QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 05 July 2005, 10:09:00 Morning all, Coffee and Danish, Trollyboy the trucks are on a section of "panel" track next to the Locomotive, but they are Big, 11 tons each, what I am attempting to do is build a portable boring machine to clean up the pivot points between the side frames of the Buckeye trucks. We will build a parallel out of 3 inch angle iron and place it parallel and above to the hole to be machined, after aligning the parallel we will secure it to the frame as ridgedly as possable. Then we will put a support rod< <probably a chunk of 3 inch cold rolled I have sitting around> that will hold the brackets that support the boring bar. the boring bar will be driven by a roll motor <giant drill motor> and we will pu***he bar through the pivot hole. The Frame will have to be aligned using our car jacks so as to have all the bearing surfaces properly aligned to each other. On advice from the guys at the "home Machinist" site <http://www.chaski.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?Cat=&C=1> I am scrapping the drill press idea in favor of a simpler approach. Ted I like the site too but no one said "what cars they wanted on the train" <G>, maybe the dance club car? Have fun all Gotta go pay bills. Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 July 2005, 11:04:21 All of our regulars know about the Birthday Watch List .... however, it needs to be posted repeatedly, just as a reminder regarding who is coming up next for the Birthday Bash ...... 2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST (rev. July 5th): February 2nd (Kevin – 49) March 5th (Nick – 45) April 18 (Al - 63) May 18th (Tom - 67) May 27th (Dave - 46) June 24th (Dan - 43) July 15th (*** – 65) July 25th (Chris - 51) July 30th (Russell – 34) August 16th (Ted - 67) September 8th (Rob - 34) Not on the list [?]Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year). Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 05 July 2005, 11:38:27 Good morning Tom. If Boris isn't too busy with his ummm friends, I'm wondering if I could have the ole bottomless cup o joe and a short stack maybe? Gunns Thanks for the drill press update. I was having trouble visualizing what you were doing. Sounds like the new approach will work better. for you mechanically inclined people. Here I thought I was getting extremly high tech last summer when I was sanding down and repainting parts of the interior of S37 oh well every little bit helps. Ted Do they even still make Bromo Seltzer? I haven't seen it on shelves up here in a long time. Not since gavisgone and the like have come out on the market. Hearing the name reminds me of our one museum member. he teaches at the University of Guelph (physics) He has been getting reproduction ad art from a small company in San Fran, these guys reproduce the old header signs ( ads inside busses and streetcars) They add a nice period touch to the cars seeing the vintage arrow color or Lux soap adds etc. I'm sure that we have some Bromo Seltzer and Brill Creame adds as well. Well I've got to scoot looks like a thundery day's ahead, I'll try to pop back in later. Rob
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 05 July 2005, 12:07:21 Hello all, I'll take my usual. We enjoyed a great fireworks display last nite at one of the area parks. More displays were going off on the drive home. The funniest thing that the haze in the air was actually from all the fireworks (both backyard and public displays). The haze was gone this morning. All KC Chiefs fans are mourning the loss of Hank Stram, the Hall of Fame coach who has the best winning record for the Chiefs, passed away Sunday at the age of 82 after a long battle with a disease. He led our Chiefs to two Superbowls (I and IV), which we won nbr IV. A Toast to Hank and a big Thank You for what you accomplished. For more info go to www.kcchiefs.com Tom, thanks for including me on the b-day bash list. Remember, nothing over the top for me Last time I really "celebrated" my birthday was when I turned 21, but that's a whole different looonnnng story. Dan, I have another picture of Ernie at the helm. The name of the guy standing on the steps has escaped my mind. I do know that he made engineer that Sunday morning. Pass along a congrats from me. Trolleyboy, the Midland's ex-MKT RS3M is an Alco-EMD hybrid. For more info go to their website at www.midland-ry.org and then equipment photos. Ted, I will admit the NYC lightning stripes are an attractive scheme. I always thought Chessie's multi-color job with the sleeping kitten logo was one of the tops of the Eastern roads. I'll have another Miller Lite please. Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 July 2005, 13:03:29 For: Trolleyboy Rob Short stack and a Keith's coming up! OOOOOOooooops - you said Joe - sorry! Just did a check on www.dogpile.com (search engine, no joke!) and found numerous sources for Bromo Seltzer! Nevertheless, WE have plenty 'round here. Take a closer look at this place - go on - check out the pix - this is an OLD building with lotsa places upstairs where OLD things are stored away. Must be seven gross of Bromo Seltzer packages tucked away beneath one of the feather beds. Boris is in a great mood this fine day, we found a bicycle tire tub repair kit for him. Gloria has returned to full form! You can send some of those thunder heads down this way - we haven't seen an appreciable rain fall since Mobey *** was a Minnow - or so it seems! Enjoy! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 Julyt 2005, 13:18:14 For: Trainnut484 Russell Nice, cold Miller Lite with a frosty mug ...... I was stationed in NYC when the AFL began in 1960. The New York Titans (later to become the Jets) played in the old Polo Grounds in Manhattan, right across the Harlem River from Yankee Stadium. Anyway, the Dallas Texans (later to become the KC Chiefs) played the Titans and Hank Stram of course was their coach. Tickets were never a problem in those early years and the game was wide open ... I mean fling that ball and run like the wind to catch it type of football. Lotsa fun ....... Hank was one helluva man and for anyone who appreciates real football with thinking men at the helm - he was tops in my book. RIP, Hank Stram! Glad to see you on the Birthday Watch List. Thanx for participating! By the by, it was me who talked about the NYC livery with the lightning bolts. Not that it was my favorite color scheme, but just pretty neat looking back in those times. I have an HO Alco PA/PB in that scheme and a freight F7A/B in it as well. They are both now in my retired wall mounted show cases in the Can-Am trainroom. Favorite livery [?] Well, there were many - not just one, believe me. I've ALWAYS liked the AT&SF "war bonnets" in red for passenger and blue for freight. Back when the Chiefs were the flagships of the Santa Fe - those magnificant trains looked soooooooooo cool. As i said, there ARE others - loved the Canadian Pacific maroon/grey with the beaver heralds - . Perhaps a topic in and of itself [?] Enjoy! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 05 July 2005, 14:48:50 Hello everyone. I'll take the usual ice cold, bottomless draught, please. Russ, I really liked the newest pix you posted. The young man on the steps is Rob, who as you stated, got promoted to engineer that morning. If you look up the track behind the train, you will see our NW2 waiting for the train to pull out of town so I could do some switching. Paint schemes. Midland's president owns several locos, 3 of which are ex NYC which he keeps in TN on another demonstration rr. They are painted in lightning stripe and run great. I wish sometime we could go ride them. Sometimes that rr runs 4 E8s together-- what a symphony for the ears!! He used to work for NYC and PC and owns our RS3,also. About any paint scheme created in the early days of diesels by EMD or Alco are great. I wi***here were more color pix existing from that era. Ever since coming to the Midland, I've a special place in my heart for the old Rock Island colors on our E8. Ernie "hooked" me with a cab ride in that loco on our very first jaunt there. Another draught, please. I wonder if the juke box has Johnny Cash singing "Rock Island Line"? Our rr puts out a newspaper every season for distribution to patrons. I hope Russ got one before he left. It is quite informative.
