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[siberianmo]

G’day!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #19 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #17

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Budd RDC’s from a 1950 advertisement found in my personal collection.

RDC – All-purpose Railway Passenger Coach

RDC, introduced a year ago, is the new all-stainless steel, self-propelled Budd rail diesel car. It is good looking, quiet, smooth riding. It is comfortable, clean and air-conditioned.

The New York Central now has two Budd RDC’s operating express service between Springfield and Boston, and a third, providing local service between western Massachusetts and Albany.

Western Pacific has two RDC’s covering the 924 miles which separate Oakland and Salt Lake City.

Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines have just placed six RDC’s in operation between Camden, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May. They leave Camden as a six-car train and end up as two-car trains at each of the three Jersey cities.,

Chicago & North Western has three RDC’s in commuter service; the Baltimore & Ohio will soon haves two and New York, Susquehanna Western, four.

These varied uses to which RDC is being put cover almost every kind of service a railway passenger coach can render.

The general acceptance of the Budd all-stainless steel RDC suggests that the development of railway passenger coach equipment may be headed in a new direction.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Budd Company . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . Philadelphia, Detroit, Gary. . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Budd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #20 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #18

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the RDC’s from Budd from a 1953 advertisement found in my personal collection.

40 RDC’S FOR THE PROGRESSIVE NEW HAVEN

If anybody should know how to carry passengers profitably it’s the New Haven. Nearly half its income is derived from this source in contrast with most railroads where freight is king.

This adds significance to the fact that the New Haven has become the largest purchaser of Budd RDC’s – stainless steel, self-propelled, rail diesel cars.

In the nearly three years RDC’s have been operating in this country and abroad they have compiled an impressive record. In performance, they have improved every schedule they were assigned to. In operation they have proved both reliable and economical – two RDC’s saved one railroad $600,000 in a year. In the comfortable, air-conditioned service they render, RDC’s have increased passenger patronage – one RDC, operating in a new service between Worcester and New London, picked up 944 passengers in its first week.

Both New England and the New Haven will benefit from expanded RDC operation.

. . . . . . . . . . The Budd Company, Philadelphia, Detroit, Gary. . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Budd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . PIONEERS IN BETTER TRANSPORTATION . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning,

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #21 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #19

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the RDC’s from Budd from a 1954 advertisement found in my personal collection.

. . . . . RDC – Car with a Future for Canada’s Future . . . . .

The Canadian Pacific – world’s greatest travel system – has just bought four Budd stainless steel RDCs. (The letters RDC stand for Rail Diesel Car.)

The cars were bought because of their proved ability to reduce costs, improve service and attract traffic. But also with an eye to Canada’s growth, which presages an increase in the need for transportation as Canada’s vast mineral, oil and natural resources are developed.

Operating experiences with RDC usually reveals potentialities not originally envisioned. Nobody has yet found their limit, though RDC is now operating in a searching range of services in Australia, Cuba and Saudi Arabia, as well as on our own country’s leading railroads. The Budd Company, Philadelphia, Detroit, Gary.

Automobile and Truck Bodies and Wheels. Railway Passenger Cars and Plows. Budd

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PIONEERS IN BETTER TRANSPORTATION . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #22 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #20

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.


Did you hear what the Cowboy said about the “Golden State”?

”WHAT A RIDE FER DUDES! SHE’S THE SMOOTHEST AND PURTIEST THING ON WHEELS FROM CHICAGO TO ARIZONA OR CALIFORNIA! ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!”

We think, you’ll enjoy our ”Golden State,” especially if you’re an experienced traveler. We have many friends who repeat, winter after winter, “chasing the sun Southwest” on this smooth, extra-fare S.P. & Rock Island streamliner. It’s convenient. Takes you via El Paso and Southern Arizona’s winter resorts to Palm Springs & Los Angeles.

She’s been re-streamlined, too, from stem to stern. We’ve issued a folder to celebrate the event and would like to send it to you. Helps you choose your accommodations, whether Pullman (Drawing rooms, Compartments, Bedrooms, Roomettes) or Chair Car (economical; Coffee Shop).

By the way, the ”Golden State” is extra fast, too – 44 ¼ pleasant hours, Chicago-Los Angeles or vice versa. Fine connecting streamliners. Perhaps you’d like to try another great S.P. route, going home. That way you see twice as much, usually for no extra rail fare. The little map shows how.

