Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams XXX on Jan's tab please RUTH.
ROB Enjoyed reading about the Bay of Quinte Railway. There are some Scottish names like Bannockburn and Tweed served by the railway as well as the English Syndenham.
Is the BQ right of way today a trail passing those old mills and plants.
Thanks for the kind words on my photos of the model layout at KC, it would be good if the lady does call in to Our Place from time to time, but if not, it is still great to have someone take the time and say thanks.
Yes almost a year of the new Our Place. I think if we had a competition a year ago I doubt if anyone could have guessed that we would have around 3,200 posts and 100,000 views a year later, and as often said the posts are of marvelous quality. A5X salute indeed.
ERIC I remembered the gauntlet track although, it was very rare in the UK I believe, although on the Great Western Railway for many years there was mixed gauge track with three rails for the GW 7ft ¼ inch Broad Gauge and the 4ft 8 ½ inch Standard Gauge until the broad gauge was abolished in 1892.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_gauge
A link to some mixed gauge lines.
It would be interesting to see the pointwork at the start and end of the gauntlet track.
Many thanks for the photos.
MOPAC BARRETT TUNNEL. Many thanks for a very enjoyable post; I live near the old MoPac line here in Mid Mo although I am a newcomer. Tom and I were recently at the Museum of Transportation at Kirkwood and while we were there a short freight hauled by two of the smaller UP diesels were making a great sound coming up Kirkwood Hill, how I wish it could have been 5342. Thanks for sharing.
CM3 to you for tomorrow
Just a quick question, how did they keep those sleeping cars heated after they were detached and before the passengers left.
Many thanks for the details on Mopac's post and Pennsylvania Railroad's coast-to-coast sleeping car services. It seems the PRR had a good relationship with all the railroads west of Chicago.
LARS Hope you able to get in the bar tomorrow, if not, have a great trip down to the KEYS.
Many thanks for those great Missouri Pacific bookcovers. I think the 5th one of the first set could be a painting of a Mo Pac Alco along side the Missouri between Washington MO and Jeff City. I wonder if the painting on the cover of ‘Cabooses of the Missouri Pacific Lines' shows the Works in Sedalia, I believe the building is still standing.
TOM Another Law of Close Encounters is that, if you have skived off work someone from work will see you.
I'm afraid you have missed the ‘E's off my DoNut Machine entry.
I was lucky enough to see Polar Express in a cinema when it first came out with the bride's family as you say the film was enjoyed by all ages.
You are so right about the photos posted at the bar, it so wonderful that most of them can be enlarged on the web so the full effect of the photos can be appreciated.
Good words for Mopac.
Many thanks for the Christmas RR Travel Nostalgia. Loved the NYC ones with one in rhyme and another well-written ad from the Pullman Company.
A couple of photos.
KCS Dome Car at Kansas City.
At Jeff
G'day Gents!
Not a very active week at the Bar by the Ballast - but that was anticipated. But I figure the guys who are around appreciate very much the offerings this week from Lars - Pete - CM3 Shane - Rob - Eric 'n the new guy <if in fact he returns> MoPac <unless he decides to offer up a name - that's IT!>
Correction made Pete . . . Es are very important!
Email to "a few" received from Lars . . .
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The finale for my reruns of train travel at Christmastime!
Christmas train travel NOSTALGIA
CHRISTMAS RR TRAVEL #8 of 8
<A form of this was initially Posted on 12 Dec 2005, Page 190 on the Original Thread>
THE PULLMAN COMPANY
Happy holiday homecoming by Pullman!
Your local Ticket Agent will help: 1. Provide information on routes and fares. 2. Help you plan stopovers. 3. Furnish rail and Pullman tickets. 4 Reserve a "rent-a-car" at your destination.
YOU'RE SAFE AND SURE WHEN YOU TRAVEL BY PULLMANthe travel service of comfort, privacy and sleep!
That's it for this day - hope you enjoyed these advertisements from Christmas seasons past. It was my pleasure to present them to you! Tom
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and crew
siberianmo wrote:G'day Gents!Not a very active week at the Bar by the Ballast - but that was anticipated. But I figure the guys who are around appreciate very much the offerings this week from Lars - Pete - CM3 Shane - Rob - Eric 'n the new guy <if in fact he returns> MoPac <unless he decides to offer up a name - that's IT!> Correction made Pete . . . Es are very important! Email to "a few" received from Lars . . .
I'll have a Coffee to go please. Just say NO to Turkey!
Hard to waddle up to the bar when you got a full caboose load! I imagine there's a few Trestle Bridges groaning ou there!
Speaking of "Pullman" Just bought a Rapido CN Green livery "Hudson Bay" 10-5 Sleeper and ordered a CN Baggage car due out in the New Year.
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Good evening Leon , nice cold rainy night here today wish teh weather would pick what it wants to do <sheesh> I think a hot rum punch on Mr jan's tab will be what teh Dr ordered tonight sir with a Keith's chaser
Tom-Thanks for passing on the email , it was a good read Nice wind up for the week with the rest of the Christmas passenger posts.You are right a low key meet and greet is likley the best we can manage on the first , still through everything we've had one good year.Perhaps I'll run a tab for the day and treat the bunch, that may drag some participation out
We might just have to run a speacial day later on in January , nothing says the shindig has to be done on the first, most of us won't be up till afternoon anyway
Lars-Ah yes two fine runs of Mopac books as a send off for your trip.Hopefully it will bring ouit the best in Mr Mopac a 5x for all your tireless efforts this year. hopping you and yours have a fine fine trip and a grrrreat New Year.I'll be in and out myself on the first so perhaps a raincheck for the party later in the month may be better.It is a Leap year this year so perhaps a Feb 29th Luau may be the way to go. I'll have to think on it.H&H could fire up the Zepplin and drag in some Hawaiian treats for us hmmm must ponder
Eric-As soon as I have anything real on John's new old book I'll let you know. I imagine that they will be an extremely low run so I can pick one up for you and mail it to you perhaps. It will be one we sell at the museum so again I'll keep you posted.
Shane-Thanks for all the train info , great info added to the mix as per usual Also a most happy to you tomorrow,be safebut have a blast.
Mopac-[welcome] on into the best darn saloon by the siding , an absolutley bang on first post. Hopefully the first of many.
Fergie-I'm kinda waddling myself at the moment, hazzards of the season to be sure.Hoep you've got the hatches battened for that snowstrom you are getting or have gotten this weekend. Good reason to enjoy the nog and play on the M.E.S.S.
Pete-You can see the strong ties to the old country that we still have here. there are a lot of towns and cities in Ontario and indeed accross the country with English Irish French and Scottish names part of what makes us Canadian. Hope you have a wonderfull trip on the first I'm sure you will come back with some stories
Rob
All right , I think I'll nab another rum punch from Leon and I'll jot down another encore from the old thread. This will also be one of the former Classic steam series, and also ties in so of our more recent rail topics. this one deals with the Ontario oil belt and it's service by the Canada Southern RY.
CLASSIC STEAM #14 THE CSR's ST CLAIR BRANCH
This was first printed out onto the old thread around page #226 or so.
Up until 1960 people in the "oil belt" of Ontario would have been familiar with trains along the Canada Southern's St Clair Branch right up until it's abandonenment in 1960.Trains of box cars tanks and passenger cars were regulars on this line right up until it's ending.
This line of the Canada Southern ( CASO ) was one of several railway lines whose builders saw this area as a convenient short cut between American cities in this case Chicago and Buffalo via Ontario.Yet the difference with this one is that it was launched by Canadians William Thompson and Adam Cooke,although most of their time and effort was spent in the US looking for US intrest and financing.
While the Caso's mainline would run arrow straight from Niagara Falls to Windsor ( some of the heaviest rail built in Ontario in fact ), the St Clair branch veered northwestward from a junction just west of St Thomas and continued on through to the St Clair River. Here , at a point on the railroad called Courtright,( named for Milton Courtright the railways principal investor )the railway had hoped to establish a major railway terminus, with a bridge accross the busy St Clair River to the Michigan side.From there trains would make their way to Chicago,and to the rest of the American West.
The American link failed however,and the Windsor route with it's tunnel under the Detroit River earned the bulk of the rail traffic from Southwestern Ontario.The grand scheme of a bridge over the St Clair River was then reduced to a barge operation.This operated accross the river from Courtright and St Clair for a few years until it burned and sank. With the sinking sank tio last vestige of this American link to Chicago and beyond.
The Caso pinned it's early hopes on a reprieve and revenue on this line with teh oil boom in the 1860's. this put places like Petrolia Ontario and Oil Springs Ontario on the map and provided easier acess to these boom towns. To help boost the revunes on this line a new line called the Chatham Sarnia and Eastern ( CSE ) was created. It began in a town called Shrewsbury on Lake Erie and it was intended that it would pass through Oil Springs and Petrolia and terminate at Sarnia,interchanging with the Pere Marquette & C&O.However this project never went beyond short temporary spurs built from the Caso St Clair Branch north to Petrolia and South to Oil Springs. Later the hub of this oil Industry moved to Sarnia where te Pere Marquette was already established.The CSE was then absorbed into the Canada Southern which bypassed the spurs and built the line to follow the St Clair River to Sarnia
Once these short lived oil pockets tapped out the line was given up for abandonement as the ligth agricultural and wood product and the small mixed trains were not enough to keep this piece of the Canda southern viable so in January of 1960 it was abandoned after about 80 years of sporadic frieght rvenues.
Good Evening, All!!!Leon, I'd like to by the house a round {roundhouse - oh, I bad......} of "Nuclear Nogs" with a snifter of Remy Martin alongside. Y'all have heard of boilermakers, right? Well, my combination's a "boiler explosion {My Nuclear Nog is 151 Bacardi-spiked, remember}!" If Boris is still hungry, I brought some PPF......... Oh, and could I get a double cheeseburger and fries, if the kitchen's still open, please?You all sure know how to make a newbie feel welcome. Lars, Tom, everyone - I'm Chris, and I'm glad to meet you all! Tom, I'll start with you, since we're both in "Gateway." I've actually been banging aound the general forum here and over at Trains for over a year now. I kind of shied away from coming in here for a couple reasons. One, I've been playing drums professionally since 1987, and I've seen more "Pubs, clubs, 'n taverns" than I care to admit - my reticence is sort of a "who wants to hang out in their place of business" - type thing, you know? {Offline, this is indeed the case - I was never one for the bar scene, unless the band was working.} My second reason for being a bit gun-shy is due to some unpleasant experiences I've had on other forums/boards/blogs over the years; I've been a "Web-Rat" since '97, and I've seen {and a few times, been hurt by} things that would put most people off the 'Net for good. So, if at first I might seem a bit "standoffish," please don't take it that way; I'm not, I'm just a little shy and cautious, until I get settled in. Once I do - look out!! This place will be hummin', trust me! And one more thing - whilst I have every intention of becoming a regular here ASAP, don't be surprised if I seem to post at odd hours, or wildly different times of the day/night. My schedule is pretty crazy; in addition to the band, I own my own Internet business, and do the odd temp-job assignment, so I'm pretty unpredictable as to when I might pop in for a mug-n-chat.
I think for now, I'm going to do my usual way of "working the room" here and adress you all individually, until I settle in. So, to start off, I'm going to keep our "winter" theme going in appropriate style, with the following:
This is a shot taken by me on 3/10/1984. It's looking west on the MoP's Kirkwood Hill; just around the curve is the Barrett Station Road overpass, and the Transport Museum. The other neat thing about this pic is something I've highlighted:The arrow is pointing right at the real MopacBarrettTunnel - the easternmost one, which is not "on" the Museum grounds proper, although they own it. My brother and I practically lived here as we were both growing up; this shot was taken as I was standing under the signal bridge {since replaced, sadly}. This stretch of "The Hill," the Museum, and the nearby Frisco Springfield Sub were regularly haunted by us as youths - and we frequently had cameras with us, as we got older....... Keep the date of this pic in mind - it'll gain significance shortly.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, I would like a Filet Mignon with mushrooms! Before the meal I'll have a large spiked Egg nog! I know, JanOlov will take care of that! This day there will be a big Birthday Party in Boris' shed! CM3 will be there most of the day. Yeah, Boris tied him to that chair so he can't leave. Happy Birthday!!!
MopacBarrettTunnel – Welcome to the Tavern by the siding, “Our” Place! I like your story including a couple of nice photos! MT-73 was a very good looking locomotive. Do you know if any of those MT-73 has been preserved? The Barrett Tunnel.Tom – Pete and I trying to derail our Manager? No, no, and no! We are trying to help him in any way we can. Narrow gauge ‘n standard gauge is (was) pretty common. The picture below shows such a “dual” track in the old country.
I like the retired life! It is pretty easy to get adjusted to it!A couple of more Pullman Christmas ads! Safe, comfortable, dependable! New York Central wants people to give tickets, the gift that brings them home! CM3 – Happy Birthday!!!! Have a great one!!!I think that is pretty normal in most countries that you can remain in your sleeper until a civilized hour after arriving to the last stop. I know that is still the case in the old country. Thanks for all the info on PRR’s sleeping car service! Very interesting. I like those long trips, staying on the train and just relax!. Lars – Stirring the proverbial pot? I have no clue what you are talking about. We are just a little bit disappointed you left us behind on your trip. But we forgive you! Wow, a whole bunch of MoPac covers! I am curious about MoPac in Nebraska!
I know, I have shown this one before. Atchison, KS.
Pete – I am afraid I did not take any pictures of the pointwork at the start and end of the gauntlet tracks. Was the last broad gauge in UK abolished in 1892? or was it just that mixed gauge track? Is that KCS Dome Car just on display? Maybe part of a museum? Fergie – Looking forward to some pictures of your new cars when they are running in a M.E.S.S. train.Rob – Sounds good about that new old book! I understand that you have had some bad weather. Lots of snow? Interesting reading about the CSR’s St Clair Branch! Reading it I am kind of surprised it survived until 1960!
Eric
I had to come back. Just saw Chris' latest post!
Again, most Welcome to Our Place!!! It is always interesting to learn to know a "new" person. It seems like we have one thing in common, late hours! Or, maybe more correct, odd hours.
About myself, I came to this country 15 years ago from the old country (Sweden) where I was a locomotive engineer for many years. Here, in Arizona, I am a retiree since one week back.
Thanks for the info on the "real" Barrett tunnel! I read about those tunnels some time ago but was not sure about the exact location of the real one. I posted a photo of the tunnel that ends next to the museum.
