It sure does.
About 17 years later, GE would take that design, stretch the frames to allow for one extra powered axle on each side of the center articulation, add a mid-40's streamlined cab and attempt to sell it to the Russians (Little Joe).
Along with the named cars NYC got some extra 56-seat coaches. One of them was later named for Gov. Thomas E. Dewey, who was in office when the cars were delivered.
On your mark... get set... go!
2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching E units in the face!"
( Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI)
3) Overlooked C&EI had a pair of BL2's ... who knew!?
( anyone out there have a good colour photo of one of these?)
Miningman On your mark... get set... go! 2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!" ( Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI) 3) Overlooked C&EI had a pair of BL2's ... who knew!? ( anyone out there have a good colour photo of one of these?)
2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!"
Johnny
Miningman On your mark... get set... go!
#1, I have been doing this weekly on my YouTube channel since 10 months ago
Miningman 2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!" ( Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI)
Role Play: "(Drunk Voice) First...... I am no Frank... and don't you call me Frank again...! Second...... I am going to punch it just because I can! I CAN... even though my mentor said that the E unit and F unit are good looking diesel..."
Jones 3D Modeling Club https://www.youtube.com/Jones3DModelingClub
Jones1945Miningman 2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!" (Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI)Role Play: "(Drunk Voice) First...... I am no Frank... and don't you call me Frank again...! Second...... I am going to punch it just because I can! I CAN... even though my mentor said that the E unit and F unit are good looking diesel..."
Miningman 2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!" (Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI)
This would be far funnier if, in fact, there were an F unit involved here. That is another E unit, as immediately seen from the flush numberboards and central gangway door, if you can't tell from what is visible of the truck detail.
Compare here: (OK, so it's an excuse to roll some green-and-gold video...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NVMhvv4TUw
Pause around 1:57 in a parallel window and compare spotting details...
Overmod Jones1945 Miningman 2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!" (Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI) Role Play: "(Drunk Voice) First...... I am no Frank... and don't you call me Frank again...! Second...... I am going to punch it just because I can! I CAN... even though my mentor said that the E unit and F unit are good looking diesel..." This would be far funnier if, in fact, there were an F unit involved here. That is another E unit, as immediately seen from the flush numberboards and central gangway door, if you can't tell from what is visible of the truck detail. Compare here: (OK, so it's an excuse to roll some green-and-gold video...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NVMhvv4TUw Pause around 1:57 in a parallel window and compare spotting details...
Jones1945 Miningman 2) "Now listen Frank, you just can't go around punching F units in the face!" (Birmingham, Alabama 1959 FYI) Role Play: "(Drunk Voice) First...... I am no Frank... and don't you call me Frank again...! Second...... I am going to punch it just because I can! I CAN... even though my mentor said that the E unit and F unit are good looking diesel..."
"Mother is god in the eyes of a child" - Rose Da Silva in that overbudget B movie...
"Diesel all look the same in the eyes of steam lover" - A random drunk guy in the pub
Ok I fixed it.. now an E unit. Guess I was focused too much on the nose , but yeah, clearly an E.
Wonder if they called a dentist!
Jonsey's correct as well though .. same dang thing to a steam lover.
The "Steam streamliners getting ready to have a drag race" image Mr. Jones posted?
My money's on Mighty 611! She ain't gonna let herself get beat by those damn Yankee engines!
N&W HAD to call it a "Class J," NO WAY were they going to call it a "Northern!"
That C&O "banana" is a friendly rival, but she won't let that one win either!
Jones1945 "Diesel all look the same in the eyes of steam lover" - A random drunk guy in the pub
To which I say, drawing myself up: "I am as much a steam lover as anyone else on this forum, and Diesels don't all look the same to me!"
You can take your Raymond Tylicki out to sea and sink him over the Andrea Doria for all I care about random drunk opinion.
I recall as a kid spotting a headlight and waiting.. and listening intently, and as soon as it was recognizable as a Diesel I would say " nah, just a stupid Diesel" Geep or covered wagon, didn't even look, just a stupid Diesel.. turn back around to catch the caboose and wave. If it wasn't steam it was disappointing. That was the rule of the day.
As for Raymond and drunkards, well 'But for the grace of God go I'.
Growing up with drunks for Uncles I have learned well to simply avoid, but I wish them no harm.
My younger only brother by 6 years drank himself to death, always in some kind of trouble especially later in life. I don't know I just don't know, troubling and haunting.
My best friend did the same thing about 3 1/2 years ago.
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
A friend shot himself @ age 19.
And I learned how to Cry.
Thank You.
More than fifty million of civilian are abandoned and left to die in mainland China at this very moment,
the 350kph High-Speed Railway system has become a short cut for the coronavirus spreading!
