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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:58 AM
Hello everyone. I will take a cold, bottomless draught, please. Tom, I have been reading the threads and the summaries but have'nt felt like responding. Sometimes I just like to watch and not speak. Dad said I'd learn more that way.
The Midland is about 35 miles SW of the Kansas City metro area. Take I35 south to the Gardner exit then take 56 highway to Baldwin City. Just drive to the elevator when you get to town and look for the signs.
Good to hear of a passenger car being preserved-especially a Harriman RPO. Any kind of passenger car is hard to find these days,regardless of condition. If they can be found, they will be expensive.
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:49 AM
Hello earlydiesels Dan Good to see you again and I'm happy to know that someone out there is reading this stuff! [swg]

About the only thing I recall my father passing on to me was something like, If you don't ask 'em first, they can't say no! [;)]

This isn't a bad place to sit and listen - especially with old Juke back there playing some of those great train songs we've loaded up on. Check 'em out - drop a few quarters in from that jar sitting on the little table next to the Jukep\ - 5 plays for a quater - can't beat that with a stick. [swg]

By the by - this coming Friday is the BIRTHDAY BASH for *** at 9 AM CDST So, I hope to see you as close to that time as possible. [tup]

Ready for 'nother one[?]
Tom

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:10 PM
Back again. I'll take on appetizer and a cold brew to wash it down with, Tom. I'll stroll over to the jukebox and see just exactly what is on it. I am in the mood for something out of the ordinary. Any recommendations?
For those interested, the Midland is enduring the annual Thomas The Tank Engine event and will not have regular service until 23 July. Don't take me wrong-- Thomas is a great income source but the logistics and the planning and the volunteer hours are just exhausting! The past 3 times we have had Thomas, I have been (real) engineer but this time we have decided to sit this one out. The first year, I did not have a fireman and did not leave the cab until days end! I have observed that we have some volunteers that help only during special events(especially if the media are present) and these same people are nonexistant the rest of the time. These people are welcome to help now. When it is 100degrees out with 100% humidity these people are nowhere to be found. I personally enjoy regular events more than the special events. I have more of a chance to visit and help folks enjoy their time here. With Thomas, we give 25 minute rides and back at the depot, passengers detrain on one side and entrain on the other. From the cab, it resembles a livestock auction.
Another cold brew, please. One special event we have is where we open up the restored KCS RPO car and have retired postal clerks ride and answer questions. They sell postcards with special RPO markings that are ready to be used. It's interesting to think most mail used to be sorted in these cars years ago.
On the local front, our museum received an old baggage cart for display. We are going to have it sandblasted and then we will repaint it. No one seems to know the exact shades of paint, though. Any answers from our knowledgeable group?? I am supposed to write up a easy to read description of our loco for display to be seen from the front gate. I have'nt started yet but it should'nt take very long to write.
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:59 PM
Afternoon, earlydiesels Dan A rainy day here in Mentor Village, just a stones throw from the CP yard and right down the road from that all female university that Cindy teaches at ....... wonder what she teaches[?] [}:)]

Your comments regarding volunteers brings back many memories of decades past. It really is pretty much across the board when it comes to motives for many people when they volunteer. While my offerings of free time haven't been with railroading, I have done the responsible thing when it came to Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, youth baseball and serving as a police officer with my local PD. Of course, the longest tour of volunteerism for me lasted 32 years - and that was with the U.S. Coast Guard on active duty. But, that's not what either of us are talking about ........

It never failed that when the chips were down the same few people always showed up to take up the slack with whatever the duties. I got involved with baseball when I signed up one of my boys, only to find out that the team couldn't be in the league unless someone signed on as Manager. Guess who[?] Then my youngest son announced that his Cub Pack was about to fold up because they didn't have ANY Den Mothers. So, guess what happened[?] I became a Den Mother - and this was back in the days BEFORE our society considered itself enlightened or whatever the term is used these days! As an Eagle Scout and all of that, it really wasn't a hard thing for me, but it kinda ticked me off to think that the Pack absolutely would've fallen apart if it hadn't have been for a couple of guys who came to the rescue and eventually shamed the gals into taking over the jobs. Crazy, huh? Then of course the Boy Scouts always needed someone, usually at the last moment, to drive the boys to a campout AND stay the night ...... etc., etc., etc. It truly never bothered me to do these things, for my boys were involved and as a kid, someone did it for me. The thing that DID get to me, was the same people,over and over, always had the excuses, and the same people, over and over, always did the work. Ain't that the way it goes[?] Some you win, some you lose, and others are rained out! [;)]

Hey Boris set 'em up ...... this is all [#offtopic] - and, oh [yeah] ring the bell! [tup][swg]

Tunes on the Juke[?] One thing nice about a cyber bar 'n grill, you'll find exactly what you're looking for .......... and, you can't beat the price! [;)]

Enjoy the day! [tup][;)]
Tom
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:24 PM
Good afternoon, Y'all. Another hot one in Big D today. Tom, if you have a big glass please fill it up with the cold bubbly stuff (NOT champagne!). I see it cropped up again-my referring to Tom as Housekeep. I guess I will never live that one down. I bet that I will take a ribbing for it on Friday at nine. Do not let me drink during our meeting on Friday. My wife has invited several neighbors in to celebrate the big 65. I do not think it would be cool to arrive home under the alfluence of incohol.

Think that management here is trying to tell me something and I might be too dumb to pick up on it. Two weeks ago they sent me to Libya. Next week they are sending me to London where I will have to ride the Underground. And to top it all off they booked me into a hotel in the Belgravia area that is owned by an Arab company. Are they trying to tell me something???

Please do not take this next comment as demeaning to the poor souls who were hurt or killed in the bomb blasts. I mean no disrespect to their memory. Well--here goes. The radical Arabs did not set the bombs. It was the French and they did it because they are mad about looosing the 2012 Olympics.

Enough sick humor. Back to the subject of this pub. Has anyone been to Alaska and rode on the cruise lines train cars to Denali that they tie on to the end of the Alaska RR passenger trains? I have not had that pleasure, but have seen the cars. They are built by Colorado Rail Car outside Denver and are BEAUTIFUL. Bob Raiders, the CEO of Colorail Car is my friend and he has brought the cars to several conventions to showcase them. They are plush!!! Malacite panels, etched glass, great bar, two observation decks (it is a bilevel car) with an elevaor to the upper level. All this for less than $3 million. Think I will buy a couple for personal use (Note to Bob Raiders-Do not try to cash my check!) I tried to purchase one for Trinity Railway Express to use as a bar car on the rush hour train to Fort Worth while I was on the DART board. Could not get it over due to budgetary poroblems and the concerns of the *&^%$ agency lawyers.

This may be considered heresy by Tom, but there is an interesting thread on the regular TRAINS forum dealing withe restoring a GG-1 to service. Since I have rode behind one several times I would love to see this happen, but do not hold your breath.

Cheers,
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:09 PM
Howdy ***[C):-)] Was beginning to think we'd not see you until YOUR Birthday Bash this Friday at 9 AM CDST! [tup][;)]

How about a nice tall frosty mug of Texas Pride[?] Just happen to have a case of 'em in long necks, regular & light, of course! [tup][swg]

In this day and age, all kidding aside, trying to attach a motive to such a horrendus act simply cannot rule out any plausible lead. You're not hurting MY feelilngs one bit regarding those people on the Continent who have backup lilghts on their military vehicles for a reason .......... [}:)]

GG1's[?] My FAVORITE loco's of all time. Rode behind a few of 'em myself and loved to watch 'em pull into the station. Great engines. Have a Pennsy in Tuscan and one in Brunswick Green, both with 5 stripes - in my retired HO display cases. Ahhhhhhh, those were the days.

Custom built railcars - now that would be my dream - just to have something like that. I'd go for a refurbished more modern one though. Since my preference lies with the Budd stainless steel beauties, mine would be the observation dome (ie: VIA Rail Park car) - oh could I have fun redesigning it to my specs ........ Now all I've got to do is lline up the funding. I suppose I could raise the prices 'round here! [tdn] Nah ......... [:D]

Glad you stopped by and hope you'll come back at least one more time before YOUR big day!

Tom


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:17 PM
Hi all!

