QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 07 July 2005, 12:47:26 Tom--The name "Housekeep" is a local term referring to an innkeeper or proprieter of an eating and drinking estabishment. No offense meant. My heart goes out to the good citizens of greater London who lost or had injured friends or loved ones in the tragic events this morning. I only ask that we do not ru***o judgment and blame some ethnic or religous group for this horrible act. Let MI-6 do their work then let Queen's Bench do their work. Justice will be served in due course. It truly is a sad day. ***
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 07 July 2005, 13:01:30 For: *** No offense taken - it's just that in some places I've frequented, referring to the bartender or proprietor as the Housekeep might have gotten one thrown out in physical terms. Whether it be vandalism in the neighborhoods or the more violent acts witnessed in New York City, WashDC and now London, the cowards who skulk in the shadows of free societies will get theirs. My hope is that the resolve of the free world will become even greater, thereby denying further foot holds for these vermin. Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 07 July 2005, 15:07:48 Afternoon Tom and the gang.. A sad day indeed..Thoughts and prayers to those in London. We stand united as one in your time of trial. They who seek to destroy our way of life will not prevail. Did some research into Palace Cars on the Santa Fe overnight . Palace car service was only available on the DE Lux California Limited in 1896 through 1902. Only three Palace cars were assigned from the STATE and GERONIMO series . All were constructed as 10 section-double drawing rooms known as the STATE series constructed and shared equally among the Monon and Chicago Great Western and so named for the states in which they operated. The GERONIMO was also one in a series on ten, shared equally among the Santa Fe, Rock Island & Southern Pacific and named after regional specifics. With the exception of those assigned to the WABASH CANNONBALL, all wore traditional Pullman green with special order high sheen varnish finish with gold fillegree, stripping and lettering. Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 07 July 2005, 17:49:19 Hi Dave Somber day indeed. Super saturated media coverage aside, if the best thing to come out of this is solidarity - that can only help to defeat these vermin. Appreciate your stopping by - been a real slow day 'round here. Got some model railroading done today ... my S-Trax order finally was made complete. Was able to wire up those 8 turnouts - beneath the board of course, and connect the passing siding along with the parallel sidings. Still missing my insualted rail joiners and if it wasn't so darned aggravating, it would be funny. Unbelievable how this S-gauge transaction has been screwed up. Oh well, as I told the guy who handled the sale, "Whether it's a $300k house, a $40k automobile or $2k worth of model trains, shame on me for expecting excellence." Nevertheless, the progress is moving forward and once I get those insulators, I'll be able to run the trains between ovals using my dual power AC transformer. Then comes the landscaping ....... By the way, Dave when it comes to trackside kinds of things, who do you recommend as a manufacturer? S-gauge/scale seems awfully hard to find when it comes to structures. I'm not planning anything involved - just something trackside ...... relay houses, work sheds, etc. See ya! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 07 July 2005, 19:19:33 Good afternoon Tom I've not reached the linside detail stage yet, here's what I have discovered in planning for such an event . HO semaphore signals can have the mast extended 10% to arrive at S scale, HO switch stands are more prototypical when used for S as well. I've read of adapting HO structures and such by changing doorways if so desired or you could place in locations some distance from obvious s scale detail to fool the eye. Of course they would be just as easy to build from scratch as a one or two evening project to your design at the right price. Do a search for Bill's Train Shop also known as BTS and Grandt line for specific S scale details. Also think outside the box, don't dismiss anything HO or Sn3 or On30 you might fine what you are looking for. Try this for your insulated joiner dilemma: Get some 0.20 tor 0.40 styrene, cut a plug to fit in the rail ends, butt align track sections, secure roadbed and track to foam as needed to maintain correct gauge, secure plug with ACC or epoxy , wait to dry and file to the shape of the rail, instant insulated joints. I raise my glass to those suffering tonight. Dave
