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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 5:54 PM
G'day barndad Doug

So, where's the new URL for your pix [?] [swg]

If wishes were horses ........ I agree, it would be great for ALL of us to attend, but something far different for it to happen that way. Check out all of the info on previous pages concerning the First Annual Rendezvous for "Our" Place. Some of our regulars totally ignored even responding to this .... Nonetheless, we are going forward with it - scheduled for May 2006. Details, as I said, in previous pages.

Enjoy the draught! Try one of those Kokanee beers - great brew from Canada's Pacific Province .......

See ya! [tup]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 6:36 PM
Rob, thanks God no one was killed at Onrario Intn'l Airport! barndad YESss, only a few questions: Will there be confirmation on both the D.R.G & W. Line runs (round trip, no bus returns) and lodging in Durango over-night as well as Pagosa Springs (if so- -$?). Will they be "open or closed" coaches and what does the "registration fee" cover? Could you send more precise, day-by-day, info for June 8-11- -for airlines, etc. reservations should be made NOW? Ain't nothin' I'd rather do next year but need more passenger data for now. Gunns if you guys name an incredible work of Victorian-to-the-present piece of Art after a vocal group that "killed" live music, shame on you![swg]

So far, everything okay with the health thing here. Doctor said: "Stay away from too much of the [b]Boris[/] syndrome." Happy rails and no derails, Ted

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 7:07 PM
Hi Ted, I think. Most unusual post - no greeting for Moi - no order from the bar [?] Hmmmmmmm..

My concern of the day is for those seven U.S. Marines lost in Iraq ....... [:(]

Well, good to see ya today! [tup]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 7:21 PM
Hello everyone. I'll have one of those like before, Tom. You are good at weaning me away from Mr. Busch's products.
About the railroad job. I had it but then the company started breaking promises and going back on their word and changing things so I am still here. I am very p.o. ed about it and even thinking about it gets my blood boiling. I had my dream in my hand but one so and so screwed it up. Maybe I'm old fashioned but a man's word should be worth something.
Two shots of the best Tequila, please. A round for the house, also. I do not want to be accused of drowning my sorrows without thinking of my friends. Drink up!!!
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:08 PM
Evenin' earlydiesels Dan

Round for the house, ring the bell Boris! [tup] Thanx, Dan!

I agree with you 100% regarding a man's word - should always be his bond., for sure., Call it old fashioned, but it still means something to me. Good things will come your way, my friend, just stick to your convictions ....... [;)]

Didn't know there was a GOOD Tequila! [swg] Try some Jose Cuervo .... you be the judge! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:47 PM
Evening Tom and et all [:)] I'll try one of those Canadian draughts please.

Tom, I think you mean that 3751 is a 4-8-4, not a 4-8-6. That's okay. It is a great engine. Maybe it can someday team up with 2926 and 2903 [wow][yeah][tup][bow][bow]

Dan, sorry to hear about the railroad job. Don't let it get you down. You can always try again, even for a different road.

Doug, that's a funny pic. Kinda looks like someone stole the wheels under it and left it on blocks. Rough neighborhood [:o)]

Round for the house on me. (Just because)

Take care,

Russell



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Posted by Gunns on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 9:22 PM
LoL, Tom,
Socorro means help!! in spanish.........

<G> More coffee, work again tonight.

Maby we could call it the "Warrior" or the "Brave", In the same vein as the Chief or the Scout.....
More after first rounds,
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 9:56 PM
Evenin' Guys .....
One Kokanee for Russell a cuppa Joe for Kevin ..... [swg]

[yeah] It's a 4-8-4; just difficult to determine from the angle that the photo was taken at. A great looking piece of machinery for sure! [tup] Thanx for the round ... ring the bell Boris [yeah] [tup]

Hey - I like Warrior - that's a great handle for a train like you are putting together. Perhaps you'll rethink that music though .. think WWII.

Okay guys, time for me to check out as Leon the Night Man has ambled in - wearing his new Jump Boots of course! [swg]

See ya in the 'morrow! [zzz]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by passengerfan on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 10:40 PM
Good evening all guess i'll have a Crown royal and how about a round for the house.
Thinking about naming that train and came up with the name WAMPUM because that is just what it's going to take lots of to get it running. Passenger cars are getting more and more difficult to find especially those in any kind of decent shape at all. And the prices just keep climbing as well. Insurance is another matter entirely, I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad news but getting any kind of operation going today on even a limited basis is extremely expensive and I wish you all the luck in the world. Only wish I was closer so I could watch the progress. Or maybe even get my hands dirty that would be a thrill in itself being part of the retoration of one of these man's finest pieces of machinery.
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Posted by Gunns on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:37 PM
Evening, Leon
Beatles riff was a joke refrencing the song Help... <G>
Actually if we do music, I like Jimmy Dorsey.

I like Warrior too.
Later
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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:49 PM
Hello again everyone. tom a kokanee would be wonderfull haven't had one in years. Ted Yes that was a near miss to be sure.from the looks of the plane I'm suprised anyone survied let alone just the 24 minor injuries.[angel] some divine intervention i think. sorry [#offtopic] Loen a round to the house on me. Tom Quite a party indeed and thanks for the summeries[tup]caught me up in no time.Nice picture link BTW.Update on the first anual rendezvous. so far I'm looking at a possible TTC charter part of the day. With luck it will be affordable and what better way to enjoy the city than by streetcar? [tup] I'm hoping for a side trip to our museum and th Canadian warplane Herritage as well. Feed back please from those comming but we will keep it off forum. Tom or Ted can supply my email addy if you don't have it.I was doing some cleaning out of old photo's and came accross a couple interesting shots.First is a Brantford street railway DT car built by preston car and coach, Picture is from 1939 a year before my hometown removed the street railway. It's at the car barns which were about ten blocks from my house. They were torn down finally about 10 years ago for an appartment building. Some of the Line is still switched by CN which is something in itself. These shots are truley classic in keeping with our theme.All BSR cars were wood and of Preston car and coach manufacture. Though none still remain similar preston products still exist at our museum and at the Ft edmonton facility and in calgary's herritage Park.The second shot is one of the ubiquitous BSR single truckers on St OPaul Ave again blocks from my house . The third is the Terrace Hill line which ran to Paris Ontario and the last is the old BSR Barns themselves Enjoy. Talk to you all Tomorrow. Good nite all Rob
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 6:31 AM
Good morning Tom et al.
They have a computer in the lounge so I can get a short message off. I might have a few typos as the lighting at the computer is poor and the letters on the keys are almost rubbed off. So here goes.