I've been reading this thread for quite some time, but have never posted. It's been interesting to find out more about the people who are here, as well as learning more about trains in general. When I saw the posts about Thomas and volunteerism, I decided it was time to jump in. I left my credit card at the cash register to cover the 1st round.
I am a new volunteer on the Steam Team at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union Illinois. We're workin on a number of projects, including the restoration of a 1900 Baldwin Consolidation (UP428). Saturdays are when most of our volunteer time is logged, and only a handful make it to the shop more than once a week. We could literally use hundreds of more volunteers even if all our rolling stock was 100% restored. We probably have another 100 years worth of projects that need doing.
Siberianmo has noticed the same thing as me when it comes to volunteers. Wherever volunteers are used, whether it be church, scouts, or sports, there is always a handful of people who do the bulk of the work, and you see these same people wherever you go.
By the way, what used to be known as "Den Mothers", are now "Den Leaders", and this position is no longer considered a womans job. As a matter of fact, the Cubmaster position is no longer reserved for men. There are very few professional Scouters in the Scouting structure. Almost everyone is a volunteer. As District Commisioner, it was always my pleasure to work with my fellow volunteers. Some of the finest people I have ever met, I met through Scouting. It was also no surprise to find these same outstanding and selfless individuals involved in other volunteer positions outside of Scouting. Even Volunteers who only show now and then are needed. The more hands you have, the more you can get done. Everyone should be encouraged to contribute.
We also have some Thomas Days, and it's my understanding that we pretty much get the bulk of our funding from this event. The actual event has been described to me as a zoo, but the kids love it, and we sure need the money! I'm also told we need every volunteer we can get. We even pay groups who aren't remotely affiliated with the Museum to fill these spots. I'll probably take some time from work to help this year. I'll let you know how it went!
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:40 PM
[#welcome]Aboard barndad - If you've been checking us out for awhile, then you know the first drink is on the house! [tup][;)][;)]

Part of the standard bill of fare must be repeated for all new customers -
We are an adult cyber bar 'n grill hoping to atract interest in Classic Trains real and model. We also like to have some fun while doing so ...... [swg] So, we've got quite a cast of characters around here .......

I encourage everyone who visits us to start at the beginning and when you get to the SUMMARIES check 'em out ........ a quicker way to get up to speed for sure. [tup]

We hope that our cyber bar 'n grill will be a stop off point for you and perhaps you'll become one of our regulars. No matter - you're welcome 'round here whenever you'd like .......

Regarding your comments, I'm up to speed with the Scouting program. With three Eagles in my family, it's hard not to keep up. I'm not at all in favor of uni-sex anything. But respect those who have different opinions. Time will be the ultimate judge, and I think we're seeing some not so favorable signs these days of this social experiment. I'm a "boys will be boys" kinda guy and will be so until it's my time for planting.

Okay, Boris ring the ding-dong Bell - drinks on the house for being [#offtopic].

Enjoy your visit! [tup][;)]

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place
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Posted by Gunns on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:59 PM
Ahh its cool in here, hi all!
Another tall one, I just got back from the photo run, pix on the way.
barndad do you have a Builders plate on your 2903? I am casting replacments for ours <the 2926> and if you have the plate I could use a pic, and if you dont, I could change the pattern and make Ya'll a set. Your work number should be 69791, <it is cast in to the boiler steam dome on the front> also ours was a park engine for 40 years, and has been badly stripped of gauges and data plates, I also need a copy,/photo of the plate on the backhead that has the MWP on it. We are collecting a set of instruments, <allready have the big dbl sided steam gauge> but picx would help in restoring the piping and handles. They even got our bell clapper..... and I need to find some wroght iron to make a new one.

photos....
Here is a closer shot of the cabbose.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aar

And the Missile command car.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aas?full=1

Thies are the roller bearing trucks that will go to the cabbose, and the ambulance kitchen car in the background, note the wide door, that will make it a good tool car.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aau?full=1

Here is a shot of the back side of the kitchen.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aat?full=1

And here is a shot of the trucks for the tender. <My CMO told me they weigh 22.5 tons not 11>
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aav

Somthing else I am hurting for will be the tech manuals fron the Army for our cars, it would help when we get to restoring them.

Thanks,
Gunns
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Posted by Gunns on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:06 PM
Another bier,
Greetings Tom and Ya'll.

Yet another question <G>, What do I need to do to get certified as an Engineer? we are gonna need 6 or so in the club for extended runs, and I wanted to know where to start?

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:37 PM
Evenin' Gunns Kevin Pull up one of those Reserved Stools for our Regular customers and sit a spell .......

We've got the Baseball All Star Game on all 3 of our large screen TV's ....... should be an enjoyable event. [tup]

Can't help ya with that Engineer Certification, unless of course a blessing from "Our" Place would help. I'm sure the Right Rev. Boris would certify you! [swg]

Enjoy! [tup][;)]

Tom
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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:09 PM
Good evening everyone.First off Tom i think a Crown with a Black label chaser.Glad that you got your rain we are still waiting.We have had only 10mm since the 16th of June[XX(] [#welcome] To barndad another museum vollenteer to boot [tup]As has been said already you do get a dedicated few to man most things. Our museum's membership is well over 400 members but only the board and the dedicated core are around likely 40 or so.In our case we have members that literally span the globe,so in many cases distance allows some to only be around once or twice a year if at all.We certainly have enough projects to keep as going till the second comming as well.early The thomas events are great number boosters. We have been trying to get a three day weekend at the museum but the logistics are a nightmare.For starters we would likely have to build one ourselves as our track guage is not standard.The museum is set for TTC guage which is unfortunatly broader 4'107/8".Instead we do two night Halloween shows in which we turn two of our carbarns into haunted houses,great fun for the kiddies and we usually see 1500-2000 people over the two shows.gunns Good pictures again sir[tup] The only suggestion I have for your engineering qualifications i would think would be to check your transportation regulators. There has to be a specified coarse. Won't likley be cheap however. Up here Transport Canada would handle these type of inquiries as they are the rule enforcers. With our museum we use our own training program it's home designed but is based on general rail rules as well as general safety / common sence type stuff. we use a graduated licencing system where you right a rules test ( 90% to pass ) rewritten every three years. Then oncar training starting with the easier { Pter Whitt's } then onto 327 the open handbrake car then to the PCC's and after that you move onto the train brake cars ( interurbans )You have two road tests one for probationary status then the second for your perm. status on each vehicle. The usual demerrit point system if one screws up etc. Sounds daunting but when you have a carload of passengers everythingMUST be perfect.Al A usual cpmplete above and beyond answer thank-you [tup] It's nice to see that there was some pullmans up here. Makes sence that they ran on the US subsidiaries.Ted Didn't want to leave you out. I'm waiting to praise your modelling efferts. As a side i have won an ebay auction for anold uncle walthers single truck double ended street car. 60's vintage. It looks like it was a loose model of a safety car of some kind.double ended to boot. I'll post a pic or two when I pick it up.( waiting at th4 post office as we speak but I have to go run the real thing tomorrow so I won't grab it till tomorrow night.Have a good night everyone. Rob
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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:29 PM
I just noticed that I did miss a couple people.Tom So it's you that's going to be writing the book. That's fine I'm sure Al won't mind helping you edit and scale basck to less than a thousand pages; [;)][:D][:0] I know that Boris has expressed an intrest in helping you cut and paste the pictures( you know how he likes paste. caught him spreading a glue stick on some toast again)[:0][xx(]*** I have liked the GG1's from afar bit big for my taste but certainly an attractive unit. Which one is possibly undergoing this transformation?Don't count out it being done. Money might be all that could hold it up. Electric railway equipment is tuff and rugged,you would be supprised what can be restored and operated.Electrics are much simpler beasts than steam or diesel.That cruise sounded interesting I not gone as far north as Alaska. Prince George BC is my highpoint that and Moose Factory in Ontario.Ome of my fav cruise locations is in central Ontario at Gravenhurst. The Muskoka Steamship society run the 186 year old RMS Segwun and a new Diesel powered mate they built themselves in 2002 the RMS Wenonah 2. Dinner dance and siteseeing cruises on all three Muskoka Lakes. Travelling on the Segwun is interesting in that she operates on a hand fired scotch boiler. Something else on a 215' steamer and shell still do her top speed of 16 knotts! I was hoping to book us a cruise during the rendevous next year but they don't commence their season until mid june[:(] This is a shot of Wenonah tthey built her along the lines of the rest of the fleet so she looks like a turn of the century(20th)steamer herself. Along with the Segwun and the Eaton family steam yaught Wanda 3 Segwun is the only ship left of the Muskoka Fleet. Enjoy the shot/ Talk to you all tomorrow. Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:45 AM
WEDNESDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

Good Morning All ……. Mid-week once again and it’s time for another great day here at ”Our” Place. Had quite a few interesting posts yesterday as business picked up a bit …… [tup]

Reminder for all: Birthday Bash for *** this Friday at 9 AM, CDST! Let’s try to get logged on as close to that time as possible in order to catch the man live! [yeah]

To the SUMMARY

QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 12 July 2005, 10:04:27

Hi All,
It's my Sat, <G> and I have some time.
A tall Pilzner Bitte.

