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[siberianmo]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #11


Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Denver & Rio Grande Western (D&RGW) [img]

Headquarters: Denver, CO

Mileage:

1950: 2,413
1995: 2,238 including trackage rights routes

Rolling stock as of 1963: Freight cars – 12,610 Passenger cars – 96

Principal lines in 1950:

Denver-Bond, CO-Salt Lake City, UT
Denver-Pueblo-Dotsero, CO
Pueblo-Trinidad, CO
Walsenburg-Alamosa, CO
Alamosa-Durango, CO
Salida-Gunnison, CO
Mears Junction-Alamosa
Alamosa-Creede, CO
Bond-Craig, CO
Grand Junction-Ouray, CO
Thistle-Marysvale, UT
Salt Lake City-Ogden, UT

Passenger trains of note:

California Zephyr (Chicago-Oakland, joint w/Burlington & Western Pacific)
Colorado Eagle (St. Louis-Pueblo-Denver, joint w/MoPac)
Exposition Flyer (Chicago-Oakland, joint w/Burlington & WP, replaced by California Zephyr in 1949)
Mountaineer (Denver-Montrose, CO, via Moffat Tunnel)
Panoramic (Denver-Ogden)
Prospector (Denver-Salt Lake City)
Rio Grande Zephyr (Denver-Ogden [later cut back to Salt Lake City], replaced California Zephyr 1970-83)
Royal Gorge (Denver-Pueblo-Ogden)
San Juan (Alamosa-Durango, CO)
The Silverton (Durango-Silverton, CO)
The Yampa Valley (Denver-Craig)

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

[siberianmo]

G'day!


D&RGW #601 leads the California Zephyr (1949) (fair use)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[LoveDomes]

Hiya Tom

Expect things to be really slow 'round here without 20 Fingers - but let's give it a try!


DRGW #1108 Silver Pony (1980) (from: www.trainweb.org)



Until the next time!

Lars

[LoveDomes]

G'day Capt. Tom

Like an empty train station around here today . . . kinda tells the tale, huh[?]


DRGW #1106 Silver Colt (1982) (from: www.trainweb.org)



Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Appreciate the support, Lars! [tup]



DRGW Abraham Lincoln Pullman Car (GNU Free Document



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

What a lonely place! Not at all like sitting in the car! [swg]


D&RGW California Zephyr lounge car


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #12

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR)



Headquarters: Philadelphia, PA

Mileage:

1950: 10,000
1962: 9,756

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 2,402
Electric: 254

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 139,356 Passenger cars: 3,546

Principal routes in 1950:

Philadelphia-Harrisburg-Pittsburgh, PA
New York-Washington, DC
Pittsburgh-Fort Wayne, IN-Chicago, IL
Pittsburgh-Indianapolis, IN-St. Louis, MO
Pittsburgh-Cleveland, OH
Baltimore, MD-Buffalo, NY
Wilmington, DE-Norfolk, VA
Chicago-Columbus, OH
Logansport, IN-Louisville, KY
Logansport-Cincinnati
Fort Wayne, IN-Mackinaw City, MI
Columbus-Toledo, OH-Detroit, MI

Passenger trains of note:

Broadway Limited (New York-Chicago)
Clevelander (New York-Cleveland)
Cincinnati Limited (New York-Cincinnati)
Colonial (Boston-Washington, joint with New Haven)
Congressional (New York-Washington)
Duquesne (New York-Pittsburgh)
Edison (New York-Washington)
The General (New York-Chicago)
Golden Triangle (Chicago-Pittsburgh)
Jeffersonian (New York-St. Louis)
Kentuckian (Chicago-Louisville)
Liberty Limited (Washington-Chicago)
Manhattan Limited (New York & Washington-Chicago)
Pennsylvania Limited (New York & Washington-Chicago)
Penn Texas (New York-Washington-St. Louis)
Pittsburgher (New York-Pittsburgh)
Red Arrow (New York-Detroit)
St. Louis (New York-Washington-St. Louis)
Senator (Boston-Washington, joint with New Haven)
“Spirit of St. Louis” (New York-St. Louis)
South Wind (Chicago-Miami, joint with L&N, ACL and Florida East Coast)
Trail Blazer (New York-Chicago)
Union (Chicago-Columbus, OH)

Of note: In the New York-Florida market, the PRR was a forwarder for many connecting passenger trains from other roads.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Something "different" for the Pennsy!