Why don’t you plan on the ”Golden State” for this winter or next summer? And meantime, let us send you that folder?

”GOLDEN STATE,” Chicago-Los Angeles, via El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs, 44 ¼ hours. Through Pullmans, Minneapolis and St. Louis to Los Angeles. Through Chair car, Minneapolis-Los Angeles. Connecting service to San Diego.

SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #23 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #21

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.


Did you hear what the Colonel said about the “Sunset Limited”

”WHAT A TRAIN, SUN! THE FLOWER OF NEW ORLEANS, THE BOAST OF TEXAS, THE SUNLIGHT OF ARIZONA, THE SENSATION OF HOLLYWOOD. ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!”

We’re happy to say that thousands of Americans are finding our ”Sunset Limited” a new and charming way to go West.

We think that you, too, will enjoy this sensational new ”Streamlined Train With the Southern Accent.” Especially with that New Orleans stopover. Luxury Pullman or Chair Car. Extra fare.

Your connections at New Orleans from, or two, points like Chicago, St. Louis, Washington, New York, etc., are good and offer fine streamliners. (New Orleans is a gourmet’s and shopper’s delight as you know.)

The ”Sunset Limited” takes you in 42 delightful hours through the heart of Texas, Southern Arizona’s winter resort country, Palm Springs & Los Angeles.

There, you can connect with other great new S.P. streamliners, can return by another S.P. route. You see twice as much. The little map shows how.

Why not try it this winter? Or next summer? And meantime, why not let us send you our New Orleans folder, and full information about this new way to California?
Mail coupon below today

”SUNSET LIMITED" New Orleans-Los Angeles via Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs. Connects at New Orleans with streamliners to and from Chicago, New York, Washington, other Eastern points.

SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #24 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #22

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.


Did you hear what the ‘49er said about the “City of San Francisco”

”WHAT A TRAIN, PARDNER! SHE’S THE FASTEST THING ON WHEELS BETWEEN CHICAGO AND THE GOLDEN GATE! ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!”

Did you know that you can board a modern streamliner in Chicago and travedl at your ease the same route the ‘49ers struggled over in the Gold Rush? Well, you can. In the crack extra-fare ”City of San Francisco” for instance, or the ”Overland” that shows you California’s lovely High Sierra by day.

Until you’ve done this you’ve never really seen the West.

We’ve just issued a new folder we’re rather proud of, ”Planning Your Overland Route Trip.” Tells you all about accommodations on these great “name trains” (finest Pullman; economical Chair Car).

By the way, at San Francisco these streamliners connect with our famous ”Lark,” “Daylight” and “Starlight” south to Los Angeles, thence with other great S.P. streamliners eastward. Or with the new ”Cascade” and ”Shasta Daylight” northward, right past gorgeous 14,161 foot Mt. Shasta to the lovely Pacific Northwest.

Mail that coupon today for free folders.

”CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO” Chicago-San Francisco via Omaha, Ogden, Great Salt Lake, Reno, Oakland. 40 ½ hours westbound via CNW-UP-SP. Shown here with Golden Gate Bridge in the background.

SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #25 . . . . . . . .


PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #23

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Santa Fe (AT&SF) from a 1950 advertisement in my personal collection.
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You arrive and depart Down-Town on the Santa Fe – not out in the country

When you’re gong somewhere, you want to be there when you arrive.

Go Santa Fe. You leave on your trip when you plan to leave.

You arrive relaxed, refreshed, at a convenient station right downtown, close to your hotel or office.

Travel Santa Fe and you choose accommodations to suit yourself. You get privacy as you like it. You have room to roam around when you want it. You enjoy wonderful Fred Harvey meals.

You be the judge. Go Santa Fe all the way!

Ride great trains through a great country

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Santa Fe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

. . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #26 . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #24

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Santa Fe (AT&SF) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.
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Enjoy the Pleasure Dome only dome car between Chicago and Los Angeles


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . new Super Chief . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The restful observation lounge . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . “top of the Super, next to the stars” . . .
. . . . . . is only one of many features you will enjoy on the . . . . . .
new Super Chief, the train that sets a new world standard
. . . . of travel. Daily between Chicago and Los Angeles. . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Santa Fe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day!

. . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #27 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #25

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Santa Fe (AT&SF) from a 1952 advertisement in my personal collection.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . a trip . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . you’ll always . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . remember . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . The comfortable way to see . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . the most colorful part of America . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . is on anyone of Santa Fe’s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . five famous trains between . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . Chicago and California – through . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . the Southwest Indian Country . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Super Chief – Chief – El Capitan – Grand Canyon – California Ltd.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Santa Fe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #28 . . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #26

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Chicago, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad (The Milwaukee Road) from an advertisement in Classic American Trains
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”Gee, Daddy, they had a private car just for us ladies.”

That’s right, young lady. There is a combination Touralux-coach, with 8 berth sections and 24 reserved coach seats exclusively for women and children on The Milwaukee Roads OLMYPIAN HIAWATHA.

The tastefully decorated Touralux sleeping cars have individually lighted and air conditioned berths. Yet berth cost and fare on a round trip between Chicago and Seattle is about $37 less than in standard sleepers.

You can travel in comfortable, reclining chair coaches . . . for less than 2 cents a mile . . . round trip between Chicago and Seattle only $76.20 plus tax.

While the OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA offers these unique advantages for the thrifty, it also provides de luxe Pullman accommodations. No matter what your choice, you enjoy fine food, friendly service and a fast schedule of 45 hours between Chicago and the Pacific north coast over a gloriously scenic route.

You can go to California via Seattle-Tacoma at little or no added rail fare. Ask your local railroad agent, or write: F. N. Hicks, Passenger Traffic Manager, 708 Union Station, Chicago 6, Illinois.

. . . . . . . . . .OLYMPIAN Hiawatha
. . . . . . . . . . . . Daily service between . . . . . . . . .
CHICAGO-MILWAUKEE-TWIN CITIES –MILES CITY-BUTTE-SPOKANE-SEATTLE-TACOMA

Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad – THE MILWAUKEE ROAD


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day!

. . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! #29 . . . . . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #27

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this advertisement out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

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Something new for veteran travelers

THROUGH SEPT. 29TH

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

For a limited time only

AEROTRAIN CLEVELAND-CHICAGO

This much-talked about, lightweight train offers a new experience in travel – provides fast, conveniently scheduled coach service between Cleveland and Chicago . . . with many attractive New York Central features.

* Hostess service
* Seat service for light meals from a rolling buffet
* Separate bar car
* Air cooled
* Reclining contour seats

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Standard Time) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Train #201 – Lv. Cleveland 6:35 AM – Ar. Chicago 12:15 PM
Train #200 – Lv. Chicago 4:00 Pm – Ar. Cleveland 10:45 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . Also serving 12 cities in between . . . . . . . . . .


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Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

The ENCORE! presentations are over and along with the New Year, comes new offerings! [tup]

. . . . . PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #20 . . . . .

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific (CM&StP) – The Milwaukee Road

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage: 1950: 10,664

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 803
Electric: 93

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 42.325
Passenger: 588

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Minneapolis via Milwaukee and Columbus, WI
New Lisbon-Woodruff, WI
Minneapolis-Seattle & Tacoma via Spokane, WA
Minneapolis & St. Paul-Calmar, IA via Austin, MN
La Crescent, MN-Wessington Springs, SD
Rondout, IL (Chicago)-Madison, WI
Watertown, WI-Rapid City, SD
Chicago-Omaha
Manilla, IA-Sioux Falls, SD
Marion-Ottumwa, IA
Sturtevant, WI-Kansas City
La Crosse, WI-Sabula, IA
Des Moines-Spencer, IA
Chicago-Terre Haute, IN
Milwaukee-Ontonagon, MI via Green Bay, WI

Passenger trains of note:

Afternoon Hiawatha (Chicago-Milwaukee-St. Paul & Minneapolis)
Arrow (Chicago-Omaha & Sioux Falls)
Chippewa-Hiawatha (Chicago-Channing, MI)
Copper Country Limited (Chicago-Green Bay-Calumet, MI jointly with DSS&A railroad)
Midwest Hiawatha (Chicago-Omaha & Sioux Falls)
Morning Hiawatha (Chicago-Milwaukee-Minneapolis)
Olympian (Chicago-Twin Cities-Seattle & Tacoma)
Olympian Hiawatha (Chicago-Twin Cities-Seattle U& Tacoma; replaced Olympian)
Pioneer Limited (Chicago-Milwaukee-St. Paul & Minneapolis)
Sioux (Chicago-Madison-Rapid City, SD)
Southwest Limited (Milwaukee & Chicago-Kansas City
Tomahawk (Chicago-Minocqua, WI)
Varsity (Chicago-Madison)