QUOTE: siberiarnmo Posted: 07 July 2005, 19:50:28 Evening Dave Have one on me ['tup] ....... Fish 'n Chips night and it looks like we're going to be stuck with lot of food! The gals are all here - but hardly anyone in the back room. Expect the night crowd shortly ........ Appreciate the tip regarding insulated joiners. Problem is that I paid for 'em and they either get sent or I get a credit. This has been going on for weeks .... Appreciate the tip regarding insulated joiners. Problem is that I paid for 'em and they either get sent or I get a credit. This has been going on for weeks .... The S-Trax does not have tubular rails - they are solid and held together much the same as HO, with rail joiners. But, thanx anyway for the idea ... at first seemed like a fitting solution! [swg] I've done so much web browsing that I'm bleary eyed. I knew about the adaptations form HO, Sn3 and On30 - also 0-27. However, I'm not looking for stations, houses, towers and the like. Just the little stuff alolng the right-of-way. I saved lots of "stock" from the building kits used on my Can-Am HO layout, so improvision isn't an issue at all. Probably will resort to that after all. However, I'll check out BTS - already knew about Grandt Line ....... [tup] My little pike will be a landscaped affair - giving the impression of always being "away" from developed areas. Am looking forward to getting at it ...... Uh oh, I hear the Can-Am track gang approaching ........ good for business! Have another Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 07 Jul 2005, 21:25:52 Good Evening All Guess I'll have my usual Crown with a water back and a round for the house. Truly saddened by today’s events on the other side of the pond. Working diligently on book stands at 269 pages this evening. Like the S-gauge more every time I look at your slides love that IC EMD E8A. Guess I will have to rent the apartment next door if my book sells to build a S-gauge layout. Will keep this brief this evening as I may get a page or two more book in.
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 07 Jul 2005, 23:54:34 Hello and good evening everyone. Just tea I think Tom. First off I have to say how saddened I am for the events in Britain. Here's hoping the perpetrators are caught and swiftly dealt with. Ted thank-you for the link and email clarification. i haven't dug too deeply into the site yet but it is nice to see the new "vintage" Birney's. Everyone take a peak at the site Ted posted a couple of pages back interesting stuff. The only thing I'll add to your digital quest is that try to look for a camera with a docking station, it's a charging stand that has the direct to computer download cables included. Handy charge and download at the same time. I believe it's Poloroid cameras that have these Tom Your’re probably right on the local of the Brett incident, something similar happened at Exhibition Stadium as well, now I'm just confused. gunns Glad to hear of the further progress, I have to say the needle gunning isn't fun. I had a whirl at it myself two years ago. We were working on the track plows trucks prior to reassembly and painting. westcoast Nice to hear about that car being saved, nice to know that private citizens will undertake that kind of work, won't likely be cheap. I know our Museum is looking at a $250,000 rebuild of TRC 1326 our first car if we ever want to get her completely back in service. she's an all wood car that needs complete off body restoration from the frame up. She's fine structurally as a static piece but isn't up to snuff for regular running. This is of course a backburner job at the moment, but we would like to see it done. Chris Glad you had a good first excursion. I would highly recommend that anyone going to Montreal go to the Delson Museum. Something for everyone steam, diesel, traction passenger and freight cars, it's a really amazing spot. One day there hardly suffices. I know that our museum has had lots of dealings with them over the years, really good people to work with. Passengerfan Sounds like the book's sailing right along that's good news I have only had contact with the old NYC streamline cars in the VIA "Blue" years. Road in a few of the coaches