Nice to see you, Sir!
coalminer3 wrote: Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please and slide the pie case down here.Weather here is clear for the moment although it is supposed to rain later today. We had a real heavy frost and lots of fog in between the hills.Let's see what's happening today.Rob stopped by with comments and BQ material from days past.Eric - The passengers could remain on the sleepers until a "civilized" hour. It's hard to believe how much different things were back then.Sven - Good to hear from you, sir.Lars - Could not believe that the football gods smiled upon us. Gotta love it! Anyway, we'll be TV-side on Saturday. I am just anxious as to which or our Jints team will show up - you know what I mean, I'm sure. Also, thanks for the inclusion of more Christmas train material.Pete - Yes, switching was done with electric power. Mopac - Good story. I was interested to read about the "Non passenger 3d Section." As you mentioned, the train did not have to make stops but maintained its tt rights. Put another way, you ran on a schedule with a "slot," but didn't get all hung up with being an extra. IMHO, MP had some of the most elegant looking steam power of any road. For those interested, they had four sets of 4-8-2s which were classified as MT73.5308-5312 were blt at Schenectady in 1921. 5313-5316 came from Schenectady two years later.5335-5339 were blt by Brooks in 1927.5340-5344 were blt by Schenectady in 1930.They shared some common dimensions: 27x30 cylinders and 73-inch drivers. Steam pressure varied from 210-250, depending on date of construction. And tractive force ran between 53,475 and 63,665, again depending on when constructed.OSP has been cleaning the vaults of advertising material from Pullman, ATSF, and NYC. Well, I did some looking as well and here's some material (again from 1950) re transcontinental sleeping car service. Enjoy.In 1950, the Pennsylvania Railroad provided coast to coast sleeping car service on four different routes. Passengers between New York and Los Angeles could travel every day on either the Overland Route or the so-called "Santa Fe" route. Service ran very other day on the Golden State Route. Riders between New York and San Francisco could travel every day on the Overland Route or every other day on the California Zephyr Route.Let's look at each route.Overland Route service to Los Angeles was coordinated between PRR Train 49, the "General" and UP Train 1, the "Los Angeles Limited." Transcontinental passengers rode in a 10 roomette/6 double bedroom car which left New York at 5:00 p.m. and arrived in Chicago at 8:00 a.m. the next morning. The "Los Angeles Limited" departed Chicago at 1201 p.m. and ran via the C&NW/UP with a 10:40 a.m. arrival in Los Angeles two days later.Eastbound passengers traveled via UP Train 2, the "Los Angeles Limited" to Chicago where the through car continued east on PRR Train 2, the "Pennsylvania Limited." The train departed Los Angeles at 1201 p.m. and arrived in Chicago at 2:00 p.m. two days later. Eastbound from Chicago, PRR 2 departed at 630 p.m. with an 11:59 a.m. arrival the next day in New York. Service here again was in a 10 roomette/6 double bedroom car.Overland Route Service to San Francisco operated via the PRR-C&NW, SP, and SP. PRR Train 55, the "Gotham Limited" handled a 10 roomette 6 double bedroom car to Chicago, and it continued west on C&NW, UP, SP Train27, the "San Francisco Overland." This car left New York at 11:40 p.m. and arrived in Chicago Union Station at 3:40 p.m. The car was moved to Northwestern Station where it departed on Train 27 at 8:00 p.m. It reached San Francisco at 6:50 p.m. two days later. Eastbound the 10 roomette/6 double bedroom San Francisco car ran on SP-UP-C&NW 28, the "San Francisco Overland," and on PRR 70, the "Admiral." SP 28 pulled out at 11:00 a.m. and arrived two days later at Northwestern Station, Chicago at 1:00 p.m. PRR 70 departed Union Station at 5:30 p.m. with an 11:45 a.m. arrival in New York the next day.The cars were transferred between Northwestern Station and Union Station at Chicago.The Santa Fe Route westbound was covered by PRR 29, the "Broadway Limited," and ATSF Train 19, the "Chief." This service operated a 4 compartment/2 drawing room/4 double bedroom car. Passengers paid a $10.15 extra fare surcharge to ride the "Chief." Westbound service departed New York at 6:00 p.m. and arrived in Chicago at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. The car was switched from Union Station to Dearborn Station for a 1:30 p.m. departure on TSF Train 19. Arrival in Los Angeles was at 8:30 a.m. two days later. Eastbound, ATSF Train 20, the "Chief" departed Los Angeles at 12:30 p.m. and arrive at Dearborn Station Chicago at 11:30 a.m. two days later. The car was moved to Union Station where it departed at 4:30 p.m. on PRR 28, the "Broadway Limited," which arrived in New York at 9:30 a.m. the next day.The "Golden State" route carried a 4 compartment/2 drawing room/4 double bedroom car between New York and Los Angeles on a PRR-Rock Island-SP routing. Passengers paid a $10.15 extra fare surcharge to ride the "Golden State." Westbound travelers rode the Pennsy's Train 55, the "Gotham Limited" to Chicago to connect with RI-SP Train 3, the "Golden State." Train 55 departedNew York at 11:40 p.m. and arrived at Union Station, Chicago at 3:40 p.m. the next afternoon. The car was moved to LaSalle St. Station where it departed ay 10:15 p.m. with a 5:15 p.m. arrival in Los Angeles after a two day trip. Eastbound, SP-RI Train 4, "Golden State," handled the cross country sleeper to Chicago. It finished its eastbound journey on PRR 48, "The General." Train 4 departed Los Angeles at 12:30 p.m. with a two day later arrival at LaSalle St., Chicago ay 11:30 a.m. Train 48 departed Union Station at 3:30 p.m. and arrived in New York at 8:30 the next morning.Travelers using the California Zephyr Route did not have to have their cars switched at Chicago as all arrivals and departures were at Union Station. This route was covered by a 10 roomette/6 double bedroom car which left New York westbound on PRR Train 1, the "Pennsylvania Limited," at 6:45 p.m. It arrived in Chicago at 10:25 a.m. the next day. CB&Q-DRGW-WP Train 17, the "California Zephyr" left Chicago at 3:30 p.m. with a two day later arrival in San Francisco at 4:50 p.m. Eastward, WP-DRGW-CB&Q Train 18 departed San Francisco at 9:00 a.m. with a two day later arrival in Chicago at 1:30 p.m. PRR Train 48, the "General," handled the eastbound car. It left Chicago at 3:30 p.m. with an 8:30 a.m. arrival the next day in New York.Work safe
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please and slide the pie case down here.
Weather here is clear for the moment although it is supposed to rain later today. We had a real heavy frost and lots of fog in between the hills.
Let's see what's happening today.
Rob stopped by with comments and BQ material from days past.
Eric - The passengers could remain on the sleepers until a "civilized" hour. It's hard to believe how much different things were back then.
Sven - Good to hear from you, sir.
Lars - Could not believe that the football gods smiled upon us. Gotta love it! Anyway, we'll be TV-side on Saturday. I am just anxious as to which or our Jints team will show up - you know what I mean, I'm sure. Also, thanks for the inclusion of more Christmas train material.
Pete - Yes, switching was done with electric power.
Mopac - Good story. I was interested to read about the "Non passenger 3d Section." As you mentioned, the train did not have to make stops but maintained its tt rights. Put another way, you ran on a schedule with a "slot," but didn't get all hung up with being an extra.
IMHO, MP had some of the most elegant looking steam power of any road. For those interested, they had four sets of 4-8-2s which were classified as MT73.
5308-5312 were blt at Schenectady in 1921.
5313-5316 came from Schenectady two years later.
5335-5339 were blt by Brooks in 1927.
5340-5344 were blt by Schenectady in 1930.
They shared some common dimensions: 27x30 cylinders and 73-inch drivers. Steam pressure varied from 210-250, depending on date of construction. And tractive force ran between 53,475 and 63,665, again depending on when constructed.
OSP has been cleaning the vaults of advertising material from Pullman, ATSF, and NYC. Well, I did some looking as well and here's some material (again from 1950) re transcontinental sleeping car service. Enjoy.
In 1950, the Pennsylvania Railroad provided coast to coast sleeping car service on four different routes. Passengers between New York and Los Angeles could travel every day on either the Overland Route or the so-called "Santa Fe" route. Service ran very other day on the Golden State Route. Riders between New York and San Francisco could travel every day on the Overland Route or every other day on the California Zephyr Route.
Let's look at each route.
Overland Route service to Los Angeles was coordinated between PRR Train 49, the "General" and UP Train 1, the "Los Angeles Limited." Transcontinental passengers rode in a 10 roomette/6 double bedroom car which left New York at 5:00 p.m. and arrived in Chicago at 8:00 a.m. the next morning. The "Los Angeles Limited" departed Chicago at 1201 p.m. and ran via the C&NW/UP with a 10:40 a.m. arrival in Los Angeles two days later.
Eastbound passengers traveled via UP Train 2, the "Los Angeles Limited" to Chicago where the through car continued east on PRR Train 2, the "Pennsylvania Limited." The train departed Los Angeles at 1201 p.m. and arrived in Chicago at 2:00 p.m. two days later. Eastbound from Chicago, PRR 2 departed at 630 p.m. with an 11:59 a.m. arrival the next day in New York. Service here again was in a 10 roomette/6 double bedroom car.
Overland Route Service to San Francisco operated via the PRR-C&NW, SP, and SP. PRR Train 55, the "Gotham Limited" handled a 10 roomette 6 double bedroom car to Chicago, and it continued west on C&NW, UP, SP Train27, the "San Francisco Overland." This car left New York at 11:40 p.m. and arrived in Chicago Union Station at 3:40 p.m. The car was moved to Northwestern Station where it departed on Train 27 at 8:00 p.m. It reached San Francisco at 6:50 p.m. two days later.
Eastbound the 10 roomette/6 double bedroom San Francisco car ran on SP-UP-C&NW 28, the "San Francisco Overland," and on PRR 70, the "Admiral." SP 28 pulled out at 11:00 a.m. and arrived two days later at Northwestern Station, Chicago at 1:00 p.m. PRR 70 departed Union Station at 5:30 p.m. with an 11:45 a.m. arrival in New York the next day.
The cars were transferred between Northwestern Station and Union Station at Chicago.
The Santa Fe Route westbound was covered by PRR 29, the "Broadway Limited," and ATSF Train 19, the "Chief." This service operated a 4 compartment/2 drawing room/4 double bedroom car. Passengers paid a $10.15 extra fare surcharge to ride the "Chief." Westbound service departed New York at 6:00 p.m. and arrived in Chicago at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. The car was switched from Union Station to Dearborn Station for a 1:30 p.m. departure on TSF Train 19. Arrival in Los Angeles was at 8:30 a.m. two days later.
Eastbound, ATSF Train 20, the "Chief" departed Los Angeles at 12:30 p.m. and arrive at Dearborn Station Chicago at 11:30 a.m. two days later. The car was moved to Union Station where it departed at 4:30 p.m. on PRR 28, the "Broadway Limited," which arrived in New York at 9:30 a.m. the next day.
The "Golden State" route carried a 4 compartment/2 drawing room/4 double bedroom car between New York and Los Angeles on a PRR-Rock Island-SP routing. Passengers paid a $10.15 extra fare surcharge to ride the "Golden State." Westbound travelers rode the Pennsy's Train 55, the "Gotham Limited" to Chicago to connect with RI-SP Train 3, the "Golden State." Train 55 departed
New York at 11:40 p.m. and arrived at Union Station, Chicago at 3:40 p.m. the next afternoon. The car was moved to LaSalle St. Station where it departed ay 10:15 p.m. with a 5:15 p.m. arrival in Los Angeles after a two day trip.
Eastbound, SP-RI Train 4, "Golden State," handled the cross country sleeper to Chicago. It finished its eastbound journey on PRR 48, "The General." Train 4 departed Los Angeles at 12:30 p.m. with a two day later arrival at LaSalle St., Chicago ay 11:30 a.m. Train 48 departed Union Station at 3:30 p.m. and arrived in New York at 8:30 the next morning.
Travelers using the California Zephyr Route did not have to have their cars switched at Chicago as all arrivals and departures were at Union Station. This route was covered by a 10 roomette/6 double bedroom car which left New York westbound on PRR Train 1, the "Pennsylvania Limited," at 6:45 p.m. It arrived in Chicago at 10:25 a.m. the next day. CB&Q-DRGW-WP Train 17, the "California Zephyr" left Chicago at 3:30 p.m. with a two day later arrival in San Francisco at 4:50 p.m. Eastward, WP-DRGW-CB&Q Train 18 departed San Francisco at 9:00 a.m. with a two day later arrival in Chicago at 1:30 p.m. PRR Train 48, the "General," handled the eastbound car. It left Chicago at 3:30 p.m. with an 8:30 a.m. arrival the next day in New York.
Work safe
{No, I'm fine right now, Leon.}
EricX2000 wrote: I had to come back. Just saw Chris' latest post! Again, most Welcome to Our Place!!! It is always interesting to learn to know a "new" person. It seems like we have one thing in common, late hours! Or, maybe more correct, odd hours. About myself, I came to this country 15 years ago from the old country (Sweden) where I was a locomotive engineer for many years. Here, in Arizona, I am a retiree since one week back. Thanks for the info on the "real" Barrett tunnel! I read about those tunnels some time ago but was not sure about the exact location of the real one. I posted a photo of the tunnel that ends next to the museum. Nice to see you, Sir! Eric
{Okay, Leon, I'm ready - another "boiler explosion" please......}
Right back at you, fellow Night-Owl!! I can see I'm "in trouble" already - this place is so addictive! Great info, great bunch of regulars, and a worlwide clientele - who could ask for more? Myself, I'd kill to play {or at least become a regular} in a place like this if it were in the "real" world -it's that good!Thanks for the kind comments, Eric - I could go on for months about my beloved "Kirkwood Hill" memories, but I don't want to try and tell them all at one sitting {although this place tempts me to give it a go}. Love the X2000 in your s/n here, Mate - I'm still kicking myself over NOT having my camera with me, when I saw the prototype on my old stomping grounds during it's tour in '92 or '93..........
EricX2000 wrote: MopacBarrettTunnel – Welcome to the Tavern by the siding, “Our” Place! I like your story including a couple of nice photos! MT-73 was a very good looking locomotive. Do you know if any of those MT-73 has been preserved? The Barrett Tunnel.
MopacBarrettTunnel – Welcome to the Tavern by the siding, “Our” Place! I like your story including a couple of nice photos! MT-73 was a very good looking locomotive. Do you know if any of those MT-73 has been preserved? The Barrett Tunnel.
{Leon, Eric's got me hungry again - could I trouble you for another double-cheeseburger and fries? Looks like a "fair stretch" is shaping up.......}Forgive me, Mate - I'm working "backwards" in my replies just now, so don't be too confused with me answering your last post first - I do this sort of thing all the time, when I'm "settling in." Now, to answer your question, no the MoP didn't save any of their MT-73's, sadly. Or nearly every other steam class, save a couple TN-60/67 4-6-0's. Since you've been to the Museum, you've seen one of them, Eric - St. Louis, Iron Mountain & Southern #635, fka MP#2707. {The other one is #2522, currently rotting away in Paris, Arkansas}.
How'd you manage a "downgrade end" shot of the tunnel, Mate? Last time I visited {'04}, it was fenced off.