I will give a brief travelogue of our trip so far. We arrived in Central Starion in Montrael after a short detour to Central BUS Station, which is about 5 miles from the rail station. This was clearly a mistake of the driver as he was definately told RAIL. We were not the only people with the same problem. Really not a problem as we arrived at the central station with two hours before departure. Went to the kiosk machines to scan the bar code on my reservation to get the tickets. Could only get the ticket for my wife and not for me. Even tried two other machines and no success. Had to stant in line to see an agent wh managed to get the ticket. The next problem was standing in the line to get signed in as a first class passenger. There was quite a line (atleast 50 perple in front of me). My wife waited in the Panorama lounge. The problem was that the agent did not show up until 6:00 when they were to start the boarding. Bad scene! Finally got to go down the first class excallator to the train. The compartment in the Park car was small but excellant. You really do not expect a compartment the size of a hotel room when the train is only 10 feet wide. The xonxierge in the Park car, Gary, was TERRIFIC!! He did a super job of caring for all of our needs. Considering the check in fiasco and the bus station we requested a drink from the bar. He said the bar would open after the train departed wihch was to be in 15 minutes. This was not to be. VIA had engine problems and we left 3 hours 15 minutes late. I am glad we signed up for the second seating for dinner. Those who had the first seating ate in the dark confines of the station. We atleast were seated while the train crossed the St Laurence river. We planned to take some pictures of the scenery and sunset but this was not to be. Sitting in the dome car we could see daylight at the end of the tunnel (no pun intended) and slowly watch it fade. When we pulled out it was black outside. No photos on the outbound trip. It started to rain soon after leaving Montrael and continued to Treau (SP??). The view from the dome car was not that dood due to the rain. they need windshield wipers. Sleeping was great. The train movement rocked us to sleep. My wife wanted the upper berth as she had never slept in one before. I slept in one during the winter of 1944-45. A lot was still the same after 60 years. It was over 60 years ago whne I accompanied the porter on the Pennsylvania Railroad as he made the births up. Not much has changed in the interviening years. We did manage to pick up 2 1/4 hours on the trip. The treack between Campbelltown and Moncton, which is owned by New Brunswick RR needs a little TLC. The ride was a little rocky. Gary said that they have to slow down due to the track condition and usually arrive a little late due to this. This is the problem with the short lines and their deferred mintenance programs.

As to the train trip. WE LOVED IT. We would do it again even with the warts we experienced. The scenery was great. Getting near Halifax along the river was vwery similar to along the Skeena River on the Skeena in British Columbia, although the scenery along the Skeena was more mountanous. I highly recommend travel on VIA and will do it again!

More later. Now it is time for breakfast and other want the terminal. Did not have time to read the posts since last Thursday. Will try to do it when peopla are not havering over me.

Cheerrs,
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 6:49 AM
Mornin' Tom yes that last Post of mine was done impromptu and hurridly.[#oops] So, let me grab a "super sized" Java and a croissant to "put out the fire" from yesterday's "Happy Hour."[:)] Rob really neat pix of the BSR. I can't get used to Trolleys without poster boards festooned on front and sides. Gunns only kidding about the Beatles but Tom is probably right about "W.W.II;" maybe "Sentimental Journey, Chatanooga Choo Choo, Rock Island Line, Wabash Cannon Ball..." I know for sure passengerfan Al is "right" about the Wampum. Yes "Warrior" gets my vote also.

I thought Socorro was a species of Cactus much like the plant earlydiesels Dan Teqiula is derived. BTW Dan, if that job came with deceit and untruths; you don't want any part of it noway.[}:)] Better to find out 'before' than 'after', right?[^] I can only think the color of the A.T.S.F. (brown) that I recall must have been some faded form of the green or some other anomoly still to be dicussed. Pullman Green is darned near black, so I don't believe it could be any variation on that color. "Ah Sweet Mystery of Life..." (Nelson Eddy/Janet McDonald circa 1930's).[:O] I say Boris, what happened to my umbrella this time? Oh, you put it in the oven to dry-out!![alien] Okay folks, good to see ya's and don't forget tomorrow is Fish Fry Night. Lots of Mackeral, Grat Northern Pike and Bay of Fundy Flounder for your pleasure. Happy rails, Ted
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 7:57 AM
WEDNESDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

Mornin’ Guys …. A moment to reflect, please – 14 U.S. Marines died this day.

For those who have followed this thread, you KNOW that the political, the religious and any other topic that brings out strong emotions have been dutifully avoided. However, as a military veteran, it’s very difficult to remain silent ……. My profound sympathies for the families and respect for the lost.
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Mid week and time for some great fresh pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery, hot coffee and maybe a light breakfast ……. [yeah]

August 12th will represent the 4th month of ”Our” Place on the Forums. That’s not bad considering we only have a relative handful of guys who make this idea work. Any suggestions regarding something special on that day [?] Whatever we come up with, it has to be a bit different from our Birthday Bashes ……

FIRST ANNUAL “OUR” PLACE CLASSIC TRAINS RENDEZVOUS

(1) The Rendezvous will occur.
(2) It will be for the regular patrons of ”Our” Place, no spouses – this time (unless the spouse happens to be a regular patron).
(3) The location will be Toronto, Canada.
(4) Friday, May 12th, 2006 is the official Rendezvous date – all day and into the evening.
So, plan on arriving at least by Thursday, the 11th.
(5) The events planned for the group will focus on one full day and night, with anything else as optional for those desiring to stay a bit longer. Optional day is Saturday, May 13th.
(6) Rob (Trolleyboy) is our Program Coordinator/Host and is now engaged in putting together the list of things to do and places to stay.

PLEASE continue communicating by Email regarding the Rendezvous. It is IMPORTANT to keep the communications off of the forum/thread so that nothing gets lost in the shuffle.

Time to SUMMARIZE, minus many smilies, graphics and photos.

QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 09:55:25


Hi Tom,
If I am just getting of work does it make it dinner for me??
Anyway I have time for a Beer, before bed. And sandwiches are Great! BTW I dropped off 5 gals Ea. of red and green Chili in the kitchen.
Now we need to come up with a name for our train to Socorro, maby the "Helper Train" with a Beatles Riff for a theme song... <ducks for cover>
Of to bed,
Gunns


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 11:32:44

G'day Gunns Kevin

That question is kinda like if one lives at the bottom of the world, do they stand on their heads [?] Nope - dinner is dinner and breakfast goes along with sun up. Now, that chili of yours just may present somewhat of a problem. You see, Boris just loves hot food - and I don't mean temperatures. However, since he's not of the same world as the rest of us, no tellin' what may happen if he gets into it. Anyway, whenever you come by, just check out the large containers in the store room off the kitchen - that's where it'll be. Help yourself - it's YOURS!

Have to give some thought to a name for your train - theme song shouldn't be a problem if you go with the Beatles ...... depends on what you're trying to get across. For some, music from WWII era might be appropriate, given the equipment you are using.

See ya later!
Tom



QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 13:56:49

Hello everyone. I'll take the usual tall, cold, bottomless draught, please. Tom, If you have ever seen Amish people and the way they dress, and Union infantry uniforms, you will see the resemblance.
Theodorebear, the Leaky Roof line was the Kansas City, Clinton, and Springfield. It was called that because of the decrepit old boxcars sent to the clay pipe works that was located along the line. It became part of the Frisco. At one time, Frisco had 3 lines to Kansas City. During the Depression, the Leaky Roof and another rr were combined using the best of both. Parts were abandoned and the best were upgraded and continued into service until the 70s. Some even lasted until about 5 years ago. Driving along Mo13 one can see remnants if you know where to look. The line BNSF uses now is basically the old Kansas City, Fort Scott and Memphis.
Gunns, if you can't find a Bunit, you can always do like the Stone Mountain Scenic in Georgia did. They took an EMD SW1 and built a box around it so it would look like a boxcar. I wouldn’t worry so much about that as I would trying to find affordable passenger equipment in decent shape. What is out in the market now is usually overpriced junk.
Another cold one, please. Its still hot outside but there is a chance of rain later in the week. The other museum we belong to has been working on acquiring an 1880s depot from a farm family. It has been sitting on the farm for at least 15 years that I know of but supposed to be in good shape. It has never been wired for electricity or had plumbing. It is from the Missouri Pacific. The museum will get it for 400 steel fence posts and then have to pay the mover. It will be moved in late Sep
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QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 15:06:14


G'day earlydiesels Dan

Hot, hoter, 'n more hot - that's the way it is 'round here today. Supposed to be close to the century mark. I picked a great day to work outside!

