response to those who have asked - go ahead and send him your Emails - I'll make sure he knows to check his "in box" once things get settled. As many of you already know, he indicated that he won't be on-line anytime soon. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *CONTEST - CONTEST - CONTESTWhen will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Participants thus far:(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)Contest CLOSES Monday, Feb 18th * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *G'day Gents!Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 7:58 PM: Admirable of the man in Wales to actually "do" the catch-up! Some pretend, others skim - but Nick's in the group of Rat's Patoot-ers who really mean it! Of course being "behind" a week puts you into the category of living one of those ‘delays' in transmission - so, what I'm saying now is sorta like trying to communicate with someone on the dark side of La Luna. <grin>Looking forward to your "report" of the Valentine's Nite Massacre at the Second Class Saloon! <grin>Many thanx for the libations - chat ‘n good CHEER! Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:55 PM: Regarding the NHL outdoor games - it would be a travesty to NOT have a Canadiens-Maple Leafs game. That above all others would surely pack the venue. Now I can "see" the Senators-Maple Leafs ‘n Senators-Canadiens face-offs in an outdoor environment, but when it comes to the history ‘n lore of the NHL - bring on Montréal-Toronto! Yes, we had quite a Friday at the Saloon by the Siding. Amazing how just the return of ONE guy can make such a difference <Jan> - then when the crew shows up, well it makes for a good day! I should WARN you, now that you're the Manager - there are two guys who are ALWAYS lurking in the shadows, waiting to pull a stunt on ya. So just watch your back, Mate. These two delight in making trouble - spelled with a capital "T," right here in Mentor City! You may be "on" to something with your supposition regarding Vito 'n the Second Class Saloon - BUT, he&# Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:21 PM Hi Tom and all.A cup of your ‘famous' coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.TOM Thanks for the kind words on my post and photos, yes very pleased with the scanner it must be hardy as it as lasted so far (touch wood) with my tender touch.I don't think the warrant in Mountain Village will mean much to VITO as the chief of police there is bound to be a relation of his.I did not realize about the dome of the Capitol was on top of the dome car until I got it back from developing.It is funny, it is Fish & Chips but it becomes a Fish & Chip dinner or just a Fish supper in Scotland.HELGA thought it was a contest between Nick and you to see who would take her out on Valentine's Day.I wonder who are the two who could cause problems to our new manager. Great idea of Eric to have Lars as permanent Senior ManagerNICK I hope they continue brewing at Felinfoel if it has been bought, there has been too many good breweries closed in the UK lately.Thanks for the info on the Irish Hudswell Clark locos. The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland are running a steam special through Wexford as part of their International Railtour this year. On Friday May 9th No 186 is hauling the heritage set from Dublin to Waterford via Rosslare and on Sunday May 11th No 4 is returning on the same route with the Mk 2 set. I remember seeing the ex Metro-Vickers GM re-engined diesel 001 in the sidings at Waterford on one railtour of Ireland I will have to sort out some more photos from Ireland.Thanks for the offer of Tommy.ROB I'll have a pint later with you if I may.Glad you enjoyed the photos. The headboard on 6201 is carried by most of the steam specials running today carrying the name of the special, on some steam tours the first prize of the on board raffle is the headboard the locomotive carried. The headboards are in the style carried by named trains in the BR era, which I believe is the style of the LNER named trains pre war; perhaps Allan could help with that.There was a different style of headboard with the ex LMS lines Royal Scot and Caledonian name trains having a larger longer and thinner shape. The Southern Region had a more oblong shape that was worn lower down on the locomotives front.Headboards were carried for a short while when the diesels first started taking over the main line services but I believe they disappeared in the mid 1960s.This Headboard was used for a while on diesels on the Flying Scotsman train from London King's Cross to Edinburgh.ERIC Many thanks for the Altoona Railroad works, it must have been a task to walk from one end to the other. I noticed the rather unusual circular building of the Locomotive Finishing Shop.Yes the cars were not there when I passed the next day, although I guess they would have to be moved if the local freight wanted to use the leg of the wye the cars were on.I recall traveling up one of the grades in Northern England behind an electric locomotive on a very damp day and the driver was using all his skill to control the electric from slipping at speed, you could hear the different sound from the motors as they lost traction on the greasy rails.The date of the Royal British Legion tour was on Monday July 10th 1989. I must have taken a day's holiday from work to go on the special. For this weeks Shildon photos.LNER 4-4-0 class D49 built1927, BR No 62712 'Morayshire' a Scottish Railway Preservation Society engine. LMS Stanier Pacific 46201' Princess Elizabeth built 1933 currently running main line specials today.Southern Railway 4-6-0 class S15 Maunsell design built 1936 No 30841 currently on the North York Moors Railway.LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 44767, out of the 842 class 5s built this was the only example with Stephenson link valve gear Built 1947. 44767 is on the NYMR. LNER Class V2 2-6-2 No 60800 'Green Arrow built 1936 she is the first loco of the class and the only survivor of an original class of 184 locos.A National Railway Museum engine.LMS class 8F 2-8-0 built 1935,some of these frieght locos saw service overseas in World War II. This loco saw sevice in Persia it is now on the Severn Valley Railway. GWR Modified Hall 4-6-0 class 6960 'Raveningham Hall' built 1944 a Hawksworth developement of the 1924 Collett Hall class. Not sure which railway she is on a the present, was on the SVR at the time of the photo. siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:26 PM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!Wasn't going to Post today UNLESS someone came "in" - 'n there was Pete! With our numbers dwindling along with Saturday unreliability it makes no sense to Post into the oblivion. I mean what's the point of providing <freebies> for those who never speak <geesh> Anyway - a moot point, as we've been "saved" for this day . . . I surely "transgressed" 'n apologies offered to Wolfman Pete! <mea culpa> Those fotos of the Royal British Legion <Friday's Pix> are MOST special treasures! Many thanx for sharing 'em with us. Strong sentiments for your heritage - both rail 'n men in uniform. Five to you, Sir Pete! Noted this day's offering as well - just hope it doesn't get "lost" in the Ether as Saturday's are just not "interaction days" anymore. But, many thanx for stopping by . . . will get to specifics in my next round of ACKNOWLEDGMENTS! Did notice your "old MacDonald's" loco - E-I-E-I-O! Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O And on that farm he had a (animal), E-I-E-I-O With a (animal noise twice) here and a (animal noise twice) there Here a (animal noise), there a (animal noise), everywhere a (animal noise twice) Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Found a couple of back-to-back Posts from our former "bookends" here at the bar 'n thought them very approrpiate for this ENCORE! Saturday . . . Both from the Original Thread, Page 400 - Posted on 25 Sep 2006 . . . G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past! Overland FlyerFrom Wikipedia, the free encylopedia "Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.Until the next time! Lars - and - Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!Hope all enjoyed a restful weekend! All is well here in the mountain retreat as we begin preparations for another getaway. Canadian Thanksgiving is not that far off and we will be heading off to Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:29 PM Hi Tom and all,The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!Nick. Nice to see you survived the Irish rugger supporters invasion, enjoyed your Guildford station write up, sound a weird lot there but at least you met a friendly driver who let you at the controls.Mike. Was in with a great mass of interesting URL`s on Oregon Electric, restuarants and a nice selection of North Eastern RR pics and a vid of Lars`s favourite subject "Domes".Lars. Thanks for your kind words, it was a very sad occasion to have to read your final post and farewell, it`s been a real pleasure to have met you and to be associated with you here at "Our" place, your very interesting covAHS from the Larsman Mobile and all your repartee that you`ve shared so freely has made this place such a great delight to be a part of in this old world of ours`, I salute you and thank you for all the enjoyment you have given me over the time that i`ve known you. You will be greatly missed and that`s a FACT!CM3. Was in with his usual interesting info.Pete. Many thanks for your latest set of Shildon parade pics, a great lot of classic steam locos` indeed, and nice pics of that Royal British Legion trip behind Princess Elizabeth, and the nice Deltic pic, all "keepers"! Was a member of the Legion until migrating in 1969. Parsons are still operating as C A Parsons & Co at Heaton, Newcastle, they are now part of a Siemens group of companies, how things change over the years. See their is a link to the "Locomotion" museum at Shildon via the NRM site. Forgot to mention that I did watch the San Diego 7`s final, it`s nice to see ANY team put one over the SA rugby team anytime! The "Toon" are running out of time to WIN any games by the look of it!Eric. Enjoyed the nice pics and info you posted, have you been down to the Cracker Barrel yet? A neighbour of ours, who originates from Queens, NY, has family who have a winter home in Scotsdale near you, and she has seen your favourite restuarant several times when visiting there.Fergie. Nice to see you aboard again, nice Amtrak pic, go easy on that home decoration it can kind of snowball!Jan. Nice to see you again mate, that was a nice set of pics from you, back to your usual self I can see.Dan. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.Rob. Here in NZ you can`t get much further away from civilisation as you can down here, but it does have it`s compensations most of the time. Nice to see that you are taking over the Bar managers stint from Lars, hope you will have a smooth transition, enjoyed all your info and pics and chats.Tom. Totally agree with you that 15 is far too young to hold a drivers licence, but it`s been on the statute books here since licences were first issued, at the moment their is a campaign to raise it to 17 because of a "boy racer" problem here, but the very vocal farming lobby is against it! I totally support all of your comments about Lars`s place here, he will be greatly missed for sure. It is very fitting « First«120121122123124125126»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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Dome car
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Former California Zephyr dome car in excursion train service with the Inland Lakes Railway -- Plymouth, Florida.
A dome car is a type of railway passenger car that can include features of a lounge car, dining car and an observation. Its primary feature is a glass dome on the top of the car where passengers can ride and see in all directions around the train. Seats in the dome were considered "non-revenue" like lounge car seats. When dome cars operate today in excursion trains, the dome seats often command a premium fare.
Configuration
A plan view diagram of the Challenger dome car, built in 1958 by Pullman-Standard as Union Pacific Dome Coach #7015, the last such car built.
A portion of the car, usually in the center of the car, is split between two levels, with stairs leading both up and down from the train's regular passenger car floor level. The lower level of the dome usually contained the car's restrooms or a small lounge area, while the upper portion was usually coach or lounge seating within a "bubble" of glass on the car's roof. Passengers in the upper portion of the dome were able to see in all directions from a vantage point above the train's roofline.
On some dome cars, the lower portion was outfitted with a galley, where car attendants used dumbwaiters to transfer items between the galley and a dining area in the dome portion of the car.
History
The upper level interior of a dome car that has been configured as a dining area, on display at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Although the design of a dome car can be likened to a cupola caboose, the dome car's development is not directly related. The earliest documented predecessor of the dome car was first developed in the 1880s; known at the time as the "birdcage car", it was used on an 1882 sightseeing tour on the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad. In 1891, T. J. McBride received a patent for a car design called an "observation-sleeper"; illustrations of the design in Scientific American at the time showed a car with three observation domes. Canadian Pacific Railway used "tourist cars" with raised, glass-sided viewing cupolas on their trains through the Canadian Rocky Mountains in the 1920s.
These dome car designs did not prove successful, and further refinements to the idea didn't come for a few decades. The first successful dome cars were conceived by Cyrus Osborn of General Motors Electro-Motive Division (EMD). In 1944, while traveling in an EMD-built Rio Grande locomotive through Glenwood Canyon in Colorado, Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
Hi Tom and all
ALLAN It really is sad to think of those once great shipyards especially those on the Clyde and the Tyne that are no more.
I wonder if the Parson's turbine manufacturers are still in business I bet at one time there was a Parson's Turbine in Power Stations all over the world.
Glad you are enjoying the photos. On that day with Taw Valley we were starting to worry a bit if we would be able to get home, I think if we had gone much father north we would have been in trouble.
NICK Helga is over the moon with her new date I think Tom owes you big.
Enjoyed reading about your time at Guildford station, one that seemed to have a ‘funny' atmosphere the very few times I have been there, no idea why though. Glad you met a friendly train driver it is good to know they are still about.
Looking through my photo album I never once had anyone say anything about taking photos from the stations, it seems all that as changed nowadays sadly. I will look forward to your photos..
I have not found the photo of 53809the 2-8-0 Midland railway design for the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway on the main line, but some on the Midland Railway Centre. The loco is wearing its LMS number of 13809
The first two photos are a Hammersmith at the west end of the preserved line.