Passengerfan The cars don’t glow but there is this black box on the frame now......<G>

Theodorbear Dem jets aren't in here.... I "Got" a Me262, the other day, I was in my "Jug" a P47-D25, the Gomer zoomed up in front of me and just hung there...... gotta love them 8 .50s. As for the Georgia, we would be proud to pull that one. The wife and I are kinda thinking of findin a car to fit up into a vacation home, but the rules Amtrak has for pulling them are tough, of course we will have access to our War Baby......

Every one thanks for the car info, with such a wide selection, I'll let the other members do the picking.

Trainnut484 I Think I'll run down to the storage site, and shoot some pics of the caboose, and put them up....

Ahhh Breakfast,
Gunns


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Posted: 12 July 2005, 10:25:51

Morning Gunns - Well if it's your Saturday then how about some steak 'n eggs[?] We can make an exception to the light breakfast fare around here - I'm close to the Proprietor.

With all this talk of restorations, museums and vintage rail cars, I think I'll schedule a trip over to the Museum of Transport one morning next week. Predictions of rain - some heavy - for the remainder of this week, will keep me home.

Have to get on with the landscaping work for my S-gauge layout. Now that the wiring is done, I'm concentrating on building up the terrain. Can't go too high, for this layout gets stored up in the basement joists - 4-point hoist system. If you haven't done so, why not check out the photo's on my site[?] http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber - then go to page 5.

Enjoy the day and thanx for stopping by!
Tom


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Posted: 12 July 2005, 10:58:04

Hello everyone. I will take a cold, bottomless draught, please. Tom, I have been reading the threads and the summaries but haven’t felt like responding. Sometimes I just like to watch and not speak. Dad said I'd learn more that way.
The Midland is about 35 miles SW of the Kansas City metro area. Take I35 south to the Gardner exit then take 56 highway to Baldwin City. Just drive to the elevator when you get to town and look for the signs.
Good to hear of a passenger car being preserved-especially a Harriman RPO. Any kind of passenger car is hard to find these days, regardless of condition. If they can be found, they will be expensive
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Posted: 12 July 2005, 11:49:09

Hello earlydiesels Dan Good to see you again and I'm happy to know that someone out there is reading this stuff!

About the only thing I recall my father passing on to me was something like, If you don't ask 'em first, they can't say no!

This isn't a bad place to sit and listen - especially with old Juke back there playing some of those great train songs we've loaded up on. Check 'em out - drop a few quarters in from that jar sitting on the little table next to the Juke - 5 plays for a quarter - can't beat that with a stick.

By the by - this coming Friday is the BIRTHDAY BASH for *** at 9 AM CDST So, I hope to see you as close to that time as possible.

Ready for 'nother one[?]
Tom


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Posted: 12 July 2005, 14:10:26

Back again. I'll take on appetizer and a cold brew to wash it down with, Tom. I'll stroll over to the jukebox and see just exactly what is on it. I am in the mood for something out of the ordinary. Any recommendations?
For those interested, the Midland is enduring the annual Thomas The Tank Engine event and will not have regular service until 23 July. Don't take me wrong-- Thomas is a great income source but the logistics and the planning and the volunteer hours are just exhausting! The past 3 times we have had Thomas, I have been (real) engineer but this time we have decided to sit this one out. The first year, I did not have a fireman and did not leave the cab until days end! I have observed that we have some volunteers that help only during special events(especially if the media are present) and these same people are nonexistent the rest of the time. These people are welcome to help now. When it is 100degrees out with 100% humidity these people are nowhere to be found. I personally enjoy regular events more than the special events. I have more of a chance to visit and help folks enjoy their time here. With Thomas, we give 25 minute rides and back at the depot, passengers detrain on one side and entrain on the other. From the cab, it resembles a livestock auction.
Another cold brew, please. One special event we have is where we open up the restored KCS RPO car and have retired postal clerks ride and answer questions. They sell postcards with special RPO markings that are ready to be used. It's interesting to think most mail used to be sorted in these cars years ago.
On the local front, our museum received an old baggage cart for display. We are going to have it sandblasted and then we will repaint it. No one seems to know the exact shades of paint, though. Any answers from our knowledgeable group?? I am supposed to write up a easy to read description of our loco for display to be seen from the front gate. I haven’t started yet but it shouldn’t take very long to write.


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Posted: 12 July 2005, 14:59:38
Afternoon, earlydiesels Dan A rainy day here in Mentor Village, just a stones throw from the CP yard and right down the road from that all female university that Cindy teaches at ....... wonder what she teaches[?]

Your comments regarding volunteers brings back many memories of decades past. It really is pretty much across the board when it comes to motives for many people when they volunteer. While my offerings of free time haven't been with railroading, I have done the responsible thing when it came to Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, youth baseball and serving as a police officer with my local PD. Of course, the longest tour of volunteerism for me lasted 32 years - and that was with the U.S. Coast Guard on active duty. But, that's not what either of us are talking about ........

It never failed that when the chips were down the same few people always showed up to take up the slack with whatever the duties. I got involved with baseball when I signed up one of my boys, only to find out that the team couldn't be in the league unless someone signed on as Manager. Guess who[?] Then my youngest son announced that his Cub Pack was about to fold up because they didn't have ANY Den Mothers. So, guess what happened[?] I became a Den Mother - and this was back in the days BEFORE our society considered itself enlightened or whatever the term is used these days! As an Eagle Scout and all of that, it really wasn't a hard thing for me, but it kinda ticked me off to think that the Pack absolutely would've fallen apart if it hadn't have been for a couple of guys who came to the rescue and eventually shamed the gals into taking over the jobs. Crazy, huh? Then of course the Boy Scouts always needed someone, usually at the last moment, to drive the boys to a campout AND stay the night ...... etc., etc., etc. It truly never bothered me to do these things, for my boys were involved and as a kid, someone did it for me. The thing that DID get to me, was the same people, over and over, always had the excuses, and the same people, over and over, always did the work. Ain't that the way it goes[?] Some you win, some you lose, and others are rained out!

Hey Boris set 'em up ...... this is all [#offtopic]- and, oh [yeah]ring the bell!

Tunes on the Juke[?] One thing nice about a cyber bar 'n grill, you'll find exactly what you're looking for .......... and, you can't beat the price!

Enjoy the day!
Tom


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Posted: 12 July 2005, 15:24:37

Good afternoon, Y'all. Another hot one in Big D today. Tom, if you have a big glass please fill it up with the cold bubbly stuff (NOT champagne!). I see it cropped up again-my referring to Tom as Housekeep. I guess I will never live that one down. I bet that I will take a ribbing for it on Friday at nine. Do not let me drink during our meeting on Friday. My wife has invited several neighbors in to celebrate the big 65. I do not think it would be cool to arrive home under the alfluence of incohol.

Think that management here is trying to tell me something and I might be too dumb to pick up on it. Two weeks ago they sent me to Libya. Next week they are sending me to London where I will have to ride the Underground. And to top it all off they booked me into a hotel in the Belgravia area that is owned by an Arab company. Are they trying to tell me something???

Please do not take this next comment as demeaning to the poor souls who were hurt or killed in the bomb blasts. I mean no disrespect to their memory. Well--here goes. The radical Arabs did not set the bombs. It was the French and they did it because they are mad about looosing the 2012 Olympics.

Enough sick humor. Back to the subject of this pub. Has anyone been to Alaska and rode on the cruise lines train cars to Denali that they tie on to the end of the Alaska RR passenger trains? I have not had that pleasure, but have seen the cars. They are built by Colorado Rail Car outside Denver and are BEAUTIFUL. Bob Raiders, the CEO of Colorail Car is my friend and he has brought the cars to several conventions to showcase them. They are plush!!! Malacite panels, etched glass, great bar, two observation decks (it is a bilevel car) with an elevator to the upper level. All this for less than $3 million. Think I will buy a couple for personal use (Note to Bob Raiders-Do not try to cash my check!) I tried to purchase one for Trinity Railway Express to use as a bar car on the rush hour train to Fort Worth while I was on the DART board. Could not get it over due to budgetary poroblems and the concerns of the *&^%$ agency lawyers.

This may be considered heresy by Tom, but there is an interesting thread on the regular TRAINS forum dealing with restoring a GG-1 to service. Since I have rode behind one several times I would love to see this happen, but do not hold your breath.

Cheers,
***


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 12 July 2005, 17:09:50

Howdy *** Was beginning to think we'd not see you until YOUR Birthday Bash this Friday at 9 AM CDST!

How about a nice tall frosty mug of Texas Pride[?] Just happen to have a case of 'em in long necks, regular & light, of course!

In this day and age, all kidding aside, trying to attach a motive to such a horrendus act simply cannot rule out any plausible lead. You're not hurting MY feellngs one bit regarding those people on the Continent who have backup lights on their military vehicles for a reason ..........

