Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Let’s see, we’ll play some old favorites: “If the Phone Don’t Ring, You’ll Know It’s Me;” “You’re The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly,” and one of Boris’s all timers, “I’ve Had a Churnful of Chitlins and a Belly Full of You.”
My goodness, it was fun logging into the forum this a.m. It’s acting like George McClellan when he commanded the Army of the Potomac and had a bad case of “the slows.”
Lots of great material yesterday and thanks to everyone. I really could not contribute much, but I sure learned a lot.
Nick – Somerset and Dorset post was informative. BTW, Prescott’s Conquest of Mexico and Conquest of Peru are better than any !@##$ novel. I agree with you about the names.
Mike provided a raft of URLs and commentary. The two volume edition Annotated Sherlock Holmes has a raft of material on Holmes and the railways if you’re not familiar with those books.
Pete – Thanks for the GC material – fascinating stuff.
Lars – Pictures, comments and the Mets. I know they’re in, now you have to sit back and wait for awhile.
BK – all sorts of livery/paint information.
Tom provided lots of pictures and information for us to read and digest. Bob Cousy? All right! Now, I’ll give you another you may remember. Radio broadcasts of Celtics games from “High above courtside,” by Johnny Most, an unabashed home team rooter if there ever was one. Used to listen to him on the old RCA radio (with tubes, yet!)
Warning Will Robinson! Tech talk, tech talk for our 'steamed prorietor. If you don't want to read this stuff, skip to the next paragraph, which has lots of rr-stuff!
Tom: If you have your material electronically formatted already. You can do a lot of tranfer work with Word once you deal with its conventions. IIRC, you didn't mention what format(s) you have available to you, but I have put a lot of my stuff on CD and backed it up remotely as well. Sybex has published several books under the general heading on "Mastering Office" which have a lot of screen captures and real world examples of this sort of activity. I have, in addition, esepcially with my locomotive rosters and lcomotive tech notes, done a lot by using OCR and working with it after it's scanned; this has also been especially useful for law and reg stuff at work which we use a lot. It does. however, sometimes take a bit of cleanup after you scan it, but it's a lot easier than retyping everyting
B4 I forget (age, you know!), a big welcome to both DL and James.
I can see we’re going to have some interesting fun with Canadian material. I assume we can do something with interline service on this day; for example, B&M, CV, D&H, and NYNH&H handling cars to and from Canada.
Herewith a couple of more short lines from the southern U.S.
Chattahoochee Industrial Railroad. You may remember their boxcars which carried the slogan, “Better by a Dam Site.” Back abt. 40 years go, they had another slogan which I think is a good one as well, “Connecting the lower Chattahoochee Valley with the Nation’s Rail Transportation System.” They were based out of Cedar Spring, GA and connected with the C of G at Hilton, GA and with the SCL at Saffold, GA.
Then we have the Cape Fear Railways, Inc. at Ft. Bragg NC; they prided themselves (for obvious reasons) on providing “Special Train Service at All Hours.” They operated 2 miles between Ft. Bragg and Ft. Junction, NC; and 9 miles between Ft. Bragg and Skibo. Connections with the SCL were at Ft. Junction, and with the Aberdeen and Rockfish at Aberdeen, and the (real) Norfolk Southern at Aberdeen or Fayetteville, NC.
Work safe
P.S. Don’t know whether I will drop by tomorrow or not; it’s going to be cold, so they have decided we get to go out and play in the mud and dirt for awhile.
Good afternoon Ruth if there is any room left on my maxed line of credit ( thanks to BK's buying of rounds ) I'll have a Keith's and a number 3. What is to say but this latest week of midnights is killing me should be the last one for a while however
Yesterday was a wonderfull outlay of Brit Rail chat and pictures 5x for BK , Tom , Lars , Nick , & Pete.Like CM3 I was a passeneger instead of a submitter, but I learned a great deal thanks folks, for making another fine fine theme day. Speacial 's to DL ,& James.Not only did both of you pop by as you promissed but you also added into with fine contributions of your own.
Next tuesday should be a gem of a theme day as well. I may be able to scare something up
Tom-Some fine shots of your fine dabblings in the world of MR 5x for your efforts sir. Just missing the garden and Zor N to make your efforts complete.
Pete-I don't have any shots of the junction with the CSR and the peanut line. I've never actually been into Cornwall. The street railway folded in 1971 ( freight only from late 50's to 71 ) My understanding is that it was similar to the NS&T and CN intercahnge in Merriton On ( St Catharines ) with the Street railway pulling in behind the station into a yard. The yard lead and several of the yard tracks had catenery strung over them as both the street railway and the CPR were standard guage.Also to you inquery on railway as opposed to railroad. Mostly a regional thing. In Canada most are railways , where as in the US they are Railroads.Not a hard and fast rule but seems to be the case.Some company names sound better when said with the word railway instead of railroad. One of those odd semantic things.