over the years. The only NYC car that I have constant contact with is the "Dorcas Bay" I think that's the CN / VIA name. It's the sleeper car that we have at the Museum, oddly enough we use it as a sleeper for our crews when they stay over at night. We haven't regauged the trucks yet, if that happen and we get either L2 or 335 operational it may get pulled up and down the line as a piece of revenue equipment that could be fun ! Well folks Wed at the museum was long and tiring hence why I didn't pop in yesterday, helped do a field oiling of open car 327 controller , motors , and babbit bearings in the truck interesting. It was the first time that I had seen inside of a K type controller, simple rugged construction, bullet proof really. Anyway I'm away for now. All those in the way of weather watch yourselves and everyone keep your poles on the wire. Rob
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 08 July 2005, 01:57:51 Hi all, at work here and BZY <in the midst of our annual alignment on my UPS, all 7 tons of it> Coffee please, I'll drop a couple of pics, this is My Engine/genarator set 550 KW. This me in My simpit. <for a game called Aces High a MMOG> later, Gunns
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 06 July 2005, 09:46:06 Good morning all again. Barkeep, I'll take a cup of coffee. I'll take it easy on Boris lol I'm going [#offtopic] again. Shee***hat sounds like the bell for Lurch or a foghorn with a bad cold For Tom, I don't know how many megapixels your camera is, but 350 pictures with room to spare on one 128 card is stretching it some, unless you lowered the resolution on your camera to 1 megapixel or you do have a 1 megapixel camera. 1 Gigabyte cards can hold 350+ pictures depending on the resolution (megapixels) on a digital camera. Not only are Walmart and 1 hour photo places are cheaper, but printing at least 200 pictures on a digital printer would take about two or three hours, and a couple of ink cartridges. No thanks on the refill. One more cup of coffee and I'll burst LOL Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 July 2005, 10:02:25 Hey Russell Camera is Sony DSC-S75 3.3 Megapixel and my image size is 1280 x 960. This isn't the first time I've exceeded 350 photo's on those sticks. Also, my digital printer does not use ink cartridges ... everything needed is included in with the paper pack. I set it up to run - go away and do what I want, and the pix are ready for me. No sweat. It's just a matter of preference - to each his own, right [?] Okay - now, let's move on to the subject around here - which is Classic Trains - real or model will do fine, Gents! I can't afford too many more freebies ....... Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 06 July 2005, 13:10:24 Morning Tom and the gang.. If you spell me awhile i'd like to weigh in on Ted's request, I have a Pullman paint guide from around 1900 that should clear up the matter as to color. The Palace cars assumed legendary status far in excess of the actual number built. A short history of the palace Pullman Car: Practically all were hand built to customer's specifications and configurations, open/closed vestibules,typically in the 80-85 foot over couplers with one example being 92 feet, finished and furnished to the customers requirement. The Pallace Cars were a victim of changing times in American railroading and made obsolete by 1900 due to evolving safety requirements and cost to build, maintain and operate , their wooden frames/sills and Allen Patent Paper Rivited Wheels assured a short life as the carbuilders switched over to steel. The palace would be found only on a few select railroads Most roads loathed operating them as they were giants of the rails during a time when 60 foot cars were considered standard. To my knowledge none survived for future preservation, but I could be wrong if a series of slides I shot 1978 in Colorado prove otherwise. I don't know the history of the car I located being used as a residence or if it still exist. But, without a doubt it had Allen Paper Wheels and rivited trucks. Gives one pause to consider perhaps one did transcend time . Speaking of finds, a number of years a hilltop lot was sold in the San Fernando Valley, the house was in utter ruin, no problem as the new owners planned to clear the property. After clearing heavy brush, lo and behold the outbuilding turned out to be a de-trucked SP 60 foor Harriman RPO in fair condition. The owners took out