It appears the smokebox has double-doors.
daveklepper Here is another of my favorite Father Frank Browne S. J. pictures. Poddibly Peter can supply details:
Here is another of my favorite Father Frank Browne S. J. pictures. Poddibly Peter can supply details:
The one on the right looks like a childs storybook engine, doesn't it?
DeggestyAlso, looking at what coupling/uncoupling entailed I wonder: did those who did the work duck under or climb/leap over the buffers?
In many of the movies on British practice, I see them scrambling underneath (in part facilitated by having to tinker with the brake pipes too).
In passenger work in Germany/Austria and Switzerland, in the mid-Seventies, I remember them generally reaching over and down, never getting to where an inadvertent car movement would find any part of their body 'cuttable' by wheel contact...
Also, looking at what coupling/uncoupling entailed I wonder: did those who did the work duck under or climb/leap over the buffers?
Johnny
Here is another of my favorite Father Frank Browne S. J. pictures. Probably Peter can supply details:
Great YouTube clip David!
When the Titanic sank Tin Pan Alley went into overdrive putting out memorial songs, most (if not all) pretty forgettable, but Cantor Rosenblatt's tribute is just beautiful! I don't understand a word he's singing, but I don't have to, and that says something. What a beautiful voice he had!
I looked up Nathan Straus. What a man, he did an awful lot of good!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Straus
NDG, I think you nailed it and solved the mystery, there must be a gasolene engine in there.
Well done!
There is also an important, but narrow, street in Jerusalem named for Nathan Strauss, used by the 22, 25, 34, 35, and 45 bus lines for all or most of its length, and 71-75, and the 19A in one direction, for one block, making it the very most congested street in Jerusalem. Nothing but taxis and buses during rush hours and mid-day. Was even more congested before the light rail opened.
Miningman, this was also the Cantor that charted a special PRR train, I think Jersey City - Baltimore, that set the speed record on the NEC up to the time of the Lindberg newsreel special, both with E-6 Atlantics, both in the Westing - Kalmbach book Apex of the Atlantics, so he could give an evening concert in both New York City and Baltimore. I do not have the Westing book at hand at the moment and someone may wish to check the exact facts,
Also, one of the important people in the history of public medicine in Israel was Nathan Strauss (after whom Netanya was named). He was due to sail on the Titanic, with his brother Isidore andsister-in-law, but was delayed and missed the boat. Isidore and his wifeperished, and Nathan saw that as a Divine sign that he had been saved for apurpose. He therefore devoted most of his time and money to Public Health.Anyhow, here is a You Tube of Yossele.https://youtu.be/JEpadnRY4CU
See the Railway Times, Feb 24 1906?
Is that a crank by the man's left knee. Has headlight.
Thank You.
I'm still puzzling over that inspection car. Maybe there's a small gasolene engine in there some place where we can't see it?
Since this is Ireland it definately wouldn't be used as a hot-dog stand. Maybe a fish n' chips stand?
It's a beautiful thing, at any rate!
A sad irony to that piece by Elbert Hubbard, "The Titanic." Hubbard himself was lost three years later in the sinking of the Lusitania.
Quite a popular writer in his time, Elber Hubbard was also the author of "A Message To Garcia."
Timeless words o' wisdom, and here it is.
http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31822042776955&view=1up&seq=1
Flintlock76I wonder if it was pushed or towed?
I would guess pushed based on the seating, but pushed by what? Compared with the buffer height of the cars around it, and the lack of them on the car in question, I would doubt a locomotive would have been used. Can we date it? Maybe a small gas engine speeder could push or pull it?
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
Well here's a good one!
Songwriters wrote original pieces honoring the dead; among them was
Yiddish lyricist Solomon Small, who wrote Der Nasser Kever (“The Watery
Grave”).
Deggesty Wayne, the one I know begins, "Did you ever wonder, as the hearse goes by, that one these days you will surely die?" Different words, but the sentiment is the same.
Wayne, the one I know begins, "Did you ever wonder, as the hearse goes by, that one these days you will surely die?" Different words, but the sentiment is the same.
No surprise Johnny, there's lots of variations out there, probably depends on what part of the country you're from.
Wayne
Doesn't that look cool?
I don't see any evidence of a propulsion system though, I wonder if it was pushed or towed?
You know, it kind of reminds me of an antique hot dog wagon!
Turning back to Father Frank Browne SJ's photows, the website caption refers to this as an Engineering Department inspection vehicle. Does Peter have more information?
I have no additional knowlege about Titanic or White Star dishes. Cannot answer Flinktlock's question.
The error was inadvertant. I usually have taken great pains to see that everything fits, but this morning I was distracted from examining the finished post by an important matter, and now I will use the error button to return and corrrect the posting, A thousand apologies.
But, often I cannot tell how it will fit until I see the actual posting. So the posting will run off the right when first posted, but return one hour later, and you wil find the total readable. I will have done the editing in the interim. This is particularly true of New York MTA and SEPTA press releases.