Of note: From 1955-1971, Milwaukee Road operated the Chicago-Omaha segment of UP’s “Overland” streamliners including the City of Denver, City of Portland, City of Los Angeles, City of San Francisco and the Challenger.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

First time and near the first for the year. I have two favorite classic train rides I remember fondly: riding the City of Los Angeles east bound to Chicago in 1954 we walked up to the head ens at Rawlins, Wyoming to watch the E-7's? come off and a Challenger take over the train, and having a kindly conductor open the vacant parlor lounge observation (round end) and letting me watch him vent the steam heat line
on the southbound San Diegan on a dark and stormy night. I remember the vivid red clouds of steam following the train south of Oceanside ca. 1960

[siberianmo]

Happy New Year! George

Appreciate your comments and making your FIRST Post on this thread. [tup]

Those "name trains" from yesteryear really do bring back some great memories and the Union Pacific had many, including:

Butte Special (Salt Lake City, UT-Butte, MT)
Challenger (Chicago-Los Angeles)
City of Las Vegas (Los Angeles-Las Vegas)
City of Denver (Chicago-Denver)
City of Los Angeles (Chicago-Los Angeles via Cheyenne, WY)
City of Portland (Chicago-Portland, OR via Cheyenne [via Denver 1959-68])
City of Salina (Kansas City-Topeka-Salina, KS)
City of St. Louis (St. Louis-Los Angeles & San Francisco & Portland via Kansas City & Denver)
City of San Francisco (Chicago-Oakville, CA via Cheyenne)
Columbine (Omaha-Denver)
Forty Niner (Chicago-Oakland)
Gold Coast (Chicago-Oakland & Los Angeles)
Idahoan (Cheyenne-Portland via Pocatello)
Los Angeles Limited (Chicago-Los Angeles)
Pony Express (Kansas City-Los Angeles)
Portland Rose (Denver-Portland)
San Francisco Overland (Chicago-Oakland; after 1955 St. Louis-Oakland)
The Spokane (Spokane, WA-Portland)
Utahn (Cheyenne-Los Angeles)
Yellowstone Special (Pocatello, ID-West Yellowstone, MT)

Then of course there was the Santa Fe (AT&SF) who operated:

Super Chief I(Chicago-Los Angeles)
El Capitan (Chicago-Los Angeles)
The Chief (Chicago-Los Angeles
Grand Canyon (Chicago-Los Angeles
The Scout (Chicago-Los Angeles)
San Francisco Chief (Chicago-San Francisco, CA)
Texas Chief (Chicago-Houston)
San Diegan (Los Angeles-San Diego
Tulsan (Kansas City-Tulsa)
Chicagoan (Dallas-Kansas City-Chicago)
Golden Gate (Los Angeles-San Francisco)

Enjoy your experiences on the Forums and perhaps you may find yourseslf visiting "Our" Place where the talk is always of Classic Trains while having some fun doing it.

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

. . . . . PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #21 . . . . .

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Soo Line

Headquarters: Minneapolis, MN

Mileage:

1954: 3,159
1961 (before 1985 acquisition of Milwaukee Road): 4,719

Locomotives in 1954:

Steam: 47
Diesel: 76

Rolling stock in 1954:

Freight cars: 8,035
Passenger cars: 128

Principal routes (w/Wisconsin Central) in 1954:

Chicago-Minneapolis/St. Paul
Minneapolis-Portal, ND
Minneapolis-Sault Ste. Marie, MI
Dresser, WI-Duluth, MN
Owen, WI-Duluth, MN
Glenwood-Noyes, MN

Passenger trains of note:

Atlantic Limited (Minneapolis-Boston, with CP and B&M east of Sault Ste. Marie)
Copper Country Limited (Chicago-Calumet, MI with CMStP&P Chicago-Champion, MI, thence DSS&A/Soo to Calumet)
Duluth-Superior Limited (Minneapolis-Duluth)
Laker (Chicago-Duluth & Minneapolis &Ashland, WI; rerouted to Superior, WI from Duluth in 1961)
Mountaineer (St. Paul-Vancouver, BC, with CP from Portal to Vancouver)
Soo Dominion (St. Paul-Vancouver with CP from Portal to Vancouver)
Winnipeger (St. Paul-Winnipeg, MB, with CP from Noyes to Winnipeg)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #33

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

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. . . . . . . . . . Roomettes Now Available On . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . The “WINNIPEGGER” . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BETWEEN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

ST. PAUL – MINNEAPOLIS – and WINNIPEG

For the Best Meals on Wheels and Complete Beverage Service

. . . . . . . . . . In the Soo Line Dining-Club Lounge Car . . . . . . . . . .