LoveDomes wrote: Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!Ruth my deAH, fill up the coffee mug wudja ‘n I'll check out the pastry case . . . My, my - you are lookin' mighty fine ‘n I'm wonderin' HOW I can manage to get you down to the Keys ‘n maintain my <discreet nature> while doing it! <uh oh>Boris, treats for the crittAHs ‘n the small jar of PPF is for YOU!Well, this is my next-to-last day for posting at the bar for awhile. Not quite sure when I'll get "up" once we get settled in the Keys . . . surely hope to be back before the New Year! I'll try . . . which of course is all we can ask of any of the guys who frequent this joint. Speaking of which . . . Sorry if this disappoints anyone, but I've "seen" a couple of guys who occasionally stop by the bar. Fergie has been rathAH active on "his" forum - the model railroader one, which I think is "normal" for him. However, the guy called marthastrainyard (Per) was active yesterday ‘n today on a different forum than ours. Thought he said he'd be back here in late November??? Has he too decided to give up on us WITHOUT even a fair-thee-well??? Hope not . . .We've been down this road B4 with guys who are now UTB's . . . gets really OLD thinking one thing ‘n then realizing another. <barf> Good to see the possibility of getting another customer at the bar. Like the way the guy from Lemay handled his first visit with us. Now to see if he'll be back . . . to "Our" Place - MoPacBarrettTunnel - there's gotta be a "name" attached to that monikAH! In absence of one - I think what Shane dubbed him will 'work' - MoPac!! yeah, that "sounds" right. So UNLESS you tell us otherwise - YOU, Sir are MoPac to us. Really a great looking Mountain loco ‘n the transfer caboose! Enjoyed the "story" too . . . Fine way to get going at the Watering Hole by the Wayside! Since I'm the Manager ‘round here, let me know if there's anything I can do to help make you feel at home . . . we pride ourselves on being a small but interactive group. HARDLY the <crap> that goes on elsewhere with the HIT ‘n RUN posts, etc. Nope, we acknowledge the other guy - as you'll find out when you review the pages recommended by Da Bossman! I see the "beat goes on" with Eric ‘n Pete still stirring the proverbial "pot." Can't get me going guyz - just ain't gonna happen! <grin>Hey Rob! Some fine "stuff" from our southern Ontario guy . . . good idea about a New Year's blast - BUT I think Cap'n Tom hit it on the head. We're really not "flush" with people as once upon a time. Let's see - New Years Day means all those who are "work day only postAHs" will be gone - then there are those who are away from home (me - Allan in NZ - Pete) and B4 you know it - who is left???? Might be a tough road to hoe - but give it a TRY! If I'm online then, I'll surely participate! [tup Want to wish Shane a Happy Birthday (29th of Dec) just in case I can't get "in" tomorrow!! OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone. Ok - time for another spate of reruns from the Larsman Mobile of Classic Trains "stuff" . . . these are "for" our new friend from Lemay, MO - MoPac! <grin> MoPac Color Guide to Freight & Passenger EquipmentMoPac Diesel PowerMoPac in Color, Vol 1 - The Era of the Eagles Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:58 AM LoveDomes wrote: Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!Ruth my deAH, another jolt in the coffee mug if you please! <grin> Back with a few more covAHs for MoPac ‘n the crew! The RETURN of the Larsman Mobile . . . <grin>Route of the Eagles - MoPac in the Streamlined Era{Fine right now, Leon - thanks!}Lars, gonna start throwing a few curves {like my unusual way of replying, held over from the old days}, since you keep tempting me so with these fantastic covers. The cover shot for the above was taken on the inagural of the Eagle - March 10, 1940. The pics I put up a few posts ago were also taken on March 10 {of 1984}. Aside from the Eagle connection, the date has always been special for me - 3/10/1926 is the birth date of my late Father. But it gets even better, as will be seen shortly. LoveDomes wrote: Four-Eight-Fours on the MoPacDon't go there, Mate - easy avalanche-trigger, for me!!! Sexy steamers is another topic for another time, but here I'll say that I favor the MoP's 2101-series of Sedalia rebuilds ever-so-slighlty-ahead of their bought-new Baldwin 2201-class sisters............. LoveDomes wrote: Cabooses of the MoPac LinesSee above; this is easily e-book territory, in terms of what I could write about 'em. {Yes, before anyone asks - the possibility has and IS being considered.........} LoveDomes wrote: The Missouri Pacific Lines in ColorThis one's the "fatal" one, Mate. For you and all the rest here who have the book, turn to page 48, and take a look at the top pic on the page. Aside fom it's amazing rarity, the photographer who took the pic in the first place {credited as "R. Ecoff," for those who don't have it} was none other than MY Great-Uncle Ralph!!!! He was a proud MoP "mud hop" {yard clerk} by calling, and was obviously ahead of his time as a photo-bug {the color pic was shot in October 1939}. If that's not enough of a mind-blower for you, I've already introduced his son to you, with my debut post here - he's my cousin Danny!!!Deep Kimchu warning!! Deep Kimchu warning!! LoveDomes wrote: Note: Just a reminder that we try to keep our postings reasonable by NOT overloading the page . . . so six photos is pretty much our "norm" . . . exceptions on Saturdays! Ruth my deAH, you KNOW where I'll be . . . . <blush>Until the next time! Lars Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:44 AM {One more boiler-explosion please, Leon my good man!! Gettin' enough exercise tonight, eh?}Okay, I've monopolized enough for now, so I'll revert to customary practice around here, and consolidate my reply appropriately - you whom I'm about to mention, please don't feel I've slighted you by not keeping the 1-on-1 direct approach going for the rest of my session tonight. We'll get to that once we're all better acquainted, and I'm comfortable driving the PM's here.Pete/pwolfe - glad to be here, and glad you liked my debut - I think there just might be a bit more from where it came from, originally.........Rob/trolleyboy - thank you too, and yes indeed there will be a LOT more coming. Might be wise to bump the old bar-tab credit limit here UP a notch or three............... BTW - you do good work here too, from what I've seen so far in the Archives.And now, my final dazzle for the evenig/morning - the rest of the story I came with here tonight {what the hell - one more boiler-explosion please, Leon? A double, if you would?}:There was a VERY good reason for me to be out and about with my brother on March 10, 1984, despite the weather conditions - I just COULDN'T miss the sight of a working 4-8-4, charging Kirkwood Hill once again now, could I? Well, obviously I didn't!! Seeing the then-#8444 on my old stomping grounds {and on my Dad's b-day, no less} was a real one-of-a-kind "life experience" I'll NEVER forget, and will forever be truly grateful for. Crappy photo-quality aside, for me it doesn't get any better than this, my New Fine Friends!!!!'Nite, All!!!! GREAT time, tonight!!More shortly........................{Happily whistling, having already left my generous tip as is my usual custom........... 'Nite Leon, 'Nite Boris. Be careful getting home, once you're done here, OK?} Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:44 AM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the houseName that machine contest: Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) Welcome Mopac Chris, it is all good around here. It can't be CM3's again already. Time to shuffle off to BuffaloMike siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:41 AM <"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day! Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents! Happy Birthday to our long-time customer - CM3 Shane (coalminer3)! It's the final Saturday of 2007 - can you believe it Time to order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board - check out the pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n fill up your coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘b brewed special blend! Comments from the Proprietor: REMINDER: Drinks are "on Jan Olov" ‘til the New Year! So, don't be bashful - order away! PLENTY of holiday "nog" <spiked of course!> so help yourselves! Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!<closes on Fri, 07 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)Mike . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!> Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative) Friday - Dec 28th:CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:40 AM: Mate!You really provided a wealth of fine info with that transcontinental passenger car sleeper service . . . In fact, I believe you may have uncovered <finally> some answers to questions I've had in my aging mind for decades ‘n decades. Asked about it here - several times, with nary a response. Anyway, had to do with a train trip I took from Los Angeles to New York City via Chicago all by train back in 1947 or 48. I'm sure you recall some of the details . . . my father put me aboard a Santa Fe train in LA - alone - ‘n I was treated to one great experience all the way to NYCity . . . I recall a bedroom compartment (roomette I believe) - at least one dome car - a lounge observation at the end ‘n of course a dining car. I was 9 or 10 at the time - so that was a long, long time ago . . . One thing though is that I didn't have the same bedroom all the way . . . that much I do recall.There was a change of trains in Chicago - I do remember leaving one train and being taken to the other by train staff. Pretty hazy otherwise . . . the train home was the PRR, fer sure, fer sure.Just never knew the names of either train (LA to Chicago or Chicago to NYCity). Guessed that it was "one of the Chiefs" ‘n the Broadway Ltd - but really never knew for sure. Your account kinda gives me some insight to make me believe that I was correct. In spite of the difference in years - I think your data is close enough to shed the light where needed . . . Another visit with NO quarters! Hmmmmmmmm. BUT, any visit from our Resident WVA Connection is a PLUS for "Our" Place! Enjoy YOUR day, Mate! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:27 PM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day! Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.G'day Gents!Hmmmmm, guess I overspoke when mentioning it was gonna be a "good day." Appears as if everyone is elsewhere . . . Cindy, go ahead 'n secure for the day . . . Boris 'n I will take care of things. <grin> Yes Boris - feed the critters 'n the PPF is for you. Okay - so it's a day set aside for ENCORE! presentations 'n fotos too. Here are some from my archives that have been presented before . . . enjoy! Montreal's Central Station train board The "Ocean" at Halifax, NSEvangeline Park car at Halifax, Nova ScotiaChateau Brule sleeping car at Halifax, Nova ScotiaTrain #33 at Ottawa, OntarioVIA Rail Station, Ottawa, Ontario Later! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:06 PM Hi Tom and all.A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDYFERGIE Good to see you in the bar. It will be good to see photos of your latest model car additions to the MESS. ROB Many thanks for the Classic Steam on the St Clair Branch Encore. An interesting read of a line that so nearly became a main through route if the bridge had been built.Thanks for the wishes on the first.CHRIS and great to have you aboard. Thanks for the info about you. I am fairly new to the US having come over from England so I am still learning about North American railroads and their locomotives. It will be really good to read about the line that runs through here.At Jeff city by two pillars of the original brige across the Missouri they have created a small park with benches and a view of the railroad and the river. They have a boardthat shows a photo of thr roundhouse that was once there.Many thanks for the photos In a local diner here the walls were covered with railroad photos and adverts including an old Mo Pac calendar. One of the photos was large framed one of #8444 which must have been taken the same day as yours of the loco coming into Jefferson City with the Worlds Fair Special sign on it. Sadly the diner has recently had some refurbishment and the railroad theme as been replaced by a cowboy one.Perhaps you can help, on a recent Amtrak trip to Kirkwood I noticed, where the line runs alongside the Missouri it looks in places as though there is a trackbed running parallel to the tracks with remnants of bridges and it looks like a short tunnel. I wonder if the trackbed was moved at some time, it is only possible to see this in winter time when the trees have lost their leafsERIC I agree, as if us two would ever stir up anything with regards to Manager Lars and you know whom.Yes 1892 was the last year of the broad gauge on the Great Western The Didcot Railway Centre has an original goods shed that had openings for the broad gauge and standard gauge tracks and are building a Broad Gauge line in the museum.The KCS dome car is part of their vintage train I believe. The photo was taken on the day Tom and I went over to KC on Amtrak when the schedule allowed us a 4-hour stay. I believe the train was there as the KCS was showing new locomotives they had painted in a similar scheme to the old KCS vintage diesel.Many thanks for the photos. CM3.LARS Hope you have a safe trip and enjoyable time at the Keys. MIKE Great to see you in. What a great night photo of the steam locomotive.Very good name for the DoNut machine.TOM It is great that CM3 has provided you with the answer to the question you have long waited the answer for. The mine of information we have at Our Place really is amazing.A couple of photosUP diesel at Hermann MOAn LMS No 6233 Duchess of Sutherland at Carlisle, England A Virgin class 57 at Rugby.A toast to you all We are off to KC for a couple of days, hopefully I shall be able to call in at the Bar, but just in case I cannot.MAY I WISH ALL THE REGULARS AND THEIRS A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR AND A HAPPY ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY TO THE ‘NEW' OUR PLACE.Pete LoveDomes Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: northeast U.S. 1,225 posts Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:15 PM Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!Hey Bossman is behind the bar! Just like old times . . . I'll take a double belt of JD on the rocks if you please 'n slide the snack tray down my way wudja Boris, I see the crittAHs have been fed - good man. Keep doing that while I'm gone 'n try to be more of a help than a hindrance to our Proprietor, ok Ring the bell, Boris - these drinks are on me - last in 2007! CHEERS ALL! All preparations are complete 'n we're ready for departure in the morning . . . just hope we have a smooth ride. The Mrs. gets very disturbed when things turn to "bumpy." <uh oh>Thoughts in no particular ordAH - but thoughts nonetheless:For Shane! Nice work with the sleeper info . . . could read that kinda stuff forevAH! Really enjoyed it. Have a 'n many, many MORE, mate! 5- to you on this 'n every day in 2008! For Mike! I like that submission of yours for the Do-Nut MoSheen naming! Like Da Bossman said, very creative. Happy New Year to you!. Of course the New York Central "stuff" didn't "hurt" either! <grin> For Pete! Many thanks for a fine email surprise. NevAH say nevAH - maybe one day I'll just show up in your part of the country 'n then the three of us can partake in all of the good things at the Train Wreck saloon! Best to you in 2008! For Rob! Very glad you've decided to return to "Our" Place. It never was quite the same without you 'n it's very pleasing to know that your still with us. Happy 2008 to you! For Eric! Yeah sure, you 'n Pete would nevAH try to derail anything I have "going" with Ru . . . my friend! <grin> Wishing you a speedy 'n complete recovery from your upcoming surgery! Best to you in 2008. For Fergie! I doubt that you'll even see this - but on the chance that you do - A Happy New Year to our Canadian sailorman friend! For Jan! Don't know what this joint would be without your generosity 'n sense of humor. Appreciate having you around - too bad about those Swedish babes! <grin> Happy 2008 to you! For Dan! Hope you'll be able to resume a more regulAH schedule of appearances at the bar. The guys always look foward to your fine submissions from the UK rail scene <pubs too!> Happiest of 2008 to you, mate! For Sven - Allan & Ron! Appreciate the participation you've provided 'n I know the guys are looking forward to MORE in 2008. Best to you for a Happy New Year! For BK! Not a day passes at the bar without a thought of my "bookend." Best to you wherever you may travel 'n know that you'll always be part of this cyber bar 'n grill! Happy 2008, mate! MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:13 PM Afternoon, Gents!I'll have A French-Dip, fries, and a Michelob Amber Bock please, Tom. Hope Boris didn't scratch his poor head too hard, trying to figure out just what I was doing last night. Had great fun with the last one, and I'm up to speed with all the R&R {Rules and Regs} now, so we should be good to go. I've updated my forum profile - I've linked my MySpace page as both my homepage and blog in my profile here, so that all who want to find out a bit more about me can do so. Note - you won't find much mention of RR's on my homepage; for some reason, I have yet to put any train material up there. Most of my online-rail acvtivity has been at the forums here the last year or so anyway - my posts pretty much speak for themselves. I'll get the e-mail details to you as soon as I'm done with this post, Neighbor, and yes, I can get quite carried away when I'm excited about "juicy" subject matter..........Mike / wanswheel - Great to meet you, too! Love your contest entry; a man after my own heart. {Any Krispy Kremes left over from this morning, Tom?}Pete / pwolfe - thanks for the warm welcome, and it's great to meet anouther "transplant" so early on. I've done a bit of overseas "train-spotting" myself {yes, and took pictures}, so I'm just as fascinated with the trains across the pond, as you are with American trains. I'll do all I can to help broaden your knowledge ; a good place to start is in trying to answer the questions you asked about the MoP in Jeff City. The remnants you mentioned seeing in various places when the river's low are likely either traces of the origial right-of-way {the Sedalia Sub was single track until around 1924/5}, or are much more recent remains of flood damage {Jeff City has been hit hard in recent years, with the most famous one being the Great Flood of 1993}. I'm leaning towards the latter, although the MoP {and now UP} have done minor re-alignments in that area over the years. As for your pics my Friend, I'm in love with that gorgeous Dutchess - she definitely belongs on my "sexy steamer" list!!!That's about it for this one; I'll be back a bit later on wth some pics I took on a visit to Kirkwood Station in 1985 - until then, please feel free to peruse my forum postings here, All; they'll serve as my "encore" contributions for today.See you shortly - have a great weekend, All! Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:50 PM ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!at "Our" Place!We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs<But if you MUST 'say' something, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! >Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . December 30th to January 5th, 2008: Narrow Margin (1990) Starring: Gene Hackman, Anne Archer, James Sikking, J.T. Walsh & M. Emmet Walsh - and - Hour of the Gun (1967) Starring: James Garner, Jason Robards, Robert Ryan, Albert Salmi & Charles Aidman. SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Yoke's On Me (1944).<Note: Narrow Margin was shown at the Emporium for one day only on Jan 29th, 2006> Narrow Margin (1990)PLOT SUMMARY: A woman secretly witnesses the murder of her blind date for the evening by a top Mafia boss. She immediately goes into hiding without informing the authorities. When they finally catch up with her, she is unwilling to testify to what she has seen, but the Mafia are on her trail. Accompanied by a deputy district attorney, the woman boards a train traveling through a remote part of Canada. The Mafia know him but they have never seen her. <from: amazon.com> <This film is filled with many, many moving train shots of VIA Rail's "Canadian" on the CP main line to Vancouver! > Hour of the Gun (1967)PLOT SUMMARY: Guns don't stay in their holsters long when vigilantes Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday meet outlaws in the Wild West. James Garner (Maverick) and OscarÂ(r) winner* Jason Robards (All the President's Men) saddle up as the legendary gunslingers in this riveting, fact-based story that is "the closest filmmakers have ever come to the truth of the OK Corral gunfight" (LA Herald-Examiner). With the dust barely settling at the OK Corral, the notorious Clanton brothers unleash their revenge. One by one, they gun down Wyatt Earp's brothersbut they won't have the last shot. Using his US Marshal's badge as his authority, and Doc Holliday (Robards) as his deputizedright-hand man, Earp begins a zealous pursuit of vengeance that the west will never forget. <from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Yoke's On Me (1944)PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges failed their military entrance exams and decide to help the country by becoming farmers. Word is received that three men have escaped from a Relocation camp. The escapees later hide on the Stooges' farm. With the help of an explosive ostrich egg, the escapees are defeated. <from: threestooges.net> Enjoy the weekend! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:10 PM Evening, Everybody! Tom, might I trouble you for the fried Mozzarella / Ravioli combo-basket, {with the ranch dipping sauce} and another Michelob Amber Bock please? I see Boris is sporting a nifty 'Nog "mustache;" but I won't go any further than a quiet chuckle. Good - you've got The Game on; what I'd like to know is why I've heard so little mention of the '72 Dolphins? If anyone here can help with this question, please feel free.As promised, I'll wind up my first {and very pleasant} weekend here with some appropriate goodies {since this place is closed on Sunday, it'll give me plenty of time to get all the way through the pages here - I'll be fully "in the loop" come Monday}.One of the things I love most about railfanning are the happy coincidences that I've frequently had happen to me. My vignette with UP #844{4} is one such instance; and a wonderful afternoon spent at Kirkwood Station in June 1985 yielded the following pleasant surprises:This is the first of an eventual six trains I saw during my 2-hour visit. The "Armour Hammer" had already begun to drop, as denoted by the fresh paint on the lead GP50. Even though I was already mourning the eventual loss of the Jenks'-blue, I actally grew to like the interim image on the 3510, preferring the squared-off "North Little Rock-style" lettering over the UP's standard font. In best MoP fashion, bringing up the rear of the consist is a mother/slug set, on it's way back to Jeff City, after some repairs at the Choteau shops downtown. Also in best MoP fashion, the lead GP50 was isolated, while the slug set was online and working; just as in the steam days, the MoP always worked new repairs {or builds} immediately, to make sure all was in order, a practice that obviosly survived into the post-merger era. {Note the missing screens on the spark bonnets on the MP-15; this isn't sloppy shop practice; rather it was a sign that the unit had just been equipped with internal {in-stack} arrestors.}The final two pics for tonight are real gems:These pics are wonderful because of what they foretold; in 1985, the short-lived SPSF "marriage" was still being planned, and the Rio Grande was just SP's closest interchange partner. The train in question is actually a Cotton Belt trackage-rights manifest, one of six in each direction that ran daily {including the famous Blue Streak Merchandiser} at that time. This agreement was a condition of the 1982 UP-WP-MP merger, of course. I really didn't expect to see a caboose bringing up the rear {the rest of the MoP runs I saw including the one leading off here all had FRED's}, let alone the pretty little hack that rolled by me!!I caught the soon-to-be-gone eastbound Amtrak River Cities and three more westbounds before calling it a day; the only thing I missed that would have made this day truly perfect was a shot of the newly-inaugurated appearance of the daily MKT trackage-rights manifest {in those days, it usually was scheduled to leave St. Louis between 9 and 10 pm, passing through Kirkwood some 20-30 minutes later}. Classic Trains, indeed!! Would that I had a time machine...........Enjoy, my friends, and have a great Sunday! See y'all Monday............ Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:44 PM Good evening Leon , I see that everyone's buying rounds today nice to see that we are going easy on Jan's tab. Heck I'll put up a round of whatever makes you happy tonight. a keith's for me Leon thank-you.Tom-Loved the re runs of your VIA pics from days gone by some real keepers theer sir I just saw a picture today of VIA 6400 the first of the rebuilds on the F40's respendant in the new look VIA paint job to match the "chunnel chuggers "and the GE locomotives [barf] prefer the old paint job but whantcanyadoAt least they are rebuilding all the F40's instead of buying more of the GE's.If I don't make it in on Monday hope you and yours have a wonderfull new year Mike-Nice to see you again buddy , loved those NYC shots you put up in honour of Shanes birthday. Great name for the donut machine as well. Hope you and yours have a great new year as well. Pete-Happy trails and happy new year we'll keep your stool warm for you. to bad to hear that your restaurant lost it's railway flavour Some great pics though.Lars-Happy landings, hope everthing settles in for "youse guys in da sunny south" Have a great new years. Don't do anything I wouldn'tthat gives you a lot of lattitudeThanks for the round bye the bye as well.Chris-Glad to make your aqauntaince again. I think you'll get along famously with our international band o brothers that are here. Some wonderfull hots and wonderfull chat from you. I look forward to seeing and reading more from you in the new year.For everyone else have a happy new year see everyone back next week Rob trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:48 PM Okay Leon another round of Keith's please. here's a few random photo's from the museum to round out the year.enjoyRob EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:06 PM Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!A sugar cured ham sandwich would be perfect this cold Saturday night. Kind of busy day with the Mrs. in Nebraska. That means I have to do everything myself. Chris – I am ready to hear your Kirkwood Hill memories any time! So you saw the X2000 at Union Station, St. Louis in 1993? I was there but I don’t think I would recognize you today. Maybe you are in this photo?Union Station, St. Louis.The tunnel was fenced off when I took that picture, just managed to get a shot through the fence. Too bad they didn’t save any MT-73’s. Some very nice pictures! You can’t take those photos today! Maybe that GP50 still has the same paint scheme today? I wonder if they still use the mother/slug set at Jeff City? Rio Grande! Nice!Mike – Nice photos from Buffalo! Buffalo Central Terminal is visible in both! Below is a photo from 1993.Buffalo Central Terminal 1993.Tom – You are right, I think Chris is bound to take over my Nocturnal title pretty soon. Yeah, I like my retirement, kind of regret I promised to work part time the next 50 weeks. Thanks for those photos from Canada! Good looking dome cars! 2005, was that the last year they used those cars to Halifax? Two very good movies at the Emporium next week! I haven’t seen any of them earlier. If I had some more time I would scan some pics from OK Corrall of the shootings! It was kind of ugly. Pete – I have a photo of UP’s #8444 I took at the World’s Fair in New Orleans 1984. Not a good one though. The photo below shows just one detail of #8444 (today #844). SKF = Bearings from the old country.Ahh, I can see the Captain holding on to that old diesel! Nice photos from Missouri and England! The Duchess of Sutherland is a good looking locomotive!Lars – Lucky you, going to the Keys and the warm weather. We have had cold weather here in the desert now for three weeks! A Happy New Year to you and Yours!!Rob – Thanks for the round! And a Happy New Year to you and yours!!Thanks for those traction photos!! What is the device attached to the front of car #23? Is it supposed to work as a people catcher without harming them? Kirkwood Station, MO. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:29 PM Good evening again leon i think another Keith's is requiredEric-I hope you are refering to the mattress type life guard and not my wife Yes it is a people catcher designed to scoop them up and deposit them in the basket as oposed to dragging them under the trucks. Some neat pictures from you tonight as well. That's an interesting trainshed that the x2000 was sitting under.Here's a few more museum shots that have been seen before,hope you enjoy them again.Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:14 AM "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs<However, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! > G'day Gents!Here's something for those of you who've enjoyed the flicks at our theatre . . . Movies shown at the Mentor Village Emporium TheatrePart I of II - 2006:. . . GRAND RE-OPENING - Monday, January 9th: DOUBLE FEATURE: Von Ryan's Express (1965) starring Frank Sinatra & Trevor Howard - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) starring Jeffrey Hunter, Fess Parker & Slim Pickens. LIVE STAGE SHOW in between features!. . . January 10th thru 14th: Silver Streak (1976) starring Gene Wilder & Richard Pryor.. . . Sunday, January 15th DOUBLE FEATURE The Iron Horse (1924) SILENT MOVIE starring George O'Brien & Fred Kohler - and - The General (1927) SILENT MOVIE starring Buster Keaton.. . . January 16th thru 21st: Disaster on the Coastliner (1979-TV) starring Lloyd Bridges, Raymond Burr & Robert Fuller.. . . Sunday, January 22nd: DOUBLE FEATURE Danger Lights (1930) starring Louis Wolheim, Robert Armstrong & Jean Arthur. - and - Runaway Train (1985) starring Jon Voight, Eric Roberts & Rebecca De Mor Nay.. . . January 23rd thru 28th: Denver and Rio Grande (1952) starring Edmond O'Brien, Sterling Hayden & Dean Jagger. . . Sunday, January 29th: DOUBLE FEATURE Narrow Margin (1990) starring Gene Hackman & Anne Archer - and - North by Northwest (1959) starring Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint & James Mason.. . . Monday, January 30th thru February 4th: Oh, Mr. Porter! (British - 1937) starring: Will Hay, Moore Marriott & Graham Moffitt - and - Shadow of a Doubt (1943) starring: Teresa Wright, Joseph Cotten & Macdonald Carey.. . . Sunday, February 5th thru 11th: The Titfield Thunderbolt (British 1953) starring: Stanley Holloway, Naunton Wayne, John Gregson & Sidney James - and - Breakheart Pass (1975) starring Charles Bronson, Ben Johnson & Richard Crenna.. . . Sunday, February 12th thru 18th: Bound for Glory (1976) starring: David Carradine, Ronny Cox & Melinda Dillon - and - Emperor of the North Pole (1973) starring: Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine & Keith Carradine.. . . Sunday, February 19th thru 25th: Fahrenheit 451 (1966) starring: Oskar Werner, Julie Christie & Cyril Cusack - and - Northwest Frontier (1959) starring: Kenneth More, Lauren Bacall & Herbert Lom.. . . Sunday, February 26th thru March 4th: Fours a Crowd (1938) starring: Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland & Rosalind Russell - and - Holiday Affair (1949) starring: Robert Mitchum, Janet Leigh & Wendell Corey.. . . Sunday, March 5th thru 11th: North to Alaska (1960) starring: John Wayne, Stewart Granger & Capucine - and - Lost in Alaska (1952) starring: Bud Abbott & Lou Costello. Short: The Three Stooges - A Pain in the Pullman (1936). (Page 264 w/Pix). . . Sunday, March 12th thru 18th: Mystery Alaska (1999) starring: Russell Crowe, Hank Azaria & Mary McCormack - and - Slap Shot (1977) starring: Paul Newman - Strother Martin & Michael Ontkean. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Beer and Pretzels (1933). . . . Sunday, March 19th thru 25th: Midnight Run (1988) starring: Robert De Niro, Charles Grodin & Yaphet Kotto - and - The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) starring: Betty Hutton, Cornel Wilde & Charlton Heston. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Hello Pop (1933). . . . Sunday, March 26th thru April 1st:Major League (1989) starring Tom Beringer, Charlie Sheen & Corbin Bernson - and - Bull Durham (1988) starring: Kevin Costner, Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Plane Nuts (1933). . . . Sunday, April 2nd thru 8th: Eight Men Out (1988) starring: Jace Alexander, John Cusack & Gordon Clapp - and - Field of Dreams (1989) Kevin Costner, Burt Lancaster & James Earl Jones. SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Big Idea (1934). . . . Sunday, April 9th thru April 15th: The Harvey Girls (1946) starring: Judy Garland, John Hodiak & Ray Bolger -and- The Train (1964) starring: Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield & Jeanne Moreau. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Woman Haters (1934). . . . Sunday, April 16th thru 22nd: The Molly Macquires (1970) starring: Sean Connery, Richard Harris & Samantha Eggers - and - It Happened to Jane (1959) starring: Doris Day, Jack Lemmon & Ernie Kovacs. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Punch Drunks (1934). . . . Sunday, April 23rd thru Apr 29th: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) starring: Paul Newman, Robert Redford & Kathy Ross -and- The Sting (1973) starring: Paul Newman, Robert Redford & Robert Shaw. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Men In Black (1934).. . . Sunday, April 30th thru May 6th: Cobb (1994) starring: Tommy Lee Jones & Robert Wuhl -and- Hoosiers (1986) starring: Gene Hackman, Barbara Hershey & Dennis Hopper. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Little Pigskins (1934). Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:06 PM "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs<However, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! > G'day Gents!Continuing on with the flicks at our theatre . . . Movies shown at the Mentor Village Emporium TheatrePart II of II - 2007:. . . Sunday, December 31st thru January 6th: Sink the Bismarck (1960) Starring: Kenneth More, Dana Wynter, Carl Möhner, Laurence Naismith and Karel Stepanek - and - The Enemy Below (1957) Starring: Robert Mitchum, Curd Jürgens, David Hedison, Theodore Bikel and Russell Collins. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Mutts to You (1938).. . . Sunday, January 7th thru 13th: The Cruel Sea (1953) Starring: Jack Hawkins, Donald Sinden, John Stratton, Denholm Elliott, John Warner - and - Away All Boats (1953) Starring: Jeff Chandler, George Nader, Lex Barker, Julie Adams, Keith Andes. SHORT: Flat Foot Stooges (1938).. . . Tuesday, January 9th GRAND RE-OPENING ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION evening ONLY: Von Ryans Express (1965) Starring: Frank Sinatra, Trevor Howard, Raffaella Carrà, Brad Dexter, Sergio Fantoni - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) Starring: Fess Parker, Jeffrey Hunter, Jeff York, John Lupton, Eddie Firestone. LIVE STA Happy Railroading! Siberianmo trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:14 PM Good evening folks , wow a unusual "two fer" from da bossman on a Sunday. Still it was good to see the insides of the ole Emporium theater ( the second best place in the mentor village ) The first must be the mud wrestling emporium seriously Tom good to see the movie lists again. We'll have to break out the coconut shells and watch the Holy grail togetherhere's a couple of Toms favourite posters slide throught thew mail slots to enjoy for the New years eve celebrations. Remember guys the drinks are on my tab for Monday night and Tuesday all day. Everyone have a safe and happy new year and remember use Vito's cousins cab service after the party <uh oh >Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Monday, December 31, 2007 8:29 AM <"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>A smile to begin the week! It's déjà vu all over again.<A Yogi-ism!>G'day Gents!HAPPY NEW YEAR to our friend Allan (Gunneral) in downunder NZ where 2008 has arrived! The final day for our Christmas decorations as the New Year will be upon us in the ‘morrow! Where does the time GO The smell of our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee always spurs the taste buds - so let's get with it! Our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts are ready for orderin' from the Menu Board ‘n of course the pastries are fully stocked in The Mentor Village Bakery case <compliments of Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink>! Comments from the Proprietor: Join us at our New Years Eve Party back in the pool room, spilling over into the Rat's Patoot Room if needed. Be on your best behavior though as Inspector Clueless of our local Constabulary along with his erstwhile sidekick, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator, will once again be on "patrol." <uh oh>Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!<closes on Fri, 04 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)Mike . . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!>REMINDER: Drinks are "on Jan Olov" ‘til the New Year! So, don't be bashful - order away! PLENTY of holiday "nog" <spiked of course!> so help yourselves! Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative) Saturday - Dec 29th:Pete (pwolfe) at 1:06 PM: Was hoping our Bar Chandler would swing by before departing for KCity ‘n the New Year - didn't disappoint! ALWAYS enjoy viewing the KCS F7A . . . we were very, very fortunate on our trips to view her all those times . . . not to mention the ENTIRE consist of the Southern Belle! Liked the other fotos too! Duchess looks great! Diesel okay - Bathams Special Strong Ale! <awwwwwwwwright> Safe trip back . . . Lars (LoveDomes) at 2:15 PM: What's to say other than the Giants gave ‘em a run for their money, eh Happy Railroading! 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Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, fill up the coffee mug wudja ‘n I'll check out the pastry case . . . My, my - you are lookin' mighty fine ‘n I'm wonderin' HOW I can manage to get you down to the Keys ‘n maintain my <discreet nature> while doing it! <uh oh>
Boris, treats for the crittAHs ‘n the small jar of PPF is for YOU!