[4:-)] [oX)]



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[LoveDomes]

G'day Tom


I'll add your favorite to the "list" . . . .


PRR GG1 #4859 (photo credit: Transportation Center, Harrisburg, PA)



Until the next time!

Lars

[LoveDomes]

G'day Tom

I'm on a roll . . . another of your favorites!


PRR GG1 #4933 (photo credit: Jack Humphrey)



Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Thanx Lars! Looks like this Thread is heading off to the "yards," especially once those of us who are keeping it "alive" go offline to pursue other things - like LIVING! [swg]

Here's something a bit different for a Pennsy electric . . .



Pennsy E44 (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

A final installment for the night . . . .


Pennsy E2B (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

This was Posted over at the bar several weeks ago - time to appear here! [tup]


Now arriving on track #1 …..
Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Seven


Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.


Southern Pacific Railroad


Reporting marks:
SP,SSW

Locale: Arizona, California, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, and Utah

Dates of operation: 1865 – 1996

Track gauge:
4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) with some 3 ft (914 mm) gauge branches

Headquarters: San Francisco, CA


The Southern Pacific Railroad (AAR reporting mark SP) was an American railroad. The railroad was founded as a land holding company in 1865, forming part of the Central Pacific Railroad empire. The Southern Pacific's route miles has varied over the years but in 1929 the system showed 13,848 miles of track and in 1994 it had 8,991 miles of track. By 1900, the Southern Pacific Company had grown into a major railroad system that incorporated a lot of smaller companies, such as the Texas and New Orleans Railroad and Morgan's Louisiana and Texas Railroad, and that extended from New Orleans through Texas to El Paso, across New Mexico and through Tucson, Arizona, to Los Angeles, throughout most of California including San Francisco and Sacramento; it absorbed the Central Pacific Railroad extending eastward across Nevada to Ogden, Utah and had lines reaching north throughout and across Oregon to Portland.

On August 9, 1988, the Interstate Commerce Commission approved the purchase of the Southern Pacific by Rio Grande Industries, the company that controlled the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad. The Rio Grande officially took control of the Southern Pacific on October 13, 1988. After the purchase, the combined railroad kept the Southern Pacific name due to its brand recognition in the railroad industry and with customers of both constituent railroads.

The Southern Pacific was taken over by the Union Pacific Railroad in 1996 following years of financial problems.

The railroad is also noteworthy for being the defendant in the landmark 1886 United States Supreme Court case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad which is often interpreted as having established certain corporate rights under the Constitution of the United States.