Can I have one last drink, please?
Yes you can Mr. Jones, you're entitiled, and make it good and strong to kill the bug!
Try "Makers Mark Cask Strength" bourbon if there's any available. 112 proof! Wow!
I only take a shot on the coldest days.
And you be careful over there! Please!
Those "Drank himself to death" stories are tragic, to say the least. Did any of you know Mr. Trump's older brother did the same? That's why Mr. Trump doesn't drink, at all.
Jeez, let's get back to trains, QUICK!
Flintlock76 Yes you can Mr. Jones, you're entitiled, and make it good and strong to kill the bug! Try "Makers Mark Cask Strength" bourbon if there's any available. 112 proof! Wow! I only take a shot on the coldest days. And you be careful over there! Please! Those "Drank himself to death" stories are tragic, to say the least. Did any of you know Mr. Trump's older brother did the same? That's why Mr. Trump doesn't drink, at all. Jeez, let's get back to trains, QUICK!
Cheers to good friends, good health, Wayne!
Believe it or not, I seldom drink in my spare time, but I do enjoy having drinks with my friends.
Fill the glass!
Lounge car on the ATSF El Capitan. LIFE Aug 21, 1939
And in the spirit of the El Capitan lounge car, and to inject some badly needed humor, there's this story.
One of the "Trains" staffers, Mike Yuhas I believe, grew up along the Long Island Railroad. As Mike said...
"I always used to wave at the trains, but nobody ever waved back. Except the people in the bar car, they always waved back!"
I wonder why?
Flintlock76 And in the spirit of the El Capitan lounge car, and to inject some badly needed humor, there's this story. One of the "Trains" staffers, Mike Yuhas I believe, grew up along the Long Island Railroad. As Mike said... "I always used to wave at the trains, but nobody ever waved back. Except the people in the bar car, they always waved back!" I wonder why?
rcdrye Along with the named cars NYC got some extra 56-seat coaches. One of them was later named for Gov. Thomas E. Dewey, who was in office when the cars were delivered.
One more thing about the Empire State Express I forgot to mention. Many people including me forgot the names of the designer who created the streamlined shrouding of the E-S-E Hudson, they were Mr. Chase H. Knowlton and Mr. George M. Davies! It wasn't easy to create something as impressive as the Dreyfuss Hudson, they did a great job and their efforts have paid off.
Herkimer County, NY Historical Society Archives.
Late 1942 Train #51 of the New York Central System the "Empire State Express" train consist.
Some folks thing the E-S-E streamlined Hudson looks better than the Dreyfuss Hudson. I'm not one of them, but I like them both! They're both lookers!
1) Russian TEM 7A Heavy Shunting Locomotive
2) Dosen't get much simpler than this.. at least he won't run out of coal.. more tender than locomotive! ( yes I know the boiler is under the coal)
3) "Save Our Tracks"... abandoned elevated NYC
4) KCS Commemorative ... Well ok , but.....no.
What say you?
5) Comedy break time!
UP sets PSR record delivering 58,753 cars to Chicago. Problem... they didn't know what to do once they got there with the train. Traffic backed up to Timmins, Ontario.
6) " If they think I'm taking out that Diesel they better think again"
7) Some ads that would not fly today.
Well now this one might, not much changed really.
8) Now this is quite a contraption .. study it for a while!
Your #1 is not a TEM 7A, it's a TEM 8A. (See Red Dot design awards). I believe most of these 16-wheel TEMs are road-switchers, not centercabs; the 7/7A have very interesting span-bolster B-B trucks instead of the Russian-designed eight-wheel type seen on the 8A. These are supposed to have two 8-cylinder engines for a total of 2400hp. Note the cab window treatment -- this opens interesting possibilities, albeit raising some fairly severe cab-safety issues (compare the discussion of glazing in S-580 cab development in North America).
Reply was temporarily disabled for normal vs. quick reply this morning -- I think the IT elves are cobbling.
I submit we add this to the category:
If I get enough expression of interest I'll work up more formal design and see if I can put a trust together to build it...
Superb. I like the elevated ditch lights and the front driver mud guard. Not sure how you get in... perhaps that hatch by the 'tender'.
Could be steam or Diesel, an option for each? Or perhaps bush button selection. At least it shows some thinking!
Overmod I submit we add this to the category: If I get enough expression of interest I'll work up more formal design and see if I can put a trust together to build it...
What the hell is THAT?
Jeez! And people said the Union Pacific's streamlined Pacific used on the "49er" looked like a slug! This thing looks like a psychotic Moby Dick with drivers!
Taking Vinces pictures seriatim...