Rob
Hi Tom and all.
Can I have a Bathams that BK offered on ROB's tab RUTH and a bacon roll if there is any left.
First to CMSTPP.
A great finish to the BR day with NICK's Somerset and Dorset post. a true favourite line in the hearts of many a UK enthusiast.I have read recently that the line stayed steam worked until the end. Another line that owes it demise to a regional take over. In the last years of the S&D the freight class 9F 2-10-0 locos were used with great success on the heavy summer Saturday trains over the Mendips hills. I believe the last Pines Express over the S&D was hauled by 9F #92220" Evening Star" the last steam loco built by BR. To think some of these fine locomotives had a life of less than 5 years barely run in and probably Britains best ever freight loco. .
Thanks for the info on COPPERKETTLE.
MIKE Great links. Can you imagine that the Euston Arch was demolished, although the Curzon Street in Birmingham still stands, I believe there is some doubt as to its future, if I find out more I will post it.
On the pic of the PLA diesel-electric switcher just below the radiator is a BTH logo meaning the electrical Equipment was supplied by the works I was at in Rugby.
Loved the pic of Metropolitan Metro-Vick electric loco #1 John Lyon. London Transport kept one of these locos in working order #12 Sarah Siddons, a few jears ago I went on a special which travelled the ex MET overground lines in the North West of London. There was also a loco of this class named Sherlock Holmes. At the end of their service a number of these locos were at Rugby awaiting the journey to the scrapyard I suppose, why they were at Rugby or where they went to I dont know. Perhaps someone knows and perhaps has some pics.
Many thanks for that Transport Archive link, fantastic pics of the GC being built, although the scenes of the line after it closed are sad, I have walked quite a few miles along the trackbed, In the pic#599 showing the bridge over the Oxford Canal at Rugby when first built, nowadays just one of the large brick pier survives mostly covered by vegitation.
CM3 Loved the song titles, what are chitlins.
Glad you liked the GC post thanks.
Sherlock Holmes adventures did involve a lot of railtravel, in the story of The Bruce Partington Plans it is a marvellous description of London Underground when it was still steam worked. Did the TV series on Sherlock Holmes which starred Jeremy Brett show over here. IMHO he portrayed the Holmes I pictured when I read the Books.
BK Yes it is indeed a privilege to see the CAN-AM. at the re-union I would think that a good amount of time will be spent there. I too am looking forward to Eric's return, I think he was going to go to the Swedish 150 railway celebrations it will be great to get the details and hopefully some pics.
ROB Great to see you in after the midnight shifts. Looking forward to the Canadian Passenger theme next week.
Thanks for the info on the CSR and Peanut line interchange. There is still here in Jeff City a part of a freight line that runs down the center of the street that is used most nights. I can't think of any where in the Uk where this happens now.
TOM Great pic of the CAN-AM. I bet it is great to see those snow covered hills when it it is nearly 100F outside..
Thanks for the link to the Johnny Most commentary. I must admit I still prefer the radio to listen to the Soccer commentary rather than TV. I can get the matches on the puter from the UK, they are from the regional stations so it is a biased commentary, you generally can choose which teams commentary you want. It is a wonderful feeling when I lived in over England, on a cold dark and wet winters night to have just the light from the gas fire and listen to a evening match on the radio with a beer.
Evenin gents(and Lydia of course)-a round of fine foaming ales for all present,glad you all enjoyed the whirlwind tour of U.K. rail-apologies for the rather vague and dateless nature of my submission,but having wandered in after a few days absense it was thrown together on the fly,as it were,without access to any reference materials-so-ROB thanks for heads -up R.E C.N Zebra stripes-at risk of extreme cheekiness,could you furnish any ball-park dates ??-agree that the green variants were the class act but that red & Zebra combo has an impact long lacking over here
TOM-A visit to your train room is always a bright spot in the day,the Can-Am is looking well and the S-capades very fine indeed -so tell me-are you still enjoying the tail chasing (behave you lot...) something very soothing about watching a favoured consist gently passing by again and again-the click of the rail joints,the whirr of the motor.......................the memories of journeys past.
PETE-chitterlins are to pigs small intestines what Haggis is to sheeps stomachs-nuff said.-not a footie man meself but saturday tea-time in autumn without the rugby scores & match reports would be a strange thing indeed. The only street running I can call to mind is Wexford Town,which we have mentioned before and is not strictly in the U.K.
S&D was indeed steam to the last-Evening Star,a beautiful machine--I have a pet theory that the Rev. W Awdry based Thomas`s isle of Sodor,with royal blue locos & salmon pink coaches (look at the original artwork ) on the SOmerset & DORset line-the geography fits as well-enough,I`m rambling
CM3-Prescott is as much,if not more,of an embarrassment to us as the Duke of Edinburgh-I am sure he has only been kept on as a dis-incentive to those who would otherwise take out the idiot Blair-I seem to recall some V.P`s in your own recent history who have served similar functions................