Think I'll have one of those bottomless draughts with you - try this one from Creston, British Columbia, called Kokanee. I think you'll like it.

You know, we've never found out if you ever got that job you interviewed for [?]

Stay cool as in comfortable!
Tom



QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 15:20:09


Almost forgot this ...... meant to post it yesterday!

A friend of mine gives me a railroad calendar every year. While he's not into the hobby, nor does he really care about trains at all, he knows I do. Each year he comes up with some pretty interesting stuff .... The one I'm using now is called Those Magnificent Trains, by Charles Ditlefsen. Thought of a couple of you guys when I turned to August ....

Featured is a Santa Fe Baldwin loco #3751 (built in 1927) - looks like a 4-8-6 with a great looking tender. Photo was taken in 2002 when the National Historical Society held its annual convention at the Grand Canyon. This loco ran from Los Angeles on the old Santa Fe main line, then headed into the Canyon Depot pulling six heavyweight coaches. Photo is of the loco and tender only.

In 1953 I visited the Grand Canyon by train and we pulled right into that Depot. In 1988, on my long and meandering trip back home from retirement in southern California, we stopped off at the Grand Canyon and was I ever surprised to see the Depot still standing - even had the Santa Fe herald, weathered, but plainly visible. I now have photo's of me from 1953 and 1988 standing beneath that wonderful bit of history.

Thought you'd be interested - Santa Fe fans.

Tom



QUOTE: barndad
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 17:16:28


Afternoon all ... afternoon Siberianmo, skip the tea, I'll have a bottomless draught please, and a round for the house. How's that? You were right about removing the "thumbnail" from the locomotive walker pic. It's much better now.
Gunns, just got my Railway and Historical Society newsletter, and they have big plans out your way for the 2006 convention (June 8-11). June 8 they leave from Albuquerque New Mexico to Pagosa Springs Colorado. On Friday they're taking a trip on the Durango & Silverton line. Saturday they have a trip on the Cumbres and Toltec line. Registration fee for all events is $275. Hotel costs in Pagosa Springs is $95 a night.
I think we should ALL attend!! Siberianmo, what do you think?


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 17:54:59


G'day barndad Doug

So, where's the new URL for your pix [?]

If wishes were horses ........ I agree, it would be great for ALL of us to attend, but something far different for it to happen that way. Check out all of the info on previous pages concerning the First Annual Rendezvous for "Our" Place. Some of our regulars totally ignored even responding to this .... Nonetheless, we are going forward with it - scheduled for May 2006. Details, as I said, in previous pages.

Enjoy the draught! Try one of those Kokanee beers - great brew from Canada's Pacific Province .......

See ya!
Tom


QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 18:36:22

Rob, thanks God no one was killed at Onrario Intn'l Airport! barndad YESss, only a few questions: Will there be confirmation on both the D.R.G & W. Line runs (round trip, no bus returns) and lodging in Durango over-night as well as Pagosa Springs (if so- -$?). Will they be "open or closed" coaches and what does the "registration fee" cover? Could you send more precise, day-by-day, info for June 8-11- -for airlines, etc. reservations should be made NOW? Ain't nothin' I'd rather do next year but need more passenger data for now. Gunns if you guys name an incredible work of Victorian-to-the-present piece of Art after a vocal group that "killed" live music, shame on you!

So far, everything okay with the health thing here. Doctor said: "Stay away from too much of the Boris syndrome." Happy rails and no derails, Ted


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 19:07:46


Hi Ted, I think. Most unusual post - no greeting for Moi - no order from the bar [?]Hmmmmmmm..

My concern of the day is for those seven U.S. Marines lost in Iraq ....... [:(]

Well, good to see ya today!
Tom



QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 19:21:14

Hello everyone. I'll have one of those like before, Tom. You are good at weaning me away from Mr. Busch's products.
About the railroad job. I had it but then the company started breaking promises and going back on their word and changing things so I am still here. I am very p.o. ed about it and even thinking about it gets my blood boiling. I had my dream in my hand but one so and so screwed it up. Maybe I'm old fashioned but a man's word should be worth something.
Two shots of the best Tequila, please. A round for the house, also. I do not want to be accused of drowning my sorrows without thinking of my friends. Drink up!!!


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 20:08:47


Evenin' earlydiesels Dan

Round for the house, ring the bell Boris! Thanx, Dan!

I agree with you 100% regarding a man's word - should always be his bond., for sure., Call it old fashioned, but it still means something to me. Good things will come your way, my friend, just stick to your convictions .......

Didn't know there was a GOOD Tequila! Try some Jose Cuervo .... you be the judge!

Tom


QUOTE: Trainnut484
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 20:47:49

Evening Tom and et all I'll try one of those Canadian draughts please.

Tom, I think you mean that 3751 is a 4-8-4, not a 4-8-6. That's okay. It is a great engine. Maybe it can someday team up with 2926 and 2903

Dan, sorry to hear about the railroad job. Don't let it get you down. You can always try again, even for a different road.

Doug, that's a funny pic. Kinda looks like someone stole the wheels under it and left it on blocks. Rough neighborhood

Round for the house on me. (Just because)

Take care,

Russell


QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 21:22:27

LoL, Tom,
Socorro means help!! in Spanish.........

<G> More coffee, work again tonight.

Maby we could call it the "Warrior" or the "Brave", In the same vein as the Chief or the Scout.....
More after first rounds,
Gunns


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 21:56:56

Evenin' Guys .....
One Kokanee for Russell a cuppa Joe for Kevin .....

It's a 4-8-4; just difficult to determine from the angle that the photo was taken at. A great looking piece of machinery for sure! Thanx for the round ... ring the bell Boris

Hey - I like Warrior - that's a great handle for a train like you are putting together. Perhaps you'll rethink that music though .. think WWII.

Okay guys, time for me to check out as Leon the Night Man has ambled in - wearing his new Jump Boots of course!

See ya in the 'morrow!
Tom


QUOTE: passengerfan
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 22:40:06

Good evening all guess I'll have a Crown royal and how about a round for the house.
Thinking about naming that train and came up with the name WAMPUM because that is just what it's going to take lots of to get it running. Passenger cars are getting more and more difficult to find especially those in any kind of decent shape at all. And the prices just keep climbing as well. Insurance is another matter entirely, I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad news but getting any kind of operation going today on even a limited basis is extremely expensive and I wish you all the luck in the world. Only wish I was closer so I could watch the progress. Or maybe even get my hands dirty that would be a thrill in itself being part of the restoration of one of these man's finest pieces of machinery.

WAMPUM is cute – but I think WARRIOR is more in line with what this train is all about. [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 23:37:25

Evening, Leon
Beatles riff was a joke referencing the song Help... <G>
Actually if we do music, I like Jimmy Dorsey.