GG1's[?] My FAVORITE loco's of all time. Rode behind a few of 'em myself and loved to watch 'em pull into the station. Great engines. Have a Pennsy in Tuscan and one in Brunswick Green, both with 5 stripes - in my retired HO display cases. Ahhhhhhh, those were the days.

Custom built railcars - now that would be my dream - just to have something like that. I'd go for a refurbished more modern one though. Since my preference lies with the Budd stainless steel beauties, mine would be the observation dome (ie: VIA Rail Park car) - oh could I have fun redesigning it to my specs ........ Now all I've got to do is lline up the funding. I suppose I could raise the prices 'round here! [tdn] Nah .........

Glad you stopped by and hope you'll come back at least one more time before YOUR big day!

Tom


QUOTE: barndad
Posted: 12 July 2005, 17:17:24

Hi all!

I've been reading this thread for quite some time, but have never posted. It's been interesting to find out more about the people who are here, as well as learning more about trains in general. When I saw the posts about Thomas and volunteerism, I decided it was time to jump in. I left my credit card at the cash register to cover the 1st round.
I am a new volunteer on the Steam Team at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union Illinois. We're workin on a number of projects, including the restoration of a 1900 Baldwin Consolidation (UP428). Saturdays are when most of our volunteer time is logged, and only a handful make it to the shop more than once a week. We could literally use hundreds of more volunteers even if all our rolling stock was 100% restored. We probably have another 100 years worth of projects that need doing.
Siberianmo has noticed the same thing as me when it comes to volunteers. Wherever volunteers are used, whether it be church, scouts, or sports, there is always a handful of people who do the bulk of the work, and you see these same people wherever you go.
By the way, what used to be known as "Den Mothers", are now "Den Leaders", and this position is no longer considered a woman’s job. As a matter of fact, the Cubmaster position is no longer reserved for men. There are very few professional Scouters in the Scouting structure. Almost everyone is a volunteer. As District Commissioner, it was always my pleasure to work with my fellow volunteers. Some of the finest people I have ever met, I met through Scouting. It was also no surprise to find these same outstanding and selfless individuals involved in other volunteer positions outside of Scouting. Even Volunteers who only show now and then are needed. The more hands you have, the more you can get done. Everyone should be encouraged to contribute.
We also have some Thomas Days, and it's my understanding that we pretty much get the bulk of our funding from this event. The actual event has been described to me as a zoo, but the kids love it, and we sure need the money! I'm also told we need every volunteer we can get. We even pay groups who aren't remotely affiliated with the Museum to fill these spots. I'll probably take some time from work to help this year. I'll let you know how it went!


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 12 July 2005, 17:40:52


[#welcome]Aboard barndad - If you've been checking us out for awhile, then you know the first drink is on the house!

Part of the standard bill of fare must be repeated for all new customers -
We are an adult cyber bar 'n grill hoping to attract interest in Classic Trains real and model. We also like to have some fun while doing so ...... So, we've got quite a cast of characters around here .......

I encourage everyone who visits us to start at the beginning and when you get to the SUMMARIES check 'em out ........ a quicker way to get up to speed for sure.

We hope that our cyber bar 'n grill will be a stop off point for you and perhaps you'll become one of our regulars. No matter - you're welcome 'round here whenever you'd like .......

Regarding your comments, I'm up to speed with the Scouting program. With three Eagles in my family, it's hard not to keep up. I'm not at all in favor of uni-sex anything. But respect those who have different opinions. Time will be the ultimate judge, and I think we're seeing some not so favorable signs these days of this social experiment. I'm a "boys will be boys" kinda guy and will be so until it's my time for planting.

Okay, Boris ring the ding-dong Bell - drinks on the house for being [#offtopic].

Enjoy your visit!

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place



QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 12 July 2005, 17:59:31

Ahh its cool in here, hi all!
Another tall one, I just got back from the photo run, pix on the way.
barndad do you have a Builders plate on your 2903? I am casting replacements for ours <the 2926> and if you have the plate I could use a pic, and if you don’t, I could change the pattern and make Ya'll a set. Your work number should be 69791, <it is cast in to the boiler steam dome on the front> also ours was a park engine for 40 years, and has been badly stripped of gauges and data plates, I also need a copy,/photo of the plate on the backhead that has the MWP on it. We are collecting a set of instruments, <already have the big dbl sided steam gauge> but picx would help in restoring the piping and handles. They even got our bell clapper..... and I need to find some wrought iron to make a new one.

photos....
Here is a closer shot of the caboose.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aar

And the Missile command car.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aas?full=1

Thies are the roller bearing trucks that will go to the caboose, and the ambulance kitchen car in the background, note the wide door, that will make it a good tool car.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aau?full=1

Here is a shot of the back side of the kitchen.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aat?full=1

And here is a shot of the trucks for the tender. <My CMO told me they weigh 22.5 tons not 11>
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aav

Somthing else I am hurting for will be the tech manuals fron the Army for our cars, it would help when we get to restoring them.

Thanks,
Gunns


QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 12 July 2005, 18:06:42

Another bier,
Greetings Tom and Ya'll.

Yet another question <G>, What do I need to do to get certified as an Engineer? we are gonna need 6 or so in the club for extended runs, and I wanted to know where to start?

Gunns


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 12 July 2005, 19:37:35

Evenin' Gunns Kevin Pull up one of those Reserved Stools for our Regular customers and sit a spell .......

We've got the Baseball All Star Game on all 3 of our large screen TV's ....... should be an enjoyable event.

Can't help ya with that Engineer Certification, unless of course a blessing from "Our" Place would help. I'm sure the Right Rev. Boris would certify you!

Enjoy!

Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 12 Jul 2005, 23:09:53

Good evening everyone.First off Tom I think a Crown with a Black label chaser.Glad that you got your rain we are still waiting.We have had only 10mm since the 16th of June [#welcome]To barndad another museum volunteer to boot As has been said already you do get a dedicated few to man most things. Our museum's membership is well over 400 members but only the board and the dedicated core are around likely 40 or so. In our case we have members that literally span the globe, so in many cases distance allows some to only be around once or twice a year if at all. We certainly have enough projects to keep as going till the second coming as well.

early The Thomas events are great number boosters. We have been trying to get a three day weekend at the museum but the logistics are a nightmare. For starters we would likely have to build one ourselves as our track gauge is not standard. The museum is set for TTC gauge which is unfortunately broader 4'107/8".Instead we do two night Halloween shows in which we turn two of our carbarns into haunted houses, great fun for the kiddies and we usually see 1500-2000 people over the two shows.

gunns Good pictures again sir The only suggestion I have for your engineering qualifications i would think would be to check your transportation regulators. There has to be a specified course. Won't likely be cheap however. Up here Transport Canada would handle these type of inquiries as they are the rule enforcers. With our museum we use our own training program it's home designed but is based on general rail rules as well as general safety / common sense type stuff. We use a graduated licensing system where you right a rules test ( 90% to pass ) rewritten every three years. Then oncar training starting with the easier { Peter Whitt's } then onto 327 the open handbrake car then to the PCC's and after that you move onto the train brake cars ( interurbans )You have two road tests one for probationary status then the second for your perm. status on each vehicle. The usual demerrit point system if one screws up etc. Sounds daunting but when you have a carload of passengers everything MUST be perfect.

Al A usual cpmplete above and beyond answer thank-you It's nice to see that there was some Pullmans up here. Makes sense that they ran on the US subsidiaries.

Ted Didn't want to leave you out. I'm waiting to praise your modeling efforts. As a side i have won an Ebay auction for an old uncle Walthers single truck double ended street car. 60's vintage. It looks like it was a loose model of a safety car of some kind. Double ended to boot. I'll post a pic or two when I pick it up.( waiting at th4 post office as we speak but I have to go run the real thing tomorrow so I won't grab it till tomorrow night. Have a good night everyone. Rob


QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 12 Jul 2005, 23:29:01

I just noticed that I did miss a couple people.

Tom So it's you that's going to be writing the book. That's fine I'm sure Al won't mind helping you edit and scale back to less than a thousand pages; I know that Boris has expressed an interest in helping you cut and paste the pictures( you know how he likes paste. caught him spreading a glue stick on some toast again)

*** I have liked the GG1's from afar bit big for my taste but certainly an attractive unit. Which one is possibly undergoing this transformation? Don't count out it being done. Money might be all that could hold it up. Electric railway equipment is tuff and rugged, you would be surprised what can be restored and operated. Electrics are much simpler beasts than steam or diesel. That cruise sounded interesting I not gone as far north as Alaska. Prince George BC is my highpoint that and Moose Factory in Ontario. One of my fav cruise locations is in central Ontario at Gravenhurst. The Muskoka Steamship society run the 186 year old RMS Segwun and a new Diesel powered mate they built themselves in 2002 the RMS Wenonah 2. Dinner dance and siteseeing cruises on all three Muskoka Lakes. Traveling on the Segwun is interesting in that she operates on a hand fired scotch boiler. Something else on a 215' steamer and shell still do her top speed of 16 knots! I was hoping to book us a cruise during the rendevous next year but they don't commence their season until mid june This is a shot of Wenonah tthey built her along the lines of the rest of the fleet so she looks like a turn of the century(20th)steamer herself. Along with the Segwun and the Eaton family steam yacht Wanda 3 Segwun is the only ship left of the Muskoka Fleet. Enjoy the shot.