This next photo is at Swanwick Junction the site of the museum and engine sheds on the MRC.
They should enlarge
ROB Many thanks for the info on 8786 owned by Larry's. So the loco is 50 years old now it looked like it I really liked the head light with the locos number on it.
Glad you enjoyed the photo of 34027 in the snow. Yes the Brunswick Arms in Derby is a great real ale pub in an old railway institute building with small rooms. A short walk from Derby station. It was great watching steam drifting from the engine while enjoying good ale.
Good luck with HILDA tonight
ERIC Thanks for the link to the Jubilee line, I see the cars were built at the same factory as the 156 units in my recent photo, the ex Metro-Cammell factory in Birmingham now sadly closed. I will have to travel on the line when I am over there if I can, as the overground part of the line sounds interesting.
I am finding it fascinating about these interurban sleeping cars many thanks for finding out the info on them, I wonder if any got preserved.
I bet it was a good experience during the trials with the Rc1 and the rapid acceleration. Thanks for the photo.
MIKE Many thanks for that great link to the Oregon Electric with a photo of their sleeping car #1010 and the Champoeg car is very elegant.
I wonder what that machine is in the first link showing Amtrak #4.Great ‘heart' railway ads for today.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos.
Many thanks for the info on Mikes links, did you notice what looks like a portable steam engine in the link with Amtrak #4.
LARS You will be very much missed at the bar, I know I shall miss the posts, with the comments always worth reading and the great ideas like the Larsman Mobile and the wonderful kn
Good evening Leon my good man.Nice heart shaped bowtie and matching cumberbun a gift from Hilda you say,your a luckey man she isn't always that giving. I think I'll sample some of Copperkettles fish n chips what the heck some mushy peas as well Boris likes it when I give mine to him,I think a nice Keith's to wash it down with. Here's some extra for a round for the rest of Daboyz as well
First off a hearty good bye and god speed for the Larsman and his family. I can only barely fill his slippers, never his shoes. It's been an honour to interact with you,I wish we coulda met,might still Anytime that you have for us will be well welcomed and anticipated when you can. A five salute for you da bars greatest customer.
Tom-What can I say you were able to manouver outta the date,howeevr as Pete has noticed the girls think they are more sought after now than ever. I just have to say that the second calss will no longer be the same,not a dry eye left in that house ( Helga's new perfume O'de pepper spray )Not many left standing a swell. typical for the girls they satyrted and finished a brawl,even Mountain man Mike was in tears. I had lost sight of Nick in the melee last I saw him he was flying towards the fire exit amidst the debris and tangled limbs,still clutching his pint which was amazingly unspilled Looks as though Vito and his Boyz may be buying and renovating the second class,that's the word in the alley anyway.
I'm glad to see Lar's dome post again today a fitting tribute to he who loves the domes the most
In an completely unrealated note,I heard today that teh NHL is contemplating another big outdoor game next year. The odd's on favourite is to put ice into Soldier field in Chicago and teh game wll be the Blackhawks and the Redwings , won't that be a sight if it happens.
Pete-I think you will find alot of those old SW's had those leftover from steam days style headlights with the loco number on them. theer was that timeframe when the railroad pundits deemed that switchers were the only viable use for diesel engines ,times do change.As rough as that unit looks those old 567 series diesels were tough nuts to crack,properly maintained they will out last the locomotive.
I can't imagine what Liverpool and the other big shipbuilding centre in the UK must be like now.Amazing as to how many of those old firms are gone or drastically smaller scale than they were not sixty years ago. When you think that in the earlier part of the century those slipways were turning out Battleships and ocean liners faster than they could be crewed. I suppose alot like parts of Pennsylvania where the steel mills have come and gone,at one point with those industries it ws unthinkable that they could fail and fade away.
great dome shot BTW
Eric-Thanks for the info on those Swedish state railway electrics,not at all supprising the speed at which they do pick up speed. Even operating our cars at the museum it's amazing as to how fast they get up and go.
Mike-Some good and on side urls as always
Cm3-What ho, isn't just neat how Mike was able to pull those old baseball urls out of his magic bag of urls.
Leon, a number 5 Special Dual Double Combo and a cold Keith's, please! Round for the house!
Some things to study and discuss here tonight.
Tom – I’ve had about 30 different cars in my life and my very favorite was my Pontiac Grand Prix SE, 1989. It had everything!!! I had it for two years, but sold it when I moved here. Hope you had a wonderful date with Helga!!! Did she come along to Oslo? Did you tell Manager Lars? This is getting more and more interesting!Thanks for re-posting Lars’ old post with the article on Dome cars and their history! I can understand that the dome area was regarded a non-revenue area. Interesting!Email received and responded to.Mike – ‘56 Dodge hardtop were very good looking cars! My very favorite when it comes to good looking cars is De Soto hardtop 1958!!! Thanks for all links! Older photos of regular trains and Valentine railroad ads! Lars – It is a sad day here at the bar today! No matter what, you will always be the Manager! And I hope we will see you every now and then even in the future!A bunch of interesting books, as usual! I’ll pick Southern Pacific Historic Diesels. I think it says volume 6. It is sad to read the second part of your post but I understand that you have to do what you have to do. Thanks for the nice words! We will do our best to train the new Manager, but you will always be the Senior Manager of this place! I am sure Rob will do a great job though. Looking forward to see you as often as possible in the future! My best to you and the Mrs! Ruth just told me that she has asked for a raise so she can fly out to the east coast more often! I wonder why? Hmmm. By the way, you have to keep an eye on the number of pages and post when page #200 is due, so I’ll win the contest. CM3 – Interesting driving? I guess that is one way to say it. One inch of snow is not bad though. Detcord? I’ll remember to ask about it in May. Pete – As I mentioned yesterday, IRM has one interurban sleeping car. I think that is the only one left. The acceleration demonstrations with the Rc1 was fun. It is amazing how fast those locomotives can accelerate! Nice photos! Where did you take the picture of the UP Dome car?Rob – Seems like you had a good time at the Second Class Saloon! I heard that Vito would like to hire Manager Lars as the new Second Class Saloon manager!
Heading for Albany, NY.Eric
Good Morning Captain Tom and Sundry!