I like Warrior too.
Later
Gunns


QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 23:49:57

Hello again everyone. tom a kokanee would be wonderfull haven't had one in years. Ted Yes that was a near miss to be sure.from the looks of the plane I'm suprised anyone survied let alone just the 24 minor injuries. some divine intervention i think. sorry [#offtopic] Loen a round to the house on me. Tom Quite a party indeed and thanks for the summeries caught me up in no time.Nice picture link BTW.

Update on the first annual rendezvous. so far I'm looking at a possible TTC charter part of the day. With luck it will be affordable and what better way to enjoy the city than by streetcar? I'm hoping for a side trip to our museum and the Canadian warplane Herritage as well. Feed back please from those coming but we will keep it off forum. Tom or Ted can supply my email addy if you don't have it.

I was doing some cleaning out of old photo's and came across a couple interesting shots.First is a Brantford street railway DT car built by preston car and coach, Picture is from 1939 a year before my hometown removed the street railway. It's at the car barns which were about ten blocks from my house. They were torn down finally about 10 years ago for an appartment building. Some of the Line is still switched by CN which is something in itself. These shots are truley classic in keeping with our theme. All BSR cars were wood and of Preston car and coach manufacture. Though none still remain similar preston products still exist at our museum and at the Ft Edmonton facility and in Calgary's heritage Park.The second shot is one of the ubiquitous BSR single truckers on St OPaul Ave again blocks from my house . The third is the Terrace Hill line which ran to Paris Ontario and the last is the old BSR Barns themselves Enjoy. Talk to you all Tomorrow. Good nite all Rob


[yeah] Kokanee is a must beverage when we’re out in BC … love it, regular or light, good stuff! [tup]

A word about the Rendezvous – and this is for ALL to see: See the opening to this SUMMARY. The ball is in YOUR court, Rob – go for it! [tup]

NOTE: Scroll up for pix By the way, Rob they came out much to large ….. [tdn]

See ya!
Tom

QUOTE: wrwatkins
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 06:31:32

Good morning Tom et al.
They have a computer in the lounge so I can get a short message off. I might have a few typos as the lighting at the computer is poor and the letters on the keys are almost rubbed off. So here goes.

I will give a brief travelogue of our trip so far. We arrived in Central Station in Montrael after a short detour to Central BUS Station, which is about 5 miles from the rail station. This was clearly a mistake of the driver as he was definitely told RAIL. We were not the only people with the same problem. Really not a problem as we arrived at the central station with two hours before departure. Went to the kiosk machines to scan the bar code on my reservation to get the tickets. Could only get the ticket for my wife and not for me. Even tried two other machines and no success. Had to stand in line to see an agent who managed to get the ticket. The next problem was standing in the line to get signed in as a first class passenger. There was quite a line (a tleast 50 people in front of me). My wife waited in the Panorama lounge. The problem was that the agent did not show up until 6:00 when they were to start the boarding. Bad scene! Finally got to go down the first class escalator to the train. The compartment in the Park car was small but excellent. You really do not expect a compartment the size of a hotel room when the train is only 10 feet wide. The xonxierge in the Park car, Gary, was TERRIFIC!! He did a super job of caring for all of our needs. Considering the check in fiasco and the bus station we requested a drink from the bar. He said the bar would open after the train departed which was to be in 15 minutes. This was not to be. VIA had engine problems and we left 3 hours 15 minutes late. I am glad we signed up for the second seating for dinner. Those who had the first seating ate in the dark confines of the station. We at least were seated while the train crossed the St Laurence river. We planned to take some pictures of the scenery and sunset but this was not to be. Sitting in the dome car we could see daylight at the end of the tunnel (no pun intended) and slowly watch it fade. When we pulled out it was black outside. No photos on the outbound trip. It started to rain soon after leaving Montrael and continued to Treau (SP??). The view from the dome car was not that good due to the rain. they need windshield wipers. Sleeping was great. The train movement rocked us to sleep. My wife wanted the upper berth as she had never slept in one before. I slept in one during the winter of 1944-45. A lot was still the same after 60 years. It was over 60 years ago when I accompanied the porter on the Pennsylvania Railroad as he made the berths up. Not much has changed in the intervening years. We did manage to pick up 2 1/4 hours on the trip. The track between Campbelltown and Moncton, which is owned by New Brunswick RR needs a little TLC. The ride was a little rocky. Gary said that they have to slow down due to the track condition and usually arrive a little late due to this. This is the problem with the short lines and their deferred maintenance programs.

As to the train trip. WE LOVED IT. We would do it again even with the warts we experienced. The scenery was great. Getting near Halifax along the river was very similar to along the Skeena River on the Skeena in British Columbia, although the scenery along the Skeena was more mountanous. I highly recommend travel on VIA and will do it again!

More later. Now it is time for breakfast and other want the terminal. Did not have time to read the posts since last Thursday. Will try to do it when people are not hovering over me.

Cheers,
***

Greetings *** and nice to hear from you, although I’m very concerned about your experiences on leg #1 with VIA Rail. HOWEVER – if you’ve read my trip reports from May of this year – pages 12, 13 & 15 & 16, you will see many similarities. I’m no VIA Rail apologist – by any stretch – and it really saddens me to read of the deterioration experienced.

We had the same experience with the airport bus … we’ve traveled in from Dorval (now Trudeau) airport dozens of times over the span of 15 years. NEVER, ever had to go anywhere other than directly to Central Station. Our driver was absolutely RUDE and totally blew off our requests to get off the bus at the station – drove us all over Montreal. I made quite a scene at their depot, even got hold of a policeman – they finally gave in, put us aboard a mini-bus and drove us directly to the station. SEEMS THAT THE STOP AT VIA RAIL’S CENTRAL STATION was discontinued in Dec 2004 – but they aren’t very good at informing the traveling public. Had we known, we would have gotten off at the QE Hotel – on the other side of the station!

Ticketing? Again, nearly the same exasperation. Long lines, not very competent or friendly agent, etc. Long story – tell ya all about it in Dallas.

Train? PERFECT, except for the relatively poor condition of the obs dome forward glass. Been that way since Moby *** was a Minnow, even see it on the Canadien unless of course you happen to hit shortly after new glass replacement. Anyway, we’ve NEVER left Montreal late … ever. Also, they NEVER had seatings for dinner – this is the NEW tourist thing VIA has come up with for the Ocean. By the way, the attendants we’ve had always provided an adult beverage to us while we sat in the darkened obs dome awaiting departure. Probably yet another change …..[tdn]

New Brunswick bad track – again – in my trip reports as well (I took 2 complete round trips). It will remain that way unless and until NBEC sells out ….. used to be in great shape when CN owned it …….

I know Gary, by the way ..after 15 years of travel, it’s easy to know ‘em. [swg]

Hope the remainder of your adventure exceeds your expectations![tup]

Thanx for the report!
Tom

QUOTE: Theodorebear
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 06:49:38

Mornin' Tom yes that last Post of mine was done impromptu and hurridly.[oops] So, let me grab a "super sized" Java and a croissant to "put out the fire" from yesterday's "Happy Hour." Rob really neat pix of the BSR. I can't get used to Trolleys without poster boards festooned on front and sides. Gunns only kidding about the Beatles but Tom is probably right about "W.W.II;" maybe "Sentimental Journey, Chatanooga Choo Choo, Rock Island Line, Wabash Cannon Ball..." I know for sure passengerfan Al is "right" about the Wampum. Yes "Warrior" gets my vote also.