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 05 July 2005, 15:06:02 Afternoon Tom and the gang. Cold house draft with a shaved ham-turkey & provolone on sourdough bread with spicy mustard on the side if you could please. I've been UA of late, too busy investing much hard earned and saved cash for a new home within the last week. I occasionally have the luck of the Irish by finding a 3BD-2bath residence with pool in a upscale area for under 500K. Otherwise, not much on my end. Tom. I finally had the opportunity to review your S project, You have a fantastic concept and great photos to boot , great job with the lightweight base, I'm considering adapting it for my layout, so how about the specifics for the framework. How about scenery, structures? Now that you've taken the plunge into S how does it compare with your other scales, cost aside? Did all have a good 4th? We did a simple BBQ with the wife and family and my recently adopted cannine Leo. Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 July 2005, 15:43:32 For: earlydiesels Dan Frosty cold botomless draught comin' right up! Really "dig" those RS series of loco's. In one of my display cases for retired loco's is an RS2 in NYC livery with lightning stripe. It's an AHM HO beauty - purchased way back in the late 60's and if I recall, the price was under $15! I still have the box .... I should check it out. Anyway, great series of loco's - real or model. We've got just about every hit that Johnny Cash ever had - there's a jar full of quarters right over there - 5 plays for a quarter - help yourself! Here's your refill ...... Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 05 July 2005, 15:46:31 "I never met a livery man I didn't like"(Will Rogers). The only possible exception would be the Florida East Coast Line with that weird shade of violet, purple, wine, burgandy? BTW, Minnie the Moocher (my cat) is a dead ringer for the C & O (Chessie) kitten, same pattern of markings, etc. Minnie keeps about the same hours for r. & r. as well. I'm doing B & O and Southern Rwy (HO) mainly because I love their steam and livery of the Diesels. Probably wondering why I "scratch built" the K.C. Union Station, aren't you... DON'T ASK! It just came naturally. Yes Rob, the old Bromo Seltzer Building is still a prominent landmark in dowtown Baltimore. The architecture appears to be of the early WPA gothic or perhaps late Halloween period. In any case, I rarely use the stuff. Another "shot" will either "kill ya or cure ya." However, do not try this at home! Gunns, I guess my private car lease must be the Georgia 300. She's the closest one to me out of the whole lot and not a shabby looking old gal at that. Hey folks, Gunns just may have something here. How many are we, a dozen? Imagine if we could all find a suitable time frame for "chiping in" and leasing our own car, "coast to coast.?" Everyone could bring their brides to do the cooking and washing while we sit on the open platform waving at the traffic. Yes, I know Tom, I'm awaiting a "pink slip" for that one. Russell, yes indeed the loss of Hank Stram and those heady days in K.C. football will never be forgotten. Bud Wilkinson's name comes to mind along with Ari Parsigan {Sp.?} as well. They just aren't making them anymore! Try to invision their salaries (today) if they were. Is it just me, or have all pro sports lost that personal "connection" to our respective "home towns?" Okay, I've worked-up a powerful thirst here Tom. How about a tall "Bloody Shame Mary," less the garbage? Maybe it will help me remember what day this is, or which planet we're on! I see Boris has been using the meat clever for slicing the lemons and limes again. The ceiling looks for all the world like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon. Two, count 'em, birthdays in July! Nick can use my liver for a sieve by the end of the month. Cheerio Mates, I'm outta here.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 July 2005, 16:13:53 For: West Coast S You're in luck - that spread over there on the buffet table is on the house Fresh bread this AM - meats and cheeses all from yesterday and refrigerated over night. Help yourself! House hunting in California! Yikes. Been there, done that back in the mid-80's in SoCal. Horrible luck as I had to go unaccompanied for what turned out to be my final tour in my 32 year career. Anyway, the prices then would gag a healthy maggot - so when you refer to $500k, I'm surprised that there any in that price range. Well, suck it in Mate - mortgages are like hemorrhoids, everyone gets at least one, sooner or later! Good luck in your new digs! Party at Dave's House! Glad you like the S-gauge progress. Specifics [?]Well, pretty simple actually. I used 2" insulated foam - two 4x8 ft sheets for my 4x7 ft layout. The frame is aluminum "angle iron" with some bracing beneath it all in the form of flat lengths of aluminum stock. When in the "down" position, the whole thing rests on three saw horses - collapsable type - one at either end and one in the middle. The raising and lowering is handled by a 4-point hoisting system manufactured by Harken - http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/scpdinw1.ShowProd?409Z56LC7CH6I - should show you the system I'm using. Now, there's much left to do - landscaping in particular. I'm not going to do much else - probably no buildings, a few trackside "things" - but no room for anything else. This isn't a layout in that sense - this is a play thing primarily for ME. I love the size and am pleased with going with American Models and S-Helper Service for the loco's, track and rolling stock. Transformer is from MRC - dual power AC. Compare you ask [?] For the sheer joy of looking at it - this is fantastic stuff. I think HO is the best for realism across the board. But I've always thought S-gauge was the "right" size for model trains. You say cost aside - well that's hard to eliminate, because it's there, all of the time. This stuff is so darned expensive - those loco's cost 600 percent more than my average costs for one HO loco. No joke. Anyway, I'm happy with what I have - not so with the incomplete status of my order - but that will soon get rectified ...... or else Boris will be taking on a new assignment! Glad to learn you enjoyed your 4th ...... everyone here did, except for Juneau he really was very unsettled with the booms and bangs all weekend. Can't handle the noise. Hope Leo did better. See ya! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 July 2005, 16:24:28 For: Ted HooBoy - bring our brides to do the cooking and washing [?] Are you out of your mind, man [?] Perhaps it would be wiser to just put the twelve of us in a Budd observation dome car - like the V IA Rail Park cars. It would be a blast ..... but cooking and washing, you say [?] We'd have a dining car and of course changes of clothing provided to us along the way ...... fantasy world, here we come! Better count again, Mate - three birthdays this month - count 'em again! Poor Nick he'll be working for that bath tub gin money ...... Ted You're a piece of work, but one that we appreciate having 'round here. Here, take a hair of the dog ....... you seem to be in dire need my friend! Tom TED READS THE SUMMARIES, Do you [?]