Roomettes, Bedrooms, Bedroom Suites and Open Sections.

. . . . . . . . . . Clean Comfortable Coaches . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Restful Individual Reclining Seats . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . All Equipment Air-conditioned. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

NORTHBOUND. . . . .(Daily – Central Standard Time). . . . .SOUTHBOUND

Lve. ST. PAUL . . . . . . . . . . 7 45 PM . . . . . . . Lve. WINNIPEG . . . . . . . . . . 7 10 PM
Lve. MINNEAPOLIS . . . . . . 8 40 PM . . . . . . . Lve. THIEF RIVER FALLS . . 11 25 PM
Arr. THIEF RIVER FALLS . . 3 55 AM . . . . . . . Arr. MINNEAPOLIS . . . . . . . . 7 15 AM
Arr. WINNIPEG . . . . . . . . . . 8 15 AM . . . . . . . Arr. ST. PAUL . . . . . . . . . . . 8 00 AM

The Milwaukee Rd. Hiawatha leaving Chicago 100 p.m., arriving St. Paul 7 15 p.m, Minneapolis 7 45 p.m., and C.B.&Q. No. 25 leaving Chicago 11 30 a.m., arriving St. Paul 6 15 p.m., connect with the Soo Line Winnipeger for Winnipeg and Western Canada.

Southbound “Winnipeger” makes convenient connections with morning “Hiawatha” and “Zephyr” and other important early morning trains from St. Paul to points East and South.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

. . . . . PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #22 . . . . .

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Norfolk & Western (N&W) ]

Headquarters: Roanoke, VA

Mileage: 1950: 2,129

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 610

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 75,621
Passenger cars: 251

Principal routes in 1950:

Lambert’s Point (Norfolk), VA-Columbus, OH
Portsmouth-Cincinnati, OH
Lynchburg, VA-Durham, NC
Roanoke-Hagerstown, MD
Roanoke-Winston-Salem, NC
Walton-Bristol, VA
Bluefield, WV-Norton, VA

Passenger trains of note:

Pocahontas (Norfolk-Cincinnati & Columbus)
Birmingham Special (New York-Birmingham, AL; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol)
Cavalier (Norfolk-Cincinnati)
Pelican (New York-New Orleans, LA; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol)
Powhatan Arrow (Norfolk-Cincinnati)
Tennessean (New York-Memphis, TN; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol)
Cannon Ball (Norfolk-New York; joint with ACL; RF&P; and PRR; operated by N&W Norfolk-Petersburg)

Of Note: In 1964, the N&W added the Wabash and Nickel Plate road to its system along with the Columbus-Sandusky line of the PRR, which the PRRR sold to the N&W. In 1981, the N&W added selected lines of the Illinois Terminal RR to its system. This Fallen Flag focuses on the pre-1964 N&W.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Afternoon!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #34

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the BURLINGTON ROUTE in a 1949 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . VISIT Colorful Colorado! . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . Land of a Million Thrills! . . . . . . . . . .

* No vacation empire in all the world offers you more variety – more sheer enjoyment! Mile-high Denver and its mountain parks . . . picturesque Colorado Springs and pikes Peak region . . . the grandeur of Rock Mountain National-Estes Park . . . the friendly Dude Ranches. Ride or hike! Fish or golf! Go sightseeing or just be lazy! Whatever you choose, Colorado gives you extra pleasure!

. . . . . For Speed, Comfort, Pleasure . . . Go Burlington! . . . . .

* Choose between two famous diesel-powered streamlined trains -0 the DENVER ZEPHYR, overnight every night from Chicago to Colorado . . . or the CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR, with its entrancing Vista-Domes. Extra speed, extra luxury . . . but no extra fare!