I thought Socorro was a species of Cactus much like the plant earlydiesels Dan Teqiula is derived. BTW Dan, if that job came with deceit and untruths; you don't want any part of it noway. Better to find out 'before' than 'after', right? I can only think the color of the A.T.S.F. (brown) that I recall must have been some faded form of the green or some other anomoly still to be dicussed. Pullman Green is darned near black, so I don't believe it could be any variation on that color. "Ah Sweet Mystery of Life..." (Nelson Eddy/Janet McDonald circa 1930's). I say Boris, what happened to my umbrella this time? Oh, you put it in the oven to dry-out!! Okay folks, good to see ya's and don't forget tomorrow is Fish Fry Night. Lots of Mackeral, Great Northern Pike and Bay of Fundy Flounder for your pleasure. Happy rails, Ted

Howdy Ted
Understand … let’s communicate with Rob by Email regarding the Rendezvous in May.

Oh yes, thanx for the plug for Fish Fry nite tomorrow … also Fish ‘n Chips! [tup]
Tom

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 12:30 PM
Things are a bit slow this week, so it's time for:

POST FROM THE PAST

From time to time I will post what should serve as examples to all of what this thread is all about. This one is from our member of The Legion of the Lost Nick - from page 5 -

QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 04:44:25

Posts: 147
Joined: 16 Apr 2005

Hey,Tom-another of those cold Molsons please and as it`s payday a round for the house,as and when they straggle in!! Well it`s a day off for me(the best sort-everyone else is working) and blowing a gale out there so time to sit a while. So,Ontario Northland,classic or not?...discuss....[takes me back to schooldays] Well ,first a disclaimer,I`ve never travelled on any of these lines,so all this is "received wisdom" picked up from the (un)official O.N. railfan site,but they caught my imagination. In part because of the manageable size of the outfit (in modelling terms) and partly the off the beaten track,frontier feel of the place. So,the trains, The Northlander runs daily from Toronto up to Cochrane via North Bay ( C.N. trackage to N.Bay ) Normal formation seems to be G.P.38-2,A.P.U (converted "B" unit for car heating ) 2 coaches and a food service car ( coverted G.O.cars ) until fairly recently,power was any one of the last 3 F.P.7a`s dating back to `51 or 2 but retro-fitted with 2000 hp Caterpiller prime movers. Also seen on this service although not sucessful and long withdrawn ,were a number of Dutch built Werkspoor T.E.E units. This service meets bus connections along the route serving the various `branches ` although It`s predecessor the Northland sleeper carried connecting portions and could include virtually anything. Heading north from Cochrane we have the Polar Bear Express,a summer-only tourist run up to Moosonee up in the arctic circle--this is usually a twin G.P38 lashup although Cochrane shed will happily use whats available,usually a dozen plus cars including domes,food service etc ( think these came from B.C.Rail and C.P.R . The Little Bear is the 3-times-weekly mixed to Moosonee--Beyond Cochrane you are in the tree line and the track is the only land route in or out so this is a community lifeline, The little bear runs about a dozen freight cars(lots of flats with big plant,containers etc,fuel tanks,general stores. According to season,a "canoe car" ( bulkhead flat with special racks fitted) and a "moose car" (50` box for dressed carcases) are available. so a thumbnail essay. Thats left me thirsty so same again and i`ll just perch over here at the end of the counter,take care now, nick


POST FROM THE PAST

Enjoy!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by West Coast S on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 1:04 PM
Morning Tom and the gang

Just catching up on the topics over the last several days and one in particular got my attention. The Santa Fe heavyweights in silver with black stripes were actually painted using a technique known as "Shadow Paint" for the three demensional effect.

I don't think more then half a dozen modernized chair cars were so done, and slight variations could be found in all. SF was pleased with the visual end result, but not the labor involved and thus decided not to persue it any further. Not only SF, FRISCO and BURLINGTON had a few heavyweights in "Shadow Paint".

As to the proper shade of green, it depends on age, enviroment, quality of paint plus the shop that did the painting, so variations would not be uncommon. SF passenger equiptment could be found frequently in pool service and if wreck repairs were effected by a host road, that too could effect the shade of green.


Not all SF heavyweights vanished to the scrap heap, a sizeable number of former MW heavyweights survived in storage as late as 1983 at Barstow,CA, they appeared to be in good condition, some with fresh aluminum paint and little modified from their revenue days, types included: fishbelly baggage cars, coaches, diners, RPOs and one ancient, orginally wood, rebuilt with steel sheathing, observation car with the rear platform fully enclosed. If I hadn't been distracted by the long line of retired F7B RC and Alco units stored on the adjacent track I would have recorded frame numbers and build dates for future lookup ..



Attention all passenger fans. A unsolicited, Shameless plug for Volume II SP sleepers and dormoritory cars from all car building years, available from the SP Historical Society. Ordered my copy yesterday

Well i'm off to sally up some more coffee and sticky buns and check my company E mail for anything of substance. I do have a temp assignment i'm awaiting orders for, followed by a second TDY to San Diego, looks like a busy month.

Until Later



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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 1:17 PM
G'day West Coast S Dave

Man, it's feast or famine with our West Coast Man of Mystery these days. Now you see him, now you don't! Well, glad you're back, so pull up that Reserved Stool and have a beer 'n some lunch! [tup]

Got part of my S-gauge order yesterday - three structures from Ameican Model Builders: Interlocking Tower - Yard Office and Gandy Dancer's Shack. I've used this manufacturer before on my HO Can-Am layout and really think highly of the quality. Looking forward to the construction. Still awaiting those trains - GP35 w/caboose - 2 box cars and a tank car. Going on 4 weeks .... Good Gawd Gertie, I don't think these people really care about making a buck! [:O] As I learned with my initial order, good things come to those who wait, 'n wait, 'n wait .... [:D]

Just think of the big bucks you'll have once your round(s) of temporary duty are finished. More to spend on - trains! [yeah]

By the by - the NEXT Birthday Bash is for Ted and is scheduled for Aug 16th at 8 PM (Eastern Time) - think you can make it [?] [(-D]

Read the SUMMARIES!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 1:21 PM
Hello everyone. A cold Kokanee, please. Supposed to be near the century mark today, again. The only thing good about hot weather is the women in their skimpy outfits!
Theodorebear and Russell, thanks for the words of encouragement. Sometimes I lie awake nights and wonder what it would be like to get paid for what I enjoy doing--running a locomotive. If it is meant to be, it will happen. As for a different rr, BNSF is the only game in town and no luck with them. The other rr approached me with the job, we were there for a train ride. After they changed tunes about important matters, we came to the same conclusion you did. I am glad their true nature was revealed before we moved over there.
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 1:26 PM
G'day earlydiesels Dan

You like that Kokanee, eh[?] Good stuff .... [tup]

You may be correct regarding hot weather - women and skimpy outfits. I prefer no outfits at all! [:-,][}:)]

Hey! Take another look and you'll find MY comments were FIRST in line. Geesh - Boris Ring the Bell, Dan's buying for violation of Rule #1! [yeah]

Take it slow .... [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by West Coast S on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 6:27 PM
Afternoon Tom and the gang.