Well-I have formed a photobucket account and loaded up some pix-now all I have to do is work out how to get them here-the rest of you seem to have no trouble so I`m sure it is not beyond the wit of mortal man-but a couple of hints would`nt hurt.......have checked out the F.A.Q`s here and they are no help at all ,likewise the photobucket site
Ah well-off to have another stab at it. See you all for F&C night tomorrow,apologies to anyone I`ve missed
take care,nick
Well-I have formed a photobucket account and loaded up some pix-now all I have to do is work out how to get them here-the rest of you seem to have no trouble so I`m sure it is not beyond the wit of mortal man-but a couple of hints would`nt hurt.......have checked out the F.A.Q`s here and they are no help at all ,likewise the photobucket site ">
Good morning Tom and all. I'll have a quick light breakfast and skee-daddle, but I didn't want to miss another day of not dropping in. Two-Jobs-Doug leaves around 5am and gets home about 10pm these days. The bride has ordered a workless-Saturday, which means I will only be working on the farm instead of somewhere else. Great theme-day stuff guys, and pleasant bar-banter yesterday. I finally figured out why many of the pix here don't fully enlarge. They are the "sized" versions at the URLs! Yuck!
Make a great day, and see ya'll soon!
Military cutbacks
G’day Gents!
A late start for me – but it doesn’t appear that anyone has been around since Doug’s very early morning Post! So, I haven’t missed a thing – and apparently neither have YOU!
Petrol up at “Collusion Corner” is at $2.26 (rounded) – a perplexing sign in that world oil prices have dropped considerably, but the pump prices are rising. Just last week they were under $2.10 a gallon. Go figger that . . .
Hang in there Doug! Wondering if you’ve considered renting that condo – at least until you can see a bit of daylight Perhaps we could use it as an “annex” – hmmmmm, come closin’ time, that neighbor of yours just might have his hands full with the likes of the Track Gangs, Boris and Leon!
My late nite ‘catch up’ Post pretty much did that very thing – so I await some business!
Ruth, take a break and I’ll watch the bar for an hour or so . . . .
Later!
Tom
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and all assembled!
Ruth, it surely does not appear that we have an assembled lot today. No matter, I shall have a number three and a stein of whatever lager is convenient.
When accessing this thread, I noted an "old friend" who is on the forum - but not here. Bolsters what I said and provided a week or so ago. Rather odd, not to drop by and even moreso to have departed without so much as an adieu. Takes all kinds.
Thought we would have some repeat visits from the two newcomers by now, but perhaps that is expecting too much. Interesting how when one is retired, there is a propensity to look at others as if they have all the time in the world to do this or that. <grin> Oh how quickly one forgets what it is like to be gainfully and fully employed!
Nice "blast from the past" Captain Tom! Maybe it will get West Coast Dave out from wherever they have him sequestered. I recall reading something about his being restricted to the base, or something like that. He did not provide elaboration. If Southern Pacific does not get him here today, I dare say, nothing will. <grin>
Enjoyed reading the comments from Pete - Rob - Nick and Doug, as always! Let's hope that our military in either country ever gets to the dire straits shown in that 'funny' of yours, Doug!
Saw Shell and Esso at 93.9 a litre the other day. So multiply that by 4 (actually 3.79) to get an idea of what we pay for that liquid gold.
This surely must be a holiday, for it is as quiet as I have ever seen it. Time for a nap!
BK in Alberta, Canada's beautiful high mountain country!
I'll have a couple of Bathams to keep Tilla ticking over please RUTH and can you save me some of NICK"S Fish 'n' Chips for later.
DOUG Good to see you in.Hope those long, long days are over soon.
NICK I had not made the connection with the S&D and the Isle of Sodor before. I think you could well be right though, I had a look on a S&D web site and there were some Midland Railway class 3F 0-6-0 'Jinty' tank engines delivered.to the SDJR in 1929. I have not been able to find out if these were in Prussian Blue but it is very possible they were. A dead ringer for Thomas the Tank.
I have some links to some Irish Railway photos.
http://northernirelandtransportphotos.fotopic.net/
http://irishrailwayimages.fotopic.net/
http://nirailwayphotos.fotopic.net/
There is some pics of the new Irish DMUs.
BK. Come and have a lager with me. Hopefully the newcomers are reading the posts and will be calling in again soon.
TOM.Looking forward to Nicks photo's.Great news about the Beer Fridge.
Another great Blast From the Past. I dont suppose any passenger train travels 51 miles through Mexico on the way to Los Angeles nowadays like the SP Imperial did in 1946 . Perhaps DAVE will give some details of the SP through Mexico, I suppose the Imperial used SP locos during the ride over Mexican rails.