I'll have a Western to go please and thanks
Larsman... What can I say... Though short our relationship I have noticed you have been a major contributor in this here fine establishment and I know your absence will have a major impact. So sir my hat is off to you! And a hefty round of Kieth's to all so we may raise a toast in your honour.
Well this is exam day for me as I finish up my 2 week Rescue Specialist course which will free up a whole lotta time for ... dare I say it... house painting #%$&^ I hate to paint!!!
Anyway after studying the body's circulatory system yet again I am now wondering (once again) on how I can re-arrange the the MESS. If I do so it will no longer be the MESS it will be the Super MESS!
And Finally put me down for March 21st and I believe it to be our beloved Capt'n Tom who will hit our Milestone.
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Friday's Grin
Reason "things" happen!
Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are.
Not much to say - you know the "drill" . . . .
(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)
(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)
CONTEST closes on Monday . . .
Thursday - Feb 14th: <all times Central standard>
Page 184 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:46 AM: Adieu, mon ami!
Page 184 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:58 PM.
Page 184 - Pete (pwolfe) at 4:46 PM.
Page 184 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:58 PM.
Friday - Feb 15th:
Page 184 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:43 A.M.
Page 184 - Fergie (Fergmiester) at 5:13 AM.
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good old Lars. He puts so much energy into everything he does. Came in loaded for bear and true to character went out with a bang. One thing for certain though, he's going to continue to monitor the thread. Betcha a million bucks he's reading this right now. Hi Lars. You haven't been gone long enough for me to miss you yet but Tom seems to kind of got the blues already. Take your time, but hurry back. By the way, thank you for supporting the troops with the ribbon in your signature line. One of them is my nephew-in-law, married to my niece, serving in Iraq with the Maryland National Guard. They got little kids who can't quite figure out where Daddy disappeared to.
Here's a video clip about Domes
http://www.chinaconcepts.net/video/domecarmagic01op.jpg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2baVBWMJ0Os
Salutations Tom and fellow Bar enthusiasts.... I hope that all with all and everybody here....
May I have an extra cold Guinness please and a Laphroaig...? Work has been unussually busy this time of year so I DO apologise for my AWOL...I'll take it that it's just for me to grab the cleaning materiel and start on the brass, spitoons, light fixtures and everything else...
$$$$, $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad train No. 4, the Pioneer Limited, passes near Deerfield, Illinois on June 22, 1946.
siberianmo 01-29-2008, 8:29 PM: 3,500th reply...!? Woohooo! I totally missed that..! Sorry about that....
THAT is some beautiful SP heralds...! Classy....!
MopacBarrettTunnel 01-29-2008, 9:38 PM: Tell me about it....Been travelling so much on the "Beer Line", that they decided to give me a special ticket....
Great pics...!
pwolfe 01-29-2008, 10:00: BR diesleshave their unique looks, that's for sure, but WHAT is that thing on the nose??
Another great set of pics..!
EricX2000 01-30-2008, 1:20 AM: True indeed mate, cars and trains and what not that was designed back then, some of them still look modern today....
Not to mention this lovely lassie, great pics!
siberianmo 01-30-2008, 12:30 PM: What is that CN machine...a diesel?
siberianmo 01-30-2008, 3:32 PM: GREAT post...!
Da Larsman 01-30-2008, 5:20 PM: Never get tired of your covers....WP=tasty..!
wanswheel 01-30-2008, 9:46 PM: Great post and links..!
A Northern Pacific train travels over Bozeman Pass, June 1939.
pwolfe 01-31-2008, 3:43 AM: Imformative post indeed...I've always wondered about the signals etc put up at the front of the locomotives here on the islands...
EricX2000 01-31-2008, 5:50 AM: Is that your machines and layout Eric?
trolleyboy 01-31-2008, 2:37 PM: Is there any of those great old RS diesles still in use in Canada, museums or shortlines etc.??
siberianmo 01-31-2008, 4:28 PM: Now we're talking real trolleys here....great pics!
Map of Northern Pacific's route circa 1900.
pwolfe 01-31-2008, 8:51 PM: So the locomotives in these fine pics are American built then?
EricX2000 02-01-2008, 1:11 AM: Who was that had that train The Greatest Show On Earth??
trolleyboy 02-01-2008, 3:15 AM: NICE pics of those locos TB...DL&W and Erie-Lackawanna, eh?
coalminer3 02-01-2008, 3:58 PM: Great post mate!
<<<<<<------ Having a short break here------>>>>>>
The Southern Pacific Company's Bay City ferry plies the waters of San Francisco Bay in the late 19th century.
DL - UK 02-01-2008, 6:27 PM: Trying my very best, even though when I write this one, I'm totally knackered...people off sick and on holiday's and short staffed that still nothing has been done about..... Tom and you guys deserve that much when I'm gone for a week or two, to know that I'm still thinking about you all....but 24 hours isn't enough hours for a day...
siberianmo 02-01-2008, 8:50 PM: Timeless and classic railroad ads.....YUMMY!!
More please!
pwolfe 02-02-2008, 5:00 PM: Great post with some niiiice pics...!
siberianmo 02-02-2008, 8:44 PM: Woow! Some really colorful passenger cars....
Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD F3 #881A hauling a 4-car passenger train. Photographed at Mitchell, Illinois, June 30, 1951. This is an early F3 with Type I side panels. It is fitted with a steam generator for passenger-car heating, a freight pilot, and only a single headlight.
trolleyboy 02-03-2008, 1:53 AM and 02-03-2008, 2:00 AM: Darn...! I missed the pics! Only wee red crosses now.
EricX2000 02-03-2008, 6:20 AM: Interesting pics indeed!
trolleyboy 02-04-2008, 3:54 AM: Interesting pics, what are they doing and where AND why?
DL - UK 02-04-2008, 6:17 PM: Excellent post!
1884 map of the Pennsylvania, Reading and Lehigh Valley Railroads
DD1 02-04-2008, 6:24 PM: Great post!
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Hello Tom and all
I'll have a beer and a round for the house, plus check the menu.
Been one heck of a week here busy wise - hence not been in so just catch up looking at the mo - just to call in to say hi to all and read through the pics etc - hopefully more time soon. Our place certainly not forgotten!
Have a good week end
DL
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Here's my thought for the day. "If you can keep your wits about you while everyone else panics, you obviously don't appreciate the gravity of the situation."