Cheer up EarlyDiesel, your'e not alone. Prior to returning to the Government sector, I applied with the Yellow Borg "aka" UP for train service out of West Colton , for nine months I heard nothing, two weeks after having returned to duty with a four year commitmment, who should call but UP with an offer!

At least BNSF had the courtesy to reject me outright.
I also failed to accept a position with SP back in the day, more to stupidity then anything else..Age does indeed bring wisdom to all.


Tom, mystery man indeed, AM is still giving you fits, they seem to have no problem taking your money, odd they don't mess with me. They likely wonder who this lunaitic is that never orders anything complete, just ship it loose in the box[yeah] Appreciate the progress reports. Have you considered throwing your money at S Helper Service for the needed equiptment?

Ok Boris, if you can't do it, I will, a Philly cheesesteak sandwich with homefries,coleslaw and a bottomless draught if you'd please and slice of apple cobbler for dessert.

Dave [tup]
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 6:45 PM
G'day (again) Dave

Regarding the S-gauge situation: I'm too far along to change the order. Plus, SHS doesn't have what I want - that's the key. There really are only two sources of stuff as far as I'm concerned - AM and SHS. My intermediary, if you can call it that, is an outfit called Port Lines Hobbies.

My initial order included all the track and turnouts from SHS, along with a great looking F7A, a caboose and 5 freight cars.. AM provided an equally great looking EMD E8A and 4 streamlined passenger cars. So, I've got the best of both worlds, so to speak. The pending order with AM will round out my rolling stock, with a GP35, caboose and 3 more freight cars. The idea is to get the roadnames I want, especially with the loco and caboose. I'm sure you already know how difficult it is to locate S-gauge items by roadname, and of course, type of equipment. One gets very spoiled with HO in that nearly everything is not only available, but gets shipped right away.

So, my little 7x8 ft pike is taking form quite nicely. It will be exactly what I intended ... something to play with! [swg] Minimal structures and the like, just a focus on the important aspect - the trains!

Appreciate your interest - really do. There are times on these threads where one posts something supposedly of interest - and NEVER even receive so much as a "huh?"

See ya!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:19 PM
Howdy hi there everyone. Leon my friend I would like a guiness please.Tom sorry bout the pictures they were old and in large format shrunk them as best I could with the software I have available.best suggestion is don't click on them,the detail shows up fairly well in the as ;oaded jpeg. *** I'm glad the hessels haven't dampened your trip,i've never been inside a Park car ( or seen one up close ) no such critters on the corridor hopefully the return trip will allow for better picture taking. ted glad you enjoyed the shots. The BSR/BMR were a fairly long lived system 1893 to 1940. They had the usual Maguire cummings single truck sweepers and a dt sprinkler car as well. sadley none of the equipment was saved. I'm guessing wartime recycling claimed most of the railways physical plant.Brantford had electric railway connections up until 1956. The Grand River Railway and the Lake Erie and Northern still stopped down town. Tom Enjoyed the post from the past. Given me some rendezvous ideas[;)][:-,]. well gents im off for now. Rob
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, August 4, 2005 12:43 AM
Hi all,
Tom coffee please,
At work again, but are awating parts....
Did workday today rang the bell for the first time in 40 years!
Gonna take it esay tonight.
Gunns
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, August 4, 2005 6:53 AM
Well howdy Tom & gentlemen all,apologies for extended absence-it has only taken our alleged service provider and our national telecom organisation 6 weeks to trace and rectify the fault on our line-35 years ago we put men on the moon yet these bozos cant even maintain a simple 5 volt connection [banghead][banghead] will take some time out to read the previous 6 weeks postings and summaries and will hopefully be back in the loop sometime this evening,regards to all,back soon,nick [C=:-)]
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, August 4, 2005 6:56 AM
Hed Ted,I see you lurking behind the juke box-come & join us for a couple whilst I catch up [C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, August 4, 2005 8:06 AM
THURSDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)


NICK’s back!

Howdy folks! One more day ‘til the end of the work week (for most)! [yeah] Can’t think of a better place to start off than right here with The Mentor Village Bakery goods right over there in the pastry case – some hot Joe –and if you prefer, our light breakfast fare. [yeah][wow]

Tonight is our Fish ‘n Chips Nite and Interim Chief Chef, Ted’s Fish Fry Check the menu board …… it looks good. [swg]

Know what today is [?] Coast Guard Day! [yeah] Begun back in 1790, as the Revenue Marine and Revenue Cutter Service, present day outfit bills itself as the oldest continuing sea going service in the nation. Always good for a bet or two – and of course, a beer! [swg] [bday] U.S. Coast Guard! [tup][tup][tup] Some interesting stuff on:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/collect.html

The talk ‘round here needs to pick up a bit – MORE Classic Trains – c’mon guys, there are lots of stories out there … think about it and let’s share those experiences! Take a look at yesterday’s submission by our friend, *** – some present day insight about VIA Rail’s Ocean, operating in eastern Canada for over 100 years! That’s classic stuff! [tup]

REPEATED from yesterday: August 12th will represent the 4th month of ”Our” Place on the Forums. That’s not bad considering we only have a relative handful of guys who make this idea work. Any suggestions regarding something special on that day [?] Whatever we come up with, it has to be a bit different from our Birthday Bashes ……

2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST (rev. Aug 4th):

February 2nd (Kevin – 49)
March 5th (Nick – 45)
April 18 (Al - 63)
May 18th (Tom - 67)
May 27th (Dave - 46)
June 24th (Dan - 43)
July 15th (*** – 65)
July 25th (Chris - 51)
July 30th (Russell – 34)
August 16th (Ted - 67) NEXT UP! 8 PM (Eastern Time) on Tuesday, Aug 16th
September 8th (Rob - 34) Pick the time!

Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year).
Corrections too!

Time to SUMMARIZE, minus many smilies, graphics and photos.

QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 12:30:04


Things are a bit slow this week, so it's time for:

POST FROM THE PAST

From time to time I will post what should serve as examples to all of what this thread is all about. This one is from our member of The Legion of the Lost Nick - from page 5
===============================================
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 04:44:25

Posts: 147
Joined: 16 Apr 2005

Hey,Tom-another of those cold Molsons please and as it`s payday a round for the house,as and when they straggle in!! Well it`s a day off for me(the best sort-everyone else is working) and blowing a gale out there so time to sit a while. So,Ontario Northland,classic or not?...discuss....[takes me back to schooldays] Well ,first a disclaimer,I`ve never travelled on any of these lines,so all this is "received wisdom" picked up from the (un)official O.N. railfan site,but they caught my imagination. In part because of the manageable size of the outfit (in modelling terms) and partly the off the beaten track,frontier feel of the place. So,the trains, The Northlander runs daily from Toronto up to Cochrane via North Bay ( C.N. trackage to N.Bay ) Normal formation seems to be G.P.38-2,A.P.U (converted "B" unit for car heating ) 2 coaches and a food service car ( coverted G.O.cars ) until fairly recently,power was any one of the last 3 F.P.7a`s dating back to `51 or 2 but retro-fitted with 2000 hp Caterpiller prime movers. Also seen on this service although not sucessful and long withdrawn ,were a number of Dutch built Werkspoor T.E.E units. This service meets bus connections along the route serving the various `branches ` although It`s predecessor the Northland sleeper carried connecting portions and could include virtually anything. Heading north from Cochrane we have the Polar Bear Express,a summer-only tourist run up to Moosonee up in the arctic circle--this is usually a twin G.P38 lashup although Cochrane shed will happily use whats available,usually a dozen plus cars including domes,food service etc ( think these came from B.C.Rail and C.P.R . The Little Bear is the 3-times-weekly mixed to Moosonee--Beyond Cochrane you are in the tree line and the track is the only land route in or out so this is a community lifeline, The little bear runs about a dozen freight cars(lots of flats with big plant,containers etc,fuel tanks,general stores. According to season,a "canoe car" ( bulkhead flat with special racks fitted) and a "moose car" (50` box for dressed carcases) are available. so a thumbnail essay. Thats left me thirsty so same again and i`ll just perch over here at the end of the counter,take care now, nick
================================================

POST FROM THE PAST

Enjoy!