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 05 July 2005, 17:17:10 Pool party with West Coast S Is Boris waterproof? It was only 109 degrees in the shade this weekend! Leo didn't take kindly to all the noise, of course he runs at the sight of his own shadow and cowards when he sees himself in the mirror. Tom.. this is my third adventure in owning So Cal property and it ain't getting cheaper by the year. I do plan to sell my LA property to offset the mortage as soon as the right number is offered. After that who can say? I just might retire early and spend my free time harassing the wife and persuing my hobbies. Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 July 2005, 19:29:40 For: West Coast S Dave Water and Boris don't mix - he'd sink like an anchor. However, should he bring his inflatables to the Party!, well I'm sure they'd help keep him afloat ..... Boris ring the bell now - because I'm going [#offtopic]- drinks all around! Real estate and home prices rank right up there on my list of things that annoy me very much: (1) Warm Beer (2) Wet toilet paper (3) Home prices In my varied experiences after retirement - I took two 4 week courses in real estate - one to get a state license for sales, and the second for the broker's license. Why [?] Simply to learn as much as possible regarding why people seem to think that buying and selling homes MUST be handled by someone other than one's self. I never planned to use either of the licenses and wound up pretty much vindicated in my beliefs that one does not need to automatically award a percentage of the sales price to anyone for services rendered when those things surely can be done on one's own. To each his own - I choose to not play the game. No doubt that we've become very much accustomed to contracting out virtually everything that used to be done individually. I've seen mail boxes being replaced by a "service" that specializes in such things. There are very few lawns being cut by homeowners these days and I cannot recall ever seeing a homeowner actually painting his own home. About as rare as dial telephones - all of it. So, when you talk of $500k homes, I'm actually surprised that there are even any at all in that range in an area described by you. We too have homes in that range - but those are top dollar, I can well imagine that in LA, they go much higher indeed. They surely were out of my price range back in the mid-80's when I got transferred out there. Wound up on an unaccompanied tour - my final as it turned out - simply because the homes were outta sight for my wallet. Okay - back to the subject at hand! Drinking! Whatillyahave [?] Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 05 Jul 2005, 20:05:02 Good evening ladies and gentlemen or reasonable facsimilies I'll have an ice cold mug from the tap. Dan, I did some researching in my slide collection, and found one of 142 in JD green taken 5/73 in Parsons, KS. Tom, warm beer and wet TP are definitely two of my least desirables. Did Boris left the beer out and tried to keep them cool by wrapping them in tp? Ted, I'm really interested in seeing a pic of your HO scratch-built Union Station. Kevin-Gunns, hopefully pics of the latest progress on 2926 will be posted soon. Wow, that first one went down smooooth. I'll have another one. Take care, Russell
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 05 Jul 2005, 20:28:42 My suspenders must've got caught on my stool. I'll have another draft. Ted, we in Kansas City are very supportive of our Chiefs. My wife wasn't really a Chiefs fan let alone a football fan until she met me Now the Royals on the other hand...well...it's a very good thing they let the kids run the bases after home games. George Brett has his own restaurant/bar/grill at the Country Club Plaza next door to Arrowhead West (Chiefs memorabilia store). Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 Jul 2005, 22:02:05 For: Trainnut484 Russell That's a great line - suspenders caught on the stool! I've called Missouri home since 1977 and maintained a home here even while assigned elsewhere. Been visiting KCity perhaps on an average of three times a year over that time. Love watching the Royals - don't care about the record - a great baseball park. We used to be fans of the IHL Blades at Kemper Arena. Had lots of fun there .... always have dinner at the Golden Ox before games. Now the UHL Outlaws are trying to keep hockey alive. Don't know whether the fan base will handle it, quite frankly. Couldn't keep the NHL Scouts ...... Now, we'd love to see the Chiefs, but there's just no way to get decent single game tickets. Great football town, no doubt about it. The drive between where I live and downtown is about 3 1/2 hours, obeying the speed limits of course. Don't particularly like I-70. I take the train out there at least twice a year by myself for turn around round trips. Been doing that for about 15 years too. KCity is a nice place to visit. Used to have a couple of friends with the KC PD - got some pretty good "scoop" on places to go, etc. Okay, 'nuf of this ...... [#offtopic] again for me! Ring the bell, Boris and set 'em up. Nite! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 05 Jul 2005, 23:37:11 = Good evening again guys. OOps just missed Tom rats! Russell Thanks for the link I'm going to bookmark that for later perusal. I like the museum type links. It's good to see what everyone else is doing. Ted So the Bromo building is still there. I'll have to look for it the next time I'm in Balt. I think I'll stick with the gavisgone though works a lot quicker and less likely to kill you. BTW I'd love to see picks of your KC union as well, and of that homebuilt streetcar out in your garden as well. And you say Gunns and I are the building hero's. Modeling is just as important. Westcoast Congrats on the house but wow, I could by 4 here for 500K. Sounds like SoCal a lot like Toronto real estate wise. You can't get much that's livable anyway in Toronto for under 350K and that would be at least a 50 yr old house without a lot of property. Hearing the baseball stories makes me remember that my dad and I were at the game in Toronto when George Brett was thrown out for the pine tar homerun. That was 84 or 85 can't remember now. Wow I'm way [#offtopic] Tonight. Think I'll buy around and head out. The museum beckons tomorrow, I'm supposed to get some PCC training in. (got to keep up ones ticket ) As long as the rain holds off we should have a good day. So Tom I'm willing it in your direction as I hate working outside in the rain. Later gents. Rob
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 06 July 2005, 06:30:01 Good mornin' everybody, Boris how about two five minute eggs mounted on a toasted English, hash browns and a side of that delicious Canadian Bacon Rob brought from the Ontario Hinterlands. Thanks, but no Florida O.J., "familiarity breeds contempt." Tom and Russell, it looks like we three definitely agree on K.C. and its' environs from the Stadium to the Golden Ox. The Country Club Plaza is always a "Hit" during Christmas season. I used to ride the Country Club street car from 39th St. and Main to the Plaza and remember the wonderful aroma by the Wish Bone bistro. Well, the pressure is on for me to get off my "rusty, dusty " and send some pix of my humble efforts. I still haven't sprung for a digital camera but I suppose there is no way out, any suggestions? Every time I get the urge, I think of what the money could purchase in rolling stock. Russ and Rob don't expect too much from my K.C. Union Station. It is a "Front" only as I haven't the space for the entire structure. The grand concourse, by necessity, projects from the front of the bldg. and on a lower level than the prototype. It may take a while to "get it together" but at least now pix are on the "front burner." The Interurban (Radial) G gauge (1:30), still needs a trolley pole which I'll get to a.s.a.p.! Hey, you young "whippersnappers" are rattling these old bones. Its okay, after yesterday I know "its later than I think it is." Any input on the digital camera and the proper color for the Santa Fe Palace Car (circa 1890) will be gratefully appreciated. Meanwhile Rob, here is a Web site I stumbled into via Google: North American Vintage Trolley Association. You probably know about it but "just in case." Also, www.tecolinestreetcar.org for local Tampa street car info. (double truck Birney clones). OHH Gad Boris, where did you have these eggs vulcanized? Never mind, I have work to do before the tropical Sun turns me into a raisin. So long for now, happy rails, Ted
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 06 July 2005, 07:20:27 Good morning all. Boris, I'll have coffee and a Belgian waffle. No eggs for now. Ted, the late 1800s are out of my model and knowledge range. I've found something though that might be useful, try this link; http://atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Passenger/CoachGreen.htm Another link you might try which has more options; http://www.qstation.org/atsfresource.html#Passenger Now, for a digital camera, it depends on how much you want to spend. You can get a great 3 to 5 megapixel digital camera in the $200-$400 range. Almost all digital cameras come with a memory card and batteries, but the memory card can only hold about 10-15 pictures, and the batteries only last so long since digital cameras eat a lot of batteries. I recommend getting rechargeable batteries and a memory card that can hold about 40-80 pictures. Those will add an extra $100 or so depending on the memory card, but well worth it in the long run in terms of saving a ton of money in batteries and film. Also, most digital cameras come with USB cables for downloading pictures from camera to computer, and cables to hook directly to tv to instantly view pictures. Walmart and one hour photo places can develop your digital prints. Canon and Nikon make great digital cameras. Sonys are ok, but they have their own memory cards and are sometimes not available where convenient. I think all that's good to get you started. I don't want to overload you with too much info. Boris, more coffee please. Take care, Russell