Talk to you all tomorrow. Rob

As always, your posts are very inclusive and shows what this thread can really be like if one takes the time to read what others have to say. Thanx! [tup][;)]
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Posted by Gunns on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:01 AM
Morning all,
Coffee n Pastrey here,
Im off to another work day, going to try to figure out a replacement for the wrought iron I need for the bell clapper. also I need to make the adapter for our impact wrench so it can be used to open the siphon inspection ports.

Ahh good pastery, later all.
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:15 AM
Mornin' Gunns Kevin ...... Fresh pastry from The Mentor Village Bakery along with some hot Joe ...... what could be better to start the day[?] Well, I can think of a couple of things --- but, given that we may have some sensitive folks around, I'll drop it ..... [}:)]

Now, how do you suppose the name of that bakery includes the name, Mentor [?] This is a test - I'd love to know if anyone can figure it out ......

Enjoy! [tup][swg]
Tom
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:04 PM
Surprise Tom!! I am back before my birthday. Getting ready for the big roast Firday at 9 Central Standard Time. Even had a stress test today to insure that i could pass the roasting without any problems. Passed with flying colors. Had an angioplasty about 10 years ago and all has been fine since then. My ambition is to live long enough to be a burdon to my two children. It is payback time! I even have an old fare box from the
Portland Oregon transit system in my office. Use it to collect the loose change in my pocket. You can all deposit your birthday tithe gifts in it.

Tom, I think I will have one of the red necks, correction, long necks. Make it a cold one as our building had a summer Hawaiian lunch for all tennants today and it was hot out on the patio. Red necks is a name given to low lifes in Texas who usually are very bigoted on almost every subject. The name comes from their usual jobs of outdoor manual labor where their necks are red from the intense sun in Texas.

Back to the wonderful GG-1s. I jokingly say that I have graduated to larger train gauges to go with my eyesight. Have played with Z, HO, O G, and finally 1:1 scale. Atleast I can see that one. I do have a sizable LGB fleet which stays in the garage cabinet 50 weeks of the year. All of my Lionel I gave to my son several years ago. Over the years I have bought additional cars and locomotives for him on the net. Some of the original equipment dates from Christmas 1945 when I received my first Lionel set. Now to the GG-1 part of the story. A couple of years ago I bought a vintage Brunswick green Lionel GG-1 for my son at Christmas (He is 39 and has blessed us with four wonderful grandchildren). I had the LGB set up for Christmas and placed the Lionel GG-1 on a LGB flat car. It made two loops before he saw it and I thought he was going to have a heart attack. (Guess heart problems runs in my genes as my father died form a heart attack). His Lionel collection is like my LGB collection. We both have far more than we could ever set up at one time. I have even bought a Lionel train set for each of my four grand children by my son. Fortunately my son knows the value of Lionel and protects it.

I have given my daughter's three three children LGB trains. They have not protected them as well as my son has. Fortunately LGB has not gone up in value as fast as the Lionel has.

Well, I better get back to work. Remember to put the birthday tithes in the fare box on Friday. (Just kidding)

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:13 PM
Howdy *** [C):-)] How about a Shiner in a long neck [?] Have those in regular or light ...... [tup]

Well, that was an interesting post regarding the GG1, et al. What a novel way to present a present. We have two LGB's circling the tree, one freight and one passenger, both very Euro. I'll have to check the flat car really close ...... [swg]

It does seem that later in life I've become more interested in this hobby and of course being retired has a great deal to do with it. Also having the means helps a lot! [;)]

If you've checked out my photo album you've seen the Can-Am trainroom and HO layout. I'm for maximizing available space. Guess that's the sailor in me - everything has a place and better be in it! [4:-)]

LGB is fascinating - not so much the size but the quality of workmanship, durability and simplicity. Really am impressed. Of course, now that the LGB folks either have or are going to farm out work to China, I wonder what the future holds for the Euro craftsmanship [?] No slam against the Asian's, but somehow, LGB made anywhere other than Europe doesn't get it for me.

A Birthday Fare Box[?] what a thought! Hmmmmm, on second thought ...... [:0]

Insofar as your Birthday Bash is concerned, just be here at the appointed time - 9 AM CDST this Friday. Since we haven't heard from Nick nor do we know whether he's able to cyber communicate, we've had to appoint Boris as Entertainment Mogul .... I'd say things will be a bit different for a morning at "Our" Place [swg]

My wish upon retirement was to live at least as long as I served in the military. I'm a bit over halfway there ...... retired since 1988, served 32 years - so I intend to keep collecting that which they promised. A burden to my kids - I probably already am, but for far different reasons too personal for cyber comms. Don't even know why I said that!!! But it's said - so be it. To Hades with the backspace key! [}:)]

Given that you've read these posts - where do YOU think the name Mentor as in The Mentor Village Bakery came from[?] Hmmmmmmm. [swg]

See ya! [tup][;)]
Tom
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:11 PM
Hi Tom. I will take the Shiner Dark in the long neck bottle. Do not like that wimpy pale stuff. Rarely drink beer except when in the Old Country. There they have Guinness Stout on tap at reasonable prices and it is on the swindle sheet, correction, expense account.

As to Mentor in Mentor Village Bakery I am not sure. All I can think of is that mentor means its classical meaning as someone who leads or tutors someone. You coule be cooking (baking) up some good leadership. Oh well, that answer is a stab at it.

My LGB is all Americal prototype. Have two LGB Moguls, 0-4-0 Porter, Mason, Bachman Shay (from my West Virginia background) and, Tom eat your heart out, an Accucraft RDC. All of the cars are US prototype and of the 1880-1920 vintage. Pull a string of red D&RW coaches with the Mason. One of the moguls is the yellow one LGB made. All of the equipment has Kaydee couplers. Do not think the LGB dogbones look too real. Have a string of assorted yellow cars to pull with it. (I know it is tacky). Rest of the cars are in prototypical railroad colors of the period. No permanant layout, but after retirement would like to consider it. If I do go outside I would like to go to a live steam 12" +/- gauge. All I need is lots of money. If you think LGB is expensive look at the live steam stuff. I am a member of the North Texas Garden Railway Consortium, although I do not attend many of the meetings. We set up at two train shows in November and January. Usually have quite an extensive layout as the club owns lots of track and switches. Members bring buildings and rolling stock. Fun for two days twice a year being able to play choo choo.

Time to catch the train to my van pool. More later.

Cheers,
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 PM
Howdy *** [C):-)] One Shiner Dark comin' up ..... [tup]

Can't recall the last time you've spent so much time with us ... great having you back! Was beginning to doubt your interest in us .... SHAME ON ME! Apologies all 'round ...... [V]

I'd love to see that outdoor display of G gauge rolling stock ... must be something. Obviously, it's TEXAS-sized, eh[?] [swg]

An RDC you say! You know, one of these days I'm just going to have to sell this place, move to a more rural spot and set up my own railroad - RDC's, observation domes, GG1's, Cabooses w/cupolas (don't like those bay window types) and just one Hudson for nostalgia. [yeah]

If memory serves me correctly, you and your bride are departing on Saturday for your vacation. I don't expect you to chronicle your itinerary here, but if there's anything you may require in terms of info for the Montreal-Halifax-Sackville portions, let me know by Email.

Mentor guess is interesting - but wroooooooong! [8] I've dropped this little nonsense on our regulars just to determine if anyone is actually reading this stuff! Congrats - you are!

Okay - a hint: Mentor appears with a click ......

Enjoy! [tup][;)]
Tom

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:19 PM
Hello everyone and welcome, new faces. I will take a cold brew and a bag of peanuts, please. I was letting off some steam with the soapbox editorial about volunteers but I have gathered that I am not alone in these feelings! Thomas is a great fundraiser but it really burns people out. We need a more steady moneymaker. Years ago before I started, Midland had a dinner train but the cars were privately owned and the owners took them to Branson. We have the partially complete beginnings of a dinner train but no work has been done on it for some time. Old heavyweights were being rebuilt with mahogany woodwork, stained glass, central heat and air, the works. Here again, the same people were doing the work and the business part of keeping the rr running takes precedence.
I have to ask a favor of the gang here at OUR PLACE. Midland had 2 loco horns stolen and if everyone would keep eyes and ears open, I would appreciate it. Our exCB&Q NW2, #524, had a 3 chime horn stolen. Our Rock Island E6, #630, had its 5 chime horn stolen. I do not know the maker of the horns but these locos are in service so now we cannot use them until we find replacements. The 524 is our most used loco and a single note horn was located and installed so we can use it. It's sad when treasures such as these, which bring pleasure to many, can be sidelined by a criminal element which, more than likely, call themselves railfans.
Another cold brew, please. Those peanuts sure are salty. All the talk about Scouting brings up another little tidbit. The Midland has Scout camps several times a year and is always sold out in advance. Some Scouts started like this and now work for Class Is. Others are good volunteers. We have camp cars for them to overnight in and they are an essential part of our track maintenance. The Scouts can earn a railroading Merit badge for their efforts.
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:44 PM
Evenin' earlydiesels Dan - good time for a cold one, eh[?]