Just a short visit today as we started REAL early this a.m.
Pete was by with comments and pictures.
Rob - Another outdoor game? Too much, too soon, IMHO - NHL has never figured out this "marketing thing." Anyway, I'll take the Redwings by at least three goals.
Eric - Nice shot of a r/b FL9. My first thought was that it might be train 449, but it may be 49 instead, given the cars. FL9s did not appear in Boston too often in later years although they were a fixture there when I was a pup. What's throwing me a little in the picture is the terrain, although there is some that looks like it between New York and Albany.
DL and JanOlov were both in as well.
OSP - Tough slot to fill, for sure - You put together a thoughtful tribute to the Larsman; good work, sir!
Well. Better clean up (and put away) the equipment so we'll be ready for next time.
Have a good weekend.
ROB Good words for Lars.
It would have been good if that old SW had been running at the time, it really looked in great condition though.
It is a very sad and a sobering thought about all the heavy industry that as disappeared. I think the worst thing is that the amount of money it would cost to re build, say a large steelworks, shipyard or engineering factory, would be tremendous and where they would get the skilled men from God only knows. I think we will pay for this in the future. Off to the Rat's Patoot Room for me for a while.
So H&H had another great night out, what with their visit and the Darts Matches the poor old Second Class Saloon will never be the same, if Vito does buy it we will have to look out though.
ERIC The dome cars were on the Wye that connects the main line to a branch that runs alongside Industrial Drive to serve some factories and warehouses here in Jefferson City. The bride spotted the cars as she came home from work; so we went down to see them. I believe the train was here to promote rail safety on grade crossings but was not open to the public. Heritage units did not haul the train though.
I mis-read about the Interurban Sleeping Car at the IRM, they have got some really good exhibits there.
I guess with the older electric locomotives the driver had a good deal more control over the acceleration than with the newer locos with their traction control.
Great photo of the Amtrak GMD # 489.
FERGIE I'll join in the toast to Lars if I may, good luck with the house painting.
MIKE Many Thanks for the great video on U-Tube on the Dome Cars, really great photography with even some classic shots in color. Good piece on the Train of Tomorrow as well. I am sure Lars will enjoy it.
JAN Good to see you in, sorry to hear that things are still very busy at your work.
Glad you enjoyed my photos and posts. Really enjoyed the photos maps and posters, thanks for sharing
DL I will look forward to your post, hopefully the work will ease a bit for you soon.
CM3 Thanks for the info on the FP9 in Erics photo. Hope you enjoy the photos of one of the LMS's finest later in the post.
TOM A while back we were talking about a steam hauled special train that was run to help raise funds for the Royal British Legion. I was lucky enough to be able to travel on the train. The steam locomotive was Sir William A. Stanier's Princess Royal class Pacific No 6201 Princess Elizabeth. The train ran along the North Wales coast with the steam locomotive running from Crewe to Holyhead and back.
A photo of 6201 carrying the special headboard.
These two photos were taken at Llandudno Junction, about half way along the coast line where 6201 took water. The first was on the outward run and this next one on the return.
Before the special left Crewe the original destinctive nameplate 'British Legion' was on display the other nameplate s at the National Railway Museum at York. The locomotive that carried the name was Stanier's re-build of the high pressure compound locomotive Fury.It was placed in the Royal Scot class and numbered 46170 The rest of the Royal Scots were rebuilt the same as 46170.
Well Ruth a round please and the Steak and Fries if H&H are fit enough to make it
A far busier Friday than I would've imagined - has kept Ruth ‘n Boris busy, which all means <KaChing> <KaChing> for Tilla ‘n Cashinator! <grin>
Some catch-ups in the Acknowledgment Department . . .
Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>
Page 184 - Mike (wanswheel) at 10:29 AM: Never knew of a guy who lost a million - but now I do! I KNOW what Lars is doing ‘n where's he's doing it at . . . the absolute last thing on his mind or within his ability to handle is the internet. Suggest you apply for a loan from the Mentor Village Second National Bank ‘n Not-so-Trust <Vito the Hit, President>. <uh oh>
Enjoyed the dome link - very much! 4.0 "find" ‘n a <keeper> for "Our" Place! [tup ]
Round appreciated!
Page 184 - Jan (JanOlov) at 11:49 AM: A "voice" from the past <well not that far back . . .> as our Resident Swede in Scotland has returned with a Herculian effort of a catch-up acknowledgment. <triple wow> Takes quite a bit of time to go thru ‘em all . . .
Answers: Yes - no - maybe - uhhhhhhh - don't know ‘n <geesh>
Entry for the Contest noted - and I'm assuming you selected me as the person to get to Page 200. So you're "in" . . . .
No <tweetable> OH-FEN-SEZ, however <tweekable> applies to the inflatables in Boris' Shed. <uh oh> <grin>
Thoroughly AMAZED that you missed the most notable of news . . . <quadruple geesh>
Thanx for Post, chock full ‘o fotos - generosities too!
Page 184 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:29 PM: In for a penny . . . what's the diff It's the thought that counts! Great knowing you're still with us . . . bon weekend, Mate! [tup ]tup]
Page 185 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:11 PM: A most profound "Thought for the day," wish I had said something like that "back in the day." <grin> There were so many opportunities . . .
Many thanx for thinking ‘bout the bar in spite of the heavy work load . . . means a lot - as do the quarters ‘n ROUND! Relaxing weekend to ya, Mate!
Page 185 - Pete (pwolfe) at 2:56 PM: An excellent <I3 > Post from the guy who knows HOW!
Splendid fotos with descriptions - getting even better since your new scanner arrived! No stopping you now, eh
Vito CAN'T buy the Second Class Saloon. There's a warrant out for him in that township - which isn't Mentor Village - it's Mountain Village ‘n he's persona non grata there. Translation: they don't like him. <uh oh>
Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Have a great weekend . . .
Some one-liners:
Pete: Love that "dome on dome" shot!
Why is it "Fish & Chip" as opposed to chipS Don't get it . . . but at least you DO! <grin>
Email received ‘n responded to . . . Thanx!