an ad in the LA Times seeking the services of someone who could remove it. A informal group of preservationist I associate with made contact with the owner with the idea of recording its history, we have no means to remove the owner was advised. After convincing them we didn't escape from Wadsworth, they granted permission to be on their property to do a detailed study. As our findings progressed the owners began to take a keen interest in the car inquiring as to its history and the feisibilty of restoring it as a guest house. The end result was the owners decided not to remove and scrap and are in the process of locating some orginal interior fittings and furniture to complete the restoration. Hail, one more for railway preservation! Tom what do you recommend for lunch this fine day? Dave
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 06 July 2005, 13:13:53 Good Morning All Guess I will Have a Crown and water back. We have good news on the home front in California today the Budget passed and only six days into the new fiscal year must be some kind of Record. The best news is the transportation package passed untouched so that is good news for Amtrak California, ACE, and the other commuter rail agencies. Rail was a very big part of the transportation package both additional Surfliners and California Cars are included plus the first overnight sleeping cars to be owned by any state not sure whether they are going to be California Cars or Surfliner cars. Proposed overnight route is along coast line and second route is along old San Joaquin route. Should be in service within two years. Good news for the state. Good news for travelers and good news for the railfan community . When I hear more news on the additional cars will let you know.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 July 2005, 13:36:03 For: West Coast S Dave Nice info exchange going on - that's one of the pluses of this thread, don't ya think [?] Lunch [?]ALWAYS go with those great subs/grinders/heros/jhoagies - freshest meats in the county and freshly baked bread from The Mentor Village Bakery - wash it down with a couple of brews and you'll not want to return to work! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 July 2005, 13:38:25 For: passengerfan Al That IS good news - as said here previously, California leads the nation in commitment to passenger rail. Can always count on you for the rail scoop! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 July 2005, 13:43:10 [size=3]AN INVITATION TO VIEW TED'S FANTASY CAN-AM RAIL JOURNEY[/size=[3] Click on this url: http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber Then go to pages 5 and 6 - look for Ted's Fantasy Can-Am Journey and follow them sequentially .......{click to enlarge the first pix, then use the >> to advance through the rest of 'em) Enjoy! [tup] Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 06 July 2005, 16:30:45 Good to be back in Texas. My how we filled up our pages in just one short week-six pages. Glad to be out of Libya. We like water and grass and there is not too much of it there. Yes, they have the Mediterranian Sea, which I could see from my hotel. A little humor. Getting out of Tripoli is an ordeal. There are twelve, yes 12, checks of your documents from the time you get out of the car until you enter the plane. Even xrayed the luggage 3 times. The plane makes one round trip from London to Tripoli per day with one hour on the ground to turn around. On the way down two of the three restrooms broke. They delayed the departure 2 1/2 hours in an attempt to fix the rest room. No luck. Rather than cancel the flight and leave us in no mans land in the airport BA flew back to London with only one operable restroom. They asked each of us to use the airport facilities before boarding. My seat was in row 3 near the one operable restroom. Initially I was charging 50 pence to use our restroom with the price increasing to £5 as the flight went on. Managed to collect £38.50 this way. Some one in the back cut into my business by selling plastic bottles. I did get a triple gin on the return flight. All for now. Have to catch my commuter train. Cheers, ***
QUOTE: purplejude Posted: 06 July 2005, 16:41:25 Hi, I am a brand new member, have been looking for a website for railfans. Have been very depressed since hearing congress may eliminate Amtrak. Has there been any good news? I have been a huge railfan, mostly passenger trains since the 1950's!!!