•
Timeline

• 1851: The oldest line to become a part of the Southern Pacific system, the Buffalo Bayou, Brazos and Colorado Railway begins construction between Houston, TX and Alleyton, TX.
• 1865: A group of businessmen in San Francisco, CA, led by Timothy Phelps, found the Southern Pacific Railroad to build a rail connection between San Francisco and San Diego, CA.
• September 25, 1868: The Big Four purchases the Southern Pacific.
• 1870: Southern Pacific and Central Pacific operations are merged.
• June 1873: The Southern Pacific builds its first locomotive at the railroad's Sacramento shops as CP's 2nd number 55, a 4-4-0.
• November 8, 1874: Southern Pacific tracks reach Bakersfield, CA and work begins on the Tehachapi Loop
• September 5, 1876: The first through train from San Francisco arrives in Los Angeles, CA after travelling over the newly completed Tehachapi Loop.
• 1877: Southern Pacific tracks from Los Angeles cross the Colorado River at Yuma, AZ.
• 1879: Southern Pacific engineers experiment with the first oil-fired locomotives.
• March 20, 1880: The first Southern Pacific train reaches Tucson, AZ.
• May 11 1880: The Mussel Slough Tragedy takes place in Hanford, CA, a dispute over property rights with SP.
• May 19, 1881: Southern Pacific tracks reach El Paso, TX.
• January 12, 1883: The second transcontinental railroad line is completed as the Southern Pacific tracks from Los Angeles meet the Galveston, Harrisburg and San Antonio Railway at the Pecos River. The golden spike is driven by Col. Tom Pierce, the GH&SA president, atop the Pecos River High Bridge
• March 17, 1884: The Southern Pacific is incorporated in Kentucky.
• February 17, 1885: The Southern Pacific and Central Pacific are combined under a holding company named the Southern Pacific Company.
• April 1, 1885: The Southern Pacific takes over all operation of the Central Pacific. Effectively, the CP no longer exists as a separate company.
• 1886: The first refrigerator cars on the Southern Pacific enter operation.
• 1886: Southern Pacific wins the landmark Supreme Court case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad which establishes equal rights under the law to corporations.
• 1898: Sunset magazine is founded as a promotional tool of the Southern Pacific.
• 1901: Frank Norris' novel, The Octopus: A California Story, a fictional retelling of the Mussel Slough Tragedy and the events leading up to it, is published.
• 1903: Southern Pacific gains 50% control of the Pacific Electric system in Los Angeles.
• March 8, 1904: SP opens the Lucin Cutoff across the Great Salt Lake, bypassing Promontory, UT for the railroad's mainline.
• March 20, 1904: SP's Coast Line is completed between Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, CA.
• April 18, 1906: The great 1906 San Francisco earthquake strikes, damaging the railroad's headquarters building and destroying the mansions of the now-deceased Big Four.
• 1906: SP and UP jointly form the Pacific Fruit Express (PFE) refrigerator car line.
• 1913: The Supreme Court of the United States orders the Union Pacific to sell all of its stock in the Southern Pacific.
• December 28, 1917: The federal government takes control of American railroads in preparation for World War I
• 1923: The Interstate Commerce Commission allows the SP's control of the Central Pacific to continue, ruling that the control is in the public's interest.
• 1932: The SP gains 87% control of the Cotton Belt Railroad.
• May 1939: UP, SP and Santa Fe passenger trains in Los Angeles are united into a single terminal as Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal is opened.
• 1947: The first diesels enter mainline operation on the SP.
• 1947: Southern Pacific is reincorporated in Delaware.
• 1951: Southern Pacific subsidiary Sud Pacifico de Mexico is sold to the Mexican government.
• 1952: A difficult year for the SP in California opens with the City of San Francisco train marooned for three days in heavy snow on Donner Pass; that summer, an earthquake hits the Tehachapi pass, closing the entire route over the Tehachapi Loop until repairs can be made.
• 1953: The first Trailer-On-Flat-Car (TOFC, or "piggyback") equipment enters service on the SP.
• 1957: The last steam locomotives in regular operation on the SP are retired; the railroad is now fully dieselized.
• 1965: Southern Pacific's bid for control of the Western Pacific is rejected by the ICC.
• 1967: SP opens the longest stretch of new railroad construction in a quarter century as the first trains roll over the Palmdale Cutoff through Cajon Pass.
• 1980: Now owning a 98.34% control of the Cotton Belt, the Southern Pacific extends the Cotton Belt from St. Louis to Santa Rosa, New Mexico through acquisition of part of the former Rock Island Railroad.

(copied per terms of GNU Free Document License)
SP 8033, a GE Dash 8-39B, leads a westbound train through Eola, Illinois (just east of Aurora), October 6, 1992.

• 1984: The Southern Pacific Company merges into Santa Fe Industries, parent of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway, to form Santa Fe Southern Pacific Corporation. When the Interstate Commerce Commission refuses permission for the planned merger of the railroad subsidiaries as the Southern Pacific Santa Fe Railroad SPSF shortens its name to Santa Fe Pacific Corporation and puts the SP railroad up for sale while retaining the non-rail assets of the Southern Pacific Company.
• October 13, 1988: Rio Grande Industries, parent of the Rio Grande Railroad, takes control of the Southern Pacific Railroad. The merged company retains the name "Southern Pacific" for all railroad operations.
• 1996: The Union Pacific finishes the acquisition that was effectively begun almost a century before with the purchase of the Southern Pacific. The merged company retains the name "Union Pacific" for all railroad operations.

Locomotive paint and appearance

(copied from public domain)

Like most railroads, the SP painted the majority of its steam locomotive fleet black during the 20th century, but after the 1930s the SP had a policy of painting the front of the locomotive's smokebox light silver (almost white in appearance), with graphite colored sides, for visibility.