BURLINGTON’S 100th ANNNIVERSARY * 1849-1949
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Way of the Zephyrs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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. . . . . VISIT THE CHICAGO RAILROAD FAIR JUNE 25 – OCT 2 . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

I have a number of recollections that I plan to post from time to time.

The first train I rode was the Soo Line's Winnipeger. The train ran from Winnipeg to Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

During WWII we lived in a home in Winger, MN that allowed me to see the train at the depot.

Although I was only a grade schooler at the time, I remember awaking more than once as the Winnipeger arrived at 3 am en route to Winnipeg. I remember the lights shining through the windows of the various cars, the whistle as the engine slowed for the depot and the road crossing immediately after the depot. Shortly before the train left the engine bell would ring, there would be two quick whistle blasts, and then the sharp exhaust as the engine rapidly accelerated on its way. Uusally the engine was a pacific.

In July 1945, as a birthday present my father took my brother and myself on the Winnipeger from Winger to Minneapolis.

I can still see in my mind's eye the depot interior and hear the mysterious clicking of the morse code. The depot walls held a fascinating rack of timetables of various railroads.

In those days the timetables indicated every station on the line, whether the train stopped there or not.

Finally the light of the oncoming engine was seen!

Then we boarded the coach. It was next to what I now know was a diner lounge, although we never left our car during the seven hour journey.

The seats of the coach did not recline, but the lights were left on all night. We sat close to the end nearest the diner-lounge. All during the night I watched as the cars writhed and bounced along track that needed much work to smooth it out.

The lights looked as if they had once been lit by oil, as perhaps they had been.

Before getting on my mother warned me about the dirt on the window sills, There was indeed a lot of it, coming from the coal-burning steam locomotive.

In the morning before arriving in Minneapolis we sped past a number of small towns, but the view was largely obscured by the low-lying smoke of the locomotive.

When we arrived in Minneapolis, we walked past a Milwaukee Hiawatha train. I still remember its beaver tail observation car.

[cnw4001]

QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

Good Morning!

. . . . . PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #22 . . . . .

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Norfolk & Western (N&W) ]



Principal routes in 1950:

Portsmouth-Cincinnati, OH

Passenger trains of note:

Pocahontas (Norfolk-Cincinnati & Columbus)
Cavalier (Norfolk-Cincinnati)
[ Powhatan Arrow (Norfolk-Cincinnati)

Had the good fortune to watch the above N & W arrive and depart Cincinnati any day I chose to look out the back window. Saw them from the era of streamlined J's through the geeps.

[siberianmo]

For: parsontrains

Appreciate your vivid recollections of classic passenger trains! The idea of this thread has always been to generate some dialogue and as you can observe, not much of that has taken place. Hopefully your Post will urge others to join in.

I particularly liked the way you have put together your recollections - makes it very "real" for the reader.

I too was a grade schooler in the 40s and while my experiences are dfifferent from yours, the remembrances of illuminated passenger cars, with "life" inside, still are etched in my mind's eye. Always wondering where are they going? And would I ever get the chance to travel like that?

You are welcome to visit "Our" Place which is on this Forum. There are several guys who discuss a wide range of classic train subjects which may be of interest to you.

Thanx again for your input! [tup]

For: cnw4001

I cannot imagine seeing anything out of my back window as a kid to rival what you described. Great for the memory banks! [tup] Thanx for the response.

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #23

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Spokane, Portland & Seattle (SP&S)

Headquarters: Portland, OR

Mileage in 1950: 968

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 93

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 3,547
Passenger cars: 48

Principal routes in 1950:

Portland-Spokane, WA
Portland-Seaside, WA
Portland-Eugene, OR (subsidiary Oregon Electric Railway)
Wishram, WA-Bend, OR subsidiary Oregon Trunk Railway)

Passenger trains of note:

Columbia River Express [Portland-Spokane)
Empire Builder (Portland-Chicago)
Oriental Limited (Portland-Chicago)
Western Star (Portland-Chicago)
North Coast Limited (Portland-Chicago)
Mainstreeter (Portland-Chicago)

Of note: SP&S handled GN’s Empire Builder, Oriental Limited and Western Star between Portland and Spokane; SP&S handled NP’s North Coast Limited and Mainstreeter between Portland and Pasco, WA


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Afternoon!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #35

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Mountaineer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Famous Train through the CANADIAN ROCKIES

THIS YEAR will operate Daily June 29 thru August 28 between

ST. PAUL – MINNEAPOLIS

. . . . . . . . . . AND THE . . . . . . . . . .