Given that our regulars are reading these threads regularly and of course, the SUMMARIES your call for assistance may be honored.

I recall that during YOUR Birthday Bash two of our gujys were online - and not just for a minute, but for long durations, and neither checked in. Now, I tell you that NOT to make you feel bad, but to illustrate that sometimes on these cyber forums, we apply just a bit too much credence to the relationships that spring up. Just a reality check, that's all.

How about it - have you figured out where the Mentor in The Mentor Village Bakery came from[?] [swg] Thus far, only one regular has tried to answer this ...... [:D]

One of the institutions in America has been the Scouting program - Boy and Girl. While begun in England, the Boy Scouts can take great pride in providing so many leaders ...... just a simple check on one of the search engines will reveal scores of names, all influential in their fields and many Presidents as well. My hope is that the organizations bent on the destruction of our way of life and I'm talking about America, will not ever rise to the level where Scouting becomes nothing more than a shell of what it once was. Too many ACLU cases out there - too many court decisions going against what we all thought was "the American way," etc. Okay - I know, [soapbox] and [#offtopic]. Go ahead Boris ring the bell! BUT, this round is on Dan for HE started this topic! [yeah][;)] I'll buy the next one ..... [swg]

See ya!
Tom

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Posted by Gunns on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:59 PM
Hi all,
Sumpin cold.
and munchies many many munchies.....

earlydeisles yep we have a core group of about 15 out of our 300+ membership, and the 3751 folks are about the same. It seems there is allwas a rush for the cab when steaming time comes around.....

Found out somthing I knew but hadent assimilated, Oxy tanks get hot when you fill them! Burned my hand on them loading them after a supply run <G>
Wends 13 july 05,

Today we opened up the 9" brake cyls and started on the refurbishment. Work also progresses on puting the drawings in to the computer. Painting progresses on the tender. Tools are beeing prepared for Saturdays work session, and the cribwork will be moved to allow painting and installation of dunnage brackets.
More to come
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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:05 PM
Good Evening All , How about a Crown royal with water back. On second thought make it a double.
Earlydiesels you are absolutely right about volunteer groups. I have belonged to a Neighborhood watch group /community betterment type group for the last eleven years and have been elected Secretary more than four times now. We maintain a community officew donated by a local businessman complete with phone service and directory listing.
When I first joined it was because I was new to the City and did not know the neighborhood. I quickly grew tired of almost nightly gunfire and the crime running rampant in the neighborhood. The group quickly grew to over 200 members and crime took a dramatic drop. Suddenly people that never got involved in anything before decided enough was enough. The group even ran street patrols in cars on froday and saturday nights with direct conrtact to the police. No one was armed and the crime stats dropped dramatically. Every year at Easter the group puts on an Easter egg Hunt in a small neighborhood park and the group forced politicians into adding playground equipment for the children of the neighborhood as well. National Night out we have a B-B-Q with Hot dogs and beans and everyone is welcome. Now since crime improved and suddenly it is once again on the rise and membership dropped to about a dozen core members. Now crime is once again on the rise and new members are showing up at every meeting. Where were they when we really needed them. And suddenly politicians are once again taking notice of the old neighborhood as it borders the downtown redevelopment area that many people are afraid to even visit.
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:53 PM
Good evening all. Hopefully, I'm just in time for Last Call[:D]. I'll take an ice cold draft from the tap. It's been a busy day, and I'm one pooped person.

Let me be another to [#welcome] barndad and other newbies to our cyber establishment. Can't wait to hear more about your restoration work barndad.

Gunns-Kevin, great pic of the caboose. Yep, that's the correct lettering for the time period that the 2926 ran. The kitchen car and others are great too [tup]

earlydiesels-Dan, that's a sad thing to hear about the horn thefts [V]. I don't recall in your post, but was this recently? I hope the ones responsible are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. Maybe a Google search can help you locate replacements.

Ahhhh, that draft went down smmoooth. Great night cap[:D]

Take care,

Russell

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
Evening Guys - I see passengerfan Al and Gunns Kevin at the bar ..... somewhere around here is earlydiesels Dan ....

..... and still no reply to the quiz [?] Not even an attempt ....... So, just where did the Mentor in The Mentor Village Bakery come from [?] A hint was given back some - in my reply to ***. Not even curious, eh [?][?][?]

Sent out an Email late this afternoon to all Permanent Stool Members, so check your incoming messages! Thanx, Al for the quick response .........[tup]

Sure looks like we're going to have to find another Chef Chief [C=:-)] around here - at least on a temporary basis. Nick apparently is out of commission insofar as cyber comms is concerned. Where will we ever find a replacment [?] No, Boris remains as kitchen help - and that's it. He's all he's ever going to be! (from the "Be all you can be" former US Army recruiting slogan). [swg]

Thought some of you might be interested in these contrasting pictures of "Our" Place, over the past few months ........ (click to enlarge)

Signature pix


Dominion Atlantic RDC's at flag stop


Canada Day 2005


U.S. Independence Day 2005


G'Nite all, [zzz]

Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 PM
Evenin' Trainnut484 Russell Sit right down and enjoy the brew .... plenty of time. I may not stick 'round much longer, but Ruthie is in tonight and will close up. [;)]

If I haven't said it lately, I appreciate you guys taking the time out of your day to stop by and make a contribution to this bar of ours. One of the benefits of doing so on a regular basis is to keep "Our" Place on the first page of this forum. That's how we attract new customers and retain the old ones. Once we slip to other pages, well then we put out the For Sale sign.

Try your hand at the Quiz [?] [swg] C'mon, it's really not that difficult. Hints are all over this page ..........

Ready for 'nother one [?]
Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:56 AM
THURSDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

G'day Gentlemen! Make your way up to the bar and begin the day with our fine selection of goodies from The Mentor Village Bakery, some coffee and of course our light breakfast fare ........ Ann is in the kitchen this morning and will help out until we get some word from Nick ...... [tup]

Fish 'n Chips nite tonight, so come hungry. Sorry, no Nick's Picks [:(]

Editorial comment: Only one respondent for the QUIZ [?] C'mon ... that's either apathy or no reading. We can do better 'round here. Why reduce us to the level of the other shoot 'n run threads [?] We're about having fun while discussing CLASSIC TRAINS ..... [swg]

TOMORROW IS THE BIRTHDAY BASH for *** - plan to log on as close to 9 AM CDST as possible and spend some time with the Birthday Boy

To the SUMMARY

QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 13 July 2005, 09:01:16

Morning all,
Coffee n Pastry here,
Im off to another work day, going to try to figure out a replacement for the wrought iron I need for the bell clapper. also I need to make the adapter for our impact wrench so it can be used to open the siphon inspection ports.

Ahh good pastry, later all.
Gunns


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 13 July 2005, 09:15:24

Mornin' Gunns Kevin ...... Fresh pastry from The Mentor Village Bakery along with some hot Joe ...... what could be better to start the day[?] Well, I can think of a couple of things --- but, given that we may have some sensitive folks around, I'll drop it .....

Now, how do you suppose the name of that bakery includes the name, Mentor [?] This is a test - I'd love to know if anyone can figure it out ......

Enjoy!
Tom


QUOTE: wrwatkins
Posted: 13 July 2005 , 13:04:40

Surprise Tom!! I am back before my birthday. Getting ready for the big roast Friday at 9 Central Standard Time. Even had a stress test today to insure that i could pass the roasting without any problems. Passed with flying colors. Had an angioplasty about 10 years ago and all has been fine since then. My ambition is to live long enough to be a burden to my two children. It is payback time! I even have an old fare box from the
Portland Oregon transit system in my office. Use it to collect the loose change in my pocket. You can all deposit your birthday tithe gifts in it.

Tom, I think I will have one of the red necks, correction, long necks. Make it a cold one as our building had a summer Hawaiian lunch for all tenants today and it was hot out on the patio. Red necks is a name given to low lifes in Texas who usually are very bigoted on almost every subject. The name comes from their usual jobs of outdoor manual labor where their necks are red from the intense sun in Texas.