Some express passenger steam locomotives bore the Daylight scheme, named after the trains they hauled, most of which had the word Daylight in the train name. This scheme, carried in full on the tender, consisted of a bright, almost vermilion red on the top and bottom thirds, with the center third being a bright orange. The parts were separated with thin white bands. Some of the color continued along the locomotive. The most famous Daylight-hauled trains were the Coast Daylight and the Sunset Limited.

Southern Pacific was famous for its cab-forward steam locomotives. These were essentially 2-8-8-4 locomotives set up to run in reverse, with the tender attached to the smokebox end of the locomotive. Southern Pacific used a number of snow sheds in mountain terrain, and locomotive crews nearly asphyxiated from smoke blowing back to the cab. After a number of engineers began running their engines in reverse (pushing the tender), Southern Pacific asked Baldwin Locomotive Works to produce cab-forward designs. No other North American railroad ordered cab-forward locomotives, which became a distinctive symbol of the Southern Pacific.

During the early days of diesel locomotive use, they were also painted black. Yard switchers had diagonal orange stripes painted on the ends for visibility, earning this scheme the nickname of Tiger Stripe.

Road freight units were generally painted in a black scheme with a red band at the bottom of the carbody and a silver and orange "winged" nose. The words "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" were borne in a large serif font in white. This paint scheme is called the Black Widow scheme by railfans.

A transitory scheme, of all-over black with orange "winged" nose, was called the Halloween scheme. Few locomotives were painted in this scheme and few photos of it exist.

Most passenger units were painted originally in the Daylight scheme as described above, though some were painted red on top, silver below for use on the Golden State (operated in cooperation with the Rock Island Railroad) between Chicago and Los Angeles. In 1959 SP standardized on a paint scheme of dark grey with a red "winged" nose; this scheme was dubbed Bloody Nose by railfans. Lettering was again in white. After the merger with the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad, the side lettering became often done in the Rio Grande "speed lettering" style.

Unlike many other railroads, whose locomotive numberboards bore the locomotive's number, the SP used them for the train number all they way up to the proposed Southern Pacific Santa Fe Railroad merger. By the Rio Grande Industries era, SP had adopted the more standard practice of using the number boards for the road number.

Passenger train service

Until May 1, 1971 (when Amtrak took over long-distance passenger operations in the United States), the Southern Pacific at various times operated the following named passenger trains:

• 49er
• Argonaut
• Beaver
• Cascade Limited
• City of San Francisco (operated jointly with the Chicago and North Western Railway and the Union Pacific Railroad)
• Coast Daylight
• Coaster
• Del Monte
• Fast Mail
• Golden State (operated jointly with the Rock Island Railroad)
• Klamath
• Lark
• Oregonian
• Overland
• Owl
• Pacific Limited
• Rogue River
• Sacramento Daylight
• San Francisco Challenger
• San Joaquin Daylight
• Shasta
• Shasta Limited
• Sunset
• Sunset Limited
• Tehachapi
• West Coast

Company officers

Presidents of the Southern Pacific Company

• Timothy Guy Phelps (1865-1868)
• Leland Stanford (1868-1890)
• Collis P. Huntington (1890-1900)
• Charles Hayes (1900-1901)
• E. H. Harriman (1901-1909)
• Robert Lovett (1909-1911)
• William Sproule (1911-1918)
• Julius Krutschnitt (1918-1920)
• William Sproule (1920-1928)
• Paul Shoup (1929-1932)
• Angus Daniel McDonald (1932-1941)
• Armand Mercier (1941-1951)
• Donald Russell (1952-1964)
• Benjamin Biaggini (1964-1976)
• Denman McNear (1976-1979)
• Alan Furth (1979-1982)
• Robert Krebs (1982-1983)
• D. M. "Mike" Mohan (1984-1996)

Chairmen of the Southern Pacific Company Executive Committee

• Leland Stanford (1890-1893)
• (vacant 1893-1909)
• Robert Lovett (1909-1913)
• Julius Krutschnitt (1913-1925)
• Henry deForest (1925-1928)
• Hale Holden (1928-1932)
•
Chairmen of the Southern Pacific Company Board of Directors