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 July 2005, 17:23:15 Hello purplejude and [#welcome] to "Our" Place. This is an adult cyber bar 'n grill where the discussion focuses on Classic Trains. As you will find out, Kalmbach has provided all of us with many forums to discuss our favorite aspects of railroading - whether they be real or modeling. So do yourself a service, and check them all out. By the way, I noticed that your profile doesn't really tell us much about you .. .check mine if you'd like. It helps to "know" who we're talking to. Just click on my cyber name - siberianmo. We have a few guys conversant with Amtrak and I'm sure that if you come back, you'll find the information beginning to flow. Around here, my suggestion for you and anyone else new to this thread (that's what we call topics - threads) is to go to page 1 and go through all of the pages, if for no ohter reason that to determine whether this discussion is what you would like to participate in. If so, we'd love to have you around here! See ya! [tup][swg] Tom (Siberianmo) Proprietor of "Our" Place
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 06 July 2005, 17:27:42 Welcome to "Our Place" Purplejude, let me the first to offer to some cool refreshments. What will it be? Have you met Tom yet? . If its classic trains and railroading you've come to right place, I don't follow Amtrak, I guarantee someone here does however. Welcome aboard Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 July 2005, 17:28:30 For: *** [#welcome] Home! Now that you are back in the good old U.S.A. it's time to get back to the subject matter ........ Classic Trains!. Globe trotting exploits are fine, and we've appreciated your reports, but you are a wealth of info regarding our topic. So, take a deep breath, and let's get with it. [swg] Catch up using the SUMMARIES! Friday, the 15th, is YOUR Birthday Bash. PLEASE - please let us know what time you plan to be on line (CDST) so that we can coordinate as much of the fun as possible. It is your day after all. [tup] By the way, I didn't catch your order. Whatillyahave [?] Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 06 Jul 2005, 20:41:32 Good Evening everyone, I can't stay long but I want to thank Tom, Russ, Dave for your input on the respective inquiries in my last Post. It’s good to have you back ***. My flights on B.A. weren't much better than yours. Looking forward to your Birthday the 15th. Great news passengerfan Al at least one out of fifty States is doing something right! Hey Gents, if you haven't taken my "cyber dream" rail trek on the Can-Am; I highly recommend it. My body temp. must have dropped 20 deg. F. in that pristine Fall/Winter setting. The scenery, Moose, Deer, Beaver, Mallards and Geese abound in the lush forrests. Don't miss it. Oh, you might want to skip Don's hot dog stand however. No offense purplejude but AmTrak ain't never been as good as Can-Am. Okay, a 'round for all please Tom and I really gotta get back to the urban renewal project on my HO Pike. Happy rails to all, Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 Jul 2005, 21:19:37 For: Ted Was beginning to wonder if ANYONE had read the post regarding your fantasy trip with the Can-Am RR. Glad you enjoyed it. For those who haven't a clue with regard to what Ted is referring to, check out the post near the top of this page (42) ........ Whatillyhave [?] Can't just pop in here without ordering something! Tom TED READS THE SUMMARIES, Do You [?]
QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 06 Jul 2005, 23:13:36 Good evening to all the regulars here in Our Place. Tom, a cold Alex’s please, no glass. I’m sorry I missed Dan’s birthday the 24th June. Hope you had a good one. Earlydiesel, where is the Midland RR ? Do you have a Day out with Thomas over there? Russell, nice pics of RS3- Emd mix. We do have some strange looking locos around here too. Now I’ll sit on my stool and tell you about my first sortie since I got out of the hospital. I went with my son Thomas at the Delson train museum today. I think I shot at least 100 digital pics. There is something for everyone of the regulars and as soon as I get my USB camera cable from the office I will send pictures of my visit. There was many streetcars, trolleys and the likes for Rob, and we had a couple of rides in a beautifully restored wooden car while Thomas sat beside the conductor! For Tom, I took pictures of a CP Budd dome-observation Park car under restoration, and 2 Budd ex-CP RDCs. For Nick, we have here a Mallard type lettered for the Flying Scottsman, a 4-6-2, and ON’s RS-3, I climbed aboard a perfectly restored CP’s 2-10-4 SELKIRK, a CN’s big Northern, and many many more steam engines and passenger cars, heavyweights and even some all-wood century old cars! And diesels: 2 Alcos FA-1, a CP’s Trainmaster built in Kingston by CLC, a CN F-7A, a VIA FP-9A, old U-boats, a gigantic and fully operational MLW’s C- 640 (Alco), etc, On our way back we saw a CP freight with a Union Pacific SD between 2 CP locos (too far to identify...) which is very unusual around Montreal. As soon as I get my USB cable back from the office I will try to post or email the pictures. BTW Tom the N de M electric loco you saw on a siding near highway 20 is still there at the GE-Hydro shops for repairs, it’s been there for a long time with some Alco switchers and a RS-18, and a couple of U-18B!!! (ex- Maine Central?) Hope you guy's had a good 4th of July, I was unable to get on-line with AOL yesterday... Got to go to bed now, see you later, and don’t forget to keep your stick on the ice! Chris, (a Western Pacific fan that never saw one in person...)
