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Posted by M636C on Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:57 AM

.... probably more. Don't know about Australia.

My life and Football are virtually mutually exclusive....

But today, 26th January here, is our National Day, celebrating the arrival of the first settlers in 1788, so I have to say something.

I went to a High School for smart kids and the teacher in charge of Modern Languages (ie not Latin or Greek) told me I wasn't smart enough to study German. He was also the President of the Australian Rugby Union. I was not pleased with this and transferred to Association Football and taught myself some German.

While our school played only Rugby Union, many other schools played Rugby League (with slightly different rules) which was the "professional" game and regarded as more of a "working class" game.

In Sydney anyway, when I was at school, the Rugby League teams were known more by their home ground, although some had animal mascots. More recently, in order to widen the area of popularity of particular teams, they have frequently been known by the mascot names alone but since most commentators are nearly as old as I am the localty names are usually used at some time.

Anyway, here is a partial list of Sydney Rugby League teams...

My local team was North Sydney whose ground was across the road from my high school. This team had a bear as its mascot.... there are no bears in Australia. The team moved to Southern Queensland or disappeared, much the same thing really.

East Sydney had the Rooster as its mascot. It is still operating...

South Sydney was from a relatively poor area and they were known as "Rabbitohs" after rabbit trappers who sold their catch from door to door. This idea of a tramp for a mascot was not thought to be a good idea so the rabbit became the mascot.

West Sydney had yellow and black as their colours so became the "Tigers"...

Canterbury-Bankstown became the "Bulldogs" and since their colours were blue and white. the mascot was a white bulldog with a blue collar.

Manly (a beach suburb) became the "Sea Eagles" but sometimes rendered as "seagulls" by the opposition teams...

Cronulla, another beach suburb further south, became the "Sharks".

St George a regional area just inland from Cronulla, obviously became the "Dragons"

The most westerley suburb was Penrith and this team was known as the "Panthers" after a legend that a large cat was preying on local farm animals. Similar rumours were circulating west of Newcastle this week, Nobody has produced a usable photograph...

Anyway, that's about it....

(OK, my father was a big Rugby League fan so I didn't get a choice)...

But as far as I know no trains shared a mascot name.

A Queensland team, the "Broncos" had maroon and yellow as their colours and a 1990s scheme used on Queensland Railways locomotives was known as the "Bronco" scheme. QR was a team sponsor but again, no train names were involved. Maroon was the state colour, so that was the link in colours. There are wild horses in Australia....

Happy Australia Day!

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, January 25, 2020 2:28 PM

Not the 'Show' but...

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:24 AM

The Kansas City Chiefs, when they moved from Dallas, were named for Mayor H. Roe Bartle of Kansas City, whose nickname was "the Chief".  He was also the longtime national president of Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity.

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 PM

Cavaliers, Rockets, Clippers, Trail Blazers, Blackhawks, Pelicans, Zephyrs, Rebels, Olympians, Flyers, Senators, Canadians, Maple Leafs , Red Wings, Cardinals, Chiefs, Vikings, Eagles, 49ers, and we'll throw in the Metropolitan as the Mets and Balts picture. 

.... probably more. Don't know about Australia.

I'm thinking it's not too common at all to have a big final, such as the World Series, Stanley Cup or Super Bowl featuring two teams whose name was also that of a named passenger train. 

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Posted by Jones1945 on Friday, January 24, 2020 10:25 PM

"i'm lovin' it"   .

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 24, 2020 7:47 PM

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, January 24, 2020 7:34 PM

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Posted by M636C on Friday, January 24, 2020 6:43 PM

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That's one thing UP fans have puzzled about for years.  UP streamlined a 4-6-2 and a 4-8-2 for the "49er," but they painted the locomotives in the brown and yellow UP streamliner scheme, which was a total mismatch to the passenger consist.

 

Now it has been a very long time since I last opened Kratville's Streamliners, but I seem to remember that the two locomotives were rebuilt for high speed as 'protect power' for the Streamliners in general, and presumably as streamlined would continue in that role.  Perhaps they were temporarily assigned to the '49er to save the expense of comparable Diesels, but there were far more trains in yellow and brown potentially awaiting them at other times...

(As I recall, Kratville observed that at no time was one of these locomotives within range of an actual failed Streamliner in time to act as intended.  Ever.  Not once.  What are the odds?)

 

I can confirm that Kratville indicated that 2906 and 7002 were rebuilt as protection power. for the "City" streamliners. They weren't initially streamlined, at least photos exist of both locomotives with their new wheels and rods but otherwise unchanged painted in glossy black...