That's the one Johnny, and you're not a bona-fide kid if you don't know some version of it! Kids DO love a good gross-out, and always have. I learned it when I was a kid, so did Lady Firestorm.
No-one's sure where that one comes from either. American aviators during the First World War used to sing it together*, real typical military gallows humor there, but it's believed the song is considerably older, at least to the late 19th Century.
Again, I'll save a dissertation on this for Halloween, although anyone can get the story using "The Google Machine."
* The music and lyrics were in a book of American soldier songs I found in a used bookstore called "Sound Off!," published in 1939, and the book mentioned its popularity with aviators. I almost split a gut laughing when I saw it! "Hey! I KNOW this one!"
In the book it's titled "The Big Grey Hearse."
"The big grey hearse goes rolling by, you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
'Cause you know one day it'll get you too, and it's very next load may consist of you!"
Wayne is " The Worms Crawl In, The Worms Crawl Out" song you mention the one that begins "Did you ever think as the hearse rolls by...."? I remember two versions of the ending; both are gruesome.
Stuff happens.
Very interesting read of the Jews on the Titanic. Thanks David!
I've got a question. Would the kosher dishes and utensils be specifically so marked? The reason I'm asking is when the White Star Line purchased dishes, bowls, utensils, and so forth they bought them en masse for the whole shipping line, with no specific markings other than "White Star Line."
This has been a caveat emptor for Titanic fans for years. The only thing on the Titanic that had the ship's name on it was the ship itself, the exception being ephemera like menus. So if you see a teacup that has "RMS Titanic" on it, watch out!
Many of Dave Klepper posts are frequently cut off along the right side.
My long post of Tues Apr 14 @ 1:59 am is entirely within and readable on both my iPad and iPhone .
Is there some reason that over and over and over again we get these long posts that don't wrap correctly in the forum software and are fundamentally unreadable, even though of great length?
How hard can it be just to cut and paste the text unformatted in the window, enclosing what has been snipped from an e-mail or other communication using the quote function or quote tags? I certainly can't recover a readable version by any means available to me, thanks to poor programming choices at Kalmbach that let me extend the window dramatically, but not the column of actual content visible in it...
Unsolicited, Steve Sattler sent me a message on the Jewish angle
of the Titanic disaster, which may be of interest to most readers of
this thread. I've excerpted what may be most interesting, and
those wishing the complete message can contact Steve at
sattler31@gmail.com.
From 1880 -1920, some 3 mill. Russian Jews fled the Russian region,
so it is not surprising that there were many Jews on the Titanic, most
of them in steerage. The Titanic set sail after Pesach 1912. The Hebrew
Immigration Aid Society records show that only 27 Jews/ board survived,
all of whom were taken from the rescue ships to a Sheltering Home in NY.
The NY Jewish community viewed the sinking of the Titanic as a great
tragedy, & hundreds/ American synagogues held services in memory/ victims.
Grave”). The famous Cantor Yossele Rosenblatt, who recorded El Malei
Rachamim in memory of the lost - donated the $150,000 -sales of the
album to help support the survivors.
THE TITANIC DISASTER:- "The survivors say that it was common
to inform the passengers that the poor could be considered lost while
the first rescue boat filled with people from those found close to her.
The screaming surrounded the entire ship, & the women & children raised
a howl: & then the captain appeared and said: "women and children first!"
And what is worthy of note is that everyone inside the boat immediately
obeyed the order &, with no refusal,
Initially, the kosher dishes & utensils were old tableware salvaged specifically
for White Star kosher service but, after WWI, kosher tableware was specially
made to cater to the growing numbers of Jewish passengers. However, no
kosher dishes or cutlery have ever been recovered from the sinking of the
Titanic, though a few pieces from the Olympic do exist. .
To date, no kosher-only menu specific to the Titanic has ever been found,
though the experts on the subject argue that they must surely have existed
because there do exist exceedingly rare copies of standard 1913 White Star
third-class menus that declare “Kosher Meat supplied & Cooked for Jewish
Passengers as desired.”
The final Titanic lunch menu, from April 14, 1912, was sold at auction
in 2015 for $88,000. The salvaged menu once belonged Abraham Lincoln Salomon (1868-1959), a Jewish passenger & stationery dealer who traveled
to Europe/ business trip accompanied by his daughter, though he alone
booked 1st-class passage to return to NY on the doomed vessel.
He ultimately escaped death by boarding the infamous Lifeboat No. 1
which, though it had a 40/ capacity, nonetheless took off from the sinking
ship carrying only 12 people, including 7 crewmen, who assuredly did not
“go down with the ship.”
2018:- On August 23, a pocket watch that belonged to Sinai Kantor,
a Jewish Russian immigrant who died aboard the Titanic, & featured
Hebrew letters on its face & Moses holding the 10 Commandments on/
back, sold at auction for $57,500. His wife Miriam was one of the few
Jewish survivors.
April 14-15, 1912. "A Night To Remember." 108 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq_MDc35pWg
And RIP, Honor Blackman.
"Down With The Old Canoe." I've heard of it, but never heard it before.
Thanks Vince!
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