Tom



QUOTE: West Coast S
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:04:12

Morning Tom and the gang

Just catching up on the topics over the last several days and one in particular got my attention. The Santa Fe heavyweights in silver with black stripes were actually painted using a technique known as "Shadow Paint"

I don't think more then half a dozen chair cars were so done, and slight variations could be found in all. SF was pleased with the visual end result, but not the labor involved and thus decided not to persue it any further. Not only SF, FRISCO and BURLINGTON had a few heavyweights in "Shadow Paint" so the following paragraph my have some truth to it.

"Shadow Paint" may have been linked with the aircraft industry who were seeking a final finish for bombers that would reduce the overall profile to enemy intercepters. The added benefit that it blended with lightweight equipment was the icing on the cake. This would make a great research project for one so inclined.

Not all heavyweights vanished to the scrap heap, SF maintained a sizeable heavyweight fleet in MW service at Barstow, at the time they were in good condition and little modified from their revenue days. Included were several fishbelly baggage cars, coaches, diners, RPOs and one ancient observation car with the rear platform enclosed.

Am I the only one who purchased the newest publication on SP sleepers and Crew Dorimitory cars for all carbody eras, published for the SP Historical Society? I highly recommend it even at the $125.00 purchase price. My copy should be arriving this week sometime.


Well i'm off to sally up some more coffee and sticky buns and check my company E mail for anything of substance. I do have a temp assignment i'm awaiting orders for, followed by a second TDY to San Diego, looks like a busy month.

Until Later

Dave



QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:17:24

G'day West Coast S Dave

Man, it's feast or famine with our West Coast Man of Mystery these days. Now you see him, now you don't! Well, glad you're back, so pull up that Reserved Stool and have a beer 'n some lunch!

Got part of my S-gauge order yesterday - three structures from Ameican Model Builders: Interlocking Tower - Yard Office and Gandy Dancer's Shack. I've used this manufacturer before on my HO Can-Am layout and really think highly of the quality. Looking forward to the construction. Still awaiting those trains - GP35 w/caboose - 2 box cars and a tank car. Going on 4 weeks .... Good Gawd Gertie, I don't think these people really care about making a buck! As I learned with my initial order, good things come to those who wait, 'n wait, 'n wait ....

Just think of the big bucks you'll have once your round(s) of temporary duty are finished. More to spend on - trains!

By the by - the NEXT Birthday Bash is for Ted and is scheduled for Aug 16th at 8 PM (Eastern Time) - think you can make it [?]

Read the SUMMARIES!

Tom



QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:21:07

Hello everyone. A cold Kokanee, please. Supposed to be near the century mark today, again. The only thing good about hot weather is the women in their skimpy outfits!
Theodorebear and Russell, thanks for the words of encouragement. Sometimes I lie awake nights and wonder what it would be like to get paid for what I enjoy doing--running a locomotive. If it is meant to be, it will happen. As for a different rr, BNSF is the only game in town and no luck with them. The other rr approached me with the job, we were there for a train ride. After they changed tunes about important matters, we came to the same conclusion you did. I am glad their true nature was revealed before we moved over there.


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:26:50

G'day earlydiesels Dan

You like that Kokanee, eh[?] Good stuff ....

You may be correct regarding hot weather - women and skimpy outfits. I prefer no outfits at all!

Hey! Take another look and you'll find MY comments were FIRST in line. Geesh - Boris Ring the Bell, Dan's buying for violation of Rule #1! [yeah]

Take it slow ....

Tom


QUOTE: West Coast S
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 18:27:10

Afternoon Tom and the gang.

Cheer up EarlyDiesel, your'e not alone. Prior to returning to the Government sector, I applied with the Yellow Borg "aka" UP for train service out of West Colton , for nine months I heard nothing, two weeks after having returned to duty with a four year commitment, who should call but UP with an offer!

At least BNSF had the courtesy to reject me outright.
I also failed to accept a position with SP back in the day, more to stupidity then anything else..Age does indeed bring wisdom to all.

Tom, mystery man indeed, AM is still giving you fits, they seem to have no problem taking your money, odd they don't mess with me. They likely wonder who this lunaitic is that never orders anything complete, just ship it loose in the box Appreciate the progress reports. Have you considered throwing your money at S Helper Service for the needed equiptment?

Ok Boris, if you can't do it, I will, a Philly cheesesteak sandwich with homefries,coleslaw and a bottomless draught if you'd please and slice of apple cobbler for dessert.

Dave



QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 18:45:09


G'day (again) Dave

Regarding the S-gauge situation: I'm too far along to change the order. Plus, SHS doesn't have what I want - that's the key. There really are only two sources of stuff as far as I'm concerned - AM and SHS. My intermediary, if you can call it that, is an outfit called Port Lines Hobbies.

My initial order included all the track and turnouts from SHS, along with a great looking F7A, a caboose and 5 freight cars.. AM provided an equally great looking EMD E8A and 4 streamlined passenger cars. So, I've got the best of both worlds, so to speak. The pending order with AM will round out my rolling stock, with a GP35, caboose and 3 more freight cars. The idea is to get the roadnames I want, especially with the loco and caboose. I'm sure you already know how difficult it is to locate S-gauge items by roadname, and of course, type of equipment. One gets very spoiled with HO in that nearly everything is not only available, but gets shipped right away.

So, my little 7x8 ft pike is taking form quite nicely. It will be exactly what I intended ... something to play with! Minimal structures and the like, just a focus on the important aspect - the trains!

Appreciate your interest - really do. There are times on these threads where one posts something supposedly of interest - and NEVER even receive so much as a "huh?"