Well, this is my next-to-last day for posting at the bar for awhile. Not quite sure when I'll get "up" once we get settled in the Keys . . . surely hope to be back before the New Year! I'll try . . . which of course is all we can ask of any of the guys who frequent this joint. Speaking of which . . .
Sorry if this disappoints anyone, but I've "seen" a couple of guys who occasionally stop by the bar. Fergie has been rathAH active on "his" forum - the model railroader one, which I think is "normal" for him. However, the guy called marthastrainyard (Per) was active yesterday ‘n today on a different forum than ours. Thought he said he'd be back here in late November??? Has he too decided to give up on us WITHOUT even a fair-thee-well??? Hope not . . .
We've been down this road B4 with guys who are now UTB's . . . gets really OLD thinking one thing ‘n then realizing another. <barf>
Good to see the possibility of getting another customer at the bar. Like the way the guy from Lemay handled his first visit with us. Now to see if he'll be back . . . to "Our" Place - MoPacBarrettTunnel - there's gotta be a "name" attached to that monikAH! In absence of one - I think what Shane dubbed him will 'work' - MoPac!! yeah, that "sounds" right. So UNLESS you tell us otherwise - YOU, Sir are MoPac to us.
Really a great looking Mountain loco ‘n the transfer caboose! Enjoyed the "story" too . . . Fine way to get going at the Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Since I'm the Manager ‘round here, let me know if there's anything I can do to help make you feel at home . . . we pride ourselves on being a small but interactive group. HARDLY the <crap> that goes on elsewhere with the HIT ‘n RUN posts, etc. Nope, we acknowledge the other guy - as you'll find out when you review the pages recommended by Da Bossman!
I see the "beat goes on" with Eric ‘n Pete still stirring the proverbial "pot." Can't get me going guyz - just ain't gonna happen! <grin>
Hey Rob! Some fine "stuff" from our southern Ontario guy . . . good idea about a New Year's blast - BUT I think Cap'n Tom hit it on the head. We're really not "flush" with people as once upon a time. Let's see - New Years Day means all those who are "work day only postAHs" will be gone - then there are those who are away from home (me - Allan in NZ - Pete) and B4 you know it - who is left???? Might be a tough road to hoe - but give it a TRY! If I'm online then, I'll surely participate! [tup
Want to wish Shane a Happy Birthday (29th of Dec) just in case I can't get "in" tomorrow!!
OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone.
Ok - time for another spate of reruns from the Larsman Mobile of Classic Trains "stuff" . . . these are "for" our new friend from Lemay, MO - MoPac! <grin>
MoPac Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment
MoPac Diesel Power
MoPac in Color, Vol 1 - The Era of the Eagles
Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history..........
LoveDomes wrote: Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!Ruth my deAH, another jolt in the coffee mug if you please! <grin> Back with a few more covAHs for MoPac ‘n the crew! The RETURN of the Larsman Mobile . . . <grin>Route of the Eagles - MoPac in the Streamlined Era
Ruth my deAH, another jolt in the coffee mug if you please! <grin> Back with a few more covAHs for MoPac ‘n the crew!
The RETURN of the Larsman Mobile . . . <grin>
Route of the Eagles - MoPac in the Streamlined Era
{Fine right now, Leon - thanks!}Lars, gonna start throwing a few curves {like my unusual way of replying, held over from the old days}, since you keep tempting me so with these fantastic covers. The cover shot for the above was taken on the inagural of the Eagle - March 10, 1940. The pics I put up a few posts ago were also taken on March 10 {of 1984}. Aside from the Eagle connection, the date has always been special for me - 3/10/1926 is the birth date of my late Father. But it gets even better, as will be seen shortly.
LoveDomes wrote: Four-Eight-Fours on the MoPac
Don't go there, Mate - easy avalanche-trigger, for me!!! Sexy steamers is another topic for another time, but here I'll say that I favor the MoP's 2101-series of Sedalia rebuilds ever-so-slighlty-ahead of their bought-new Baldwin 2201-class sisters.............
LoveDomes wrote: Cabooses of the MoPac Lines
See above; this is easily e-book territory, in terms of what I could write about 'em. {Yes, before anyone asks - the possibility has and IS being considered.........}
LoveDomes wrote: The Missouri Pacific Lines in Color
This one's the "fatal" one, Mate. For you and all the rest here who have the book, turn to page 48, and take a look at the top pic on the page. Aside fom it's amazing rarity, the photographer who took the pic in the first place {credited as "R. Ecoff," for those who don't have it} was none other than MY Great-Uncle Ralph!!!! He was a proud MoP "mud hop" {yard clerk} by calling, and was obviously ahead of his time as a photo-bug {the color pic was shot in October 1939}.
If that's not enough of a mind-blower for you, I've already introduced his son to you, with my debut post here - he's my cousin Danny!!!
Deep Kimchu warning!! Deep Kimchu warning!!
LoveDomes wrote: Note: Just a reminder that we try to keep our postings reasonable by NOT overloading the page . . . so six photos is pretty much our "norm" . . . exceptions on Saturdays! Ruth my deAH, you KNOW where I'll be . . . . <blush>Until the next time! Lars Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:44 AM {One more boiler-explosion please, Leon my good man!! Gettin' enough exercise tonight, eh?}Okay, I've monopolized enough for now, so I'll revert to customary practice around here, and consolidate my reply appropriately - you whom I'm about to mention, please don't feel I've slighted you by not keeping the 1-on-1 direct approach going for the rest of my session tonight. We'll get to that once we're all better acquainted, and I'm comfortable driving the PM's here.Pete/pwolfe - glad to be here, and glad you liked my debut - I think there just might be a bit more from where it came from, originally.........Rob/trolleyboy - thank you too, and yes indeed there will be a LOT more coming. Might be wise to bump the old bar-tab credit limit here UP a notch or three............... BTW - you do good work here too, from what I've seen so far in the Archives.And now, my final dazzle for the evenig/morning - the rest of the story I came with here tonight {what the hell - one more boiler-explosion please, Leon? A double, if you would?}:There was a VERY good reason for me to be out and about with my brother on March 10, 1984, despite the weather conditions - I just COULDN'T miss the sight of a working 4-8-4, charging Kirkwood Hill once again now, could I? Well, obviously I didn't!! Seeing the then-#8444 on my old stomping grounds {and on my Dad's b-day, no less} was a real one-of-a-kind "life experience" I'll NEVER forget, and will forever be truly grateful for. Crappy photo-quality aside, for me it doesn't get any better than this, my New Fine Friends!!!!'Nite, All!!!! GREAT time, tonight!!More shortly........................{Happily whistling, having already left my generous tip as is my usual custom........... 'Nite Leon, 'Nite Boris. Be careful getting home, once you're done here, OK?} Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:44 AM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the houseName that machine contest: Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) Welcome Mopac Chris, it is all good around here. It can't be CM3's again already. Time to shuffle off to BuffaloMike siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:41 AM <"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day! Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents! Happy Birthday to our long-time customer - CM3 Shane (coalminer3)! It's the final Saturday of 2007 - can you believe it Time to order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board - check out the pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n fill up your coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘b brewed special blend! Comments from the Proprietor: REMINDER: Drinks are "on Jan Olov" ‘til the New Year! So, don't be bashful - order away! PLENTY of holiday "nog" <spiked of course!> so help yourselves! Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!<closes on Fri, 07 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)Mike . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!> Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative) Friday - Dec 28th:CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:40 AM: Mate!You really provided a wealth of fine info with that transcontinental passenger car sleeper service . . . In fact, I believe you may have uncovered <finally> some answers to questions I've had in my aging mind for decades ‘n decades. Asked about it here - several times, with nary a response. Anyway, had to do with a train trip I took from Los Angeles to New York City via Chicago all by train back in 1947 or 48. I'm sure you recall some of the details . . . my father put me aboard a Santa Fe train in LA - alone - ‘n I was treated to one great experience all the way to NYCity . . . I recall a bedroom compartment (roomette I believe) - at least one dome car - a lounge observation at the end ‘n of course a dining car. I was 9 or 10 at the time - so that was a long, long time ago . . . One thing though is that I didn't have the same bedroom all the way . . . that much I do recall.There was a change of trains in Chicago - I do remember leaving one train and being taken to the other by train staff. Pretty hazy otherwise . . . the train home was the PRR, fer sure, fer sure.Just never knew the names of either train (LA to Chicago or Chicago to NYCity). Guessed that it was "one of the Chiefs" ‘n the Broadway Ltd - but really never knew for sure. Your account kinda gives me some insight to make me believe that I was correct. In spite of the difference in years - I think your data is close enough to shed the light where needed . . . Another visit with NO quarters! Hmmmmmmmm. BUT, any visit from our Resident WVA Connection is a PLUS for "Our" Place! Enjoy YOUR day, Mate! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:27 PM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day! Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.G'day Gents!Hmmmmm, guess I overspoke when mentioning it was gonna be a "good day." Appears as if everyone is elsewhere . . . Cindy, go ahead 'n secure for the day . . . Boris 'n I will take care of things. <grin> Yes Boris - feed the critters 'n the PPF is for you. Okay - so it's a day set aside for ENCORE! presentations 'n fotos too. Here are some from my archives that have been presented before . . . enjoy! Montreal's Central Station train board The "Ocean" at Halifax, NSEvangeline Park car at Halifax, Nova ScotiaChateau Brule sleeping car at Halifax, Nova ScotiaTrain #33 at Ottawa, OntarioVIA Rail Station, Ottawa, Ontario Later! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:06 PM Hi Tom and all.A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDYFERGIE Good to see you in the bar. It will be good to see photos of your latest model car additions to the MESS. ROB Many thanks for the Classic Steam on the St Clair Branch Encore. An interesting read of a line that so nearly became a main through route if the bridge had been built.Thanks for the wishes on the first.CHRIS and great to have you aboard. Thanks for the info about you. I am fairly new to the US having come over from England so I am still learning about North American railroads and their locomotives. It will be really good to read about the line that runs through here.At Jeff city by two pillars of the original brige across the Missouri they have created a small park with benches and a view of the railroad and the river. They have a boardthat shows a photo of thr roundhouse that was once there.Many thanks for the photos In a local diner here the walls were covered with railroad photos and adverts including an old Mo Pac calendar. One of the photos was large framed one of #8444 which must have been taken the same day as yours of the loco coming into Jefferson City with the Worlds Fair Special sign on it. Sadly the diner has recently had some refurbishment and the railroad theme as been replaced by a cowboy one.Perhaps you can help, on a recent Amtrak trip to Kirkwood I noticed, where the line runs alongside the Missouri it looks in places as though there is a trackbed running parallel to the tracks with remnants of bridges and it looks like a short tunnel. I wonder if the trackbed was moved at some time, it is only possible to see this in winter time when the trees have lost their leafsERIC I agree, as if us two would ever stir up anything with regards to Manager Lars and you know whom.Yes 1892 was the last year of the broad gauge on the Great Western The Didcot Railway Centre has an original goods shed that had openings for the broad gauge and standard gauge tracks and are building a Broad Gauge line in the museum.The KCS dome car is part of their vintage train I believe. The photo was taken on the day Tom and I went over to KC on Amtrak when the schedule allowed us a 4-hour stay. I believe the train was there as the KCS was showing new locomotives they had painted in a similar scheme to the old KCS vintage diesel.Many thanks for the photos. CM3.LARS Hope you have a safe trip and enjoyable time at the Keys. MIKE Great to see you in. What a great night photo of the steam locomotive.Very good name for the DoNut machine.TOM It is great that CM3 has provided you with the answer to the question you have long waited the answer for. The mine of information we have at Our Place really is amazing.A couple of photosUP diesel at Hermann MOAn LMS No 6233 Duchess of Sutherland at Carlisle, England A Virgin class 57 at Rugby.A toast to you all We are off to KC for a couple of days, hopefully I shall be able to call in at the Bar, but just in case I cannot.MAY I WISH ALL THE REGULARS AND THEIRS A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR AND A HAPPY ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY TO THE ‘NEW' OUR PLACE.Pete LoveDomes Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: northeast U.S. 1,225 posts Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:15 PM Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!Hey Bossman is behind the bar! Just like old times . . . I'll take a double belt of JD on the rocks if you please 'n slide the snack tray down my way wudja Boris, I see the crittAHs have been fed - good man. Keep doing that while I'm gone 'n try to be more of a help than a hindrance to our Proprietor, ok Ring the bell, Boris - these drinks are on me - last in 2007! CHEERS ALL! All preparations are complete 'n we're ready for departure in the morning . . . just hope we have a smooth ride. The Mrs. gets very disturbed when things turn to "bumpy." <uh oh>Thoughts in no particular ordAH - but thoughts nonetheless:For Shane! Nice work with the sleeper info . . . could read that kinda stuff forevAH! Really enjoyed it. Have a 'n many, many MORE, mate! 5- to you on this 'n every day in 2008! For Mike! I like that submission of yours for the Do-Nut MoSheen naming! Like Da Bossman said, very creative. Happy New Year to you!. Of course the New York Central "stuff" didn't "hurt" either! <grin> For Pete! Many thanks for a fine email surprise. NevAH say nevAH - maybe one day I'll just show up in your part of the country 'n then the three of us can partake in all of the good things at the Train Wreck saloon! Best to you in 2008! For Rob! Very glad you've decided to return to "Our" Place. It never was quite the same without you 'n it's very pleasing to know that your still with us. Happy 2008 to you! For Eric! Yeah sure, you 'n Pete would nevAH try to derail anything I have "going" with Ru . . . my friend! <grin> Wishing you a speedy 'n complete recovery from your upcoming surgery! Best to you in 2008. For Fergie! I doubt that you'll even see this - but on the chance that you do - A Happy New Year to our Canadian sailorman friend! For Jan! Don't know what this joint would be without your generosity 'n sense of humor. Appreciate having you around - too bad about those Swedish babes! <grin> Happy 2008 to you! For Dan! Hope you'll be able to resume a more regulAH schedule of appearances at the bar. The guys always look foward to your fine submissions from the UK rail scene <pubs too!> Happiest of 2008 to you, mate! For Sven - Allan & Ron! Appreciate the participation you've provided 'n I know the guys are looking forward to MORE in 2008. Best to you for a Happy New Year! For BK! Not a day passes at the bar without a thought of my "bookend." Best to you wherever you may travel 'n know that you'll always be part of this cyber bar 'n grill! Happy 2008, mate! MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:13 PM Afternoon, Gents!I'll have A French-Dip, fries, and a Michelob Amber Bock please, Tom. Hope Boris didn't scratch his poor head too hard, trying to figure out just what I was doing last night. Had great fun with the last one, and I'm up to speed with all the R&R {Rules and Regs} now, so we should be good to go. I've updated my forum profile - I've linked my MySpace page as both my homepage and blog in my profile here, so that all who want to find out a bit more about me can do so. Note - you won't find much mention of RR's on my homepage; for some reason, I have yet to put any train material up there. Most of my online-rail acvtivity has been at the forums here the last year or so anyway - my posts pretty much speak for themselves. I'll get the e-mail details to you as soon as I'm done with this post, Neighbor, and yes, I can get quite carried away when I'm excited about "juicy" subject matter..........Mike / wanswheel - Great to meet you, too! Love your contest entry; a man after my own heart. {Any Krispy Kremes left over from this morning, Tom?}Pete / pwolfe - thanks for the warm welcome, and it's great to meet anouther "transplant" so early on. I've done a bit of overseas "train-spotting" myself {yes, and took pictures}, so I'm just as fascinated with the trains across the pond, as you are with American trains. I'll do all I can to help broaden your knowledge ; a good place to start is in trying to answer the questions you asked about the MoP in Jeff City. The remnants you mentioned seeing in various places when the river's low are likely either traces of the origial right-of-way {the Sedalia Sub was single track until around 1924/5}, or are much more recent remains of flood damage {Jeff City has been hit hard in recent years, with the most famous one being the Great Flood of 1993}. I'm leaning towards the latter, although the MoP {and now UP} have done minor re-alignments in that area over the years. As for your pics my Friend, I'm in love with that gorgeous Dutchess - she definitely belongs on my "sexy steamer" list!!!That's about it for this one; I'll be back a bit later on wth some pics I took on a visit to Kirkwood Station in 1985 - until then, please feel free to peruse my forum postings here, All; they'll serve as my "encore" contributions for today.See you shortly - have a great weekend, All! Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:50 PM ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!at "Our" Place!We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs<But if you MUST 'say' something, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! >Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . December 30th to January 5th, 2008: Narrow Margin (1990) Starring: Gene Hackman, Anne Archer, James Sikking, J.T. Walsh & M. Emmet Walsh - and - Hour of the Gun (1967) Starring: James Garner, Jason Robards, Robert Ryan, Albert Salmi & Charles Aidman. SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Yoke's On Me (1944).<Note: Narrow Margin was shown at the Emporium for one day only on Jan 29th, 2006> Narrow Margin (1990)PLOT SUMMARY: A woman secretly witnesses the murder of her blind date for the evening by a top Mafia boss. She immediately goes into hiding without informing the authorities. When they finally catch up with her, she is unwilling to testify to what she has seen, but the Mafia are on her trail. Accompanied by a deputy district attorney, the woman boards a train traveling through a remote part of Canada. The Mafia know him but they have never seen her. <from: amazon.com> <This film is filled with many, many moving train shots of VIA Rail's "Canadian" on the CP main line to Vancouver! > Hour of the Gun (1967)PLOT SUMMARY: Guns don't stay in their holsters long when vigilantes Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday meet outlaws in the Wild West. James Garner (Maverick) and OscarÂ(r) winner* Jason Robards (All the President's Men) saddle up as the legendary gunslingers in this riveting, fact-based story that is "the closest filmmakers have ever come to the truth of the OK Corral gunfight" (LA Herald-Examiner). With the dust barely settling at the OK Corral, the notorious Clanton brothers unleash their revenge. One by one, they gun down Wyatt Earp's brothersbut they won't have the last shot. Using his US Marshal's badge as his authority, and Doc Holliday (Robards) as his deputizedright-hand man, Earp begins a zealous pursuit of vengeance that the west will never forget. <from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Yoke's On Me (1944)PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges failed their military entrance exams and decide to help the country by becoming farmers. Word is received that three men have escaped from a Relocation camp. The escapees later hide on the Stooges' farm. With the help of an explosive ostrich egg, the escapees are defeated. <from: threestooges.net> Enjoy the weekend! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:10 PM Evening, Everybody! Tom, might I trouble you for the fried Mozzarella / Ravioli combo-basket, {with the ranch dipping sauce} and another Michelob Amber Bock please? I see Boris is sporting a nifty 'Nog "mustache;" but I won't go any further than a quiet chuckle. Good - you've got The Game on; what I'd like to know is why I've heard so little mention of the '72 Dolphins? If anyone here can help with this question, please feel free.As promised, I'll wind up my first {and very pleasant} weekend here with some appropriate goodies {since this place is closed on Sunday, it'll give me plenty of time to get all the way through the pages here - I'll be fully "in the loop" come Monday}.One of the things I love most about railfanning are the happy coincidences that I've frequently had happen to me. My vignette with UP #844{4} is one such instance; and a wonderful afternoon spent at Kirkwood Station in June 1985 yielded the following pleasant surprises:This is the first of an eventual six trains I saw during my 2-hour visit. The "Armour Hammer" had already begun to drop, as denoted by the fresh paint on the lead GP50. Even though I was already mourning the eventual loss of the Jenks'-blue, I actally grew to like the interim image on the 3510, preferring the squared-off "North Little Rock-style" lettering over the UP's standard font. In best MoP fashion, bringing up the rear of the consist is a mother/slug set, on it's way back to Jeff City, after some repairs at the Choteau shops downtown. Also in best MoP fashion, the lead GP50 was isolated, while the slug set was online and working; just as in the steam days, the MoP always worked new repairs {or builds} immediately, to make sure all was in order, a practice that obviosly survived into the post-merger era. {Note the missing screens on the spark bonnets on the MP-15; this isn't sloppy shop practice; rather it was a sign that the unit had just been equipped with internal {in-stack} arrestors.}The final two pics for tonight are real gems:These pics are wonderful because of what they foretold; in 1985, the short-lived SPSF "marriage" was still being planned, and the Rio Grande was just SP's closest interchange partner. The train in question is actually a Cotton Belt trackage-rights manifest, one of six in each direction that ran daily {including the famous Blue Streak Merchandiser} at that time. This agreement was a condition of the 1982 UP-WP-MP merger, of course. I really didn't expect to see a caboose bringing up the rear {the rest of the MoP runs I saw including the one leading off here all had FRED's}, let alone the pretty little hack that rolled by me!!I caught the soon-to-be-gone eastbound Amtrak River Cities and three more westbounds before calling it a day; the only thing I missed that would have made this day truly perfect was a shot of the newly-inaugurated appearance of the daily MKT trackage-rights manifest {in those days, it usually was scheduled to leave St. Louis between 9 and 10 pm, passing through Kirkwood some 20-30 minutes later}. Classic Trains, indeed!! Would that I had a time machine...........Enjoy, my friends, and have a great Sunday! See y'all Monday............ Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:44 PM Good evening Leon , I see that everyone's buying rounds today nice to see that we are going easy on Jan's tab. Heck I'll put up a round of whatever makes you happy tonight. a keith's for me Leon thank-you.Tom-Loved the re runs of your VIA pics from days gone by some real keepers theer sir I just saw a picture today of VIA 6400 the first of the rebuilds on the F40's respendant in the new look VIA paint job to match the "chunnel chuggers "and the GE locomotives [barf] prefer the old paint job but whantcanyadoAt least they are rebuilding all the F40's instead of buying more of the GE's.If I don't make it in on Monday hope you and yours have a wonderfull new year Mike-Nice to see you again buddy , loved those NYC shots you put up in honour of Shanes birthday. Great name for the donut machine as well. Hope you and yours have a great new year as well. Pete-Happy trails and happy new year we'll keep your stool warm for you. to bad to hear that your restaurant lost it's railway flavour Some great pics though.Lars-Happy landings, hope everthing settles in for "youse guys in da sunny south" Have a great new years. Don't do anything I wouldn'tthat gives you a lot of lattitudeThanks for the round bye the bye as well.Chris-Glad to make your aqauntaince again. I think you'll get along famously with our international band o brothers that are here. Some wonderfull hots and wonderfull chat from you. I look forward to seeing and reading more from you in the new year.For everyone else have a happy new year see everyone back next week Rob trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:48 PM Okay Leon another round of Keith's please. here's a few random photo's from the museum to round out the year.enjoyRob EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:06 PM Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!A sugar cured ham sandwich would be perfect this cold Saturday night. Kind of busy day with the Mrs. in Nebraska. That means I have to do everything myself. Chris – I am ready to hear your Kirkwood Hill memories any time! So you saw the X2000 at Union Station, St. Louis in 1993? I was there but I don’t think I would recognize you today. Maybe you are in this photo?Union Station, St. Louis.The tunnel was fenced off when I took that picture, just managed to get a shot through the fence. Too bad they didn’t save any MT-73’s. Some very nice pictures! You can’t take those photos today! Maybe that GP50 still has the same paint scheme today? I wonder if they still use the mother/slug set at Jeff City? Rio Grande! Nice!Mike – Nice photos from Buffalo! Buffalo Central Terminal is visible in both! Below is a photo from 1993.Buffalo Central Terminal 1993.Tom – You are right, I think Chris is bound to take over my Nocturnal title pretty soon. Yeah, I like my retirement, kind of regret I promised to work part time the next 50 weeks. Thanks for those photos from Canada! Good looking dome cars! 2005, was that the last year they used those cars to Halifax? Two very good movies at the Emporium next week! I haven’t seen any of them earlier. If I had some more time I would scan some pics from OK Corrall of the shootings! It was kind of ugly. Pete – I have a photo of UP’s #8444 I took at the World’s Fair in New Orleans 1984. Not a good one though. The photo below shows just one detail of #8444 (today #844). SKF = Bearings from the old country.Ahh, I can see the Captain holding on to that old diesel! Nice photos from Missouri and England! The Duchess of Sutherland is a good looking locomotive!Lars – Lucky you, going to the Keys and the warm weather. We have had cold weather here in the desert now for three weeks! A Happy New Year to you and Yours!!Rob – Thanks for the round! And a Happy New Year to you and yours!!Thanks for those traction photos!! What is the device attached to the front of car #23? Is it supposed to work as a people catcher without harming them? Kirkwood Station, MO. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:29 PM Good evening again leon i think another Keith's is requiredEric-I hope you are refering to the mattress type life guard and not my wife Yes it is a people catcher designed to scoop them up and deposit them in the basket as oposed to dragging them under the trucks. Some neat pictures from you tonight as well. That's an interesting trainshed that the x2000 was sitting under.Here's a few more museum shots that have been seen before,hope you enjoy them again.Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:14 AM "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs<However, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! > G'day Gents!Here's something for those of you who've enjoyed the flicks at our theatre . . . Movies shown at the Mentor Village Emporium TheatrePart I of II - 2006:. . . GRAND RE-OPENING - Monday, January 9th: DOUBLE FEATURE: Von Ryan's Express (1965) starring Frank Sinatra & Trevor Howard - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) starring Jeffrey Hunter, Fess Parker & Slim Pickens. LIVE STAGE SHOW in between features!. . . January 10th thru 14th: Silver Streak (1976) starring Gene Wilder & Richard Pryor.. . . Sunday, January 15th DOUBLE FEATURE The Iron Horse (1924) SILENT MOVIE starring George O'Brien & Fred Kohler - and - The General (1927) SILENT MOVIE starring Buster Keaton.. . . January 16th thru 21st: Disaster on the Coastliner (1979-TV) starring Lloyd Bridges, Raymond Burr & Robert Fuller.. . . Sunday, January 22nd: DOUBLE FEATURE Danger Lights (1930) starring Louis Wolheim, Robert Armstrong & Jean Arthur. - and - Runaway Train (1985) starring Jon Voight, Eric Roberts & Rebecca De Mor Nay.. . . January 23rd thru 28th: Denver and Rio Grande (1952) starring Edmond O'Brien, Sterling Hayden & Dean Jagger. . . Sunday, January 29th: DOUBLE FEATURE Narrow Margin (1990) starring Gene Hackman & Anne Archer - and - North by Northwest (1959) starring Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint & James Mason.. . . Monday, January 30th thru February 4th: Oh, Mr. Porter! (British - 1937) starring: Will Hay, Moore Marriott & Graham Moffitt - and - Shadow of a Doubt (1943) starring: Teresa Wright, Joseph Cotten & Macdonald Carey.. . . Sunday, February 5th thru 11th: The Titfield Thunderbolt (British 1953) starring: Stanley Holloway, Naunton Wayne, John Gregson & Sidney James - and - Breakheart Pass (1975) starring Charles Bronson, Ben Johnson & Richard Crenna.. . . Sunday, February 12th thru 18th: Bound for Glory (1976) starring: David Carradine, Ronny Cox & Melinda Dillon - and - Emperor of the North Pole (1973) starring: Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine & Keith Carradine.. . . Sunday, February 19th thru 25th: Fahrenheit 451 (1966) starring: Oskar Werner, Julie Christie & Cyril Cusack - and - Northwest Frontier (1959) starring: Kenneth More, Lauren Bacall & Herbert Lom.. . . Sunday, February 26th thru March 4th: Fours a Crowd (1938) starring: Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland & Rosalind Russell - and - Holiday Affair (1949) starring: Robert Mitchum, Janet Leigh & Wendell Corey.. . . Sunday, March 5th thru 11th: North to Alaska (1960) starring: John Wayne, Stewart Granger & Capucine - and - Lost in Alaska (1952) starring: Bud Abbott & Lou Costello. Short: The Three Stooges - A Pain in the Pullman (1936). (Page 264 w/Pix). . . Sunday, March 12th thru 18th: Mystery Alaska (1999) starring: Russell Crowe, Hank Azaria & Mary McCormack - and - Slap Shot (1977) starring: Paul Newman - Strother Martin & Michael Ontkean. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Beer and Pretzels (1933). . . . Sunday, March 19th thru 25th: Midnight Run (1988) starring: Robert De Niro, Charles Grodin & Yaphet Kotto - and - The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) starring: Betty Hutton, Cornel Wilde & Charlton Heston. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Hello Pop (1933). . . . Sunday, March 26th thru April 1st:Major League (1989) starring Tom Beringer, Charlie Sheen & Corbin Bernson - and - Bull Durham (1988) starring: Kevin Costner, Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Plane Nuts (1933). . . . Sunday, April 2nd thru 8th: Eight Men Out (1988) starring: Jace Alexander, John Cusack & Gordon Clapp - and - Field of Dreams (1989) Kevin Costner, Burt Lancaster & James Earl Jones. SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Big Idea (1934). . . . Sunday, April 9th thru April 15th: The Harvey Girls (1946) starring: Judy Garland, John Hodiak & Ray Bolger -and- The Train (1964) starring: Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield & Jeanne Moreau. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Woman Haters (1934). . . . Sunday, April 16th thru 22nd: The Molly Macquires (1970) starring: Sean Connery, Richard Harris & Samantha Eggers - and - It Happened to Jane (1959) starring: Doris Day, Jack Lemmon & Ernie Kovacs. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Punch Drunks (1934). . . . Sunday, April 23rd thru Apr 29th: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) starring: Paul Newman, Robert Redford & Kathy Ross -and- The Sting (1973) starring: Paul Newman, Robert Redford & Robert Shaw. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Men In Black (1934).. . . Sunday, April 30th thru May 6th: Cobb (1994) starring: Tommy Lee Jones & Robert Wuhl -and- Hoosiers (1986) starring: Gene Hackman, Barbara Hershey & Dennis Hopper. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Little Pigskins (1934). Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:06 PM "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs<However, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! > G'day Gents!Continuing on with the flicks at our theatre . . . Movies shown at the Mentor Village Emporium TheatrePart II of II - 2007:. . . Sunday, December 31st thru January 6th: Sink the Bismarck (1960) Starring: Kenneth More, Dana Wynter, Carl Möhner, Laurence Naismith and Karel Stepanek - and - The Enemy Below (1957) Starring: Robert Mitchum, Curd Jürgens, David Hedison, Theodore Bikel and Russell Collins. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Mutts to You (1938).. . . Sunday, January 7th thru 13th: The Cruel Sea (1953) Starring: Jack Hawkins, Donald Sinden, John Stratton, Denholm Elliott, John Warner - and - Away All Boats (1953) Starring: Jeff Chandler, George Nader, Lex Barker, Julie Adams, Keith Andes. SHORT: Flat Foot Stooges (1938).. . . Tuesday, January 9th GRAND RE-OPENING ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION evening ONLY: Von Ryans Express (1965) Starring: Frank Sinatra, Trevor Howard, Raffaella Carrà, Brad Dexter, Sergio Fantoni - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) Starring: Fess Parker, Jeffrey Hunter, Jeff York, John Lupton, Eddie Firestone. LIVE STA Happy Railroading! Siberianmo trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:14 PM Good evening folks , wow a unusual "two fer" from da bossman on a Sunday. Still it was good to see the insides of the ole Emporium theater ( the second best place in the mentor village ) The first must be the mud wrestling emporium seriously Tom good to see the movie lists again. We'll have to break out the coconut shells and watch the Holy grail togetherhere's a couple of Toms favourite posters slide throught thew mail slots to enjoy for the New years eve celebrations. Remember guys the drinks are on my tab for Monday night and Tuesday all day. Everyone have a safe and happy new year and remember use Vito's cousins cab service after the party <uh oh >Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Monday, December 31, 2007 8:29 AM <"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>A smile to begin the week! It's déjà vu all over again.<A Yogi-ism!>G'day Gents!HAPPY NEW YEAR to our friend Allan (Gunneral) in downunder NZ where 2008 has arrived! The final day for our Christmas decorations as the New Year will be upon us in the ‘morrow! Where does the time GO The smell of our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee always spurs the taste buds - so let's get with it! Our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts are ready for orderin' from the Menu Board ‘n of course the pastries are fully stocked in The Mentor Village Bakery case <compliments of Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink>! Comments from the Proprietor: Join us at our New Years Eve Party back in the pool room, spilling over into the Rat's Patoot Room if needed. Be on your best behavior though as Inspector Clueless of our local Constabulary along with his erstwhile sidekick, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator, will once again be on "patrol." <uh oh>Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!<closes on Fri, 04 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)Mike . . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!>REMINDER: Drinks are "on Jan Olov" ‘til the New Year! So, don't be bashful - order away! PLENTY of holiday "nog" <spiked of course!> so help yourselves! Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative) Saturday - Dec 29th:Pete (pwolfe) at 1:06 PM: Was hoping our Bar Chandler would swing by before departing for KCity ‘n the New Year - didn't disappoint! ALWAYS enjoy viewing the KCS F7A . . . we were very, very fortunate on our trips to view her all those times . . . not to mention the ENTIRE consist of the Southern Belle! Liked the other fotos too! Duchess looks great! Diesel okay - Bathams Special Strong Ale! <awwwwwwwwright> Safe trip back . . . Lars (LoveDomes) at 2:15 PM: What's to say other than the Giants gave ‘em a run for their money, eh Happy Railroading! 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Ruth my deAH, you KNOW where I'll be . . . . <blush>
Until the next time!