1) Yep, Russian all right. They can't get past "Socialist Realism," that is, it doesn't have to look good, it just has to work!
2) That mini-steamer's cool! I want one for the back yard!
3) The NYC elevated. That particular section's obviously outlived it's usefulness, or someone thinks it has.
4) Um, I appreciate the sentiment, I really do, but I think that KCS locomotive's a bit over the top. Need to dial it back a bit. Sometimes less is more.
5) All those diesels! A "Prosperity Special" for the 21st Century?
6) Reminds me of a story of a Southern Railway's roundhouse foreman when the first diesels began to show up...
"You ain't bringin' those streetcars in MY SHOP!"
7) Great ad from the "Fabulous 50's," and yeah, it's too archaic, wouldn't work now. But it's cute! Speaking of cute, we used to have those cast-iron street mailboxes years ago too. All gone now.
8) Forget what I said about #2! I want THIS one!
Flintlock76What the hell is THAT?
Concept art for the SF movie "Snowpiercer".
(The train in the actual film was, as I recall, very different)
This looks to me as if derived from the Russian IS 2-8-4 that received the Kantola-esque shroud. I'm tempted to say you could easily use one of those 'ignored' AMC Berkshires as a starting point and get something highly interesting... it's really not much more radical than C&O 490.
Taking Vinces pictures seriatim... 1) Yep, Russian all right. They can't get past "Socialist Realism," that is, it doesn't have to look good, it just has to work!
Looks like a mid-2000s Audi to me, and they could have done this fully explicitly with only a little tinkering. The 'regular' TEP 7s don't have this look, and neither do the 'newer' versions of the general engine design, so this is indeed a styling 'thing'...
Is it not part of what is now the "High Line" park?
4) Um, I appreciate the sentiment, I really do, but I think that KCS locomotive's a bit over the top. Need to dial it back a bit.
Compared to almost any recent 'commemorative' design, including any of the other ones celebrating armed forces -- and a very, very long subset of 'Bicentennial' schemes -- this is a paragon of taste. My only real 'complaint' is that the back end is drab. Probably by intent, but it would be easy to fix with a little something that picks up whatever the 'theme' is intended to be: flags, national pride, etc.
I argued years ago that one of the World War I commemoratives ought to be dazzle-painted, which can be incredibly striking and in many respects still 'modern-looking'. The problem, of course, is that effective schemes to make something large 'not be seen' is, shall we say, amazingly counterproductive for locomotives that drivers and trespassers should avoid...
Yeah, promotion for the investor class, over the fact that all those locomotives are leaving the property -- cutting expenses and adding revenue to the year's bottom line as they go, and being a lovely Armour-yellow billboard advertising the magnitude of the fact. Perhaps it's more than a bit like that German stunt with the cruise ship in the late 1930s -- tour the train of locomotives around the country, laughing as railroad after railroad refuses to acquire them...
6) Reminds me of a story of a Southern Railway's roundhouse foreman when the first diesels began to show up... "You ain't bringin' those streetcars in MY SHOP!"
Well, some of those were DL-109s, and the ATSF story about their 'streetcar motors' dripping solder on the ties of Raton Pass is recorded. (Right after the anecdote about how the sides went in and out as the units idled, and the things shook the dining car tightlock-coupled behind in consist so hard coffee slopped out of cups...)
I can see why he might have heard enough to be upset at this.
I would also be interested to see how his attitude changed with a little more experience of the good ones. Southern dieselized remarkably early.
Considering how fast the Southern dieselized I very much doubt if they cared what that roundhouse foreman's attitude was.
"You don't like 'em Pop? Well learn to like 'em, or there's the door!"
Considering Bicentennial schemes. Some were good, some not so good, some downright bizarre, but in my humble opinion the lowly Susquehanna had the best of them all.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/149706553@N05/35796790453
Simple, understated, and tastefully done.
As far as military tribute locomotives go I think the recent efforts from Canadian Pacific are superb!
I'll vote for the IHB and BRC bi-centennials:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2392714
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4663992
CSSHEGEWISCH I'll vote for the IHB and BRC bi-centennials: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2392714 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4663992
Not bad, not bad at all!
The red and blue striping on the IHB switcher reminds me of the North Carolina militia flag used at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse in 1781. Have a look...
http://www.ncpedia.org/guilford-courthouse-flag
I call it the "Betsy Ross on drugs" flag.
Classic? Yes because we are dealing with 100 years.
Strange Thing-- Yes. This is what CN comes up with for their 100 year anniversary? The only people impressed with this are the investors as CN must have spent at least $27.00 at Staples to come up with this peel and stick embarrassment.
This is ridiculously ridiculous. It's a banana duct taped to the wall, nothing more than that.
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