• Henry deForest (1929-1932)
• Hale Holden (1932-1939)
• (position nonexistent 1939-1964)
• Donald Russell (1964-1972)
• (vacant 1972-1976)
• Benjamin Biaggini (1976-1983)

Predecessor and Subsidiary Railroads

• California Pacific Railroad (Cal-P line Sacramento - Martinez, CA)
• Central Pacific Railroad
o Sacramento Southern Railroad
• Northern Railway SP Subsidiary
o West Side & Mendocino Railroad (Willows - Fruto, CA)
• Northwestern Pacific Railroad
• San Diego and Arizona Railway

Sucessor Railroads

• California Northern Railroad
• Eureka Southern Railroad
o North Coast Railroad
• San Diego and Arizona Eastern Railway
• San Joaquin Valley Railroad

References

• Beebe, Lucius (1963). The Central Pacific & The Southern Pacific Railroads, Howell-North Books, Berkeley, CA. ISBN 083107034X.
• Diebert, Timothy S. and Strapac, Joseph A. (1987). Southern Pacific Company steam locomotive compendium, Shade Tree Books, Huntington Beach, CA. ISBN 0-930742-12-5.
• Yenne, Bill (1985). The History of the Southern Pacific, Bonanza, New York, NY. ISBN 0-517-46084X.
• Thompson, Anthony W., et al (1992). Pacific Fruit Express, Signature Press, Wilton, CA. ISBN 1-930013-03-5.
• Orsi, Richard J (2005). Sunset Limited. The Southern Pacific Railroad and the Development of the American West 1850-1930, University of California Press. ISBN 0-520-20019-5.


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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[LoveDomes]

G'day Tom

My guess it's just you & me for this thread . . .

I just left a post over at the bar . . . .



SP #10608 Automat Cafe (from: LA River RR)



Hey! I see where we are getting close to 1,000 replies on this thread! [tup][tup][tup] Of course, 90% of 'em are yours! [swg]


Until the next time!

Lars

[BudKarr]

Good Morning Captain Tom!

Yes, 'tis I with a brief morning visit after having dropped off a Post over a the bar!

Closing in on 1000 responses! Now that is indeed an accomplishmnet for what began as an experiment. Good show! [tup][tup][tupl]

My resources are rather slim when it comes to the Southern Pacific, something our friend Dave would mightily enjoy - but he does not seem to have the time to check these pages out - or those at the bar either.

Just my "show of support" and I will see you in mid to late June!

Bk in beautiful Alberta, Canada's high mountain country!

[siberianmo]

G'day!

1,000th reply! [tup] [yeah] [wow]

Okay - now, where were we[?] Ah, yes - Lars 'n BK stopped by - appreciate the support, gents! [tup][tup]


SP Golden State in Palm Springs (1948) (fair use)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

I'll just toss mine in, being new to the joint. My Dad took my brother and me to Cincinnati in 1962 (I believe that was the year) to see the Reds in a playoff game of the World Series at Crosley field. We caught the C&O's George Washington at South Portsmouth (located in Kentucky across the Ohio River from Portsmouth, Ohio), and I remember sitting in the cold fog waiting for the train to come in. The GW finally arrived, pulled by two blue E-8's, and all blue C&O livery cars. We rode daycoaches to and from Cincinnati, and our 'base of operation' was the Union Terminal station in Cincinnati. This was a VERY impressive building to my then young mind. Cavernous is the best describer, and at first appearance looked all the world to be an old desk top radio. Apparently I was dead on target, as all the land that the station was built on was donated by Crosley, of Crosley radio fame, and he WANTED the station to remind folks of the product he sold (or at least one of them).

Just a side note, old man Crosley was a savvy business man. He had a 'method to his madness' for donating the land for the station to be built. The NYC, N&W and C&O all shared occupancy of the station, and Crosley also owned the clear channel voice radio station, WLW, which is STILL operated out of CIncinnati. The story goes that the main tower of the radio station sat next to the Union Station, and he had lead lines that ran from the radio tower to the NYC mainline track. At night, the power was cranked up at WLW (as was then allowed by the FCC, as many folks didn't have any local radio stations, so these clear channel stations increased power at night so those in rural areas to hear something on their radio.) I have been told by old farmers in my neck of the woods that on humid southern nights in Ohio, you could actually see static electricity dance along their barb wire fenses that stood along the railroad tracks due to the power being cranked by WLW using that NYC lead wire. It was said it increased the power of WLW to at least a million watts, leading to the FCC finally stepping in and making Crosley disconnect his wires because of complaints by local radio stations that were being blown off the air when WLW increased power. (grins) Sorry for the side track, but that's always amused me.

