You are abslutely correct, and I'm going back and making the correction in my question. Thanks, and l look forward to your question.
What you're listing as Kenosha is actually Waukegan/North Chicago (City service in Kenosha was TMER&L). One "city" car, CNS&M 361, was acquired from the CA&E (their 500) first under lease in 1942 and later by purchase. Never a favorite with either railroad, 500 was used for a while on the Lake Bluff-Mundelein shuttle. Most of its North Shore career was spent in Waukegan, where it was the extra car that was only used when nothing else was available. Superficially similar to the North Shore's 500 series cars, it had different motors, gearing and controls.
CA&E had intended it for use on the Batavia shuttle. Crews didn't like it, and it sat unused in the Wheaton yards for a long time before WWII after a motor failed. On the CA&E, it was equipped with third rail shoes.
The C&NS used streetcar equipment, single cars, without mu capability, for local streetcar sevice in Waukegan service, Waukegan - Great Lakes (North Chicago), and Milwaukee service, and for a short time, one other service. Where?
We have a winner. Your question.
Chicago Railways Company, Chicago City Railway, Calumet and South Chicago Railway, and Southern Street Railway
As is well known, Chicago Surface Lines was the operator of Chicago's streetcars, trolley buses and feeder buses. Since it was not an incorporated entity, provide the names of the four underlying companies that owned the equipment and properties.
CSS. your question, please, and you are capable of coming up with a good one.
Dunb me. I should have reemembered thatv from the number iof times I rode, and thoiroughly enjoyed riding, the GTW Mowhawk.
Starting at South Bend, Indiana, the GTW crossed every major eastern line before turning west, then north, then east before finally turning north to Dearborn Station. Although GTW was part owner of the C&WI and Dearborn Station, it only used the C&WI north of 49th Street. CSX now leases most of the former GTW route west of the IC main line.
With that clue, I would go with Grand Trunk Western, crossing B&OCT at Blue Island and again near 49th and Leavitt.
WC/Soo Line had very few crossings - IC east of Broadview was a straight shot until the last two miles.
The line I'm looking for pretty much "boxed the compass" before heading into its terminal.
Wisconsen Central (or Wiscinsin Southern?) when using Central Station, the Illinois Central Station.
Close - The B&O/C&O moves over the B&OCT come in second. This railroad crossed the B&OCT twice on its way downtown.
The C&O (ex-PM) after the move from Grand Central to Northwestern, with the B&O similarly close behin the C&O.
Here's a good map excercise:
This railroad crossed more railroads entering Chicago before heading downtown than any other.
Inaugurated when the Central's Twilight Limited lost its dining car.
Also had poular stops at Detroit-Suburban Pontiac, Royal Oak, and Birmingham.
Your question, please.
GTW "Mohawk" Chicago-Detroit 1967. Beat old GTW time via Durand, but was not quite as fast as NYC(MC) trains via Ann Arbor.
The railroad is the Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee and the trains are the "Electroliners".
The railroad and train name of the last new intercity service serving Chicago and a distant city before Amtrak. It was faster tha any previous schedule over the particular route; not faster than the rail competition, but preferred for other reasons.
I did say I wouldn't require the other railroad's name. PRR is correct. C&O turned their car over to the NYC (Big Four) at Cincinnati - the car reached St. Louit via Indianapolis. This was a good many years before C&O's George Washington was combined with the remnant of B&O's Metropolitan for Washington-St. Louis service.
That leaves only the C&O and Pennsylvania as possibilities, with the C&O probably using another rsilraod from Louisville or Cincinnati to St. Louis.
The B&O probably had Texas cars from both Jersey City and Washington.
New York answers are correct (PRR, NYC). Since this was for a connection to MP trains the Southern/RF&P/L&N were not involved.
C&O's operation to Washington was straight trackage rights with no revenue sharing, so I didn't include it to answer Dave's previous queation. Big Four had various arrangements with IC over the years that weren't straight trackage rights.
First a ciorrection to my question and RC's answer, and having relevence, I think, to RC's question. Actually, the George Washington's Penn Station, New York, Central Station (IC) Chicago Pullmans used six, not four, rasilroad's tracks. We fordot C&O using trackage-rights Orange-Alexandria on the Southern, and RF&P Alexandria - Washington.
The two New York-through-to-Texas Pullman carriers were certainly bothy the New York Central and the Pennsylvania. From Washington the B&O, Southern, and RF&P (for SAL-L&N).
The MoPac/T&P Sunshine Limited and Texan participated in quite a few Pullman "Lines" in the pre-Texas Eagle era. Two railroads sent cars out of New York, and three out of Washington to participate. Name the railroads that were part of this service (one of the Washington cars was handled on two connecting railroads, but I only need the originating one).
Note that while most of the cars operated both ways on the Sunshine Limited, one "Line" went west on the Texan, and returned on the Sunshine Limited.
The Sunshine Limited ran as two trains out of St. Louis, 1 and 21, swapping cars at Little Rock for various Texas and Mexican destinations. I won't require you to figure out which cars went where.
I think the answer lies in the use of C&O's hotels (especially the Greenbrier) for various industry and government conferences over the years. The list is quite long, including the Greenbrier's use as an internment center for Axis diplomats at the beginning of WWII. A bunker was built as part of a new wing between 1959 and 1962 to house essential government functions in the event of a nuclear event. Never used, it's now a tourist attraction.
The other C&O hotel at Hot Springs, could be reached by mixed train (from Clifton Forge) until 1971. Pullmans and private cars were handled regularly on the mixed train, though often the cars were returned empty with passengers taken by taxi to reboard at a main line station (usually Covington).
I'll post something later today after I get a chance to fact check my question.
You got the answers and should ask the next question.
The promary hotel still rexists, the Greebier.
You did not continue to the bonus, even though I know you know it.
Amtrak's Cardinal covers this route entirely, and is the only passenger train serving both Philadelphia and Chicago, also Wilmington and Chicago.
For a few years C&O's George Washington carried New York-Chicago sleepers that originated on the Pennsylvania, were turned over to the C&O in Washington, and then to the New York Central (Big Four) in Cincinnati. Big Four Trains operated into Chicago on the Illinois Central north of Kankakee, sometimes with IC power.
C&O owned several resort hotels in the West Virginia mountains. Some of the cars layed over during the trip at one of several stations that served the George Washington. In later years there were no through cars, but New York-Chicago pasengers who stopped over could use one of several cars that originated in Newport News (Phoebus) or Richmond to continue west. Other cars to Chicago operated via Toledo on the Sportsman, handed off to New York Central for the last leg.
Two of the railroads were in competition for much freight and passenge traffic. The ghird had frfiendly relations and interchange with both. Nobody used this route for just transportation between end-points. For stopovers and/or specific scenery, yes.
Name the flgship train of the one of the three railroads and namecthe three railroads of the New York City - Chicago Pullman line (very often more than one car) that used three Class I railroads passenger trains in each diregtion, plus the fourth railroad, alsio a Class I, whose tracks were also used. In additon to answering, please provide all the details you can.
Bonus: Why is the route of this Pullman line of particular interest today, and especially for two large eastern cities?
It's all yours.
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