Still baffled about your so-called "Contest" that you now say Nick has won. What in the world are you SMOKING <geesh>
Rob:
Well gentlemen all-how are we this fine crisp day ?-Leon,it`s friday night and I am most definately in the chair-a close relative has been waiting on some test results which came back clear today so a little quiet satisfaction is in order I feel-Therefore I will have a large glass of the special rum-as I also have a stinker of a cold perhaps another large rum might help .??-and better have a bottle of Starop as well please old thing,just to wash it down with........
Right then chaps-just been backtracking and worked out I havn`t interacted since last sat.,so will attempt a bullet-point type catch up:-
SAT:-
TOM-Yes indeed mate,the BNSF surely echoes the G.N livery-although for my money the BNSF always looks a touch `brash`-possibly the greater amount of orange-my Brit sensbilities are attuned to more muted combinations.....BTW-you do me too much credit R.E-FP40/59-I didn`t spot the difference-merely suggested the possibility,based on something I`d read--Oh Mr Porter:-I do indeed recall this gem at the Emporium but I`ve always felt that this film,with it`s many small sets,close camera work and the whole atmosphere that B&W film creates works best on a small screen for a select audience...
ROB-Nice pix of work vehicles & #8-that first one -I`m sure The Manx Electric Rly on the Isle of Man have a very similar unit -will have a look about...
LARS-Not sure if you will read this or not mate-Glad I made it back to shake hands and raise a glass before you hit the road ........touched by your words-my door is always open to friends,would be delighted to take you to some gigs,ride the few local trains and turn you onto the local scenery-along with the rest of the crew....Drop us all a line as soon as you are settled and we can have a housewarming party for you..
PETE-Yes indeed -the Double Dragon is the flagship brew of the Felinfoel brewery located in the eponymous village just outside Llanelli-although that said,it`s entirely possible that the place has been bought out-I have a ghost of a memory here..........................hmmmmm-nice work with the heads up & pix of the S&D 7f`s-looked really well with those coaches ...Irish matters:-I finally hd to give up and check the inter-web thingy for those Swilly engines -they were from Hudswell-Clarke and were (I think) poss. the only narrow gauge tender locos to run in Ireland--Rosslare services-Last time I was there,the only `spot` I had on that section was the evening Rosslare-Waterford service which was a 4 car DMU,identical to the units I had seen over in Co. Kerry earlier that week,arriving at Waterford-there were also a pair of very scruffy G.M units in black/orange down on the quay tracks......U-Tube-don`t be deceived dear boy-what you hear isn`t always what happened-in this instance it was,although not the `Blair witch` hand held camera thing that appears-the music was all being recorded onto a hard drive via a 16 track desk (you can see some of the mics in the video) and was synched in to the film afterwards (and is still about 1/64th of a beat out-irritates me every time I see itLive at Leeds-now theres an album-how could they go from a standing start straight into "Heaven & Hell" like that ??-will check with the boys -I`m sure there must be some way I can send you the `Tommy` show-might have to do it in bits.....
Right -thats last sat.-bear with me here-it might take a while....................
Good evening Leon I see that you've had the less busy shift for the day but that's okay between you and Boris the bar room looks wells wept and Boris and the umm Girls have got the pans and the kitchen sparkling.Nice to see all the critters are tucked in for the night all in all a good day yes Boris you can have a small PPF.
So since all is happy i think I'll have a nice Guiness and here's some for a round for the morning partakers
Tom-G'day sir looks like a nice busy day not so much tonight but hey most of the cast 'o' characters 'n' customers were in today so alls good
Looks like the NHL is going to make the outside games a yearly tradition on New years day,going to have to stay to the colder cities.Chicago should be a good choice , I'd still like to see an outdoor one in Montreal with Toronto and Montreal but that wouldn't sell well SOTB so likely won't happen at least not as long as the league is rulled by the suits in NYC
I think that Vito will find a way around buying the second class,he'll likely get one of his boyz or a "second cousin" to but it.He'll probably pay off teh judge in the mountain village at any rate so I don't think he's to worried about his persona non grata status.
Pete-Yup I'll join you in the patoot room,I think we are sadly mistaken in our move to the cheaper,once all the heavy industry is gone I think we will be over a barrel
I liked the pictures,nice add on decorations onn that loco,was it common for them to change those smokebox decorations or was that just a speacial made piece for that particular trip
Jan-Wow visual overload I don't think I can answer all your queries but I'll give a couple of them a go.yes VIA had at least two other paint schemes beyond teh old Clasic yellow and blue which was the first paint scheme. A grey with yellow nnose and blue yellow stripes in severl configurations has been teh norm the last almost twenty years. the first P42's brought in the new scheme with the teal green/blue and yellow body matching the renasance cars. The F40's are now being painted in a similar paint scheme as they go in for rebuilds.If the pictures you are refering to are the soldiers that was a war of 1812 re-enactment at Fort George in Niagara on The Lake.The red cross pictures are the old railimages photo's I had looks like they've folded their tents so I'll have to rescan those one's onto my photobucket account
CM3-I'm guessing that yes the NHL will likely mess up the outdoor tradition somehow,done properly it should be a boon for them but I guess time will tell.
Eric-Nice Amtrak shot, a real locomotive was leading that train
Nick-I'm glad that you survived the shindig at the Second Class,it was touch and go there for a while.
Hello Leon, an early Saturday morning breakfast, please. French toast with all that extra stuff including powder sugar and a large, spiked, OJ!
Friday came and went and now it's Saturday!
Fergie – Congratulations for finsihing the 2 week Rescue Specialist course! And good luck with the Super MESS!Tom – I am not snorting any stuff! I am enjoying my retirement! Too bad I promised to work part time this year. Sent the mail again. Something went wrong last night. Mike – I agree with what you wrote about Manager Lars reading this. Thank you for the links! Interesting dome car video!Best luck and thank you to your nephew-in-law!JanOlov – Long time, no see! Welcome back! No, it is Tom’s layout and trains! The Greatest Show on Earth? It must have been Ringling Brothers Circus. The largets rail shop complex in the world was PRR’s Altoona Railroad Works!
Shown with permission from Wikipedia.