QUOTE: Originally posted by Theodorebear Russell, yes indeed the loss of Hank Stram and those heady days in K.C. football will never be forgotten. Bud Wilkinson's name comes to mind along with Ari Parsigan {Sp.?} as well. They just aren't making them anymore! Try to invision their salaries (today) if they were.[:O] Is it just me, or have all pro sports lost that personal "connection" to our respective "home towns?"[:(]
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 09:56:30 Good Morning all and Happy 4th. I'll take a coffee and a couple of doughnuts. I had a great time yesterday (Sunday) at the Midland RR (Baldwin City). Got to meet Dan-earlydiesels in person. Thanks Dan for your hospitality . Also pass along thanks to Ernie and the other members of the crew working that day. The MKT RS3M looked great. Hopefully the rain holds its cork till after the fireworks displays tonight. Mother Nature provided her own fireworks display late afternoon into late last night. Can you believe its been almost 30 years (29 excactly) that the railroads celebrated the nation's centennial? Here's a reminder Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 11:18:04 Russell You have just experienced one of the benefits of "Our" Place through the connection with Dan ... that's great! Donuts [?] Surely you read all about the free lunch today, etc. But, the freshly baked goods from The Mentor Village Bakery are right over there, next to the coffee urns. Help yourself ...... Nice photos, by the way! Happy 4th to all! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 11:37:20 All of our regulars know about the Birthday Watch List .... however, it needs to be posted repeatedly, just as a reminder regarding who is coming up next for the Birthday Bash ...... BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST: March 5th (Nick – 45) April 18 (Al - 63) May 18th (Tom - 67) May 27th (Dave - 46) June 24th (Dan - 43) July 15th (*** – 65) July 25th (Chris - 51) August 16th (Ted - 67) September 8th (Rob - 34) Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year). Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 13:06:31 Hello all and again Happy 4th. Tom, I think I'll take you up on that free lunch . I indeed had a great time at the Midland. Dan and crew took me to Nowhere and back (you have to ask Dan). Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 13:35:54 Hey Russell Glad you came back! I see that the free lunch has attracted the Can-Am track gang (as usual!) - but, they are a great bunch of guys and as long as we keep 'em in the back room with the pool tables, and plenty of pitchers of brew - all's well. Too happy a day for anything to break out ..... I hope either you or Dan provides us with a rundown of your day .... Enjoy! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 14:59:29 Good Day All Well since its the fourth of July I will start with a double Crown Royal and water back. Remembered one of the streamlined trains in my book was inaugurated as a streamliner using all Budd equipment on July 4, 1949. The Train was the NYC OHIO STATE LIMITED operating overnight between New York and Cincinnati. Actually the first eastbound only operated on July fourth and the second westbound. For train makeup the following were the consists on July fourth WB from Harmon 4024 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit 4109 EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit 8974 Baggage 19 Crew Dormitory Car 2940 56-seat Coach 2942 56-seat Coach 2944 56-seat coach 2946 56-seat coach 485 22-seat lounge Kitchen Car 405 64-seat Dining Car Rapid Stream 6-Double Bedroom Bar 22-seat Lounge Car Putnam Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Eden Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Monroe Harbor 22-Roomette Sleeping Car Onandaga Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Lebanon Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Pine Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Fall Brook 5-Double Bedroom Bar 25-Seat Lounge Observation EB from Cincinnati 4028 EMD E7A 2,000HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit 4111 EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit 8973 Baggage 19-Crew Dormitory Car 2941 56-Seat Coach 2943 56-Seat Coach 2945 56-Seat Coach 2947 56-Seat Coach 486 22-Seat Lounge Kitchen Car 407 64-Seat Dining Room Car Rainbow Stream 6-Double Bedroom Bar 22-Seat Lounge Car Yosemite Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Cumberland Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Tonawanda Harbor 22-Roomette Sleeping Car Schoharie Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Orchard Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Mohawk Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Plum Brook 5-Double Bedroom Bar 25-Seat Lounge Observation Well thats it from me today but at least their was one famous streamliner that began on the fourth of July. Now its time for another round and the sandwiches are looking good too.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 16:41:48 For: passengerfan Al - Good seeing you this fine day! Crown and a sandwich - why not [?] 15-car passenger consists just brings a smile to my face - can envision it almost as if it was passing right in front of me. What was the livery of that particular train [?]Those NYC lightning bolts were really impressive ..... I liked them best with PA's ...... Sure brings back some memories. Never rode that particular train - but every now and then used to go up to Albany and return to NYC just for fun ........ great scenery back then. Enjoy the day! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 19:04:28 Hello everyone. I'll take one of those cold, bottomless draughts, please. I'll raise my glass in tribute to all veterans and propose a moment of silence for those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Without their selfless sacrifice, our founding fathers dreams of a country would have been a short lived experiment. Thanks. It was nice to meet Russ yesterday. I am glad he enjoyed himself. I rode the second train of the day in a coach and was surprised when our conductor said the engineer (G.M.) hollered at me on the radio. I was on the ground at our endpoint helping the patrons detrain and was informed about Russ's presence in the cab. I rode back with Russ and tried to talk but my voice doesn’t carry well, especially in the cab of a working EMD with the doors open! After arrival back at Baldwin, we were able to talk some more and Russ was probably able to check out more of our equipment. When you were leaving, Russ, I was in the cab of the switcher and we were preparing to do some switching to put back in the train the other Canadian coach for the Thomas the Tank event. We also pulled all the cabooses out of the runaround track and shoved them north out of the way so our track gang could hopefully fini***he track. I realize you were running late but had you stayed, you could have rode with me in the 524 while switching. To me, switching is more fun than even running all 11 miles with the passenger train. I'll take another ice cold, bottomless draught, please. What's this about free food?? The photos were nice, Russ. Ernie is our official photographer among all his other duties, so rare is the photo with him in it. Wish he had a computer. Hope you can come out again. The invitation is still open to anyone of the OUR PLACE gang to ride the Midland.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 19:50:32 Hey Dan Lookin' good on that stool! Free lunch all day - right over there on the two buffet tables ....... help yourself! Fireworks starts soon out back ....... I think that's a great thing for you to do regarding the open invitation to "Our" Place customers to experience the Midland Railway. Hope to get out there myself, maybe with a friend or two ........ Enjoy the night! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 20:08:26 Tom the livery of the NYC Ohio State limited was the grey with lightening stripes on thge diesel but the cars were all stainless steel from Budd. Pretty impressive fifteen car trains you are right but before that summer was over they had grown to eighteen cars regularly and winters the consist averaged about twelve during the fifties. By the sixties the consists were ten or less summers and eight ofr less winters and then they started combining the trains with other trains between NY and Buffalo - Cleveland. Then the NYC began selling cars to the NdeM and Canadian National as they were surplus to their dwindling needs.