I am quite looking forward to seeing the UP diesel which is going to be painted in SP heritage livery,although it will have to be a photo, as I doubt if the loco will be in this area.
I 'll have another Bathams and do some outside chores now as the wind is picking up and they have forecast rain here.
Pete.
Tom's Blast from the Past!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #67
from page 239Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1948 advertisement in my personal collection. On your S.P trip to California See twice as much for the same rail fare Go one way – return another Here’s an exciting travel bargain for your California trip: South Pacific offers you four routes. Choose one S.P. route to California, a different S.P. route returning, and you’ll see twice as much for the same roundtrip rail fare from most points! You’ll ride on some of these famous trains: Our Sunset Limited and Argonaut, via romantic New Orleans to Los Angeles across the great Southwest (Sunset Route). Our new Golden State, 45-hour extra fast, extra fare streamliner, and our Imperial, Chicago to Los Angeles (Golden State Route). Our sleek 50 ¾ hour extra fare streamliner City of San Francisco, and our Overland, Chicago to San Francisco via spectacular Salt Lake and Reno (Overland Route). And our Cascade and Beaver through the evergreen Northwest (Shasta Route). And on your 470 mile scenic trip between Los Angeles and San Francisco you have our exciting streamlined Daylights and our famous all-Pullman streamlined Lark that the movie stars ride. Send for the guidebook to plan with. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . S*P . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The friendly Southern Pacific . . . . Enjoy! Tom
G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth, I have a powerful thirst and am hankerin' for something wet! Hmmmmmmm - oh yeah, a frosty mug of Schaefer if you please!
Miss one day and it doesn't appear as if I've missed all that much! However, there was some fine material shared since my last visit and all appears well at the Bar by the Ballast (our latest reference to the bar, thanks to Nick in West Wales!).
I too would have thought that "Tom's Blasts from the Past!" would surely have shaken the tree quite vigorously and had Left Coast Dave amongst us. But, didn't happen - yet. There IS a time zone difference - or is that a "warp" when one is talking about California Also - thought 20 Fingers Al was supposed to be back with us this week. On again, off again . . .
Yanks clinched! Yanks clinched! Sort of a "back into" affair - but with that lead, can't take anything away from our 2nd winnAH in NYC! to the Pinstripes from the Bronx!
Nice URls, Pete - Irish rail is an interesting set and one could easily get immersed in those sites. Did I catch a reference to your return to the old sod once again Pleasure, I hope. Perhaps you can get us a good deal on a London to Glasgow rail sojourn for a Rendezvous - with free air fare thrown in!
Good to see ya "bookend" of mine - BK - and hope all is well in Alberta. Noted that your former leader has resigned - just caught a bit of news - 13 years as the boss. That's quite a long time for an elected official in any land. So, when is the next voyage Noted your comment about a possible foray to GB - are you also going to make it to Sweden on that trip
Appreciate the e-mails from those of you who give a Rat's Patoot - thanx!
I should make special mention of Captain Tom's fine layout - and I am really looking forward to viewing it come this spring at the Rendezvous. Now with the news of a "beer fridge," well that's just added topping to what should be a fine desert! Great trainroom and perhaps once I log a few hours in it, I'll return to my digs and begin one of my own. Yeah right - and King Kong will return to the Empire State Building!
Nick, someone needs to furnish you with a large bar of Octagon soap for that potty mouth reference! You'd think we're a bunch of sailors in a bar with those inuendos and such!
Hang in there Doug and Rob - your work schedules are overtaking the fun you are missing here at the bar!
I hear the Mrs. bellowing, ooooops - beckoning my name - so I'll have one "quickie" Ruth my deAH, then I'm outta here!
Boris, ring the bell, a round on the Larsman!
Until the next time!
Lars
Hi Tom!!!
Sorry I haven't been under here for a while but the winter season is around the bend and I'm getting ready for it. (sigh)
Anyway.. on the up side.. I noticed that Budkarr had mentioned something about my fascination with the Milwaukee road.
It started when I first layed eyes on the Milwaukee road electric, Box cab, E-50, Now in Duluth and the Lake superior railroad museum. www.lsrm.org I was so fascinated by the huge structure of the locomotive and how it had been the first, most powerful and largest electric loocomotive in the world in 1919, that I had to get more information on it.
So I went to my dad. He told me a little about it but said if you want to know about the Milwaukee road you needed to go to some books and read up on it. The book I got was, "The Milwaukee Road" by Frederick W. Hyde. This book didn't just go over the Box cab but also the other 4 electrics that the Milwaukee road had.
The Milwaukee road had an electric I have liked for who knows how long. The Little Joe. The little joe was a suppose to be sent over to Russia but after the cold war in 1943, Russia was no longer able to buy them so they sold them to the railroads in the USA. Only two railroads wanted them and one was the Milwaukee road.