The photo of those DMUs was taken in Lidköping.DL – You have a nice weekend too!!CM3 – The shot of the FL9 was taken along the line between New York and Albany. Pete – So you had the dome cars in Jefferson City?! Just for a day, or what? IRM has a lot of interesting stuff. You are correct about older electrics. Not that much was automated or limited/controlled by computers. Nice photos! I like the paint scheme on #6201! What year was that special? Nick – Hope you got rid of the cold before it really started! Have another glass of the special rum, it’s on me!Rob – I am sure you are right about Vito buying the Second Class Saloon! He’ll find a way to do it. Eric
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
The weekend has arrived ‘n with it a chance to kick back with us. Order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - select a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n fill up that coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend!
The Larsman: Our SENIOR MANAGER <emeritus> said he'd give me a call once back home in NY. So, in response to those who have asked - go ahead and send him your Emails - I'll make sure he knows to check his "in box" once things get settled. As many of you already know, he indicated that he won't be on-line anytime soon.
(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)
Contest CLOSES Monday, Feb 18th
Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 7:58 PM: Admirable of the man in Wales to actually "do" the catch-up! Some pretend, others skim - but Nick's in the group of Rat's Patoot-ers who really mean it!
Of course being "behind" a week puts you into the category of living one of those ‘delays' in transmission - so, what I'm saying now is sorta like trying to communicate with someone on the dark side of La Luna. <grin>
Looking forward to your "report" of the Valentine's Nite Massacre at the Second Class Saloon! <grin>
Many thanx for the libations - chat ‘n good CHEER!
Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:55 PM: Regarding the NHL outdoor games - it would be a travesty to NOT have a Canadiens-Maple Leafs game. That above all others would surely pack the venue. Now I can "see" the Senators-Maple Leafs ‘n Senators-Canadiens face-offs in an outdoor environment, but when it comes to the history ‘n lore of the NHL - bring on Montréal-Toronto!
Yes, we had quite a Friday at the Saloon by the Siding. Amazing how just the return of ONE guy can make such a difference <Jan> - then when the crew shows up, well it makes for a good day!
I should WARN you, now that you're the Manager - there are two guys who are ALWAYS lurking in the shadows, waiting to pull a stunt on ya. So just watch your back, Mate. These two delight in making trouble - spelled with a capital "T," right here in Mentor City!
You may be "on" to something with your supposition regarding Vito 'n the Second Class Saloon - BUT, he&#
A cup of your ‘famous' coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.
TOM Thanks for the kind words on my post and photos, yes very pleased with the scanner it must be hardy as it as lasted so far (touch wood) with my tender touch.
I don't think the warrant in Mountain Village will mean much to VITO as the chief of police there is bound to be a relation of his.
I did not realize about the dome of the Capitol was on top of the dome car until I got it back from developing.
It is funny, it is Fish & Chips but it becomes a Fish & Chip dinner or just a Fish supper in Scotland.
HELGA thought it was a contest between Nick and you to see who would take her out on Valentine's Day.
I wonder who are the two who could cause problems to our new manager. Great idea of Eric to have Lars as permanent Senior Manager
NICK I hope they continue brewing at Felinfoel if it has been bought, there has been too many good breweries closed in the UK lately.
Thanks for the info on the Irish Hudswell Clark locos. The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland are running a steam special through Wexford as part of their International Railtour this year. On Friday May 9th No 186 is hauling the heritage set from Dublin to Waterford via Rosslare and on Sunday May 11th No 4 is returning on the same route with the Mk 2 set. I remember seeing the ex Metro-Vickers GM re-engined diesel 001 in the sidings at Waterford on one railtour of Ireland I will have to sort out some more photos from Ireland.
Thanks for the offer of Tommy.
ROB I'll have a pint later with you if I may.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. The headboard on 6201 is carried by most of the steam specials running today carrying the name of the special, on some steam tours the first prize of the on board raffle is the headboard the locomotive carried. The headboards are in the style carried by named trains in the BR era, which I believe is the style of the LNER named trains pre war; perhaps Allan could help with that.
There was a different style of headboard with the ex LMS lines Royal Scot and Caledonian name trains having a larger longer and thinner shape. The Southern Region had a more oblong shape that was worn lower down on the locomotives front.
Headboards were carried for a short while when the diesels first started taking over the main line services but I believe they disappeared in the mid 1960s.
This Headboard was used for a while on diesels on the Flying Scotsman train from London King's Cross to Edinburgh.
ERIC Many thanks for the Altoona Railroad works, it must have been a task to walk from one end to the other. I noticed the rather unusual circular building of the Locomotive Finishing Shop.
Yes the cars were not there when I passed the next day, although I guess they would have to be moved if the local freight wanted to use the leg of the wye the cars were on.
I recall traveling up one of the grades in Northern England behind an electric locomotive on a very damp day and the driver was using all his skill to control the electric from slipping at speed, you could hear the different sound from the motors as they lost traction on the greasy rails.
The date of the Royal British Legion tour was on Monday July 10th 1989. I must have taken a day's holiday from work to go on the special.
For this weeks Shildon photos.
LNER 4-4-0 class D49 built1927, BR No 62712 'Morayshire' a Scottish Railway Preservation Society engine.
LMS Stanier Pacific 46201' Princess Elizabeth built 1933 currently running main line specials today.
Southern Railway 4-6-0 class S15 Maunsell design built 1936 No 30841 currently on the North York Moors Railway.
LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 44767, out of the 842 class 5s built this was the only example with Stephenson link valve gear Built 1947. 44767 is on the NYMR.
LNER Class V2 2-6-2 No 60800 'Green Arrow built 1936 she is the first loco of the class and the only survivor of an original class of 184 locos.A National Railway Museum engine.
LMS class 8F 2-8-0 built 1935,some of these frieght locos saw service overseas in World War II. This loco saw sevice in Persia it is now on the Severn Valley Railway.
GWR Modified Hall 4-6-0 class 6960 'Raveningham Hall' built 1944 a Hawksworth developement of the 1924 Collett Hall class. Not sure which railway she is on a the present, was on the SVR at the time of the photo.
Wasn't going to Post today UNLESS someone came "in" - 'n there was Pete! With our numbers dwindling along with Saturday unreliability it makes no sense to Post into the oblivion. I mean what's the point of providing <freebies> for those who never speak <geesh> Anyway - a moot point, as we've been "saved" for this day . . .
I surely "transgressed" 'n apologies offered to Wolfman Pete! <mea culpa> Those fotos of the Royal British Legion <Friday's Pix> are MOST special treasures! Many thanx for sharing 'em with us. Strong sentiments for your heritage - both rail 'n men in uniform. Five to you, Sir Pete!