Lars Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history..........
{One more boiler-explosion please, Leon my good man!! Gettin' enough exercise tonight, eh?}Okay, I've monopolized enough for now, so I'll revert to customary practice around here, and consolidate my reply appropriately - you whom I'm about to mention, please don't feel I've slighted you by not keeping the 1-on-1 direct approach going for the rest of my session tonight. We'll get to that once we're all better acquainted, and I'm comfortable driving the PM's here.
Pete/pwolfe - glad to be here, and glad you liked my debut - I think there just might be a bit more from where it came from, originally.........
Rob/trolleyboy - thank you too, and yes indeed there will be a LOT more coming. Might be wise to bump the old bar-tab credit limit here UP a notch or three............... BTW - you do good work here too, from what I've seen so far in the Archives.
And now, my final dazzle for the evenig/morning - the rest of the story I came with here tonight {what the hell - one more boiler-explosion please, Leon? A double, if you would?}:There was a VERY good reason for me to be out and about with my brother on March 10, 1984, despite the weather conditions - I just COULDN'T miss the sight of a working 4-8-4, charging Kirkwood Hill once again now, could I?
Well, obviously I didn't!! Seeing the then-#8444 on my old stomping grounds {and on my Dad's b-day, no less} was a real one-of-a-kind "life experience" I'll NEVER forget, and will forever be truly grateful for. Crappy photo-quality aside, for me it doesn't get any better than this, my New Fine Friends!!!!
'Nite, All!!!! GREAT time, tonight!!More shortly........................{Happily whistling, having already left my generous tip as is my usual custom........... 'Nite Leon, 'Nite Boris. Be careful getting home, once you're done here, OK?}
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Name that machine contest: Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts)
Welcome Mopac Chris, it is all good around here.
It can't be CM3's again already. Time to shuffle off to Buffalo
Mike
<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Happy Birthday to our long-time customer - CM3 Shane (coalminer3)!
Comments from the Proprietor:
REMINDER: Drinks are "on Jan Olov" ‘til the New Year! So, don't be bashful - order away! PLENTY of holiday "nog" <spiked of course!> so help yourselves!
Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!
<closes on Fri, 07 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>
Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)
Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)
Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)
Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)
Mike . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Friday - Dec 28th:
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:40 AM: Mate!
You really provided a wealth of fine info with that transcontinental passenger car sleeper service . . . In fact, I believe you may have uncovered <finally> some answers to questions I've had in my aging mind for decades ‘n decades.
Asked about it here - several times, with nary a response. Anyway, had to do with a train trip I took from Los Angeles to New York City via Chicago all by train back in 1947 or 48. I'm sure you recall some of the details . . . my father put me aboard a Santa Fe train in LA - alone - ‘n I was treated to one great experience all the way to NYCity . . .
I recall a bedroom compartment (roomette I believe) - at least one dome car - a lounge observation at the end ‘n of course a dining car. I was 9 or 10 at the time - so that was a long, long time ago . . . One thing though is that I didn't have the same bedroom all the way . . . that much I do recall.
There was a change of trains in Chicago - I do remember leaving one train and being taken to the other by train staff. Pretty hazy otherwise . . . the train home was the PRR, fer sure, fer sure.
Just never knew the names of either train (LA to Chicago or Chicago to NYCity). Guessed that it was "one of the Chiefs" ‘n the Broadway Ltd - but really never knew for sure. Your account kinda gives me some insight to make me believe that I was correct. In spite of the difference in years - I think your data is close enough to shed the light where needed . . .
Hmmmmm, guess I overspoke when mentioning it was gonna be a "good day." Appears as if everyone is elsewhere . . . Cindy, go ahead 'n secure for the day . . . Boris 'n I will take care of things. <grin> Yes Boris - feed the critters 'n the PPF is for you.
Okay - so it's a day set aside for ENCORE! presentations 'n fotos too. Here are some from my archives that have been presented before . . . enjoy!
Montreal's Central Station train board
The "Ocean" at Halifax, NS
Evangeline Park car at Halifax, Nova Scotia
Chateau Brule sleeping car at Halifax, Nova Scotia
Train #33 at Ottawa, Ontario
VIA Rail Station, Ottawa, Ontario
Later!
Tom
A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY
FERGIE Good to see you in the bar. It will be good to see photos of your latest model car additions to the MESS.
ROB Many thanks for the Classic Steam on the St Clair Branch Encore. An interesting read of a line that so nearly became a main through route if the bridge had been built.
Thanks for the wishes on the first.
CHRIS and great to have you aboard. Thanks for the info about you. I am fairly new to the US having come over from England so I am still learning about North American railroads and their locomotives. It will be really good to read about the line that runs through here.
At Jeff city by two pillars of the original brige across the Missouri they have created a small park with benches and a view of the railroad and the river. They have a boardthat shows a photo of thr roundhouse that was once there.
Many thanks for the photos In a local diner here the walls were covered with railroad photos and adverts including an old Mo Pac calendar. One of the photos was large framed one of #8444 which must have been taken the same day as yours of the loco coming into Jefferson City with the Worlds Fair Special sign on it. Sadly the diner has recently had some refurbishment and the railroad theme as been replaced by a cowboy one.
Perhaps you can help, on a recent Amtrak trip to Kirkwood I noticed, where the line runs alongside the Missouri it looks in places as though there is a trackbed running parallel to the tracks with remnants of bridges and it looks like a short tunnel. I wonder if the trackbed was moved at some time, it is only possible to see this in winter time when the trees have lost their leafs
ERIC I agree, as if us two would ever stir up anything with regards to Manager Lars and you know whom.
Yes 1892 was the last year of the broad gauge on the Great Western The Didcot Railway Centre has an original goods shed that had openings for the broad gauge and standard gauge tracks and are building a Broad Gauge line in the museum.
The KCS dome car is part of their vintage train I believe. The photo was taken on the day Tom and I went over to KC on Amtrak when the schedule allowed us a 4-hour stay. I believe the train was there as the KCS was showing new locomotives they had painted in a similar scheme to the old KCS vintage diesel.
CM3.
LARS Hope you have a safe trip and enjoyable time at the Keys.
MIKE Great to see you in. What a great night photo of the steam locomotive.
Very good name for the DoNut machine.
TOM It is great that CM3 has provided you with the answer to the question you have long waited the answer for. The mine of information we have at Our Place really is amazing.
A couple of photos
UP diesel at Hermann MO
An LMS No 6233 Duchess of Sutherland at Carlisle, England
A Virgin class 57 at Rugby.
A toast to you all
We are off to KC for a couple of days, hopefully I shall be able to call in at the Bar, but just in case I cannot.
MAY I WISH ALL THE REGULARS AND THEIRS A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR AND A HAPPY ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY TO THE ‘NEW' OUR PLACE.
Pete
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Hey Bossman is behind the bar! Just like old times . . . I'll take a double belt of JD on the rocks if you please 'n slide the snack tray down my way wudja
Boris, I see the crittAHs have been fed - good man. Keep doing that while I'm gone 'n try to be more of a help than a hindrance to our Proprietor, ok
Ring the bell, Boris - these drinks are on me - last in 2007! CHEERS ALL!
All preparations are complete 'n we're ready for departure in the morning . . . just hope we have a smooth ride. The Mrs. gets very disturbed when things turn to "bumpy." <uh oh>
Thoughts in no particular ordAH - but thoughts nonetheless:
For Shane! Nice work with the sleeper info . . . could read that kinda stuff forevAH! Really enjoyed it. Have a 'n many, many MORE, mate! 5- to you on this 'n every day in 2008!
For BK! Not a day passes at the bar without a thought of my "bookend." Best to you wherever you may travel 'n know that you'll always be part of this cyber bar 'n grill! Happy 2008, mate!
Afternoon, Gents!I'll have A French-Dip, fries, and a Michelob Amber Bock please, Tom. Hope Boris didn't scratch his poor head too hard, trying to figure out just what I was doing last night. Had great fun with the last one, and I'm up to speed with all the R&R {Rules and Regs} now, so we should be good to go. I've updated my forum profile - I've linked my MySpace page as both my homepage and blog in my profile here, so that all who want to find out a bit more about me can do so. Note - you won't find much mention of RR's on my homepage; for some reason, I have yet to put any train material up there. Most of my online-rail acvtivity has been at the forums here the last year or so anyway - my posts pretty much speak for themselves. I'll get the e-mail details to you as soon as I'm done with this post, Neighbor, and yes, I can get quite carried away when I'm excited about "juicy" subject matter..........
Mike / wanswheel - Great to meet you, too! Love your contest entry; a man after my own heart. {Any Krispy Kremes left over from this morning, Tom?}Pete / pwolfe - thanks for the warm welcome, and it's great to meet anouther "transplant" so early on. I've done a bit of overseas "train-spotting" myself {yes, and took pictures}, so I'm just as fascinated with the trains across the pond, as you are with American trains. I'll do all I can to help broaden your knowledge ; a good place to start is in trying to answer the questions you asked about the MoP in Jeff City. The remnants you mentioned seeing in various places when the river's low are likely either traces of the origial right-of-way {the Sedalia Sub was single track until around 1924/5}, or are much more recent remains of flood damage {Jeff City has been hit hard in recent years, with the most famous one being the Great Flood of 1993}. I'm leaning towards the latter, although the MoP {and now UP} have done minor re-alignments in that area over the years. As for your pics my Friend, I'm in love with that gorgeous Dutchess - she definitely belongs on my "sexy steamer" list!!!That's about it for this one; I'll be back a bit later on wth some pics I took on a visit to Kirkwood Station in 1985 - until then, please feel free to peruse my forum postings here, All; they'll serve as my "encore" contributions for today.See you shortly - have a great weekend, All!
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<But if you MUST 'say' something, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! >
Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . December 30th to January 5th, 2008: Narrow Margin (1990) Starring: Gene Hackman, Anne Archer, James Sikking, J.T. Walsh & M. Emmet Walsh - and - Hour of the Gun (1967) Starring: James Garner, Jason Robards, Robert Ryan, Albert Salmi & Charles Aidman. SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Yoke's On Me (1944).
<Note: Narrow Margin was shown at the Emporium for one day only on Jan 29th, 2006>
Narrow Margin (1990)
PLOT SUMMARY: A woman secretly witnesses the murder of her blind date for the evening by a top Mafia boss. She immediately goes into hiding without informing the authorities. When they finally catch up with her, she is unwilling to testify to what she has seen, but the Mafia are on her trail. Accompanied by a deputy district attorney, the woman boards a train traveling through a remote part of Canada. The Mafia know him but they have never seen her.
A woman secretly witnesses the murder of her blind date for the evening by a top Mafia boss. She immediately goes into hiding without informing the authorities. When they finally catch up with her, she is unwilling to testify to what she has seen, but the Mafia are on her trail. Accompanied by a deputy district attorney, the woman boards a train traveling through a remote part of Canada. The Mafia know him but they have never seen her.
<from: amazon.com>
<This film is filled with many, many moving train shots of VIA Rail's "Canadian" on the CP main line to Vancouver! >
Hour of the Gun (1967)
PLOT SUMMARY: Guns don't stay in their holsters long when vigilantes Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday meet outlaws in the Wild West. James Garner (Maverick) and OscarÂ(r) winner* Jason Robards (All the President's Men) saddle up as the legendary gunslingers in this riveting, fact-based story that is "the closest filmmakers have ever come to the truth of the OK Corral gunfight" (LA Herald-Examiner). With the dust barely settling at the OK Corral, the notorious Clanton brothers unleash their revenge. One by one, they gun down Wyatt Earp's brothersbut they won't have the last shot. Using his US Marshal's badge as his authority, and Doc Holliday (Robards) as his deputizedright-hand man, Earp begins a zealous pursuit of vengeance that the west will never forget.