The other electric that caught my eye was the Bipolar. This locmotive was intended for passenger service for the Chicago to Seattle Trains. Both ends of the bipolar held a steam generator fo which ever direction it was traveling. The thing that impressed me the most about the Bipolar was its strengh. There was once a test for the power this locomotive held. Two Steam engines, a 2-4-4-2 and a 2-10-2 were both coupled together for the same direction. When the Bipolar was added they started to pull just like in tug-a-war. Both steam engines were putting out 100,000 pounds of tractive effort and the Bipolar was pulling them along at an easy 25 miles per hour! This is what really sparked my interest in the railroad.
The Milwaukee road has been my favorite railroad for about 15 years. I just think it was one of those unique railroads that should have gone on, but alas..It did not. But this is why I model it because it's no longer around. the way the railroad had the power to put electrification to it's line was amazing to me. So that is what I model. It's a small portion of why I like it and If you want to know more about the railroad you should probably check out my website at www.freewebs.com/cmstpp/
Otherwise it has been a good day. I have been working on the scenery part of my layout and it turned out quite nice.
Next I'm going to be working on the Semaphores. I'm going to be ordering some Signal bridges with the Semaphores. I will be starting this in the next couple of months..hopefully. If you guys want I will post the pictures when we have another layout posting day.
Hope you guys have a good one.
James
Good afternoon or is it morning hmmm not quite sure at the moment. Oh well i think Ruth a keith's and one of H&H's famous ( or infamous ) haddock supprises with home fries please.
Tom -Ah yes I had forgotten about the G guage xmas layout.And now a friend has saddled you with some N so, I guess that you now need to focus on Z ( litteraly ) and perhaps a helping of OO and TT guage as well to make your trainroom complete. A collect the whole set if you will Some nice SP blasts from the past, I to am supprised that it didn't pry Dave loose. Perhaps that was him in Doug's photo and that is why he's been unavailable
James-Good to see you back in again, and all that talk of juice jacks has certainly peeled my interest, I'm looking forward to some more info on them either on a wednesday or perhaps a Tuesday theme day dealing with the Millwaukee road. Another to keep in our hats for later Tom
Nick-So you bit the bullet and joined the bucket eh good show. I'm sure that between Tom and myself and the other's we can get you through the early teething problems As to your inquiry CN started using the newlook wet noodle in 1960 so 60-65 for te salnted after 66 they started going with the simplified no angle on the red till unit retirment. You have to check photo's though as some of the F units and the like never got the simplified straight scheme.
Well folks a good day to all feklicitations to Doug and BK and Lars
hmmm-evidently not there yet-will keep trying
evenin chaps-beer for the house and large measures of the reserve rum for Tom for helpful hints-another technological barrier crossed.
This first sample is :- small monster Hannah & my `friend` Chrissie`s wee lad Ifan in front of Drwslynn Castle at Fishguard recently,not a particulrly memorable pic but a breakthrough......
back soon with more
G'day Gents!
What ho Visits from Rob - James - Dave 'n Nick, not to mention earlier appearances by BK 'n Lars, our original "bookends" and Pete! Not a bad day after all . . . . Leon, set 'em up and ring the bell, Boris! Drinks on Da Boss . . . .
And the last shall be first, or something like that. Nick, congrats on mastering the PhotoBucket technique along with comprehending a bit of the Kalmbach mystery of Pix posting. Ship me an E-mail if you need additional assistance . . . .
From the looks of your 1st successful venture, let me offer this: it appears that you used the URL from the smaller photo in your account, rather than enlarge it AND THEN going to "properties" - copy, etc. How do I know this When I click on your Pix to enlarge it here on the Thread - it doesn't enlarge! That's the key . . . But, take heart - you have reached 1st base!
Thanx for the background info on your favorite RR, James - the Milwaukee Road - a mighty fine road indeed. By the by, I have visited your web site and signed into your visitors log. A very worthwhile visit and I recommend it to all!
Glad to see you "bookends" up 'n about the decks this fine day. For a while there, it was getting rather lonely these past couple of days (daze). However, we do NOT want to fall into that "trap" of having to provide info every hour or so - really gets to be overly compulsive (redundant, eh[?}) and not in keeping with what we try to do 'round the Tavern by the Tracks. Once the "fun" is out of it - it ain't worth doin' it!
Dave, good seeing you emerge from wherever they have you sequestered these days (daze)! Figured the SP would "do it" !! Interesting run down on the trackage south of the border - I saw what looked like some narrow gauge along the border during one of my frequent LE forays along the SoCal - Arizona border. Very, very rugged terrirotry indeed - that was in 1987-88 - recall seeing a very impressive trestle, but for the life of me cannot tell you where it was. I think it was about halfway to the Airzona border from SoCal. Ring any bells
Nice try Rob, but no cigar! HO - S and O are "it" for the Can-Am Trainroom with G-gauge at Christmas in the "abode." That's IT! I'm going to breakfast with my friend who left the N-gauge stuff here and will inform him that over a year has passed and unless he gets serious, I'm "claiming" the sets as mine - possession is 9/10ths, so I've heard!