Back to topic....The ride had no particular specifics that I can remember, besides the fact that every passenger coach I ever rode on on the C&O ALWAYS smelled of diesel fuel, creosote, and stale cigar smoke. (grins)
Regards! Michaelson

[LoveDomes]

G'day (again) Capn Tom

Let me extend a [#welcome] aboard to Michaelson and his visit to our lonely thread! [tup]

Enjoyed your post and there's lots to "grab onto" with your remembrances!

Speaking of baseball - in 1962, the NY Yankees beat the SF Giants 4 games to 3 in the World Series. In 1961, the NY Yankees beat the Cincy Reds 4 games to 1 in the WS. The Reds won their only game, 6 to 2 in Yankee Stadium.

CIncy's Union Terminal is a fine piece of architecture and one that ranks right up there with the best in the north America.

I extend an invitation to you, Sir, to spend some time with us over a a "cyber bar 'n grill" called "Our Place." It is one of Capn Tom's creations and is a lively place for those of us who enjoy talking of the "Classic Trains" in an adult enviornment - with some fun thrown in. [tup]

[LoveDomes]

G'day (again) Capn Tom

Congrats to you, Tom for being the 1,000th to post here on "your other thread!" [tup][tup][tup]

Let me extend a [#welcome] aboard to Michaelson and his visit to our lonely thread! [tup]

Enjoyed your post and there's lots to "grab onto" with your remembrances!

Speaking of baseball - in 1962, the NY Yankees beat the SF Giants 4 games to 3 in the World Series. In 1961, the NY Yankees beat the Cincy Reds 4 games to 1 in the WS. The Reds won their only game, 6 to 2 in Yankee Stadium.

CIncy's Union Terminal is a fine piece of architecture and one that ranks right up there with the best in north America.

I extend an invitation to you, Sir, to spend some time with us over at a "cyber bar 'n grill" called "Our Place." It is one of Capn Tom's creations and is a lively place for those of us who enjoy talking of the "Classic Trains" in an adult enviornment - with some fun thrown in. [tup]

Now for my continuing contribution . . . .


SP #2954 Parlor obs (from: LA RIver RR)



Until the next time! [tup]
Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Nice Post, Lars! Let me add my "hello" to Michaelson - sounds like he'd enjoy our banter over at the bar.

What, no SP domes[?] [swg]


SP #3601 Chicago (1971) (foto credit: unknown)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #13

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

New York Central System (NYC)

Headquarters: New York City

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 1,965 Electric: 65

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 94,115 Passenger cars: 2,905

Principal routes in 1950:

New York-Buffalo, NY-Cleveland, OH-Chicago, IL
Buffalo-Detroit, MI-Porter, IN (Chicago)
Boston, MA-Albany, NY
Cleveland-Columbus-Cincinnati, OH
Gallion, OH-St. Louis, MO
Chicago-Indianapolis, IN-Cincinnati
Indianapolis-Peoria, IL
Cleveland-Pittsburgh, PA
Detroit-Toledo, OH-Springfield, OH
Toledo-Columbus, OH-Charleston, WVA
Utica, NY-Montreal, QC

Passenger trains of note:

Chicagoan (New York-Cleveland-Chicago)
Chicago Mercury (Chicago-Detroit)
Cincinnati Mercury (Cleveland-Cincinnati)
Cleveland Mercury (Detroit-Cleveland)
Cleveland Limited (New York-Cleveland)
Commodore Vanderbilt (New York-Chicago)
Detroiter (New York-Detroit)
Detroit Mercury (Cleveland-Detroit)
Empire State Express (New York-Buffalo)
James Whitcomb Riley (Chicago-Cincinnati)
Knickerbocker (New York-St. Louis)
Lake Shore Limited (New York-Cleveland-Chicago)
The Michigan (Chicago-Detroit)
Motor City Special (Chicago-Detroit)
New England States (Chicago-Cleveland-Boston)
Ohio State Limited (New York-Cleveland-Cincinnati)
Pacemaker (New York-Cleveland-Chicago)
Southwestern Limited (New York-St. Louis)
20th Century Limited (New York Chicago)
Twilight Limited (Chicago-Detroit)
Wolverine (Chicago-Detroit-New York)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Another day at the lonely Thread without 20 Fingers Al <groan> But, we'll muddle through . . . ..