Guns don't stay in their holsters long when vigilantes Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday meet outlaws in the Wild West. James Garner (Maverick) and OscarÂ(r) winner* Jason Robards (All the President's Men) saddle up as the legendary gunslingers in this riveting, fact-based story that is "the closest filmmakers have ever come to the truth of the OK Corral gunfight" (LA Herald-Examiner). With the dust barely settling at the OK Corral, the notorious Clanton brothers unleash their revenge. One by one, they gun down Wyatt Earp's brothersbut they won't have the last shot. Using his US Marshal's badge as his authority, and Doc Holliday (Robards) as his deputizedright-hand man, Earp begins a zealous pursuit of vengeance that the west will never forget.
SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Yoke's On Me (1944)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges failed their military entrance exams and decide to help the country by becoming farmers. Word is received that three men have escaped from a Relocation camp. The escapees later hide on the Stooges' farm. With the help of an explosive ostrich egg, the escapees are defeated.
The Stooges failed their military entrance exams and decide to help the country by becoming farmers. Word is received that three men have escaped from a Relocation camp. The escapees later hide on the Stooges' farm. With the help of an explosive ostrich egg, the escapees are defeated.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend!
Evening, Everybody! Tom, might I trouble you for the fried Mozzarella / Ravioli combo-basket, {with the ranch dipping sauce} and another Michelob Amber Bock please? I see Boris is sporting a nifty 'Nog "mustache;" but I won't go any further than a quiet chuckle. Good - you've got The Game on; what I'd like to know is why I've heard so little mention of the '72 Dolphins? If anyone here can help with this question, please feel free.
As promised, I'll wind up my first {and very pleasant} weekend here with some appropriate goodies {since this place is closed on Sunday, it'll give me plenty of time to get all the way through the pages here - I'll be fully "in the loop" come Monday}.One of the things I love most about railfanning are the happy coincidences that I've frequently had happen to me. My vignette with UP #844{4} is one such instance; and a wonderful afternoon spent at Kirkwood Station in June 1985 yielded the following pleasant surprises:
This is the first of an eventual six trains I saw during my 2-hour visit. The "Armour Hammer" had already begun to drop, as denoted by the fresh paint on the lead GP50. Even though I was already mourning the eventual loss of the Jenks'-blue, I actally grew to like the interim image on the 3510, preferring the squared-off "North Little Rock-style" lettering over the UP's standard font. In best MoP fashion, bringing up the rear of the consist is a mother/slug set, on it's way back to Jeff City, after some repairs at the Choteau shops downtown. Also in best MoP fashion, the lead GP50 was isolated, while the slug set was online and working; just as in the steam days, the MoP always worked new repairs {or builds} immediately, to make sure all was in order, a practice that obviosly survived into the post-merger era. {Note the missing screens on the spark bonnets on the MP-15; this isn't sloppy shop practice; rather it was a sign that the unit had just been equipped with internal {in-stack} arrestors.}The final two pics for tonight are real gems:
These pics are wonderful because of what they foretold; in 1985, the short-lived SPSF "marriage" was still being planned, and the Rio Grande was just SP's closest interchange partner. The train in question is actually a Cotton Belt trackage-rights manifest, one of six in each direction that ran daily {including the famous Blue Streak Merchandiser} at that time. This agreement was a condition of the 1982 UP-WP-MP merger, of course. I really didn't expect to see a caboose bringing up the rear {the rest of the MoP runs I saw including the one leading off here all had FRED's}, let alone the pretty little hack that rolled by me!!I caught the soon-to-be-gone eastbound Amtrak River Cities and three more westbounds before calling it a day; the only thing I missed that would have made this day truly perfect was a shot of the newly-inaugurated appearance of the daily MKT trackage-rights manifest {in those days, it usually was scheduled to leave St. Louis between 9 and 10 pm, passing through Kirkwood some 20-30 minutes later}. Classic Trains, indeed!! Would that I had a time machine...........Enjoy, my friends, and have a great Sunday! See y'all Monday............
Good evening Leon , I see that everyone's buying rounds today nice to see that we are going easy on Jan's tab. Heck I'll put up a round of whatever makes you happy tonight. a keith's for me Leon thank-you.
Tom-Loved the re runs of your VIA pics from days gone by some real keepers theer sir I just saw a picture today of VIA 6400 the first of the rebuilds on the F40's respendant in the new look VIA paint job to match the "chunnel chuggers "and the GE locomotives [barf] prefer the old paint job but whantcanyadoAt least they are rebuilding all the F40's instead of buying more of the GE's.If I don't make it in on Monday hope you and yours have a wonderfull new year
Mike-Nice to see you again buddy , loved those NYC shots you put up in honour of Shanes birthday. Great name for the donut machine as well. Hope you and yours have a great new year as well.
Pete-Happy trails and happy new year we'll keep your stool warm for you. to bad to hear that your restaurant lost it's railway flavour Some great pics though.
Lars-Happy landings, hope everthing settles in for "youse guys in da sunny south" Have a great new years. Don't do anything I wouldn'tthat gives you a lot of lattitudeThanks for the round bye the bye as well.
Chris-Glad to make your aqauntaince again. I think you'll get along famously with our international band o brothers that are here. Some wonderfull hots and wonderfull chat from you. I look forward to seeing and reading more from you in the new year.
For everyone else have a happy new year see everyone back next week
Okay Leon another round of Keith's please. here's a few random photo's from the museum to round out the year.
enjoy
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
A sugar cured ham sandwich would be perfect this cold Saturday night.
Kind of busy day with the Mrs. in Nebraska. That means I have to do everything myself. Chris – I am ready to hear your Kirkwood Hill memories any time! So you saw the X2000 at Union Station, St. Louis in 1993? I was there but I don’t think I would recognize you today. Maybe you are in this photo?
Union Station, St. Louis.The tunnel was fenced off when I took that picture, just managed to get a shot through the fence. Too bad they didn’t save any MT-73’s. Some very nice pictures! You can’t take those photos today! Maybe that GP50 still has the same paint scheme today? I wonder if they still use the mother/slug set at Jeff City? Rio Grande! Nice!Mike – Nice photos from Buffalo! Buffalo Central Terminal is visible in both! Below is a photo from 1993.
Buffalo Central Terminal 1993.
Tom – You are right, I think Chris is bound to take over my Nocturnal title pretty soon. Yeah, I like my retirement, kind of regret I promised to work part time the next 50 weeks. Thanks for those photos from Canada! Good looking dome cars! 2005, was that the last year they used those cars to Halifax? Two very good movies at the Emporium next week! I haven’t seen any of them earlier. If I had some more time I would scan some pics from OK Corrall of the shootings! It was kind of ugly. Pete – I have a photo of UP’s #8444 I took at the World’s Fair in New Orleans 1984. Not a good one though. The photo below shows just one detail of #8444 (today #844). SKF = Bearings from the old country.Ahh, I can see the Captain holding on to that old diesel! Nice photos from Missouri and England! The Duchess of Sutherland is a good looking locomotive!Lars – Lucky you, going to the Keys and the warm weather. We have had cold weather here in the desert now for three weeks! A Happy New Year to you and Yours!!Rob – Thanks for the round! And a Happy New Year to you and yours!!Thanks for those traction photos!! What is the device attached to the front of car #23? Is it supposed to work as a people catcher without harming them?
Kirkwood Station, MO.
Good evening again leon i think another Keith's is required
Eric-I hope you are refering to the mattress type life guard and not my wife Yes it is a people catcher designed to scoop them up and deposit them in the basket as oposed to dragging them under the trucks. Some neat pictures from you tonight as well. That's an interesting trainshed that the x2000 was sitting under.
Here's a few more museum shots that have been seen before,hope you enjoy them again.
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<However, feel free to drop your comments thru the mail slots in either set of front doors! >
Here's something for those of you who've enjoyed the flicks at our theatre . . .
Movies shown at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
Part I of II - 2006:
. . . GRAND RE-OPENING - Monday, January 9th: DOUBLE FEATURE: Von Ryan's Express (1965) starring Frank Sinatra & Trevor Howard - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) starring Jeffrey Hunter, Fess Parker & Slim Pickens. LIVE STAGE SHOW in between features!
. . . January 10th thru 14th: Silver Streak (1976) starring Gene Wilder & Richard Pryor.
. . . Sunday, January 15th DOUBLE FEATURE The Iron Horse (1924) SILENT MOVIE starring George O'Brien & Fred Kohler - and - The General (1927) SILENT MOVIE starring Buster Keaton.
. . . January 16th thru 21st: Disaster on the Coastliner (1979-TV) starring Lloyd Bridges, Raymond Burr & Robert Fuller.
. . . Sunday, January 22nd: DOUBLE FEATURE Danger Lights (1930) starring Louis Wolheim, Robert Armstrong & Jean Arthur. - and - Runaway Train (1985) starring Jon Voight, Eric Roberts & Rebecca De Mor Nay.
. . . January 23rd thru 28th: Denver and Rio Grande (1952) starring Edmond O'Brien, Sterling Hayden & Dean Jagger
. . . Sunday, January 29th: DOUBLE FEATURE Narrow Margin (1990) starring Gene Hackman & Anne Archer - and - North by Northwest (1959) starring Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint & James Mason.
. . . Monday, January 30th thru February 4th: Oh, Mr. Porter! (British - 1937) starring: Will Hay, Moore Marriott & Graham Moffitt - and - Shadow of a Doubt (1943) starring: Teresa Wright, Joseph Cotten & Macdonald Carey.
. . . Sunday, February 5th thru 11th: The Titfield Thunderbolt (British 1953) starring: Stanley Holloway, Naunton Wayne, John Gregson & Sidney James - and - Breakheart Pass (1975) starring Charles Bronson, Ben Johnson & Richard Crenna.
. . . Sunday, February 12th thru 18th: Bound for Glory (1976) starring: David Carradine, Ronny Cox & Melinda Dillon - and - Emperor of the North Pole (1973) starring: Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine & Keith Carradine.
. . . Sunday, February 19th thru 25th: Fahrenheit 451 (1966) starring: Oskar Werner, Julie Christie & Cyril Cusack - and - Northwest Frontier (1959) starring: Kenneth More, Lauren Bacall & Herbert Lom.
. . . Sunday, February 26th thru March 4th: Fours a Crowd (1938) starring: Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland & Rosalind Russell - and - Holiday Affair (1949) starring: Robert Mitchum, Janet Leigh & Wendell Corey.
. . . Sunday, March 5th thru 11th: North to Alaska (1960) starring: John Wayne, Stewart Granger & Capucine - and - Lost in Alaska (1952) starring: Bud Abbott & Lou Costello. Short: The Three Stooges - A Pain in the Pullman (1936). (Page 264 w/Pix)
. . . Sunday, March 12th thru 18th: Mystery Alaska (1999) starring: Russell Crowe, Hank Azaria & Mary McCormack - and - Slap Shot (1977) starring: Paul Newman - Strother Martin & Michael Ontkean. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Beer and Pretzels (1933).
. . . Sunday, March 19th thru 25th: Midnight Run (1988) starring: Robert De Niro, Charles Grodin & Yaphet Kotto - and - The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) starring: Betty Hutton, Cornel Wilde & Charlton Heston. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Hello Pop (1933).
. . . Sunday, March 26th thru April 1st:Major League (1989) starring Tom Beringer, Charlie Sheen & Corbin Bernson - and - Bull Durham (1988) starring: Kevin Costner, Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Plane Nuts (1933).
. . . Sunday, April 2nd thru 8th: Eight Men Out (1988) starring: Jace Alexander, John Cusack & Gordon Clapp - and - Field of Dreams (1989) Kevin Costner, Burt Lancaster & James Earl Jones. SHORT: The Three Stooges - The Big Idea (1934).
. . . Sunday, April 9th thru April 15th: The Harvey Girls (1946) starring: Judy Garland, John Hodiak & Ray Bolger -and- The Train (1964) starring: Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield & Jeanne Moreau. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Woman Haters (1934).
. . . Sunday, April 16th thru 22nd: The Molly Macquires (1970) starring: Sean Connery, Richard Harris & Samantha Eggers - and - It Happened to Jane (1959) starring: Doris Day, Jack Lemmon & Ernie Kovacs. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Punch Drunks (1934).
. . . Sunday, April 23rd thru Apr 29th: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) starring: Paul Newman, Robert Redford & Kathy Ross -and- The Sting (1973) starring: Paul Newman, Robert Redford & Robert Shaw. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Men In Black (1934).
. . . Sunday, April 30th thru May 6th: Cobb (1994) starring: Tommy Lee Jones & Robert Wuhl -and- Hoosiers (1986) starring: Gene Hackman, Barbara Hershey & Dennis Hopper. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Little Pigskins (1934).
Continuing on with the flicks at our theatre . . .
Part II of II - 2007:
. . . Sunday, December 31st thru January 6th: Sink the Bismarck (1960) Starring: Kenneth More, Dana Wynter, Carl Möhner, Laurence Naismith and Karel Stepanek - and - The Enemy Below (1957) Starring: Robert Mitchum, Curd Jürgens, David Hedison, Theodore Bikel and Russell Collins. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Mutts to You (1938).
. . . Sunday, January 7th thru 13th: The Cruel Sea (1953) Starring: Jack Hawkins, Donald Sinden, John Stratton, Denholm Elliott, John Warner - and - Away All Boats (1953) Starring: Jeff Chandler, George Nader, Lex Barker, Julie Adams, Keith Andes. SHORT: Flat Foot Stooges (1938).
. . . Tuesday, January 9th GRAND RE-OPENING ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION evening ONLY: Von Ryans Express (1965) Starring: Frank Sinatra, Trevor Howard, Raffaella Carrà, Brad Dexter, Sergio Fantoni - and - The Great Locomotive Chase (1956) Starring: Fess Parker, Jeffrey Hunter, Jeff York, John Lupton, Eddie Firestone. LIVE STA
Good evening folks , wow a unusual "two fer" from da bossman on a Sunday. Still it was good to see the insides of the ole Emporium theater ( the second best place in the mentor village ) The first must be the mud wrestling emporium seriously Tom good to see the movie lists again. We'll have to break out the coconut shells and watch the Holy grail together
here's a couple of Toms favourite posters slide throught thew mail slots to enjoy for the New years eve celebrations. Remember guys the drinks are on my tab for Monday night and Tuesday all day. Everyone have a safe and happy new year and remember use Vito's cousins cab service after the party <uh oh >
A smile to begin the week!
It's déjà vu all over again.
<A Yogi-ism!>
HAPPY NEW YEAR to our friend Allan (Gunneral) in downunder NZ where 2008 has arrived!
The final day for our Christmas decorations as the New Year will be upon us in the ‘morrow! Where does the time GO
The smell of our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee always spurs the taste buds - so let's get with it! Our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts are ready for orderin' from the Menu Board ‘n of course the pastries are fully stocked in The Mentor Village Bakery case <compliments of Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink>!
Join us at our New Years Eve Party back in the pool room, spilling over into the Rat's Patoot Room if needed. Be on your best behavior though as Inspector Clueless of our local Constabulary along with his erstwhile sidekick, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator, will once again be on "patrol." <uh oh>
<closes on Fri, 04 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>
Mike . . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)
<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!>
Saturday - Dec 29th:
Pete (pwolfe) at 1:06 PM: Was hoping our Bar Chandler would swing by before departing for KCity ‘n the New Year - didn't disappoint!
ALWAYS enjoy viewing the KCS F7A . . . we were very, very fortunate on our trips to view her all those times . . . not to mention the ENTIRE consist of the Southern Belle!
Liked the other fotos too! Duchess looks great! Diesel okay - Bathams Special Strong Ale! <awwwwwwwwright>
Safe trip back . . .
Lars (LoveDomes) at 2:15 PM: What's to say other than the Giants gave ‘em a run for their money, eh
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