Pete - some nifty URLs to peruse! Ireland is indeed a "railroading kinda place" eh Looking back on the development of the RRs in this country, the Irish surely lent their strong backs to the effort . . . Figured the mention of the "Beer Fridge" would perk you up a bit!
Okay boyz, time for me to check out - catch y'all in the AM!
O.K folks-see if we can work out the enlarging bit this time.....
This is her with 12 on and burning bad lignite coal blasting out of Fishguard Harbour stn (just before the horizontal Welsh rain started)
This is Killarney ,on the west coast of Ireland.
The train on the left is going out to Tralee and the one on the right to Dublin
Some 10 minutes later,the Dublin service has departed & the Tralee train,having run into the headshunt,is now running up to the bank which takes the line out to the west
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and here she is running up the bank and out of town
Lordy,I could go wild with this.........
Here we are at the model village in Clonakilty,a fine example of 1=24 scale architectural modelling-sadly,all the railway models are L.G.B narrow gauge ,presumably chosen for reliability over accuracy.....
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An overview of one side of the village ,taken from the central turret-like structure
And to finish,since vanity will have it`s way,a couple of shots of my own modest efforts..
A G.P.9 lifts a cut of O.N.R newsprint cars past the icing plant
An F.P.40ph runs through the metro area with Budd cars
An FP9 a+b set runs out of Bradford down the bank towards Toronto
(All the above with apologies to ROB for gross liberties taken with his homeland....)
right-lets see if this works-sorry if all you get is little red crosses,but I have followed the `structions....
right,bu**er it-they dont enlarge-advice noted-thanks TOM -will have another look in daylight when my few remaining neurons are all sparking,still-progress made so no bad thing.
Somewhat frazzled with huge mental effort so will stick to simple menu tonight-Boris has been tasked with `dillo protection duties and Copperkettle is eager to prove himself,so will let him take the lead :-
Thus we have Cod,Plaice & Halibut,all in a light beer batter with fries and mushy peas (don`t ask -it`s an English thing...)
Also,the Surf & Turf special-6oz Welsh Black steak,6oz Gammon steak topped with whole-shell king prawns &Calamari rings with a selection of dips ,skinny fries and a big bowl of `s salad de jour
right-sorry to be non-interactive but I`ve got a big show to do tomorrow and I need my beauty sleep ( as all the women in my life will contest) -see you all later,be happy ( and for goodness sake-play nicely...!)
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Can the Can in Can-Am bring to mind a Can collection, and can the refrigerated contents of cans induce a trip to the can? Pretty sight is your train set, Tom, I'm jealous.
James, thanks for your website, with its links to gorgeous old pictures, particulary Canadian Pacific in the Rockies and Southern Pacific in Daylight of streamlined steam.
DL, your link to whitechurch website, great pics of Forth Bridge and maps of British rail lines, thanks.
Nick, I had to consult the Atlas, but I saw where your train of thought was going. News to me that Somerset and Dorset are adjacent counties in the south of England, not too far from Penzance, where pedigreed pirates perpetually perch with Linda Ronstadt in her lovely medium youth.
Pete, here's a few of the Rugby pictures at transport archive. I sense the loss, as I can relate it to Penn Station and St. Albans train shed.
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/getobject.php?rnum=L1654&searchitem=Rugby&mtv=L1&pnum=4
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/getobject.php?rnum=L3107&searchitem=Rugby&mtv=L1&pnum=12
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/getobject.php?rnum=L1814&searchitem=Rugby&mtv=L1&pnum=5
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/getobject.php?rnum=L2997&searchitem=Rugby&mtv=L1&pnum=10
http://www.gcrleicester.info/Old_Photographs/Trip_to_Nottingham___Rugby/trip_to_nottingham___rugby.html
Also from the Transport Archive
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/aimages/G1094.jpg
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/aimages/G3399.jpg
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/aimages/G3494.jpg
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/aimages/G4166.jpg
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/aimages/G1108.jpg
Mike
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
We’re inside today (because it warmed up outside), so it’s time for a posting.
Nick – Will be interested in seeing pictures when we can grow them a “little bigger.” But, it looks like a good start. You defined chitlins pretty well, I was going to mention haggis in my reply, but you got there ahead of me. The Prescott I referred to was a 19th century American historian.
Dave – SP material is always appreciated as you know.
James – Thanks for the background information and your comments on the CMStP&P. Have you been to the Lake Shore Museum in North East, PA? They have a Little Joe on display and you can, if you hit it right “tour” the locomotive. I assume you have (or have seen) the 2nd ed. of Steinheimer’s book on the MILW. I bought it last year – pricy, but, my God, the pictures! B4 I forget, University of Iowa Press recently reprinted August Derleth’s book, Milwaukee Road – The First 100 Years. You can get it in paperback.