NORTH PACIFIC COAST

Via Soo Line St. Paul-Portal. . . . . . . . . . . Can. Pac. Ry. Portal-Vancouver.

Through Standard Sleeping Cars offering Drawing-room, Compartment, Bedrooms, Roomette and Open Section accommodations, also excellent Dining Car Service.

Note – The Mountaineer is Diesel Electric Powered between ST. PAUL, MINN., and Portal, N.D. and in the Mountains.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . From ST. PAUL June 29 thru Auust 28.
Exmpl . down . . . From VANCOUVER July 2 thru August 31 . . up . . . Exmpl

Sat . . . 9 40 PM .lv St. Paul (C.T.) . . . . . . (Soo Line) . . . . . . . .ar 7:15 AM Sat
“ . . . . 1025 PM lv Minneapolis . . . . . . . . . (Soo Line) . . . . . . . .ar 6 30 AM “
Mon . . 7 15 AM ar Calgary (M.T.) . . . . . . . (Can. Pac.). . . . . . . lv 7 20 PM Thu
“ . . . . 10 30 AM ar Banff . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Can. Pac.) . . . . . . . lv 4 35 PM “
“ . . . . 11 45 AM ar Lake Louise . . . . . . . . .(Can. Pac.) . . . . . . lv 2 40 PM “
“ . . . . 12 55 PM ar Field (M.T.) . . . . . . . . . (Can. Pac.) . . . . . . lv 1 30 PM “
Tue . . . 7 50 AM ar Vancouver (P.T.) . . . . . (Can. Pac.) . . . . . . lv 6 30 PM Wed
“ . . . . 10 00 AM lv Vancouver . . . . . . . . . . (C.P.S.S.) . . . . . . . ar 5 25 PM “
“ . . . . 2 15 PM ar Victoria . . . . . . . . . . . . .(C.P.S.S.) . . . . . . . lv 1 10 PM “
“ . . . . 9 00 PM ar Seattle (P.T.) . . . . . . . . .(C.P.S.S.) . . . . . . . lv 8 00 AM “

C.T. – Central time; M.T. – Mountain Time; P.T. – Pacific Time


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Another great thread siberianmo [:D][tup]

Very cool, I especially like the EmpireBuilder

QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #8

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this advertisement out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

Great Northern(GN)

Great Way To CALIFORNIA via the Pacific Northwest

Chicago-Minneapolis-St. Paul-Spokane-Seattle & Portland-San Francisco-Los Angeles

TOWERING PEAKS in Glacier National Park in the Montana Rockies.

LOFTY MT. RAINIER looks over Seattle and Tacoma.

GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE is only one of the fascinating sights awaiting travelers in San Francisco.

Rail Fare to San Francisco is no more on Great Northern’s incomparable Great Dome EMPIRE BUILDER

To delight travel-experienced patrons who are planning a fall trip to California, suggest that they route themselves via the Pacific Northwest.

Great Northern’s EMPIRE BUILDER, now with Great Domes for both coach and Pullman passengers, takes the northern route across the nation - - more than two thousand miles of truly superb scenery.

Your patrons will thank you for sending them on a route where they can see the Mississippi River Palisades, Glacier National Park, the Rocky Mountains of Montana and Idaho. the Cascades of Washington and Oregon.

Connections with fine trains to and from California in Seattle or Portland. Rail fare from Chicago to San Francisco is no more via Great Northern.

For information:
P. G. Holmes
Passenger Traffic Manager
Great Northern Railway
St. Paul 1, Minnesota


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

The Empire Builder is my favorite of all the Classic Passenger trains. I have been lucky enough to travel to Glacier National Park and even chase the modern Empire Builder. Awesome thread!! [:)]

And don't worry, I wont hang around I just wanted to acknoledge this awesome [tup] thread.

Keep up the good work, I am learning a lot! [8D]

[cnw4001]

QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo
For: cnw4001

I cannot imagine seeing anything out of my back window as a kid to rival what you described. Great for the memory banks! [tup] Thanx for the response.

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

Just to clarify, I mentioned the N & W but I should say all seven railroad's passenger trains. C & O, B & O, NYC, L & N, PRR, N & W, Southern. Biggest regret is not taking many photos.