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 20:28:54 Quote Evening passengerfan Al - Can hardly hear myself think with the noise of this place and the fireworks going off outside ....... Appreciate the info on the NYC ..... I can't remember the last time I traveled aboard a passenger train in the U.S. that had 15 cars, much less 12. With VIA Rail in Canada, it's commonplace, as you well know. A question regarding the NYC oval ... did they use a different motiff for passenger as opposed to freight [?] Back in those times when attracting the public's attention through the magazine ads and billboards was a huge part of passenger railroad advertising, I recall seeing different NYC ovals for passenger in those ads than appeared on the freght ads. Thoughts [?] Enjoy the night! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 23:28:59 Good evening folks. I hope everyone had a safe holiday. I'm reposting this as it's attempy yesterday was snatched away by the computer gremlins.Tom I've always liked Keiths I first sampled it in Halifax when my sister and her hubby were living out there.I go for it whem I'm in an ale mood. A thought if you are going for an non operating traction line,you might as well grab a length of the ORR track custom made girder rail. It's expensive to do a whole layout with it but for a little piece why not? Of coarse Ted's suggestion would look quite good as well. www.customtraxx.com . Ted I like the royal order idea sounds catchy. Of course to use the term "ROYAL" in an organizations name you need royal approval. Good thing Nick is a member he could present our petition maybe. Speaking of which glad your back online Nick. A good thing too because Boris was itching to take over the chefs picks on fish night. He mentioned something about whipping up spider goulash early Nice shot of the RS I have never gotten use to the genetically modified Alco diesels. The first I remember seeing was on my one trip out to BC. CPR chopped the noses on their RS2's and some RS3's for humpyard service. The BCR also repowered a couple of RS18's with cat engines and the ended up with big wing like radiators ala GE locomotives quite odd looking. Still it's nice to see so much vintage equipment still putting in time for everyones enjoyment. passenger Al Let me know when the books ready to be printed. Our museum's gift shop speaciallizes in selling rail books and videos. We would likely order quite a few. Passenger rail books sell quite well in the shop along side the traction and Ian Wilson's CNR steam series. Gunns How is the drill press modifications coming. I wasn't quite straight on how you were doing it. Did you say that you were leaving the trucks on the tender while you were prepping them for the new bearings? I'm just wondering if you can take the trucks off and set them up on their sides (braced of course ) could you not bore with the drill press is it's usual vertical stance or are the parts to big ? Well folks enjoy the rest of the fire works. I'll check in with you all tomorrow. Rob
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 05 July 2005, 08:02:56 Was it Ms Columbine that stated: "There are no cyber hang-overs?" If that is true; I just made medical history! Between the J.Daniels and the bombastic fireworks; my "frontal-lobotomy" is now pending [aside: or, is that: "bottle-in-front-of-me?"] Please Tom, just a Bromo Seltzer, "shaken-not stirred," if you will?. Rob, I can't take credit for the "Royal Order of the Permanent Stools" idea. That honor belongs to Passengerfan Al's penchent for prose. Tom mentioned that the "idea" is just now in Committee. Perhaps, as you said, Nick might use his influence at his next audience with the Queen on this matter. Yes, the famous "lightning stripes" (N.Y.C.) livery is a favorite of mine also. However, I prefer the two tone gray smooth sides cars and the 2 level stripes on the boat tail Observation. Also, the EMD, E-6 A-units (bevel nose) get my vote; it's "right up there" with the Santa Fe War Bonnets.[ Sorry Russ, I just had to say it! Hey Gunns, that aaprco.com site is a "Keeper.} Thanks for sending it along. Tom, your "show case" idea is duly noted and a possibility. For now, I'll just park the Pullman Palace on a siding (next to turntable) as a leased Business Car. Oh, I don't know if you might consider a Mono Rail (downtown) should you decide to "take the plunge" for "light rail?" My "return" on the next Fourth was in regard to the , not "Our" Place. [aside: Some people like me just can't take a hint] Here it is Wednesday (trash day) and we haven't begun to to remove the top layer of last night's refuse! It truly was an inspiring party though, especially when Boris posed as the Statue of Liberty with a Roman Candle in his raised right hand. I understand he will be wearing a toupee pending natural hair growth. Any rate, I doubt if his laytex "Playboy Bunnys" will object very much. Okay, let's get started on last night's carnage before Clueless sends "Mentor's Finest" after us. So long for now, Ted
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