Lars – Now, spotlighting the sports on the sportlight spotlight - Yankees – no comment. BTW, did you see the A-Rod story in SI? It’s intriguing to me how the White Sox going in the tank has gone pretty much unnoticed in the press and/or electronic media. I know – location, location, location. Be interesting to me to see how ND does with Michigan State. ; one more loss and the ‘domers are truly in trouble.
Tom – Thanks for layout pictures and more SP material. Virtually all of my model equipment is in boxes. I still keep buying stuff when I see something.
Pete – The SP heritage unit is beautiful.. IMHO, that one the the D&RG engine are the two best in the UP series. I, for one, would like to see CSX do a series of heritage units. Lt’s see we’d have: B&O, C&O, WM, RF&P, SAL, ACL, L&N, A&WP, WofA, CC&O, NYC, and probably a few more I can’t remember right off – new idea but.......Before I forget, check out Railpctures website http://www.railpictures.net if you want to see the UP material. It is I think one of the better rail sites out there. It has a tremendously powerful search engine feature. This again is one of those sites that you can get lost in and wonder where the time went.
Mike - URLs and Pedigreed pirates - excellent. How about a couple of lines from another G&S work one, "He's hardly ever sick at sea! What? never? No! never? What? never? Well, hardly ever."
I’m looking forward to Canadian material next week and am putting together interline stuff I mentioned earlier.
Another blue sky morning here in mid-continent USA, however a storm front is approaching – temps are to reach the low 80s (F) before dropping into 50s once we get smacked around a bit later on this PM . . . . Noticed petrol dropped to $2.20 (rounded) up at “Collusion Corner” . . . the roller coaster ride continues, but compared to what we’ve been told by BK and others – we here in the the US are most fortunate in so many ways when it comes to energy prices. Doubt it will remain so – as the stranglehold on the supply seems to be more ‘n more in the hands of those who wish us ill will. Past due for alternative sources and past due for . . . . ooooops, this is a “classic trains” Forum!
Pull up a stool and partake in some freshly baked goodies from the Mentor Village Bakery along with the best coffee in the village!
Nick, there’s an E-mail en route . . . .
Mike, some wonderful URLs and undoubtedly Pete will love ‘em! And, the answer is "Of course!"
BK, I did take note of our former ‘regular’ returning to the Forums, but not our Thread. Don’t know why – don’t care to ponder it further and let’s keeping moving forward, looking back can only get you impaled on a parking meter! (check a previous comment I made about THAT episode!)
A few comments about the Can-Am RR, since I was asked:
The layout is roughly 28 ft in length – 14 ½ ft at its widest point – 6 ½ ft would be the nominal width and it is 30 in up from the floor. The height was predetermined due to the dimensions of the metal “card table” legs used for the support of the structure – sorry NMRA!)
There is a mountain range running most of the length of the layout which essentially divides it quite nicely, thereby keeping one from being able to view all the sights from one place. It was designed that way and works for me!
The layout is a two level affair with each separate from the other. The lower level features dual mainline tracks, 28 turnouts, signal lights, and all kinds of things to maintain one’s interest. The upper level “mountain run” is a single track affair with one turnout each at either end in the train depot areas to accommodate the RDC consists (BC Rail & VIA Rail – 2 cars each).
Passenger rail is the featured operation, with VIA Rail the dominant carrier, followed by Amtrak on the lower level. CP and CN provide the requisite freight service for the modest industrial areas along the right of way.
The layout is powerd by two MRC Tech IV dual packs with each controller dedicated to a particular route (one mainline each – the mountain run and my Union Station and locomotive yard sidings.) Another MRC dual pack is used to power the layout lights and other accessories. Beneath the layout are two MRC sound systems, enabling one to listen to the appropriate “noise” from the trains running in opposite directions. Also, inside Union Station is a sound module featuring the sounds of a city train station, replete with train announcements and the like.
Can-Am is the name for a couple of reasons: We are a Canadian-American family plus we have traveled quite extensively by rail in Canada that we wanted to capture as many memories in model form as possible. We like the results and apparently many of you do too!
The Lionel Polar Express shelf system provides a 19 ½ ft by 4 ½ ft run for the O gauge Berkshire – tender and 5 illuminated passenger cars. A fun train to watch and listen to. Inspired by the movie and a well done model by Lionel. Well worth it in my opinion.
The basement storage room features something rather different – a 7 x 8 ft layout suspended from the ceiling. The 2 in. insulate foam board layout is attached to a series of lines and pulleys enabling me to hoist away when I need the floor space for other projects. Then when it’s time to play, lower away and there is the S-Capades (named by Nick) an S-gauge layout designed for fun – just plain fun. Three consists of trains – two freight and one passenger all powered by a great MRC dual transformer (reminds me of the old Lionel ZW) with sounds in the loco’s, etc.