Back to the wonderful GG-1s. I jokingly say that I have graduated to larger train gauges to go with my eyesight. Have played with Z, HO, O G, and finally 1:1 scale. At least I can see that one. I do have a sizable LGB fleet which stays in the garage cabinet 50 weeks of the year. All of my Lionel I gave to my son several years ago. Over the years I have bought additional cars and locomotives for him on the net. Some of the original equipment dates from Christmas 1945 when I received my first Lionel set. Now to the GG-1 part of the story. A couple of years ago I bought a vintage Brunswick green Lionel GG-1 for my son at Christmas (He is 39 and has blessed us with four wonderful grandchildren). I had the LGB set up for Christmas and placed the Lionel GG-1 on a LGB flat car. It made two loops before he saw it and I thought he was going to have a heart attack. (Guess heart problems runs in my genes as my father died form a heart attack). His Lionel collection is like my LGB collection. We both have far more than we could ever set up at one time. I have even bought a Lionel train set for each of my four grand children by my son. Fortunately my son knows the value of Lionel and protects it.

I have given my daughter's three children LGB trains. They have not protected them as well as my son has. Fortunately LGB has not gone up in value as fast as the Lionel has.

Well, I better get back to work. Remember to put the birthday tithes in the fare box on Friday. (Just kidding)

***


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 13 July 2005, 14:13:45

Howdy *** [C):-)]How about a Shiner in a long neck [?] Have those in regular or light ......

Well, that was an interesting post regarding the GG1, et al. What a novel way to present a present. We have two LGB's circling the tree, one freight and one passenger, both very Euro. I'll have to check the flat car really close ......

It does seem that later in life I've become more interested in this hobby and of course being retired has a great deal to do with it. Also having the means helps a lot!

If you've checked out my photo album you've seen the Can-Am trainroom and HO layout. I'm for maximizing available space. Guess that's the sailor in me - everything has a place and better be in it! [4:-)]

LGB is fascinating - not so much the size but the quality of workmanship, durability and simplicity. Really am impressed. Of course, now that the LGB folks either have or are going to farm out work to China, I wonder what the future holds for the Euro craftsmanship [?] No slam against the Asian's, but somehow, LGB made anywhere other than Europe doesn't get it for me.

A Birthday Fare Box [?] what a thought! Hmmmmm, on second thought ...... [:O]

Insofar as your Birthday Bash is concerned, just be here at the appointed time - 9 AM CDST this Friday. Since we haven't heard from Nick nor do we know whether he's able to cyber communicate, we've had to appoint Boris as Entertainment Mogul .... I'd say things will be a bit different for a morning at "Our" Place [swg]

My wish upon retirement was to live at least as long as I served in the military. I'm a bit over halfway there ...... retired since 1988, served 32 years - so I intend to keep collecting that which they promised. A burden to my kids - I probably already am, but for far different reasons too personal for cyber comms. Don't even know why I said that!!! But it's said - so be it. To Hades with the backspace key! [}:)]

Given that you've read these posts - where do YOU think the name Mentor as in The Mentor Village Bakery came from [?] Hmmmmmmm.

See ya!
Tom


QUOTE: wrwatkins
Posted: 13 July 2005, 16:11:57

Hi Tom. I will take the Shiner Dark in the long neck bottle. Do not like that wimpy pale stuff. Rarely drink beer except when in the Old Country. There they have Guinness Stout on tap at reasonable prices and it is on the swindle sheet, correction, expense account.

As to Mentor in Mentor Village Bakery I am not sure. All I can think of is that mentor means its classical meaning as someone who leads or tutors someone. You coule be cooking (baking) up some good leadership. Oh well, that answer is a stab at it.

My LGB is all Americal prototype. Have two LGB Moguls, 0-4-0 Porter, Mason, Bachman Shay (from my West Virginia background) and, Tom eat your heart out, an Accucraft RDC. All of the cars are US prototype and of the 1880-1920 vintage. Pull a string of red D&RW coaches with the Mason. One of the moguls is the yellow one LGB made. All of the equipment has Kaydee couplers. Do not think the LGB dogbones look too real. Have a string of assorted yellow cars to pull with it. (I know it is tacky). Rest of the cars are in prototypical railroad colors of the period. No permanent layout, but after retirement would like to consider it. If I do go outside I would like to go to a live steam 12" +/- gauge. All I need is lots of money. If you think LGB is expensive look at the live steam stuff. I am a member of the North Texas Garden Railway Consortium, although I do not attend many of the meetings. We set up at two train shows in November and January. Usually have quite an extensive layout as the club owns lots of track and switches. Members bring buildings and rolling stock. Fun for two days twice a year being able to play choo choo.

Time to catch the train to my van pool. More later.

Cheers,
***



QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 13 July 2005, 16:35:03


Howdy *** [C):-)]One Shiner Dark comin' up .....

Can't recall the last time you've spent so much time with us ... great having you back! Was beginning to doubt your interest in us .... SHAME ON ME! Apologies all 'round ......

I'd love to see that outdoor display of G gauge rolling stock ... must be something. Obviously, it's TEXAS-sized, eh[?]

An RDC you say! You know, one of these days I'm just going to have to sell this place, move to a more rural spot and set up my own railroad - RDC's, observation domes, GG1's, Cabooses w/cupolas (don't like those bay window types) and just one Hudson for nostalgia. [yeah]

If memory serves me correctly, you and your bride are departing on Saturday for your vacation. I don't expect you to chronicle your itinerary here, but if there's anything you may require in terms of info for the Montreal-Halifax-Sackville portions, let me know by Email.

Mentor guess is interesting - but wroooooooong! [8]I've dropped this little nonsense on our regulars just to determine if anyone is actually reading this stuff! Congrats - you are!

Okay - a hint: Mentor appears with a click ......

Enjoy!
Tom


QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 13 July 2005, 19:19:57

Hello everyone and welcome, new faces. I will take a cold brew and a bag of peanuts, please. I was letting off some steam with the soapbox editorial about volunteers but I have gathered that I am not alone in these feelings! Thomas is a great fundraiser but it really burns people out. We need a more steady moneymaker. Years ago before I started, Midland had a dinner train but the cars were privately owned and the owners took them to Branson. We have the partially complete beginnings of a dinner train but no work has been done on it for some time. Old heavyweights were being rebuilt with mahogany woodwork, stained glass, central heat and air, the works. Here again, the same people were doing the work and the business part of keeping the rr running takes precedence.
I have to ask a favor of the gang here at OUR PLACE. Midland had 2 loco horns stolen and if everyone would keep eyes and ears open, I would appreciate it. Our ex CB&Q NW2, #524, had a 3 chime horn stolen. Our Rock Island E6, #630, had its 5 chime horn stolen. I do not know the maker of the horns but these locos are in service so now we cannot use them until we find replacements. The 524 is our most used loco and a single note horn was located and installed so we can use it. It's sad when treasures such as these, which bring pleasure to many, can be sidelined by a criminal element which, more than likely, call themselves railfans.
Another cold brew, please. Those peanuts sure are salty. All the talk about Scouting brings up another little tidbit. The Midland has Scout camps several times a year and is always sold out in advance. Some Scouts started like this and now work for Class Is. Others are good volunteers. We have camp cars for them to overnight in and they are an essential part of our track maintenance. The Scouts can earn a railroading Merit badge for their efforts.


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 13 July 2005, 19:44:14

Evenin' earlydiesels Dan - good time for a cold one, eh[?]

Given that our regulars are reading these threads regularly and of course, the SUMMARIES your call for assistance may be honored.

I recall that during YOUR Birthday Bash two of our gujys were online - and not just for a minute, but for long durations, and neither checked in. Now, I tell you that NOT to make you feel bad, but to illustrate that sometimes on these cyber forums, we apply just a bit too much credence to the relationships that spring up. Just a reality check, that's all.

How about it - have you figured out where the Mentor in The Mentor Village Bakery came from[?] Thus far, only one regular has tried to answer this ......

One of the institutions in America has been the Scouting program - Boy and Girl. While begun in England, the Boy Scouts can take great pride in providing so many leaders ...... just a simple check on one of the search engines will reveal scores of names, all influential in their fields and many Presidents as well. My hope is that the organizations bent on the destruction of our way of life and I'm talking about America, will not ever rise to the level where Scouting becomes nothing more than a shell of what it once was. Too many ACLU cases out there - too many court decisions going against what we all thought was "the American way," etc. Okay - I know, [soapbox] and [#offtopic]. Go ahead Boris ring the bell! BUT, this round is on Dan for HE started this topic! [yeah] [;)] I'll buy the next one ..... [swg]

See ya!
Tom


QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 19:59:40
Hi all,
Sumpin cold.
and munchies many many munchies.....

earlydeisles yep we have a core group of about 15 out of our 300+ membership, and the 3751 folks are about the same. It seems there is allwas a rush for the cab when steaming time comes around.....