See ya!
Tom



QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 23:19:08

Howdy hi there everyone. Leon my friend I would like a Guiness please.Tom sorry bout the pictures they were old and in large format shrunk them as best I could with the software I have available.best suggestion is don't click on them, the detail shows up fairly well in the as ;oaded jpeg. *** I'm glad the hessels haven't dampened your trip,i've never been inside a Park car ( or seen one up close ) no such critters on the corridor hopefully the return trip will allow for better picture taking. ted glad you enjoyed the shots. The BSR/BMR were a fairly long lived system 1893 to 1940. They had the usual Maguire cummings single truck sweepers and a dt sprinkler car as well. sadly none of the equipment was saved. I'm guessing wartime recycling claimed most of the railways physical plant.Brantford had electric railway connections up until 1956. The Grand River Railway and the Lake Erie and Northern still stopped down town. Tom Enjoyed the post from the past. Given me some rendezvous ideas . well gents im off for now. Rob


Hi Rob Regarding the Rendezvous – in a word: TRAINS m’boy TRAINS! [swg]

Amazing isn’t it [?] I post a POST FROM THE PAST from Nick and who should appear on that very evening [?] Nick himself! [yeah]
Tom

QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 04 Aug 2005, 00:43:19

Hi all,
Tom coffee please,
At work again, but are awaiting parts....
Did workday today rang the bell for the first time in 40 years!
Gonna take it easy tonight.
Gunns

Taking it easy is what ”Our” Place should be all about! [tup]
Tom
QUOTE: nickinwestwales
Posted: 04 Aug 2005, 06:53:59

Well howdy Tom & gentlemen all,apologies for extended absence-it has only taken our alleged service provider and our national telecom organisation 6 weeks to trace and rectify the fault on our line-35 years ago we put men on the moon yet these bozos cant even maintain a simple 5 volt connection will take some time out to read the previous 6 weeks postings and summaries and will hopefully be back in the loop sometime this evening,regards to all,back soon,nick

[#welcome] Back, Nick! [yeah][wow][swg] No need to apologize for something completely out of your conrol …. Cyber Gremlilns, et al, seemingly have had you and Chris in Montreal tied in knots for too long a time. Very happy that you’re back and of course, my guess is, things will get back to some semblance of normalcy regarding Boris!

I might have known that you’d take the time to review the posts and SUMMARIES, that’s one of the reasons why you hold the prestigious position as Order of the Permanent Stool [wow]

Looking forward to your resumption of duties as Chief Chef [C=:-)] ‘round here.

By the by, as you may have found out, Ted has assumed the duties of Manager and Interim Chief Chef. He’s really filled quite a void in your absence!

Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales
Posted: 04 Aug 2005, 06:56:49

Hed Ted,I see you lurking behind the juke box-come & join us for a couple whilst I catch up

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen the guys cyber handles on this thread – but nothing gets posted. Happened about 4 times yesterday from people that I would have thought had something to say – but, nope – they just checked out. Strange, indeed. Perhaps you frightened Ted away – after all, the Ghosts of Kitchen’s Past [C=:-)] must be looming quite large in the kitchen these days! [swg]

Tom

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, August 4, 2005 8:14 AM
Okay,getting there slowly,up to about pge 55,Tom a large cold one please and one yourself, right-on behalf of my fellow Brits,many thanks to all for your kind thoughts of recent weeks. People have been throwing things at us since Roman times and a few loonies with handbags full of sugar & weedkiller aren`t going to achieve much-the Luftwaffe did thier best as did the I.R.A-all they managed was to **** us off-this bunch of chancers might as well give it all up now. Tom-havn`t figured the "mentor" reference yet-my guess would be the name of your first ship ? -right,tasks to attend to,back later for some fish`n`chips,regards,nick [C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, August 4, 2005 8:27 AM
Mornin' (here) Nick [swg]
Resolve just has to be a Brit thing for if ever a people exemplified a word, you and yours past and present surely do! Backbone is where it's at in my book. [tup][tup][tup]

That silly Quiz of mine with the Mentor buisness began innocently enough - then I discovered that no one was picking up on it - meaning, no reading. So being my anal self, I just kept it going ..... the answer has been posted many times and as you progress through the pages, you'll uncover the secret! [swg]

As I'm typing this I see your cyber name up and I can't emphasize enough just how good it is to have you amongst us again. Things 'round here perked along - some good days, some quite slow - but never the same wtihout Nick and the warped sense of humor (humour) you bring to the table ...... [;)]

By the by, were the Emails getting through during this period of difficulty [?] I know the guys were trying to let you know that we've been thinking about you ...... Nonetheless, that's history and before too long, you and Boris will be back in the thick of it all! [}:)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 8:42 AM
[C=:-)] "For he's a jolly good fellow...!" Great to see you back Nick! Your Chef's Whites are awaiting you with my profound blessings. The meager efforts I made as a substitute are now at an "official" end.[:D] Boris was well cared for during your absence and only the management and clientele are any the "worse for wear."[:O] As you peruse the "Summaries," notice there are new Members to meet and greet. All are very erstwhile and welcomed as excellent Contributors to "Our" Place as, I'm sure, Tom has confirmed. I won't take time away from your reviewing more than to say: Welcome Back![bow]

Speaking of "taking up time," the yard clippings and trimmings require immediate action from yours truly.[V] It has taken several days for that stuff to dry-up enough for bagging. I don't complain about the heat, knowing what Rob, Gunns, barndad and other restoration PHD's are going through this summer. BTW, before I must sign-off, the August Issue of Walther's sales catolog(ue) has some pretty incredible HO prices pp. 60 thru 62.[swg] Also, if you haven't checked out the data on the annual meeting that Gunns has mentioned...do yourself a favor.[tup][tup][tup]

I'll have a "bracer" of Gin, tonic and a quarter lime if you please Tom Here's to your progress on the S scale layout and may you never drop a spike or split a tie. Rob, "snail mail" is on the way. G'day all, see ya's soon, Ted

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, August 4, 2005 9:01 AM
My Fall 2005 issue of Classic Trains arrived yesterday and as always, it's chock full of good stuff about the subject 'round here - Classic Trains!. [yeah] That's the forum we're on and why this thread was begun .....

Page 98 has a fantastic photo of the former Canadian National Railways terminal in Vancouver, BC, Canada. My wife and I have been in that building on our cross-Canada round trips from Toronto on 4 occasions and it's a great edifice to railroading history.

A quote from Classic Trains Fall 2005, page 98
QUOTE: Mackenzie and Mann's Vancouver monument

William Mackenzie and Donald Mann began assemblilng the Canadian Northern system in the 1890's. A mix of new construction and acquired lines, their railway evetually spanned from Montreal to the Pacific coast. But Mackenzie and Mann's dream of a second (after Canadian Pacific) great private Canadian system collapsed in 1918, when finacial difficulties caused the CNoR to fall into government hands, and thus was born Canadian National Railways. Perhaps Mackenzie and Mann's greatest achievement was the construction of a new line from Winnipeg via Edmonton to Vancouver - 1570 miles across the prairies, through the mountains, and down the Thompson and Fraser river canyons. The CNoR reached the growing port city in 1915, and the next year opened this fine passenger terminal just southeast of downtown. After decades of playing second-fiddle to Canadian Pacific's waterfront staion, this building is now Vancouver's primary depot, serving ViA Rail Canada, Amtrak, and the Rocky Mountaineer tour train (West Coast Express commuter trains use the CP station). It even has a new name - Pacific Central - which is spelled out on the roof in giant illuminated letters like the ones in the Canadian National sign seen here [in the pix].


Sure brings back some happy memories for me - last time there was January 2003 on our return trip to Toronto over the New Year's holiday week.

My photo taken in Jan 2003 ... click to enlarge.


Hope all of you subscribe to this great magazine ...... I'm a newcomer to it, and really enjoy it. Been with Model Railroader since the mid-60's, however.

See ya! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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