That should pretty much take you through the overview of it all . . . . I’ll provide some more Pix on our Wednesday Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! here at the bar.
Good to see ya this AM – CM3 and appreciate the round and quarters! Did you notice that the Tigers have slipped a percentage point behind the Twins Also, I read where the Mets are moving their AAA team from the Tidewater area (Norfolk) down to New Orleans. What a shame - a real shame. The Tidewater Tides were a fixture in that area; wonder if another major league team will fill the void Also, Blues dropped their 2nd pre-season (ho hum) hockey game. And finally, Cards lost yet another heart breaker – one in which Carpenter just has to take the blame. BUT, why oh why did Molina call for a time out on “that” pitch in the bottom of the 8th Really messed up the pitcher for on the very next throw – bam – two run shot. <groan>
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #52
from page 209Here’s something to enjoy regarding the General Motors Electro-Motive Division from a 1948 advertisement in my personal collection. The colorful recreation car on The Jeffersonian, Pennsylvania Railroad all-coah streamliner, provides a luxurious game and reading lounge, a children’s playroom, a miniature movie theatre and a sunken buffet-lounge. The Jeffersonian is in daily service between New York and St. Louis. It is provided by a General Motors locomotive. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PLAY AS YOU GO . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You get more fun out of the pleasures today’s travel affords when you train is powered by a General Motors Diesel locomotive. For then you travel with a new smoothness – and a new speed, too. Often, on the straightaways, your train will top 100 miles an hour. General Motors locomotives have also brought a new cleanliness to travel - no smoke and cinders to mar your appearance; no clouds of steam to mar your view. For years General Motors locomotives have held the records for on-time arrivals. It is easy to see why 197 of America’s finest, fastest name trains are headed by General Motors power. Easy to understand why better trains follow General Motors locomotives. . . . . . . . . . . ELECTRO-MOTIVE DIVISION . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GENERAL MOTORS * LA GRANGE, ILL. . . . . . . . . . . Home of the Diesel Locomotive . . . . . Enjoy! Tom
Electro-Motive Diesel, Inc. (formerly General Motors Electro-Motive Division) is the world's second largest builder of railroad locomotives. General Electric is the largest, overtaking EMD in the mid-1980s, and between them they have built the overwhelming majority of the locomotives in service in North America and a large proportion of those in the rest of the world as well. EMD can lay claim to being the company that ended the dominion of the steam locomotive on the world's railroads, by both producing high-quality, reliable locomotives, and just as importantly (maybe more so) knowing how to sell them. That the victory of the diesel locomotive over the steam locomotive was, outwardly, such an easy and rapid one is thanks to the marketing and sales skill of EMD, backed by its aggressive and confident corporate parent.
History
Electro-Motive Engineering Company was founded in Cleveland, Ohio in 1922 by H. L. Hamilton and Paul Turner. The next year, the company sold only two gasoline-powered rail motor cars, one to the Chicago Great Western and the other to the Northern Pacific. They were delivered the following year, and worked well - fortunately for the fledgling company, because the sales were conditional on satisfactory performance. The next year, 1925, the company changed its name to Electro-Motive Company (EMC) and entered full-scale production, selling 27 railcars.
In 1930, General Motors, seeing the opportunity to develop the diesel engine purchased the Winton Engine Company, and after checking the Winton Engine Companys books, decided to purchase its chief customer "Electro Motive Company" which was a rail based company. Advancing from railcars, the company began building multi-car diesel streamliners, for the Union Pacific among others. By 1935, GM felt confident enough to invest in a brand new factory on 55th St in McCook, Illinois, just west of Chicago, which is still the corporate headquarters. By the end of the 1930s, EMC had a diesel engine powerful and reliable enough for road locomotive use. The 567, named for its displacement-per-cylinder of 567 in³ (9.3 L), was a two-cycle (or two-stroke) supercharged engine with overhead camshafts and four exhaust valves per cylinder. It was built in V6, V8, V12 and V16 configurations. The new technology found its first uses in glittering prow-nosed passenger locomotives, but EMC's eye was on the meat - freight service. The glamorous passenger services made little money for the railroads; capturing the freight market from the steam locomotive would be the ultimate prize. The company produced a multi-unit freight locomotive demonstrator, the EMD FT, and began a tour of the continent's railroads to demonstrate it.
The tour was a success; Western roads in particular saw their prayers of freeing themselves on their dependence on scarce, expensive desert water supplies for steam locomotives answered in the FT. By 1940 EMC was producing a locomotive a day and had reached 600 in service. General Motors merged EMC and Winton Engine to create the Electro-Motive Division (EMD) on January 1, 1941.
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