NYC EMD E8A #4043 (foto credit: unknown)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by LoveDomes

Speaking of baseball - in 1962, the NY Yankees beat the SF Giants 4 games to 3 in the World Series. In 1961, the NY Yankees beat the Cincy Reds 4 games to 1 in the WS. The Reds won their only game, 6 to 2 in Yankee Stadium

Thank you for your welcome! So, it was '61 then. Told you my memory was getting a bit fuzzy. I do remember the Reds lost that day, but that was ok. We were sitting down the 3rd baseline in the 3rd row, and everytime something happened, everyone jumped up, so I didn't see much of the game anyhow. (grins)[;)]

High regards! Michaelson

[LoveDomes]

Hello Capn Tom

Just left a hefty batch of pix over at the bar for the Burlington Zephyrs theme - really well done stuff over there! [tup]

Hello Michaelson - good to see you again! Haven't seen you over at "Our" Place, so my guess is you aren't interested. The invitation is still valid though . . . .

Been checking my pix files and came up with this for the NYC

NYC FM/GE #4404 (1953) (photo: Howard W. Ameling)


See ya in a few days!

Lars

[Anonymous]

Actually I've been in and out the door several times. No one was there when I visited, so I moved on. Sorry I missed you.

Regards! Michaelson

[siberianmo]

G'day!

We'll miss ya Lars!! Looks like we're down to just me . . .


NYC Hudson 4-6-4 (public domain)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

And another . . .



NYC 4-8-4 #6003
(from: www.yesteryeardepot.com - foto credit: Fred C. Stoes)


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Last one for the day - this time an advertisement:

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #27

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this advertisement out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)



Something new for veteran travelers
THROUGH SEPT. 29TH

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

For a limited time only
AEROTRAIN CLEVELAND-CHICAGO

This much-talked about, lightweight train offers a new experience in travel – provides fast, conveniently scheduled coach service between Cleveland and Chicago . . . with many attractive New York Central features.

* Hostess service
* Seat service for light meals from a rolling buffet
* Separate bar car
* Air cooled
* Reclining contour seats

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Standard Time) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Train #201 – Lv. Cleveland 6:35 AM – Ar. Chicago 12:15 PM
Train #200 – Lv. Chicago 4:00 Pm – Ar. Cleveland 10:45 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . Also serving 12 cities in between . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #14

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Santa Fe (AT&SF)

Headquarters: Chicago, Il

Mileage:

1950: 13,074 including subsidiaries
1995: (prior to merger with Burlington Northern): 9,126

Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 1,855

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars: 84,439 Passenger cars: 1,235

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Los Angeles via Kansas City, MO. and La Junta, CO
Emporia, KS-Galveston, TX via Oklahoma City, OK & Ft. Worth & Houston, TX
Emporia, KS-Dalies, NM
Barstow-Richmond, CA
Temple-Farwell, TX
Denver-LaJunta, CO
Albuquerque, NM-El Paso, TX
Dallas-Presidio, TX
Kansas City-Tulsa

Passenger trains of note:

Super Chief I(Chicago-Los Angeles)
El Capitan (Chicago-Los Angeles)
The Chief (Chicago-Los Angeles
Grand Canyon (Chicago-Los Angeles
The Scout (Chicago-Los Angeles)
San Francisco Chief (Chicago-San Francisco, CA)
Texas Chief (Chicago-Houston)
San Diegan (Los Angeles-San Diego
Tulsan (Kansas City-Tulsa)
Chicagoan (Dallas-Kansas City-Chicago)
Golden Gate (Los Angeles-San Francisco)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

[siberianmo]

G'day!

A bit of Santa Fe freight . . .


ATSF #9536 Kodachrome (courtesy: www.trainweb.com)



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]