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 06 Jul 2005, 23:19:53 Hi All, Cold bottomless one for me, Not too much for today’s work day, mostly making tools and hacking away at the builders plate pattern. How ever Travis <a NMSL&RHS member> is bringing me a disk of recent pics of the work, I'll get them up tomrrow. Wednesday, 06,05 Work, continues on the Tender trucks, Needle scaling on brake rigging, mounting plates for the brake cyls. were reinstalled on truck 13, the cyl hone for the tender cyls has been completed, cyls will be honed and new rubber cups will be fitted. Work on the pattern for the Builders Plate is nearing completion. Drawings and folios continue to be transferred to CD-Rom. More to come, Gunns
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 07 July 2005, 06:37:03 Hooorah! Sounds to me like Chris has made a dramatic "turn around" You see Chris; all of those "Toasts" to your health by "Our" Place Clientele was not in vain. Great to hear you are catching-up on "quality time" with Thomas and Family. It is early Tom but this is a special occasion; a 'round for all of "the willing," please. Chris, some new faces: Gunns, TrainNut are steady contributors and PurpleJude dropped in to "test the waters." Tom, it looks as though this Thread has reached the point of "critical mass." There logically will be some individual Posts that seem to be, well, exclusive for one or another esoteric subject. However, I have great faith that this "membership" will not allow "Our " Place to collapse under its' own weight. I'm going out today to check on the "tech" end for uploading pix before it gets hotter than Boris' "Gloria" (Latex Bunny). We have an univited guest on the way, Dennis, a.k.a. "Wind Bag." I'm all set from last years' onslaught for a quick "board-up." Now, would be a good time for that AmTrak excursion...to Canada, not New Orleans! An old friend needs a ride home from the Chevy agency right now. So, if you could pour me a "bracer" of Anisette, I would appreciate it Tom. U.S. 19 (Fl.) isn't called "Kamikaze Road" for nothing. Be back a.s.a.p. with something actually "on topic." Hey, keep those SUMMARIES happening Tom. We wouldn't know whether to take a "dump" or "draw small stores" without them! Happy rails You's guys.
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 07 July 2005, 07:49:03 Glad to be in "safe" old Dallas. Welcome to our group PURPLEJUDE. I am sure that you will find it enjoyable as I have. We are a fun group who keeps from slurring other people and things. Tom, our housekeep, will more than ply you with good liquid and solid refreshments. While we are at it, Tom, could I have a strong cup of coffee and a Danish? It is a little too early to hit the hard stuff. Thanks, Tom. Ah my birthday. How about 9AM central time for the bash on Friday July 15. I will be on then and will be letting off a little steam. I think I am going to request hazardous pay. As you know I am going to London on July 16 for a week of work. After what happened on the Underground and busses this morning hazardous pay is definitely warranted. I will be using, if they are back in service, the lines and stations that were bombed. London has a great transit system and I enjoy using it extensively. Have toured several of their facilities and even rode from Westminster to Stratford three months before the line opened. We rode on a work train. This line goes through the Docklands area and is laid out with minimal curves as opposed with the rest of the Underground. Remember that the Underground is over 125 years old. The new line has some of the highest speeds anywhere on the Underground. The terminus, Stratford, also is a station on British Rail, Docklands Light Railway, and the Central line. Tourists constantly go to the Stratford station and ask where Shakespeare's house is located. The answer is about 200 miles north as it is at Stratford on Avon, not Stratford. Cheers, ***
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