Noted this day's offering as well - just hope it doesn't get "lost" in the Ether as Saturday's are just not "interaction days" anymore. But, many thanx for stopping by . . . will get to specifics in my next round of ACKNOWLEDGMENTS!
Did notice your "old MacDonald's" loco - E-I-E-I-O!
Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O And on that farm he had a (animal), E-I-E-I-O With a (animal noise twice) here and a (animal noise twice) there Here a (animal noise), there a (animal noise), everywhere a (animal noise twice) Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O
Found a couple of back-to-back Posts from our former "bookends" here at the bar 'n thought them very approrpiate for this ENCORE! Saturday . . .
Both from the Original Thread, Page 400 - Posted on 25 Sep 2006 . . .
G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past! Overland FlyerFrom Wikipedia, the free encylopedia "Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.Until the next time! Lars
G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past!
Overland Flyer
From Wikipedia, the free encylopedia
"Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.
The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.
The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.
Until the next time!
Lars
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Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!Hope all enjoyed a restful weekend! All is well here in the mountain retreat as we begin preparations for another getaway. Canadian Thanksgiving is not that far off and we will be heading off to Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:29 PM Hi Tom and all,The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!Nick. Nice to see you survived the Irish rugger supporters invasion, enjoyed your Guildford station write up, sound a weird lot there but at least you met a friendly driver who let you at the controls.Mike. Was in with a great mass of interesting URL`s on Oregon Electric, restuarants and a nice selection of North Eastern RR pics and a vid of Lars`s favourite subject "Domes".Lars. Thanks for your kind words, it was a very sad occasion to have to read your final post and farewell, it`s been a real pleasure to have met you and to be associated with you here at "Our" place, your very interesting covAHS from the Larsman Mobile and all your repartee that you`ve shared so freely has made this place such a great delight to be a part of in this old world of ours`, I salute you and thank you for all the enjoyment you have given me over the time that i`ve known you. You will be greatly missed and that`s a FACT!CM3. Was in with his usual interesting info.Pete. Many thanks for your latest set of Shildon parade pics, a great lot of classic steam locos` indeed, and nice pics of that Royal British Legion trip behind Princess Elizabeth, and the nice Deltic pic, all "keepers"! Was a member of the Legion until migrating in 1969. Parsons are still operating as C A Parsons & Co at Heaton, Newcastle, they are now part of a Siemens group of companies, how things change over the years. See their is a link to the "Locomotion" museum at Shildon via the NRM site. Forgot to mention that I did watch the San Diego 7`s final, it`s nice to see ANY team put one over the SA rugby team anytime! The "Toon" are running out of time to WIN any games by the look of it!Eric. Enjoyed the nice pics and info you posted, have you been down to the Cracker Barrel yet? A neighbour of ours, who originates from Queens, NY, has family who have a winter home in Scotsdale near you, and she has seen your favourite restuarant several times when visiting there.Fergie. Nice to see you aboard again, nice Amtrak pic, go easy on that home decoration it can kind of snowball!Jan. Nice to see you again mate, that was a nice set of pics from you, back to your usual self I can see.Dan. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.Rob. Here in NZ you can`t get much further away from civilisation as you can down here, but it does have it`s compensations most of the time. Nice to see that you are taking over the Bar managers stint from Lars, hope you will have a smooth transition, enjoyed all your info and pics and chats.Tom. Totally agree with you that 15 is far too young to hold a drivers licence, but it`s been on the statute books here since licences were first issued, at the moment their is a campaign to raise it to 17 because of a "boy racer" problem here, but the very vocal farming lobby is against it! I totally support all of your comments about Lars`s place here, he will be greatly missed for sure. It is very fitting « First«120121122123124125126»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!
Nick. Nice to see you survived the Irish rugger supporters invasion, enjoyed your Guildford station write up, sound a weird lot there but at least you met a friendly driver who let you at the controls.
Mike. Was in with a great mass of interesting URL`s on Oregon Electric, restuarants and a nice selection of North Eastern RR pics and a vid of Lars`s favourite subject "Domes".
Lars. Thanks for your kind words, it was a very sad occasion to have to read your final post and farewell, it`s been a real pleasure to have met you and to be associated with you here at "Our" place, your very interesting covAHS from the Larsman Mobile and all your repartee that you`ve shared so freely has made this place such a great delight to be a part of in this old world of ours`, I salute you and thank you for all the enjoyment you have given me over the time that i`ve known you. You will be greatly missed and that`s a FACT!
CM3. Was in with his usual interesting info.
Pete. Many thanks for your latest set of Shildon parade pics, a great lot of classic steam locos` indeed, and nice pics of that Royal British Legion trip behind Princess Elizabeth, and the nice Deltic pic, all "keepers"! Was a member of the Legion until migrating in 1969. Parsons are still operating as C A Parsons & Co at Heaton, Newcastle, they are now part of a Siemens group of companies, how things change over the years. See their is a link to the "Locomotion" museum at Shildon via the NRM site. Forgot to mention that I did watch the San Diego 7`s final, it`s nice to see ANY team put one over the SA rugby team anytime! The "Toon" are running out of time to WIN any games by the look of it!
Eric. Enjoyed the nice pics and info you posted, have you been down to the Cracker Barrel yet? A neighbour of ours, who originates from Queens, NY, has family who have a winter home in Scotsdale near you, and she has seen your favourite restuarant several times when visiting there.
Fergie. Nice to see you aboard again, nice Amtrak pic, go easy on that home decoration it can kind of snowball!
Jan. Nice to see you again mate, that was a nice set of pics from you, back to your usual self I can see.
Dan. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.
Rob. Here in NZ you can`t get much further away from civilisation as you can down here, but it does have it`s compensations most of the time. Nice to see that you are taking over the Bar managers stint from Lars, hope you will have a smooth transition, enjoyed all your info and pics and chats.
Tom. Totally agree with you that 15 is far too young to hold a drivers licence, but it`s been on the statute books here since licences were first issued, at the moment their is a campaign to raise it to 17 because of a "boy racer" problem here, but the very vocal farming lobby is against it! I totally support all of your comments about Lars`s place here, he will be greatly missed for sure. It is very fitting
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