Found out somthing I knew but hadent assimilated, Oxy tanks get hot when you fill them! Burned my hand on them loading them after a supply run <G>
Wends 13 july 05,

Today we opened up the 9" brake cyls and started on the refurbishment. Work also progresses on puting the drawings in to the computer. Painting progresses on the tender. Tools are beeing prepared for Saturdays work session, and the cribwork will be moved to allow painting and installation of dunnage brackets.
More to come
Gunns


QUOTE: passengerfan
Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 20:05:27
Good Evening All , How about a Crown royal with water back. On second thought make it a double.
Earlydiesels you are absolutely right about volunteer groups. I have belonged to a Neighborhood watch group /community betterment type group for the last eleven years and have been elected Secretary more than four times now. We maintain a community officew donated by a local businessman complete with phone service and directory listing.
When I first joined it was because I was new to the City and did not know the neighborhood. I quickly grew tired of almost nightly gunfire and the crime running rampant in the neighborhood. The group quickly grew to over 200 members and crime took a dramatic drop. Suddenly people that never got involved in anything before decided enough was enough. The group even ran street patrols in cars on Friday and Saturday nights with direct contact to the police. No one was armed and the crime stats dropped dramatically. Every year at Easter the group puts on an Easter egg Hunt in a small neighborhood park and the group forced politicians into adding playground equipment for the children of the neighborhood as well. National Night out we have a B-B-Q with Hot dogs and beans and everyone is welcome. Now since crime improved and suddenly it is once again on the rise and membership dropped to about a dozen core members. Now crime is once again on the rise and new members are showing up at every meeting. Where were they when we really needed them. And suddenly politicians are once again taking notice of the old neighborhood as it borders the downtown redevelopment area that many people are afraid to even visit.
Off subject once again Boris Ring the bell I have to buy another round.


QUOTE: Trainnut484
Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 22:53:55
Good evening all. Hopefully, I'm just in time for Last Call . I'll take an ice cold draft from the tap. It's been a busy day, and I'm one pooped person.

Let me be another to [#welcome] barndad and other newbies to our cyber establishment. Can't wait to hear more about your restoration work barndad.

Gunns-Kevin, great pic of the caboose. Yep, that's the correct lettering for the time period that the 2926 ran. The kitchen car and others are great too

earlydiesels-Dan, that's a sad thing to hear about the horn thefts . I don't recall in your post, but was this recently? I hope the ones responsible are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. Maybe a Google search can help you locate replacements.

Ahhhh, that draft went down smmoooth. Great night cap

Take care,

Russell


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 23:05:04

Evening Guys - I see passengerfan Al and Gunns Kevin at the bar ..... somewhere around here is earlydiesels Dan ....

..... and still no reply to the quiz [?]Not even an attempt ....... So, just where did the Mentor in The Mentor Village Bakery come from [?] A hint was given back some - in my reply to ***. Not even curious, eh [?][?][?]

Sent out an Email late this afternoon to all Permanent Stool Members, so check your incoming messages! Thanx, Al for the quick response .........[tup]

Sure looks like we're going to have to find another Chef Chief around here - at least on a temporary basis. Nick apparently is out of commission insofar as cyber comms is concerned. Where will we ever find a replacement [?] No, Boris remains as kitchen help - and that's it. He's all he's ever going to be! (from the "Be all you can be" former US Army recruiting slogan).

Thought some of you might be interested in these contrasting pictures of "Our" Place, over the past few months ........ (click to enlarge)

SCROLL UP TO VIEW THESE
Signature pix
Dominion Atlantic RDC's at flag stop
Canada Day 2005
U.S. Independence Day 2005

G'Nite all, [zzz]

Tom


QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 23:12:23

Evenin' Trainnut484 Russell Sit right down and enjoy the brew .... plenty of time. I may not stick 'round much longer, but Ruthie is in tonight and will close up.

If I haven't said it lately, I appreciate you guys taking the time out of your day to stop by and make a contribution to this bar of ours. One of the benefits of doing so on a regular basis is to keep "Our" Place on the first page of this forum. That's how we attract new customers and retain the old ones. Once we slip to other pages, well then we put out the For Sale sign.

Try your hand at the Quiz [?] C'mon, it's really not that difficult. Hints are all over this page ..........

Ready for 'nother one [?]
Tom


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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:23 AM
Mornin' everybody, I haven't been avoiding "Our" Place, on the contrary, I found these recent Posts so interesting and informative: I'm "dumb struck!".[8D] A whole new deminsion has been added to this establishment since barndad, Trainnut and Gunns began hangin' out with the "Regulars."[tup] Man oh Maneschevitz, its great to see the Bar take such a leap into the "nitty gritty" of "The Real Thing."[:D] "Keep them there cards and letters comin' in Gents!" I'm liable to learn something about what I've been modeling all these years.[:I] Except, that is, about "Mentor" and the signifigance of the word in: "Mentor Village Bakery." Somehow, it just hasn't "clicked" yet Tom.[:O]

Regarding the previous discussion of the Doers and Watchers, I guess that will never change...something to do with "human nature?" Still, the "Watchers," (at least) aren't looting and burning; so maybe the work of the "Doers" is its' own best reward?[bow] Right, please "set-em-up" Captain Tom and make mine a Blackberry Brandy to "drop the "fire box." Tom, I can "pinch hit" for [C=:-)] Nick at the grill until he shows but a gourmet chef, I'm not! I hope everybody likes Hickory or Muskeet smoke 'cause the only alternative is Boris' laundry hamper.[xx(]

Ah yes, "to G guage or not to "G" guage? That's has an easy answer...Jawohl! I "took the plunge" with an Aristo Gas Electric (DCC) and have no regrets. Expensive? You bet it is but 1:29 opens the door for "scratch building made easy." I use my 1:30 scale rule for drafting full scale drawings taken from prototype dimensions. Then, its "off to the races." I did a Cincinnatti Interurban car (Russell K.C., Clay County and St. Joseph #60) and the motor brick (Aristo Rail Bus) plus the trailing truck was my only LHS purchase. Since I'm not a G guage Purist, the 1:26 Franklin Mint vehicles are okay by me. The 1941 Chrysler Town and Country makes a nice load for a flat car. It is a little heavy but I have no grades...flat as a Kansas wheat field! Oh, I'm still struggling to get some Wal Mart CD pics to "Our" Place (cheap, cheap, cheap).[:-^] And yes, Russ the Doodlebug is Santa Fe livery. So far, no luck finding the proper sound module though. I wrote Digitraxx and they have no future plans for it either.[:(]

Okay, enough of my childish prattle. Boris, did you have an evening of passion recently? Late last night, we heard a sharp report coming from the Shed and I don't think it was a "back fire."[alien] Happy Rails to one and all. Ted

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:57 AM
Mornin' Ted
MANY THANX for agreeing to temporarily fill in as the Chief Chef [C=:-)] during Nick's absence! You're up tonight for the Fish Fry and in the morning for the Birthday Bash [:D]

Laundry hamper [?] So THAT's where that smell came from ......... [xx(]

Can always count on you when the chips are down and also to read the info posted herein! [tup][;)]

I'm not sure that I'd be so quick on the draw regarding any of the folks who have made only one or two posts to "Our" Place .... time will be the ultimate judge regarding their patronage. We always appreciate new customers and hope they stick around, but the reality of this thread is that we want to keep it manageable, intimate if you will, and unlike any other on the forums. That's not for everyone. Now, having said all of that - it has been an interesting few days with the input being kicked around ..... [tup]

Speaking of regulars where is coalminer 3 - Chris and of course Nick [?] The Legion of the Lost resurfaces! Arghhhhhhhhhhh.[%-)]

The QUIZ - your comments are closer than you think! Read 'em again and focus on one word - click! [swg] That's hint #2 for any of you who are following this!

Expenses with model railroading: Yesterday I added up the costs of my Lionel O-gauge Polar Express shelf system, the under construction S-gauge ceiling suspended layout and the HO expenditures. Arggggggggggh - would gag a healthy maggot for sure. I'm my own worst enemy when it comes to these things - keeping records - that is. I have a complete inventory and expense sheet for everything I've purchased since renewing my interest in the hobby about 2 1/2 years ago. Now of course, that does include the construction of my basement Can-Am trainroom - but still, it's money out ......

Ah, what the Hades (have to say that, otherwise we get [censored]) - at this stage of my life, I'd rather spend it on something tangible than not. Let's see - I'm longing for another S-gauge loco and consist .......... [}:)]

Enjoy this fine day and thanx again for your volunteerism! We military guys know all about that stuff, eh [?][;)]

See ya later! [tup][;)]
Tom [4:-)][oX)]
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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