The "Forty-Niner" was painted to match "Advance" and "Progress" as they were exhibited and only the car names were changed.

But the "Forty-Niner" was seen as a short term expedient and ran five times a month, so the locomotives were probably used on other UP trains as available and the current UP corporate image was preferable to a colour scheme that Pullman developed for its own purposes.

Of course it was always possible that they would be used on one of the big "City" trains and Leaf Brown and Armour Yellow covered that possibility...

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, January 24, 2020 5:33 PM

Mike is a HUGE Mets fan .. I'm sure there was a 'Metropolitan' but I doubt any train named 'Mets'. 
We can overlook that.
 
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Posted by Jones1945 on Friday, January 24, 2020 4:36 PM

Overmod
(As I recall, Kratville observed that at no time was one of these locomotives within range of an actual failed Streamliner in time to act as intended.  Ever.  Not once.  What are the odds?)

The magic of EMC/EMD's diesel streamliner! Didn't even give a chance to these streamlined steam engine (with patented streamlining features) to show off, like the CB&Q 4000... As a Pennsy fan, I am immune to the inconsistency of livery between the consist and the motive power... Mix and match can be fun! 

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 24, 2020 4:11 PM

Flintlock76
That's one thing UP fans have puzzled about for years.  UP streamlined a 4-6-2 and a 4-8-2 for the "49er," but they painted the locomotives in the brown and yellow UP streamliner scheme, which was a total mismatch to the passenger consist.

Now it has been a very long time since I last opened Kratville's Streamliners, but I seem to remember that the two locomotives were rebuilt for high speed as 'protect power' for the Streamliners in general, and presumably as streamlined would continue in that role.  Perhaps they were temporarily assigned to the '49er to save the expense of comparable Diesels, but there were far more trains in yellow and brown potentially awaiting them at other times...

(As I recall, Kratville observed that at no time was one of these locomotives within range of an actual failed Streamliner in time to act as intended.  Ever.  Not once.  What are the odds?)

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, January 24, 2020 3:38 PM

That's one thing UP fans have puzzled about for years.  UP streamlined a 4-6-2 and a 4-8-2 for the "49er," but they painted the locomotives in the brown and yellow UP streamliner scheme, which was a total mismatch to the passenger consist.

Oh well, there's better things to lose sleep over.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Friday, January 24, 2020 12:51 PM

I would pick the 49er, but this time It wasn't the streamlined steam engine attracted me the most, it was the livery of the 49er consist and the consist itself (betterment cars + experimental Pullman sleeper) attracted me.

A consistency (in color and streamlining style) consist that consisted of coaches and sleepers using 6-wheel truck (except the experimental Pullman sleeper)! A 8-car, 86-wheel train set, looked great, the ride should be great as well...

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, January 24, 2020 8:01 AM

Miningman

Now we need someone to find what football, baseball, hockey and basketball teams share a name with a named train at one time. 

Cardinal, Maple Leaf, Red Wing, Alouette and Pelican immediately come to mind. 

 

Atlanta's minor league baseball team was the Crackers. The Southern ran the Cracker between Atlanta and Brunswick.

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Posted by M636C on Friday, January 24, 2020 1:26 AM

Miningman

 

The Forty-Niner was discontinued in 1941 and 4007 was built in or after September 1941. So this may not be the Forty-Niner but another train hauled by 7002 which may well have continued to run in that form.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:48 PM

One more still does, Le Canadien!

I imagine some trains were (unofficially) named "Rough Riders".....  ...or should it be Roughriders?  (for you Americans, that's a Canadian Football joke)

On that note, CP's Edmonton-Calgary service was actually named after those cities' respective teams, Eskimo northbound and Stampeder southbound.

Edmonton's AAA ball club fled south to Texas some years ago (I'm still bitter about it) and became the Round Rock Express.

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:17 PM

Now we need someone to find what football, baseball, hockey and basketball teams share a name with a named train at one time. 

Cardinal, Maple Leaf, Red Wing, Alouette and Pelican immediately come to mind. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:53 PM

49er's vs. the Chiefs?

If it ain't the Giants or the Jets playin' then who cares!  Zzz

Now the trains,  on the other hand, that's a whole 'nother story!

Got to go with the 49er, that streamlined UP locomotive is so bizzare it's gorgeous!  Kinda looks like a slug, doesn't it?  

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Posted by Penny Trains on Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:46 PM

Trains, trains, wonderful trains.  The more you get, the more you toot!  Big Smile

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49er vs Chiefs ..
Posted by Miningman on Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:45 PM

 

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