[siberianmo]

For: rgroeling Chris

Enjoy! This thread is for anyone interested in enjoying and discussing Classic Passenger Trains! Feel free to contribute whenever you wish! [tup]

For: cnw4001

Oh for a camera for opportunities missed! <frown> The Pennsy GG-1s, the NYC diesels wtih their "lightning bolt" livery, the New Haven in the red, black and white, etc., etc. Traveled aboard those trains, but never even thought to carrry a camera. Then again, the best "record" is that within my memory banks! I can still "see" them all! [yeah]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

For: rgroeling Chris

Enjoy! This thread is for anyone interested in enjoying and discussing Classic Passenger Trains! Feel free to contribute whenever you wish! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

Oh, why thank you!!! [:I] However, I will probably be doing more istening than anything, until I gain a strong enough knowledge of classic passenger trains where I can participate in the discussion...

Thanks [:)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #24

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Northern Pacific (NP)

Headquarters: St. Paul, MN

Mileage in 1950: 6,682

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesels: 662

Rolling stock in 1950:

Freight cars: 34,200
Passenger cars: 359

Principal routes in 1950:

Minneapolis/St. Paul-Fargo, ND-Butte, MT-Tacoma, WA
Logan-Helena-Garrison, MT
Portland, OR-Sumas, WA
Minneapolis/St. Paul-Duluth, MN
Staples, MN-Ashland, WI
Little Falls-International Falls, MN
Manitoba Junction-Crookston, MN-Winnipeg, MB
Wadena, MN-Leeds, ND

Passenger trains of note:

Alaskan (Minneapolis/St. Paul-Portland via Helena)
Mainstreeter (Chicago-Helena-Seattle & Portland)
North Coast Limited (Chicago-Butte-Seattle & Portland)

Of note: CB&Q handled passenger trains between Chicago and St. Paul. SP&S handled trains between Pasco and Portland.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #36

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE LAKER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . CHICAGO – DULUTH – SUPERIOR . . . . .

. . . . . On the Following Fast and Convenient Schedule: . . . . .

NORTHBOUND . . . . . (Daily – Central Standard Time) . . . . . SOUTHBOUND

Lve. CHICAGO . . . . . . . . . . 6 30 PM . . . . . . . . . . Lve. DULUTH . . . . . . . 7 30 PM
Lve. WAUKESHA . . . . . . . . 9 20 PM . . . . . . . . . . Lve. SUPERIOR. . . . . . 8 00 PM
Arr. SUPERIOR . . . . . . . . . .7 48 AM . . . . . . . . . . Arr. WAUKESHA . . . . . 5 40 AM
Arr. DULUTH. . . . . . . . . . . . 8 15 AM . . . . . . . . . . Arr. CHICAGO. . . . . . . .8 15 AM

FEATURES – Pullman Sleepers offering a variety of private rooms (Bedrooms, Bedroom Suites and Roomettes) and open sections.

Dining – Club – Lounge – Complete Beverage Service and the Best Meals on Wheels.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #25

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Great Northern(GN)

Headquarters: St. Paul, MN

Mileage:

1950: 8,220

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 642

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 39,055
Passenger cars: 579

Principal routes in 1950:

St. Paul, MN-Seattle, WA via Willmar, MN and New Rockford, ND
Minneapolis-Minot, ND via St. Cloud, MN, Fargo and Grand Forks, ND
Superior, WI & Duluth, MN-Grand Forks via Crookston, MN
Minneapolis & St. Paul-Duluth & Superior via Brook Park, MN
Barnesville, MN-Winnipeg, MB via Ada and Crookston, MN
Portland, OR-Vancouver, BC via Seattle, WA (trackage rights on NP Portland-Seattle)
Willmar-Sioux Falls, SD & Sioux City, IA
Havre-Great Falls-Helena-Butte, MT
Shelby-Great Falls-Billings, MT
Bend, OR-Bieber, CA via Klamath Falls, OR

Passenger trains of note:

Badger (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Superior-Duluth)
Cascadian (Seattle-Spokane, WA)
Dakotan (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Williston, ND)
Empire Builder (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Gopher (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Superior-Duluth)
International (Seattle-Vancouver, BC)
Oriental Limited (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Red River (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Grand Forks, ND)
Western Star (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Winnipeg Limited (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Winnipeg


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]